[OSGeo-Discuss] Open Science and Innovation: Of the People, By the People, For the People
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Open Science and Innovation: Of the People, By the People, For the People
Thanks, good link! El dom, 27-09-2015 a las 16:12 +, Suchith Anand escribió: > https://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2015/09/09/open-science-and-innovation-people-people-people > > Best wishes, > > Suchith > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee > and may contain confidential information. If you have received this > message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. > > Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this > message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the > author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the > University of Nottingham. > > This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an > attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your > computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email > communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as > permitted by UK legislation. > > ___ > Discuss mailing list > Discuss@lists.osgeo.org > http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[OSGeo-Discuss] Vote for OSGeo Board of Directors elections 2015 extended
Dear charter members, Your CRO speaking. Please find bellow the board of directors election status 2 hours before the official voting deadline: Full responses: 215 Incomplete responses: 7 No response: 58 I decided to extend the voting period until Tuesday midnight (12:00 GMT September 29). Meantime, I will try to get personally in touch with all the 65 charter members who did vote until now, via all known electronic means. Actually, some of you already received a "personal reminder" via different social media. I'm doing this because: 1. Some of you had a thick agenda in office after vacation or due to events like FOSS4G. 2. Some of the contacts in our database are not up to date or some charter members are registered with OSGeo with e-mail addresses that are not checking on a regular basis anymore. 3. Some of you are no longer involved in geospatial world or no longer have time for OSGeo. This is totally understandable. If you are in this position, please consider to step down/retire from the charter member group. But also, please, let us know. Best, Vasile PS please do not get angry on me if you receive reminders on more than on channel :) ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] [Board] Fwd: Fwd: Consider extending deadline for board voting
Thank you, Maria & Jorge! Best, Vasile On 9/27/15 9:06 PM, Jorge Sanz wrote: On 26 September 2015 at 20:49, Polimi> wrote: I want to thank you publicly Vasile for all the time that you are donating us with your precious volunteer work! Have a nice Sunday! Maria +1 This is a really time consuming task along with a great responsibility. Thanks Vasile!! -- Jorge Sanz http://www.osgeo.org http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Jorge_Sanz GPG: 86F8 3EA0 BD19 0CA2 801D 4FB2 6B45 68E4 6FB2 D89D ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo is becoming irrelevant. Here's why. Let's fix it.
So far I have enjoyed this thread for the number of ideas it brings forth. Just want to highlight the small difference between a forge (SourceForge, Google Code, Gitourious, GitHub) and Foundation (OSGeo, Apache, Linux, Eclipse). Forges tend to focus software version control, build facilities, and artifact hosting. They make money by selling these same facilities to enterprise, while often accepting open source projects "on board" as a form of free advertising. Foundations focus on projects (license, legal, governance, promotion .. some even include a social agenda). When they make money they do so by providing vendor neutral table for organizations to collaborate together (even if they kick each other under the table on occasion). Software hosting services are incidental to these goals - although some foundations like Apache take on hosting as way to control the legal exposure that comes with hosting code. One advantage of OSGeo as a foundation is we have the flexibility to allow out project to change up which forge they use over time (seeing projects migrate from cvs, subversion, SourceForge / GoogleCode / GitHub). For projects OSGeo provides something to "belong to" and a fair brand boost :) So yeah, if OSGeo rolled up the carpet we would have to set up another foundation for the projects the next day. -- Jody -- Jody Garnett On 26 September 2015 at 12:38, Frank Gasdorfwrote: > Thanks Darrell for such a clear and structured statement. > I'd like to add a few thoughts. First I'd like to aggree to the > infrastructure thing, in times Open Source projects can