Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] FOSS4G 2018 sponsorship

Hi, I share your fears. But on the other hand, the list of sponsors is not closed for this year, I know for sure there are open source companies that are still pending to be shown there. GeoCat for example, being a small SME in comparison, will do the yearly effort to be a key sponsor proving

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] FOSS4G 2018 sponsorship

Folks, We have had this fear in the past. I remember when Autodesk decided to open Mapguide and some of us were furious and upset and worried about our community's influence and decisions. It seems that in the end It was not that important and It does not kill Mapserver. Good and open week.

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] FOSS4G 2018 sponsorship

I do not think of it as just an emotive response - some business models do not match our ideals as an organization (requirement to purchase a platform subscription for services, or an API key for data use). While some organizations match our ideals, but I do not like the ethics (dumping software

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] FOSS4G 2018 sponsorship

Indeed GDAL/OGR uses some ESRI code, example: https://github.com/OSGeo/gdal/blob/a1df7cb9df2fe3cbcfac974b434b01ac6a1946e5/gdal/frmts/mrf/JPEG_band.cpp#L21 If you don’t want anyone with competing products, it’ll be a short list, and somewhat difficult to justify (e.g. OSGeo has lots of

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] FOSS4G 2018 sponsorship

I did write that in a peculiar way didn’t I. :-) My point was merely, that while one can take a negative stance on corp sponsorship, it can also be seen as a positive kind of attention. The perspective changes a lot depending on a closed or open mindset. I personally find it a good thing, that

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] FOSS4G 2018 sponsorship

dear barry, please help me to better understand your position. If ESRI is "an Open Source company" as you say, if one submits a paper to FOSS4G 2018 about an application made with ArcGIS and some tools they publish in their github repo, will this paper be accepted by editors and reviewers? I

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] FOSS4G 2018 sponsorship

On 25 February 2018 at 19:16, Hogan, Patrick (ARC-PX) < patrick.ho...@nasa.gov> wrote: > +1 (for ‘not the only one’) > > It is good to receive support, I am not contesting that. > > But this issue seems worthy of considered discussion. > ESRI payed for (I understand from Frank) some of the

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] FOSS4G 2018 sponsorship

I am not sure we need the endorsement of others to be taken as serious - we are being taken serious because we are serious :) We are also fun, motivated, and out to win. But our “win” includes everyone :) On Sun, Feb 25, 2018 at 11:59 AM Hans Gregers Hedegaard Petersen < greg...@septima.dk>

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] FOSS4G 2018 sponsorship

+1 to Jodys point of view. If you do not want to end up preaching for the choir, then you have to welcome others. I would also like to urge people to consider that “contribution” has many facets. Having big industry sponsor an event or codecamp, could also be seen as labelling our conferences

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] FOSS4G 2018 sponsorship

I think it depends on how you see Open Source But Stefano you're not the only one... Maxi Il 25 feb 2018 19:49, "Luigi Pirelli" ha scritto: > Not the only one... Sorry > > On Sunday, 25 February 2018, Dan Little wrote: > >> You are the only one,

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] FOSS4G 2018 sponsorship

+1 (for ‘not the only one’) It is good to receive support, I am not contesting that. But this issue seems worthy of considered discussion. Even OGC receives considerable funding from ESRI, further complicating the issue. [sigh] -Patrick P.S.: Curious, was the Lidar compression ‘open standard’

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] FOSS4G 2018 sponsorship

Not the only one... Sorry On Sunday, 25 February 2018, Dan Little wrote: > You are the only one, and serving a very limited perspective. > > On Feb 25, 2018 08:43, "Stefano Campus" wrote: > >> Thank you for your quick reply, Maria. >> This is

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] FOSS4G 2018 sponsorship

OSGeo is an advocate for open source and encourage all organizations to contribute. Personally I am happy to see ESRI participating, and have watched their open source game improve with the java geometry library first being released, and perhaps now accepting contributions. There is always work

[OSGeo-Discuss] [announcement] GIS.lab version 0.7.0 released

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] FOSS4G 2018 sponsorship

I share the same postion of Stefano, Sandro and Andrea. And, above all, in my opinion, the discussion on this list has to be respectful. About the specific topic, organising a survey among the Charter Members could be interesting. In this way we have a clearer picture of our community (I don't

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] FOSS4G 2018 sponsorship

On Sun, Feb 25, 2018 at 3:54 PM, Dan Little wrote: > You are the only one, and serving a very limited perspective. > I also feel a bit uncomfortable having ESRI sponsor the conference, but I can see the other side as well. You should probably run statistics before

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] FOSS4G 2018 sponsorship

thanks for the info! s. Il 25/Feb/2018 04:02 PM, "Dan Little" ha scritto: > IBM, Google, and I believe even Microsoft have all sponsored various forms > of the conference over the years. There are commits in repos from ESRI > employees. Python, gdal, and other

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] FOSS4G 2018 sponsorship

IBM, Google, and I believe even Microsoft have all sponsored various forms of the conference over the years. There are commits in repos from ESRI employees. Python, gdal, and other projects are used directly in ESRI software. Sponsoring a conference is a pretty small, but visible way, to show

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] FOSS4G 2018 sponsorship

Obviously, as I said before, this is my perspective and I am ready to hear different opinions and to change mine. Thank you s. Il 25/Feb/2018 03:54 PM, "Dan Little" ha scritto: You are the only one, and serving a very limited perspective. On Feb 25, 2018 08:43,

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] FOSS4G 2018 sponsorship

You are the only one, and serving a very limited perspective. On Feb 25, 2018 08:43, "Stefano Campus" wrote: > Thank you for your quick reply, Maria. > This is certainly my mistake, since I had not noticed it. > But apart from that, am I the only one feeling that this

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] FOSS4G 2018 sponsorship

Thank you for your quick reply, Maria. This is certainly my mistake, since I had not noticed it. But apart from that, am I the only one feeling that this sponsorship is not exactly 'normal'? Stefano Il 25/Feb/2018 03:32 PM, "Maria Antonia Brovelli" ha scritto:

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] FOSS4G 2018 sponsorship

They've sponsored every FOSS4G Global since about 2010, except for 2015 (South Korea). And why not? They are an Open Source company: http://www.esri.com/software/open/open-source They use a *lot* of open source software, so its good that they give back. It does not earn them any power over the

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] FOSS4G 2018 sponsorship

Dear Stefano, this is not a novelty. It happened also in the previous years (see the websites of the conferences). Best, Maria A course worth your attending: http://sws.cept.ac.in/course-detail/geodata-and-gis-for-natural-and-built-environment-management-S18FT005 Have a good reading:

[OSGeo-Discuss] FOSS4G 2018 sponsorship

Hi, I see ESRI is one of the sponsor of FOSS4G 2018. Do the OSGeo Board and Local Committee think it is appropriate? Our Romans ancestors used to say: 'Pecunia non olet' (money don't smell) but sometimes... Thank you for your reply Stefano Campus ___