Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo guidelines for code hosting ?

> On 18 Oct 2015, at 12:34, Angelos Tzotsos wrote: > > It is true that GitHub is not Free Software, so IMO we should not be > depending on it. I see the ethical issues that arise from using a non Free > provider and it is not the only case in our ecosystem eg. Transifex

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo guidelines for code hosting ?

One thing to consider in using GitHub is the opportunity for the project to be discovered by people who are not aware of OSGEO and the geo space. David. On Sun, Oct 18, 2015 at 2:37 PM, Andreas Hocevar wrote: > > > On 18 Oct 2015, at 12:34, Angelos Tzotsos

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] [OSGeo-Standards] sponsoring / relevance / standard

Hi Henrique, Cameron has raised a very good point: we in the OGC need some interest from our members to start movement on a new standard. Perhaps you would be willing to brief OGC membership on your ideas and/or identify some “champions” inside the OGC who might start discussing the topic? If

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo guidelines for code hosting ?

That repo-criteria articles is a great read - thanks! One key advantage OSGeo has as a foundation is we are not "picky" about where projects work from. This allows our projects to be more responsive then similar foundations such as Apache and Eclipse. It should be noted that these organizations

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] parcel data in US

One for-fee source is http://courthouseusa.com/ “Nearly 100 million property records with parcel boundaries in one standard format.” --- Raj Singh r...@rajsingh.org (617) 642-9372 http://www.rajsingh.org/ > On Oct 17, 2015, at 5:19 AM, Anca Brisan

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] parcel data in US

And another I had bookmarked a while ago: http://www.boundarysolutions.com/BSI/page1.php -Steve On 10/18/2015 7:57 PM, Raj R Singh wrote: One for-fee source is http://courthouseusa.com/ “Nearly 100 million property records with parcel boundaries in one standard format.” --- Raj Singh

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo guidelines for code hosting ?

On Sun, Oct 18, 2015 at 12:08 PM, Sandro Santilli wrote: > How does that diagram counts contributors ? > > With SVN it's very unlikely that a bot can recognize contributors > other than the committers, while with GIT it's easier to make the > actual contributor visible to a

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] [OSGeo-Standards] sponsoring / relevance / standard

Hi Henrique, It sounds like you are looking to build a ground swell of usage of a spatial encoding system. This is a difficult task, and not something that OSGeo or OGC processes are set up for. First there needs to be a number of users all calling out for this standard, then OGC will help

[OSGeo-Discuss] sponsoring / relevance / standard

Hello Jeff, I'm deeply grateful that I've been invited to propose to this discussion forum the possibility to let the Munich Orientation Convention be an OSGeo standard. So Burundian authorities could discover and prove the benefits of the system. They have already effectuated the

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo guidelines for code hosting ?

On Sat, Oct 17, 2015 at 10:22:10PM +0200, Mateusz Loskot wrote: > Once Sandro has completed setting up git.osgeo.org infrastructure, who > is going to maintain it? Just a note: I'm not going to setup git.osgeo.org infrastructure against the will of OSGeo board. So far all I'm doing is

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo guidelines for code hosting ?

On Sun, Oct 18, 2015 at 08:41:12AM +0200, Andrea Aime wrote: > In particular, looking at GeoServer experience from the switch, it's rather > evident we got more people contributing right the moment we did the > switch, here is the contributors per month diagram, the red line > is the date we

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo guidelines for code hosting ?

Hi, just wanted to chime in saying that if OSGeo starts setting said guidelines, it should also have some benefits comparison so that projects can see what they might not get by avoiding Github. In particular, looking at GeoServer experience from the switch, it's rather evident we got more people

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo guidelines for code hosting ?

A lot of what instigated this conversation is what PostGIS should do? stick with SVN/Trac, get rid of SVN and just move everything to GitHub, or have an OSGeo GIT and a GitHub mirror and still keep trac. I don't think it makes sense for us to completely ditch github, but then I also think

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo guidelines for code hosting ?

Very well said Andrea, and I can back this up with very similar experiences from when the OpenLayers project moved to Github. That said, if OSGeo considers setting up a Git infrastructure, please keep an alternative in mind: pay for an OSGeo Github account for projects that want to use Git.

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo thoughts on discussion/collaboration platform hosting

On Sun, Oct 18, 2015 at 03:28:30PM +0200, Mateusz Loskot wrote: > communication channels like Gitter. I see, people may prefer chats like that. > By the way https://gitter.im/OSGeo. People that don't mind having a GitHub account and using proprietary software to communicate.