get a space (SCM, > Ticket system, Build infrastructure, etc) for free everywhere it's kind of > wired OSGeo paying for it. Like Jo noticed, things changing over time and > maybe here projects can move forward - e.g. like GeoTools and GeoServer > did. The point was and still is, that's not OSGeo driven to provide a > common infrastructure for OSGeo projects. Each project cares about it's own > setup and that burns a lot of volunteering time. However, maybe here can > start the discussion, if that would be a benefit for projects. > IMHO FOSS4G is a brand, wheras OSGeo isn't. I never has been involved yet > organizing a FOSS4G but it sounds like a hugh effort from local teams > slightly supported by OSGeo. I love FOSS4G's because its a chance to have > face to face meetings with Contributors and Users from all over the world. > In the past I remember the WMS shootouts where I got the impression, > OSGeo/FOSS4G is the best place it can be happen: Several projects in a > battle to improve these all together. Thats making the world a better > place.. > On other levels, would it be worth to setup similiar competitions for > other fields: Tile caches, Desktop clients, Processing Implementations and > so on. Would that help to push projects and provide comparable values > between OS and proprietary projects. > > Same for codesprints and hackathons... Sponsoring such events helps > growing community, improving projects and finally helps users who using > this great software stack > How can OSGeo help creating Solutions with Components of this stack. OSGeo > Live is the first step I guess: Setup things and finding out how the fit > together. We learned a lot from other projects within OSGeo live and that > improves each project I guess. What's the major output for Users? > > What about "Long Term Support", would that be a field OSGeo could help > projects and users in the same way? > Maybe we can think about other sponsoring models, where Companies paying > anual fees. What could the expect from OSGeo, what would be an added value > for these? > And finally, from a uDig perspective: Whats the different between > Geospatial organizations such as OSGeo and LocationTech. From my > perspective : They have a totally different history, I 'd say community > driven vs. company driven, which includes different sponsoring models. > Maybe its worth to think about: Whats the driver, the community or the > business behind sponsoring companies? > > Again, Thank you Darrell for initial post, I guess the discussion helps a > lot to get a Strategy for the future > > Warm regards, Frank > > 2015-09-26 15:29 GMT+02:00 Jo Cook : > >> Hi All, and especially Darrel, >> >> In his email Darrel articulated some ideas that I have been having for a >> couple of years now, but haven't been able to clearly define. >> >> So firstly I'd like to say that I totally agree with Darrel's points (and >> Michael Gerlek's previously)- OSGeo is definitely in danger of becoming >> irrelevant. Some of this is down to being a victim of its own success. The >> projects have, in many cases, matured and become popular to the point where >> they no longer need OSGeo. I'd really like to see a thorough assessment of >> our goals and objectives to decide what is still important. The >> availability of infrastructure, version control, open
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo is becoming irrelevant. Here's why. Let's fix it.
+1 On Mon, Sep 28, 2015 at 7:55 AM, Jody Garnettwrote: > So far I have enjoyed this thread for the number of ideas it brings forth. > > Just want to highlight the small difference between a forge (SourceForge, > Google Code, Gitourious, GitHub) and Foundation (OSGeo, Apache, Linux, > Eclipse). > > Forges tend to focus software version control, build facilities, and > artifact hosting. They make money by selling these same facilities to > enterprise, while often accepting open source projects "on board" as a form > of free advertising. > > Foundations focus on projects (license, legal, governance, promotion .. > some even include a social agenda). When they make money they do so by > providing vendor neutral table for organizations to collaborate together > (even if they kick each other under the table on occasion). Software > hosting services are incidental to these goals - although some foundations > like Apache take on hosting as way to control the legal exposure that comes > with hosting code. > > One advantage of OSGeo as a foundation is we have the flexibility to allow > out project to change up which forge they use over time (seeing projects > migrate from cvs, subversion, SourceForge / GoogleCode / GitHub). > > For projects OSGeo provides something to "belong to" and a fair brand > boost :) > > So yeah, if OSGeo rolled up the carpet we