[OSGeo-Discuss] Jump into OSGeo

2008-06-12 Thread RAVI KUMAR
Hi, have been following the very positive correspondence for OpenJUMP joining OSGeo. Here in India GRASS and OpenJUMP are the most used among Open Source GIS, in various universities. This endeavor is a result of the roadshows conducted by OSGeo India chapter in various universities. The entire

[OSGeo-Discuss] Chickens, Boards and Export Restrictions

2008-06-12 Thread Arnulf Christl
All, every now and then governance issues pop up in lists and on IRC. I will try to summarizes some of them for those of .us who do not follow all OSGeo communication that closely. One critique is that the board of directors does not make decisions easily and quickly which could be seen as a

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Chickens, Boards and Export Restrictions

2008-06-12 Thread Paul Ramsey
On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 8:56 AM, Arnulf Christl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But instead, she incarnated in the US, the most backwater place imaginable wrt Open Source. So, this raises two actions items: - Putting our policy online (presumably copied from Apache shamelessly) in a findable

RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] Chickens, Boards and Export Restrictions

2008-06-12 Thread Michael P. Gerlek
Aside I interrupt here to point out that of late the Board has been faced with some significant questions about the aim and scope of our organization. This is a good thing: it is what the Board is there for. We the Charter Members are tasked with electing new board members shortly, and thus have

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Chickens, Boards and Export Restrictions

2008-06-12 Thread Paul Ramsey
Interesting Aside. Could the CRO perhaps ensure there's a way to QA with the board nominees during the process? Perhaps a list of questions at the top of the wiki page, and nominees can answer as few/many of them as they like in their own page sections. P On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 9:34 AM, Michael

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Chickens, Boards and Export Restrictions

2008-06-12 Thread Paulo Marcondes
2008/6/12 Paul Ramsey [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Interesting Aside. Could the CRO perhaps ensure there's a way to QA with the board nominees during the process? Perhaps a list of questions at the top of the wiki page, and nominees can answer as few/many of them as they like in their own page sections.

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Chickens, Boards and Export Restrictions

2008-06-12 Thread Paul Ramsey
On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 8:56 AM, Arnulf Christl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I for one get this feedback on a regular basis from parts of the German speaking community. This sentiment has lead to a lot of discussion within the GaV which is the existing German FOSSGIS community, a legal entity

[OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo Fundraising

2008-06-12 Thread Landon Blake
I stole the following snippet from another of Paul Ramsey's posts. I thought it belonged in a separate thread: Paul wrote: Having a plan to take better advantage of our host nation status. We pay a good deal in terms of administrative overhead to be a fully tax-exempt charity in the USofA, what

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Chickens, Boards and Export Restrictions

2008-06-12 Thread Dave Patton
On 2008/06/12 8:56 AM, Arnulf Christl wrote: Anyway. Another triviality we need to address are export restrictions. Due to formal reasons OSGeo was required to incorporate[4]. It could have been Togo - home of one of the most active and diverse spatial communities[5]. Or it could have been

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Chickens, Boards and Export Restrictions

2008-06-12 Thread Paul Ramsey
On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 10:23 AM, Dave Patton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are there practical matters (e.g. wording in the foundation's charter or letters of incorporation) that preclude OSGeo from being incorporated in multiple jurisdictions? Yes, it's work to be an entity. We're having enough

[OSGeo-Discuss] The Germans and The Brazilians...

2008-06-12 Thread Landon Blake
I would like to add two (2) brief comments about the issue if American influence in the OSGeo, and the role members from other language groups/nations play in the organization. The first comment is about utilizing the mechanism for local chapters. Perhaps this is a vehicle that members from

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] The Germans and The Brazilians...

2008-06-12 Thread Paulo Marcondes
2008/6/12 Landon Blake [EMAIL PROTECTED]: take. Why couldn't a group in Brazil or Germany form a local chapter of the OSGeo that is incorporated in their nation to pursue not only a common OSGeo As for Brazil, incorporating was ruled out early on, IIRC, mainly because of the high cost of

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Software Language

2008-06-12 Thread Paul Ramsey
On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 10:32 AM, Landon Blake [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The reality is that the software world is dominated by the western world and the English language. (How many programming languages do you know of that are written in Russian?) :] I hope a Russian answers, because given

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Software Language

2008-06-12 Thread Miles Fidelman
Paul Ramsey wrote: On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 10:32 AM, Landon Blake [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The reality is that the software world is dominated by the western world and the English language. (How many programming languages do you know of that are written in Russian?) :] There's always

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] The Germans and The Brazilians...

2008-06-12 Thread andrea giacomelli
Dear sunburned Landon ;) This is a very interesting topic. Two broad comments 1) on the *vehicle that members from other language groups or nations can use to accomplish more of their own goals under the OSGeo umbrella*. issue: This is what happened in Italy. Back in Fall-Winter 2006/2007

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] The Germans and The Brazilians...

2008-06-12 Thread Daniel Morissette
andrea giacomelli wrote: I encourage ANY new chapter to consider this prior to opening a wiki section on the OSGEO site as a local chapter (whiche does not mean I don't like the OSGEO wiki). I encourage ANY pre-existing local chapter that does not yet have a local formal entity to

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Driving licenses for geofoss?

2008-06-12 Thread Silvia Franceschi
Hi Andrea, thanks for the info. We could try to do the same thing of QGIS and GVsig with uDig-JGrass. Could you send me some material to check what we should have and what are the main needs? We also have some free data released from the public administration of Merano last november those we put

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Chickens, Boards and Export Restrictions

2008-06-12 Thread Cameron Shorter
An Australian perspective, where we speak English almost exclusively: I'd like to think we can address most of these issues by focusing on: 1. Be true to OSGeo's core values, possibly update them where they are unclear. * We promote Open Source Software and Open content. * Engaging the

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] The Germans and The Brazilians...

2008-06-12 Thread andrea giacomelli
Daniel - 1) I can provide my personal opinion (still, built on top of almost 18 months of making an effort within GFOSS.it, and a much longer period in thinking on how to help raise awareness on GIS and open source). All of this reasoning spawns from the mission that we see for a local chapter

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Chickens, Boards and Export Restrictions

2008-06-12 Thread Tyler Mitchell (OSGeo)
On 12-Jun-08, at 9:20 AM, Paul Ramsey wrote: - Putting our policy online (presumably copied from Apache shamelessly) in a findable location, to conform to the legal norms of our host nation. I'll have to re-read Arnulf's note to understand more precisely what you are referring to here... we

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Driving licenses for geofoss?

2008-06-12 Thread andrea giacomelli
ciao Silvia - please see below. 2008/6/12 Silvia Franceschi [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi Andrea, thanks for the info. We could try to do the same thing of QGIS and GVsig with uDig-JGrass. If I may, I would suggest that we first wait to close out the test with one application. Getting through the

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Chickens, Boards and Export Restrictions

2008-06-12 Thread Bruce . Bannerman
IMO: Paul, Some Local Chapters are going through this process currently, e.g. OSGeo-AustNZ. We will need to incorporate as a non profit within Australia with its overheads of audits, annual fees etc. One potential upside is that we may get some protection by way of Directors Insurance for

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Chickens, Boards and Export Restrictions

2008-06-12 Thread Dave Patton
On 2008/06/12 5:01 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: IMO: Paul, Some Local Chapters are going through this process currently, e.g. OSGeo-AustNZ. We will need to incorporate as a non profit within Australia with its overheads of audits, annual fees etc. One potential upside is that we may get