[OSGeo-Discuss] 3.0 OpenLayers code sprint - call for sponsorships

2008-12-18 Thread David JONGLEZ
Hello,

This mail is a call for sponsorships to organize the « 3.0 OpenLayers
code sprint ». This event enables European OpenLayers community and
OpenLayers developers from around the world to meet.

The likelihood of an OpenLayers code sprint (for version 3.0) is taking
shape. It is scheduled to take place for 4-5 days during the month of
March 2009 in France, in a remote and isolated part of the Alps (a quiet
place to achieve better work on this major release!).

The cost of the stay (travel expenses excluded) is about 750 € per
person. As organizers, we want to cover all incurred expenses during the
event as well as the maximum of travel expenses i.e. a budget of about
10'000 € for 6 persons. Only the time spent at the event would then be
at the charge of the developers (and/or their respective
organization/company).

Any kind of support is welcome... A PayPal account is an easy means to
carry out a sponsoring activity, even a small one, as an individual or
as a company's endorsement. For a larger sponsorship, please do not
hesitate to contact me or Virginie Jourdan directly – virginie.jourdan
at camptocamp.com : we can suggest a communication partner plan (based
on OpenLayers community's sponsoring activities).

Thank you for supporting this initiative which will encourage the
promotion of French and European Open Source Geoinformatics within the
OSGeo.

Sincerely yours,

David Jonglez

PS: For more information on the Code Sprint, please look up the following:

* Event Web page: http://trac.openlayers.org/wiki/CodeSprint2009
* Mailing list discussions:
  http://www.nabble.com/Code-Sprint-2009-td20722889.html
* Page on Version 3.0 of OpenLayers:
  http://trac.openlayers.org/wiki/three

PayPal account : codesprint_sponsoring at camptocamp.com (using for
example the send-money
https://www.paypal.com/ch/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_send-money )

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Batiment le Suroît, Le Square
48 avenue du Lac du Bourget
73 377 Le Bourget du Lac Cedex

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] 3.0 OpenLayers code sprint - call for sponsorships

2008-12-18 Thread Lorenzo Becchi

Hi David,
this event seems really a good idea.

I have a couple of doubts:
why not to join the OSGeo Hacking Event in Bolsena [1] in June? 


maybe two hacking events so close in time are too many.
This year the event in Bolsena has been successful to many, afaik. Well 
at least to me.

:-)

The other problem I have is that I will go to the Spanish FOSS GIS [2] 
meting of Girona in mid march.


ciao
lorenzo

[1] http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/OSGeo_Hacking_Event_2009
[2] http://www.sigte.udg.es/jornadassiglibre/



David JONGLEZ wrote:

Hello,

This mail is a call for sponsorships to organize the « 3.0 OpenLayers
code sprint ». This event enables European OpenLayers community and
OpenLayers developers from around the world to meet.

The likelihood of an OpenLayers code sprint (for version 3.0) is taking
shape. It is scheduled to take place for 4-5 days during the month of
March 2009 in France, in a remote and isolated part of the Alps (a quiet
place to achieve better work on this major release!).

The cost of the stay (travel expenses excluded) is about 750 € per
person. As organizers, we want to cover all incurred expenses during the
event as well as the maximum of travel expenses i.e. a budget of about
10'000 € for 6 persons. Only the time spent at the event would then be
at the charge of the developers (and/or their respective
organization/company).

Any kind of support is welcome... A PayPal account is an easy means to
carry out a sponsoring activity, even a small one, as an individual or
as a company's endorsement. For a larger sponsorship, please do not
hesitate to contact me or Virginie Jourdan directly – virginie.jourdan
at camptocamp.com : we can suggest a communication partner plan (based
on OpenLayers community's sponsoring activities).

Thank you for supporting this initiative which will encourage the
promotion of French and European Open Source Geoinformatics within the
OSGeo.

Sincerely yours,

David Jonglez

PS: For more information on the Code Sprint, please look up the following:

* Event Web page: http://trac.openlayers.org/wiki/CodeSprint2009
* Mailing list discussions:
  http://www.nabble.com/Code-Sprint-2009-td20722889.html
* Page on Version 3.0 of OpenLayers:
  http://trac.openlayers.org/wiki/three

PayPal account : codesprint_sponsoring at camptocamp.com (using for
example the send-money
https://www.paypal.com/ch/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_send-money )

  
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[OSGeo-Discuss] State of OpenAerialMap

2008-12-18 Thread Christopher Schmidt
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State of the OpenAerialMap
==

For entirely too long, I've been putting off this email. I apologize for
that.

OpenAerialMap started as a project about a year ago, when I was working
with some aerial data provided by a number of sources. Instead of putting
together all of the different sources, I was interested in combining them
into one world-coverage basemap, to act as an open replacement for the
Google Maps imagery layer for purposes where the highest resolutions are
less important, or other data can fill in the gaps.

In part, this project was also started with the idea that it woul be able
to take on a supporting role in the hosting of small datasets, like those
taken via kite photography projects and drone-flown imagery.

In the beginning, the idea was simple: take any data that was available on
the web, convert it to uncompressed geotiffs  in EPSG:4326, spit out some
tiles, and call it done. 

We started with support for GeoTIFFs, and expanded into supporting both
WMS and GDAL tileindexes. The site gained some traction, and started
getting people from different places around the globe -- peopel who had no
idea of how to work with raster data -- attempting to contribute.