would have to set up another > foundation for the projects the next day. > -- > Jody > > -- > Jody Garnett > > On 26 September 2015 at 12:38, Frank Gasdorf > wrote: > >> Thanks Darrell for such a clear and structured statement. >> I'd like to add a few thoughts. First I'd like to aggree to the >> infrastructure thing, in times Open Source projects can get a space (SCM, >> Ticket system, Build infrastructure, etc) for free everywhere it's kind of >> wired OSGeo paying for it. Like Jo noticed, things changing over time and >> maybe here projects can move forward - e.g. like GeoTools and GeoServer >> did. The point was and still is, that's not OSGeo driven to provide a >> common infrastructure for OSGeo projects. Each project cares about it's own >> setup and that burns a lot of volunteering time. However, maybe here can >> start the discussion, if that would be a benefit for projects. >> IMHO FOSS4G is a brand, wheras OSGeo isn't. I never has been involved yet >> organizing a FOSS4G but it sounds like a hugh effort from local teams >> slightly supported by OSGeo. I love FOSS4G's because its a chance to have >> face to face meetings with Contributors and Users from all over the world. >> In the past I remember the WMS shootouts where I got the impression, >> OSGeo/FOSS4G is the best place it can be happen: Several projects in a >> battle to improve these all together. Thats making the world a better >> place.. >> On other levels, would it be worth to setup similiar competitions for >> other fields: Tile caches, Desktop clients, Processing Implementations and >> so on. Would that help to push projects and provide comparable values >> between OS and proprietary projects. >> >> Same for codesprints and hackathons... Sponsoring such events helps >> growing community, improving projects and finally helps users who using >> this great software stack >> How can OSGeo help creating Solutions with Components of this stack. >> OSGeo Live is the first step I guess: Setup things and finding out how the >> fit together. We learned a lot from other projects within OSGeo live and >> that improves each project I guess. What's the major output for Users? >> >> What about "Long Term Support", would that be a field OSGeo could help >> projects and users in the same way? >> Maybe we can think about other sponsoring models, where Companies paying >> anual fees. What could the expect from OSGeo, what would be an added value >> for these? >> And finally, from a uDig perspective: Whats the different between >> Geospatial organizations such as OSGeo and LocationTech. From my >> perspective : They have a totally different history, I 'd say community >> driven vs. company driven, which includes different sponsoring models. >> Maybe its worth to think about: Whats the driver, the community or the >> business behind sponsoring companies? >> >> Again, Thank you Darrell for initial post, I guess the discussion helps a >> lot to get a Strategy for the future >> >> Warm regards, Frank >> >> 2015-09-26 15:29 GMT+02:00 Jo Cook : >> >>> Hi All, and especially Darrel, >>> >>> In his email Darrel articulated some ideas that I have been having for a >>> couple of years now, but haven't been able to clearly define. >>> >>> So firstly I'd like to say that I totally agree with Darrel's points >>> (and Michael Gerlek's previously)- OSGeo is definitely in danger of >>> becoming irrelevant. Some of this is down to being a victim of its own >>> success. The projects have, in many cases, matured and become popular to >>> the point
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] [Board] Fwd: Fwd: Consider extending deadline for board voting
On 26 September 2015 at 20:49, Polimiwrote: > I want to thank you publicly Vasile for all the time that you are donating > us with your precious volunteer work! > Have a nice Sunday! > Maria > > +1 This is a really time consuming task along with a great responsibility. Thanks Vasile!! -- Jorge Sanz http://www.osgeo.org http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Jorge_Sanz GPG: 86F8 3EA0 BD19 0CA2 801D 4FB2 6B45 68E4 6FB2 D89D ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[OSGeo-Discuss] Danubehack 2015
Hi all, I would like to invite you all to Danubehack [1]: Would you like to demonstrate, what can be done with Open Geo related Data and related technologies in Danube region? Are you producer or do you have an access to this kind of resources and would you like to present them and discover what else can be built on top of it? If you would like to find out more about this topic or support such activities? If so, register for DanubeHack - First Open (Geo) Data hackathon in Bratislava, Slovakia by the 25th of September 2015. Jachym [1] http://www.danubehack.eu/? ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss