Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Open Source Geospatial Atlas

2013-03-18 Thread Robert Szczepanek
Hi Barry and others, Is Open Source Geospatial Atlas idea still alive? I hope so. Just to remind this good idea ... best regards, Robert On 05.08.2012 19:05, Barry Rowlingson wrote: For all those interested in the atlas project, I've started up a github site:

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Open Source Geospatial Atlas

2013-03-18 Thread Barry Rowlingson
On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 11:05 PM, Robert Szczepanek rob...@szczepanek.pl wrote: Hi Barry and others, Is Open Source Geospatial Atlas idea still alive? I hope so. Just to remind this good idea ... There were opinions that a printed atlas wouldn't be a worthwhile project due to quality, cost,

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Open Source Geospatial Atlas

2012-08-08 Thread Venkatesh Raghavan
Very interesting idea put forth by Barry. Would be great to see involvement from Local Chapters so that the Atlas could present contents other languages too. BTW, a Japanese company received Good Design Award for its maps that were prepared using FOSS4G tools some years ago (See

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Open Source Geospatial Atlas

2012-08-05 Thread Barry Rowlingson
For all those interested in the atlas project, I've started up a github site: https://github.com/barryrowlingson/osgeoatlas The .tex file there isn't compilable as it stands because the included map.pdf files aren't included, they are kinda large and I didn't want to clog the repo up with them.

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Open Source Geospatial Atlas

2012-07-31 Thread Doug_Newcomb
Hi Folks, Hi Guys, I agree totally with everything that has been said. I don't have a problem with using multiple applications to conduct my GIS work. I do all the time. I suppose the issue is what the purpose of the Atlas will be. To promote fosGIS or promote Open Source. I was under the

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Open Source Geospatial Atlas

2012-07-31 Thread Seven (aka Arnulf)
On 07/31/2012 12:57 PM, doug_newc...@fws.gov wrote: Hi Folks, Hi Guys, I agree totally with everything that has been said. I don't have a problem with using multiple applications to conduct my GIS work. I do all the time. I suppose the issue is what the purpose of the Atlas will be. To

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Open Source Geospatial Atlas

2012-07-31 Thread Mr. Puneet Kishor
On Jul 31, 2012, at 8:49 AM, Seven (aka Arnulf) se...@arnulf.us wrote: Btw: OdbL will be a great enabler for this because it requires to maintain this breadcrumb track when publishing the results. Confused as to how ODbL (http://opendatacommons.org/licenses/odbl/) is relevant here. Unless,

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Open Source Geospatial Atlas

2012-07-31 Thread julia harrell
To me, telling how it was done with open source geospatial tools is as important as that it was done with open source geospatial tools. I agree with Doug and others on this point. Those ESRI map books are 'pretty', but (much like the software) have little or no transparency in that they don't

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Open Source Geospatial Atlas

2012-07-31 Thread Barry Rowlingson
On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 2:26 PM, julia harrell julia.harr...@gmail.com wrote: This would make it a superior product - even if some of the maps aren't quite as 'pretty' as those in the ESRI map book :) Why wouldn't they be as pretty? You're exhibiting the very prejudice I'd like to

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Open Source Geospatial Atlas

2012-07-31 Thread julia harrell
I did not suggest that *all* the maps would not be as 'pretty'. I said that even if *some* of them weren't as pretty, that they'd still be superior products if they included information on how they were created and the design principles used, etc. I think we are all aware that it is (for the

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Open Source Geospatial Atlas

2012-07-31 Thread John Callahan
Yes, and those carto types have workflows that are geared towards how ESRI spits out ai/vector graphics. From my experience, it's much easier to get open source GIS involved through map/database server work or data processing/analysis rather then cartography. I end up doing much of the

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Open Source Geospatial Atlas

2012-07-31 Thread julia harrell
And sometimes those processing steps are too complicated or convoluted to write down neatly. It might be but the more you require/add to the atlas, the more effort required by the contributors. very true. maybe all the gory technical detail does not all have to be included in the book

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Open Source Geospatial Atlas

2012-07-31 Thread Seven (aka Arnulf)
On 07/31/2012 02:48 PM, julia harrell wrote: I did not suggest that *all* the maps would not be as 'pretty'. I said that even if *some* of them weren't as pretty, that they'd still be superior products if they included information on how they were created and the design principles used, etc.

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Open Source Geospatial Atlas

2012-07-31 Thread Seven (aka Arnulf)
On 07/31/2012 02:14 PM, Mr. Puneet Kishor wrote: On Jul 31, 2012, at 8:49 AM, Seven (aka Arnulf) se...@arnulf.us wrote: Btw: OdbL will be a great enabler for this because it requires to maintain this breadcrumb track when publishing the results. Confused as to how ODbL

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Open Source Geospatial Atlas

2012-07-30 Thread Barry Rowlingson
On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 1:49 AM, Simon Cropper simoncrop...@fossworkflowguides.com wrote: I think it important however that people *do not* use Inkscape, unless of course it is being put up as an fosGIS package. Using Inkscape has come about due to the inherent deficiencies in map production

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Open Source Geospatial Atlas

2012-07-30 Thread George Silva
Oops folks, it's fossgisbrasil.com.br. We are publishing each quarter; Thanks for the complements. On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 6:46 AM, Nathan Woodrow madman...@gmail.com wrote: Barry, This sounds like a good idea, I would be happy to contribute something. I have two ESRI map books at work that

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Open Source Geospatial Atlas

2012-07-30 Thread David William Bitner
I think it important however that people *do not* use Inkscape, unless of course it is being put up as an fosGIS package. Using Inkscape has come about due to the inherent deficiencies in map production in various packages. Any maps produced for such a book need to be produced solely

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Open Source Geospatial Atlas

2012-07-30 Thread Puneet Kishor
On Jul 30, 2012, at 10:28 AM, David William Bitner bit...@gyttja.org wrote: I think it important however that people *do not* use Inkscape, unless of course it is being put up as an fosGIS package. Using Inkscape has come about due to the inherent deficiencies in map production in

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Open Source Geospatial Atlas

2012-07-30 Thread John Callahan
I concur with David here. We publish numerous maps and always use Illustrator (or other design tools) in the workflow process. We are an Arc shop for the map publication work (although I have been able to get QGIS involved in a few places) and have submitted maps to the ESRI Map Books. We just

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Open Source Geospatial Atlas

2012-07-30 Thread Cameron Shorter
On 30/07/12 02:07, Barry Rowlingson wrote: Okay, next steps - can I start a page on the OSgeo wiki? What do I need to get an official OSgeo stamp of approval and use the logo? Barry, Yes, creating (or extending) a wiki is a good idea. I think you ideas fit in well with the Marketing Pipleline

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Open Source Geospatial Atlas

2012-07-30 Thread Simon Cropper
On 31/07/12 00:53, John Callahan wrote: I concur with David here. We publish numerous maps and always use Illustrator (or other design tools) in the workflow process. We are an Arc shop for the map publication work (although I have been able to get QGIS involved in a few places) and have

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Open Source Geospatial Atlas

2012-07-29 Thread Barry Rowlingson
Hi all, thanks for all the comments in the last 24 hours or so. Here's comments on them: How to deal with the data property and rights, ragrding both printing or spreading on the Web ? We'd have to get permission from the authors, but that shouldn't be a problem. I recently edited a

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Open Source Geospatial Atlas

2012-07-29 Thread se...@arnulf.us
-Discuss] Open Source Geospatial Atlas Date: Sat, Jul 28, 2012 13:57 Barry, Hi also think it is a really good idea. However, one simple question comes to my mind: How to deal with the data property and rights, ragrding both printing or spreading on the Web ? May be such an initiative should

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Open Source Geospatial Atlas

2012-07-29 Thread Michael P. Gerlek
Also, some companies would be willing to help underwrite production costs in exchange for some small ads on the back pages, if we wanted to go that way. Nice idea, but initial production costs are zero with publish-on-demand - its just the time of the editor. Ah, but you're not thinking

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Open Source Geospatial Atlas

2012-07-29 Thread Dimitris Kotzinos
Dear all, I would like to second Arnulf's suggestions for the committee and the white paper. Slight amendment : let's name it Open Geospatial Data Committee. I'd be happy to participate. Best, Dimitris Really good idea, and great to see

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Open Source Geospatial Atlas

