[OSGeo-Discuss] R: Proprietary GIS on our OSGeo website

This is my last mail on this topic, because it is stupid to go ahead in this conversation and I don't want to become upset. I want only to highlight that what you call "social pressure" is simply to listening to the community thoughts. Community is more than a beautiful picture of people...

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] [Marketing] Proprietary GIS on our OSGeo website

Jody, This is a very good point. (comments continue below...) On 9/20/17 1:19 PM, Jody Garnett wrote: On 20 September 2017 at 12:44, Maria Antonia Brovelli > wrote: Jody this is not respectful of me and the community.  Might I

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] [Marketing] Proprietary GIS on our OSGeo website

Maria It appears that there is a misunderstanding (at best) about the target audiences of the web site. Our primary objective is to use the new web site as a tool for outreach to people who are not already committed to using open source geo. Hence the focus on enabling/encouraging/informing

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] [Marketing] Proprietary GIS on our OSGeo website

On Wed, Sep 20, 2017 at 01:19:48PM -0700, Jody Garnett wrote: > The reason I want to keep the names (don't care about the links) is address > the needs of non-commuity website visitors. To answer the question "I use > XXX, how can you help me?" As I wrote on the ticket already, I like the idea

[OSGeo-Discuss] R: [Marketing] Proprietary GIS on our OSGeo website

Jody this is not respectful of me and the community. Might I know why the people working for the project want ABSOLUTELY to keep the names and links to proprietary software on our open source software website? Anyhow, I think that the Board can express ourselves about this point. I remember

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] presenting open source software or open source projects

Jody, Yes, this is a great and truly elemental ^concept^ for how we consider and name our efforts, so that they might be best appreciated by a welcoming world. Just for an added alternative, and not to suggest that the discussion shouldn’t remain software vs projects, but how about the word

[OSGeo-Discuss] R: [Marketing] Proprietary GIS on our OSGeo website

Dear Jody Personally I agree with Helmut and I don't see any necessity of putting "similar proprietary software" on our web pages. I don't think proprietary software need to be advertized. We are a Foundation about Open Software and I want to see the open source projects on the website that we

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Proprietary GIS on our OSGeo website

Thanks Maria, and I apologize for getting upset. I would like a chance to listen to people and determine a course of action together. -- Jody Garnett On 20 September 2017 at 12:59, Maria Antonia Brovelli < maria.brove...@polimi.it> wrote: > This is my last mail on this topic, because it is

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Proprietary GIS on our OSGeo website

Okay folks this conversation thread is starting to make me upset; we have gone from a productive discussion and has escalated. To be clear we have an open bug report, the specific feature is part of the website template and I do not have the ability to edit it directly. Listing "migrate from" is

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] [Marketing] Proprietary GIS on our OSGeo website

Maria your request is at odds with the goal of this website. Already I have private chats about participants being discouraged. I do not think that using the board to control the process is a productive or respectful of those working on the project. Please reconsider how to interactive

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] [Marketing] Proprietary GIS on our OSGeo website

I like your language that our open source projects are much more than proprietary software - it is this reason we are focusing on a team photo for each page (rather than a screen shot of the software). The original bug report reported a direct link to ESRI which was fixed, this is where the

[OSGeo-Discuss] R: [Marketing] Proprietary GIS on our OSGeo website

Jody, I see very difficult the existence of a vast majority of GIS industry that has honestly not heard about open source yet. Anyway I refuse the idea of "similar proprietary software" because our projects are much more than pieces of code. Behind our software there are communities and

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] [Marketing] Proprietary GIS on our OSGeo website

Thanks Maria, I reject the idea that we are advertising proprietary software, so each time it is phrased that way of course everyone well say "no". I want to help our software reach visitors that feel locked into proprietary software, please recognize this goal and how "migrate from" can help.

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] presenting open source software or open source projects

Thanks Tom, you kind of confirm that listing software (program, application,technology) right direction - even if it hurts my heart. You are correct that "someone looking to migrate" is the primary audience of this. Indeed the other email thread has a tradeoff of providing a "Similar Proprietary

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] presenting open source software or open source projects

> I would like to bring to discuss a question that we are struggling with for > the website/rebranding - do we present "open source software" or "open source > projects"? > I am personally having a hard time thinking in terms of software since I like > the fact that open source project

[OSGeo-Discuss] presenting open source software or open source projects

I would like to bring to discuss a question that we are struggling with for the website/rebranding - do we present "open source software" or "open source projects"? This is not an easy answer, as the earlier discussion on this list did not know how to recognize projects doing a rewrite (example

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] [Marketing] Proprietary GIS on our OSGeo website

Thanks for the discussion on the bug report. Please keep in mind that this website is written by us, but it is not intended for us - it is intended for the vast majority of the GIS industry that has honestly not heard about open source yet. These sections are optional, if one of our open source

[OSGeo-Discuss] Proprietary GIS on our OSGeo website

Dear OSGeo community I want to bring you a discussion on a github ticket about linking to "similar proprietary products" [1] to your attention. My comment there: "I support and concur with Venka that the item "Similar Proprietary Products" should be removed. There isn't only one