From about February of this year, the situation continued to get worse.
With no active community around the project -- in part due to technical
limitations, in part due to any active groups seeking to help build that
community -- the project stagnated. With the easy problems solved, only
the hard problems were left, and the hard problems tended to be hard to
solve. 

Some of the issues that have been brought up repeatedly:

 * The 'base' dataset for most of the world is a landsat dataset provided
   by i-Cubed. The licensing of this dataset is unclear. It was provided
   to... someone. The usage restrictions on it were not made clear. It is
   possible that this dataset is free to use... or possible that it's not
   at all free to use.
  
   Because this dataset is the base for most of the world -- and appears
   to be a relatively well-served landsat dataset, something generally
   rather rare -- most questions about OpenAerialMap come down to the
   rights of use of this layer.

   There are clearly several paths to solving this particular problem.
   The first path that I've been trying since OAM started was to actually
   get some kind of statement about the rights attached to this layer.
   Unfortunately, that path has failed miserably so far, so it seems that
   it is probably best to abandon this path, and treat the current landsat
   imagery served via OAM as encumbered with copyright restrictions.

   This leaves a second path available, which is to build a landsat
   service which is not encumbered. I believe this should be possible to
   do, and I'm sure that the group of people interested in seeing a
   free/open OAM will be glad to step up.

 * The process of adding data to OAM was, practically speaking, impossible
   for anyone who was not an expert to follow. There are a number of
   technical reason for this, but I think that it is completely reasonable
   to say that these problems can only be resolved by participation in the
   project from people who are at least vaguely knowledgable about working
   with large geographic data.

   I would suggest that what the project really needs is a way to upload
   data to be processed by the OpenAerialMap server itself, rather than
   depending on users to upload 'appropriate' data. This means developing
   a processing queue to convert data from any available format to one
   more suitable for use in OAM. The discussion of what is 'appopriate'
   for OAM requires further discussion as well.

   Combined with this should be improvements to the TileCache, which
   is currently never expired.

 * Storing a whole world sized dataset at the maximum resolution available
   for the whole world -- even at a single given point in time, ignoring
   all other constraints -- is a *really big* 'problem' to solve. One of
   the things that caused my work on loading data into OAM to slow down --
   beyond a lack of interest from any other participants -- is not that
   there was too little data, but instead that there was too much. There
   is 1M or 2M data available for the *entire US* taken every year. This
   data is gigantic -- and it's only a small portion of the total data out
   there.  This one, I don't have a real solution for. I don't see the
   path out of it with any resources that OAM currnetly has available or
   on offer.
  
 * Related to the above, some of the technical possibilities  -- 
   specifically, compressing the data using lossy compression -- has
   issues that are difficult to make happen; these could be 

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] 3.0 OpenLayers code sprint - call for sponsorships

2008-12-18 Thread Erik Uzureau
David,

It looks like this is shaping up to be quite an event!

The dates on the wiki page still seem very open, but you mention mid-March.
Can we be more precise with the dates that are being considered? March is
already not that far away and it would help to have a tighter window for us to
start pitching this to mgmt.

As for the lodging, all these ski chalets sounds wonderful. The only thing I
would suggest is that, given the nature of this work to be done (sounds to
me like probably more debating than coding, necessarily) it will be crucial
to have a big meeting space and a projector so that people can make
presentations to the group as a whole.

It is great to see CampToCamp stepping forward to organize this event, I
think it will be a great opportunity to get some good work done.

Erik

ps. I'll forward the original post to the users@ and dev@ lists for openlayers




On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 07:21, David JONGLEZ
david.jong...@camptocamp.com wrote:
 Hello,

 This mail is a call for sponsorships to organize the « 3.0 OpenLayers
 code sprint ». This event enables European OpenLayers community and
 OpenLayers developers from around the world to meet.

 The likelihood of an OpenLayers code sprint (for version 3.0) is taking
 shape. It is scheduled to take place for 4-5 days during the month of
 March 2009 in France, in a remote and isolated part of the Alps (a quiet
 place to achieve better work on this major release!).

 The cost of the stay (travel expenses excluded) is about 750 € per
 person. As organizers, we want to cover all incurred expenses during the
 event as well as the maximum of travel expenses i.e. a budget of about
 10'000 € for 6 persons. Only the time spent at the event would then be
 at the charge of the developers (and/or their respective
 organization/company).

 Any kind of support is welcome... A PayPal account is an easy means to
 carry out a sponsoring activity, even a small one, as an individual or
 as a company's endorsement. For a larger sponsorship, please do not
 hesitate to contact me or Virginie Jourdan directly – virginie.jourdan
 at camptocamp.com : we can suggest a communication partner plan (based
 on OpenLayers community's sponsoring activities).

 Thank you for supporting this initiative which will encourage the
 promotion of French and European Open Source Geoinformatics within the
 OSGeo.

 Sincerely yours,

 David Jonglez

 PS: For more information on the Code Sprint, please look up the following:

* Event Web page: http://trac.openlayers.org/wiki/CodeSprint2009
* Mailing list discussions:
  http://www.nabble.com/Code-Sprint-2009-td20722889.html
* Page on Version 3.0 of OpenLayers:
  http://trac.openlayers.org/wiki/three

 PayPal account : codesprint_sponsoring at camptocamp.com (using for
 example the send-money
 https://www.paypal.com/ch/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_send-money )

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 Camptocamp France SAS
 www.camptocamp.com
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 Savoie Technolac, BP 352
 Batiment le Suroît, Le Square
 48 avenue du Lac du Bourget
 73 377 Le Bourget du Lac Cedex


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