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo thoughts on discussion/collaboration platform hosting

Hi Mike, I agree this is a good discussion. By the way, Tim Sutton just pointed me to a decision making platform that QGIS is now using, I think it would be great to have an OSGeo instance (see below): On 2015-10-17 6:53 PM, Tim Sutton wrote: > > did you consider using something like

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] [EXTERNAL] Re: OSGeo thoughts on discussion/collaboration platform hosting

Jeff, Yes, I could see something like loomio being very helpful. I don't know if we would want both loomio and something slack-like but we might. It would be fantastic for board meetings. I would definitely be in support of something like this or slack or something being hosted by OSGeo. Mike

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo guidelines for code hosting ?

On Sun, Oct 18, 2015 at 09:07:52AM +0200, Andreas Hocevar wrote: > please keep an alternative in mind: pay for an OSGeo Github account for > projects that want to use Git. Will burn some money, but won't burn out > volunteers who have to keep OSGeo's own infrastructure up and running. See >

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo guidelines for code hosting ?

I very much like the idea of paying SAC administrators for all the great work they do. And setting up an OSGeo git infrastructure (git+trac, gitlab, or ???) is right in line with our mission statement of our foundation. I'm enjoying where this discussion is going. I don't think we have settled

[OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo thoughts on discussion/collaboration platform hosting

Along the lines of code hosting, do we want to think about some kind of OSGeo hosted Slack-like service for the community / projects, eg MatterMost, RocketChat, etc? I wanted to start this as a separate topic although a lot of these alternatives are based on git or gitlab so its a very related

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo thoughts on discussion/collaboration platform hosting

On Sun, Oct 18, 2015 at 08:16:10AM -0400, Michael Smith wrote: > Along the lines of code hosting, do we want to think about some kind of > OSGeo hosted Slack-like service for the community / projects, eg > MatterMost, RocketChat, etc? > > > I wanted to start this as a separate topic although a

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] [EXTERNAL] Re: OSGeo thoughts on discussion/collaboration platform hosting

One problem that I have with IRC is being firewalled due to the ports (at work or vpn). I also find the mobile clients for the Slack-like alternatives to be much better than any IRC mobile client I've found. And just a generally higher level of functionality while still allowing IRC clients (via

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] [EXTERNAL] Re: OSGeo thoughts on discussion/collaboration platform hosting

On Sun, Oct 18, 2015 at 01:17:18PM +, Smith, Michael ERDC-RDE-CRREL-NH wrote: > One problem that I have with IRC is being firewalled due to the ports. That'd be easily solvable by having our own server running on port 80 of irc.osgeo.org. > I also find the mobile clients for the Slack-like

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo guidelines for code hosting ?

Hi Andreas, There is already an OSGeo account on GitHub, managed by SAC members: https://github.com/OSGeo This discussion started 6 months ago on IRC, during the OSGeoLive transition to Git. Since there was no git.osgeo.org setup at the time, we decided to temporarily host OSGeoLive git

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo guidelines for code hosting ?

On Sun, Oct 18, 2015 at 01:34:57PM +0300, Angelos Tzotsos wrote: > It is true that GitHub is not Free Software, so IMO we should not be > depending on it. I see the ethical issues that arise from using a > non Free provider and it is not the only case in our ecosystem eg. > Transifex used to be

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo thoughts on discussion/collaboration platform hosting

fwiw DemocracyOS [1] may be worth a look as well. [1] http://democracyos.org/ On Sun, Oct 18, 2015 at 9:34 AM, Jeff McKenna wrote: > Hi Mike, > > I agree this is a good discussion. By the way, Tim Sutton just pointed me > to a decision making platform that QGIS

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] [OSGeo-Standards] sponsoring / relevance / standard

Hi Cameron, thank you for the kind support. According to Mahatma Gandhi, the stages for innovations are: First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you. Then you win. OGC didn’t reach the second stage. >From my side, I’m open for any proposals in favor of

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo thoughts on discussion/collaboration platform hosting

On 18 October 2015 at 14:16, Michael Smith wrote: > Along the lines of code hosting, do we want to think about some kind of > OSGeo hosted Slack-like service for the community / projects, eg > MatterMost, RocketChat, etc? Personally, IRC has served me well, but

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] [Ica-osgeo-labs] Ideas/inputs for having a cloud service that runs the OSGeo-Live VM

Thanks Cameron, Angelos, Giuseppe , Peter and everyone who contributed to these discussions. I am ccing this to discuss list so that the wider community and users who want a cloud service can let their views known and how they would use and benefit from an OSGeo-Live cloud service. That way,

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo guidelines for code hosting ?

On Sat, Oct 17, 2015 at 12:10 PM, Mateusz Loskot wrote: ... > Finally, with Sandro, we brainstormed idea of surveing the Community > about their hosting needs/preferences. > Sandro, Martin, Alex, have been putting efforts into setting up Git, > improving Trac, and overall

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo guidelines for code hosting ?

On 18 October 2015 at 08:41, Andrea Aime wrote: > > In particular, looking at GeoServer experience from the switch, it's rather > evident we got more people contributing right the moment we did the > switch > [...] > There is however a downside of that, most of these