2012-07-29 Thread Simon Cropper
discuss@lists.osgeo.org Subject: [OSGeo-Discuss] Open Source Geospatial Atlas Date: Sat, Jul 28, 2012 13:57 Barry, Hi also think it is a really good idea. However, one simple question comes to my mind: How to deal with the data property and rights, ragrding both printing or spreading on the Web

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Open Source Geospatial Atlas

2012-07-29 Thread George Silva
nicolas.bo...@gmail.com To: Michael P. Gerlek m...@flaxen.com Cc: osgeo-discuss discuss@lists.osgeo.org Subject: [OSGeo-Discuss] Open Source Geospatial Atlas Date: Sat, Jul 28, 2012 13:57 Barry, Hi also think it is a really good idea. However, one simple question comes to my mind: How to deal

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Open Source Geospatial Atlas

2012-07-29 Thread Andrew Turner
On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 6:42 PM, Dimitris Kotzinos kotz...@csd.uoc.gr wrote: Dear all, I would like to second Arnulf's suggestions for the committee and the white paper. Slight amendment : let's name it Open Geospatial Data Committee. I'd be happy to participate. +1 on an Open Geospatial

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Open Source Geospatial Atlas

2012-07-29 Thread Simon Cropper
On 30/07/12 11:43, Andrew Turner wrote: On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 6:42 PM, Dimitris Kotzinos kotz...@csd.uoc.gr wrote: Dear all, I would like to second Arnulf's suggestions for the committee and the white paper. Slight amendment : let's name it Open Geospatial Data Committee. I'd be happy to

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Open Source Geospatial Atlas

2012-07-29 Thread Mr. Puneet Kishor
On Jul 29, 2012, at 9:43 PM, Andrew Turner ajtur...@highearthorbit.com wrote: On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 6:42 PM, Dimitris Kotzinos kotz...@csd.uoc.gr wrote: Dear all, I would like to second Arnulf's suggestions for the committee and the white paper. Slight amendment : let's name it Open

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Open Source Geospatial Atlas

2012-07-29 Thread Ravi Kumar
+1 Great possibilities for Public-participatory data.  From: Simon Cropper simoncrop...@fossworkflowguides.com To: discuss@lists.osgeo.org Sent: Monday, July 30, 2012 7:39 AM Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Open Source Geospatial Atlas On 30/07/12 11:43, Andrew

[OSGeo-Discuss] Open Source Geospatial Atlas

2012-07-28 Thread Barry Rowlingson
Do you think an atlas of beautiful maps produced with open-source technology (software and data) could be made? Here's what I was thinking: * Put out a proposal for beautiful cartography, stunning maps, and insightful visualisations done with OpenSource applications and/or Open Data. * Collect

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Open Source Geospatial Atlas

2012-07-28 Thread nicolas bozon
Barry, Hi also think it is a really good idea. However, one simple question comes to my mind: How to deal with the data property and rights, ragrding both printing or spreading on the Web ? May be such an initiative should accept maps using OpenData or OSM only ? Best, Nick 2012/7/28

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Open Source Geospatial Atlas

2012-07-28 Thread Mark Lucas
Great idea, I was just thinking that we need to add something exciting and new that promotes OSGeo. The OSGeo live disk certainly does that, but this would place more emphasis on data/art/style. I know there is a large segment within OSGeo that would like to focus more on education and

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Open Source Geospatial Atlas

2012-07-28 Thread Mr. Puneet Kishor
On Jul 28, 2012, at 7:33 AM, Barry Rowlingson b.rowling...@lancaster.ac.uk wrote: Do you think an atlas of beautiful maps produced with open-source technology (software and data) could be made? Here's what I was thinking: .. Great idea, but a physical book in today's day and age?

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Open Source Geospatial Atlas

2012-07-28 Thread maning sambale
cool idea! i love to bring this book to my regular fossgeo promotion rounds. On Jul 28, 2012 8:46 PM, nicolas bozon nicolas.bo...@gmail.com wrote: Great ideas ! I think if the input format is generic enough (LateX, or Sphinx may be..), we would be able to provide such a maps collection

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Open Source Geospatial Atlas

2012-07-28 Thread Angelos Tzotsos
Very good idea. It would be also interesting if map creation instructions on the book could be demonstrated using OSGeoLive and the tools provided in it. This way the Live DVD could be distributed with the book (and vise versa). Thoughts? Angelos On 07/28/2012 03:07 PM, Mark Lucas wrote: