Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] EU Cyber Resilience Act - potential impacts on open geospatial software?

2023-08-08 Thread Jody Garnett via Discuss
 Dear all,

A lot of very good thoughts on this thread (and online).

I have been thinking a bit more on this. As Luís highlights while there are
steps to take to be clear with our license the result would end up not
being useful / legal in Europe (which defeats OSGeo vision of empowering
everyone with free and open source geospatial goodness).

a) The CRA treating everything as a supplier arrangement is a problem. It
is disrespectful to be treated as a supplied rather than a respected
commons (or even labour.)

If we borrow a tool from labour - what would adopting a work-to-rule
practice for Europe?

   - Delay downloads by two weeks (simulation of anticipated certification
   overhead)
   - Release source code to Europe but not the digital downloads (respect
   Free and Open Source license and provide a taste of VPN future)


Aside: I use the word disrespectful to help indicated the violation of the
social norms asserted with our community. We should be offended that after
creating so much value for Europe regulation is being setup to require more
from our community.

b) The proposed CRA certification SME to declare technology used. This
technically sets up a "dependency list" showing the open-source used by
each organization.

Could this be used in a Robbin Hood manner to direct funding where needed:

   - Use such insight to support projects that are underfunded for their
   level of importance to European Economy
   - Use tax dollars, or certification fees from industry, to scale funding
   to match use of free and open source technologies


Aside: This is what I mean about seeking economic solutions for the root
cause (underfunded open-source projects used in critical or economically
important systems).

--
Jody Garnett


On Aug 3, 2023 at 12:43:59 AM, Luí­s Moreira de Sousa via Discuss <
discuss@lists.osgeo.org> wrote:

> Dear all,
>
> hours ago, Wordpress, Joomla, Drupal and TYPO3 published an open letter on
> the CRA painting a scenario similar to the worst case I put forth here last
> week. Not only are FOSS projects threatened, thousands of European SMEs
> will either perish or move on to wholesale commercial software in the wake
> of this legislation. Essentially, we are speaking of the companies that
> contribute to fund OSGeo and sponsor the FOSS4G.
>
>
> https://wordpress.org/news/files/2023/08/Open_Letter_on_the_Significance_of_Free_and_Open_Source_Software_in_the_EU_s_Proposed_Cyber_Resilience_Act.pdf
>
> I am becoming increasingly concerned by this. I would exhort every charter
> member in Europe to get thoroughly informed and seek advice from trade
> guilds or unions and enterprise associations or federations.
>
> Regards,
>
> Luís
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[OSGeo-Discuss] Making UK a science superpower - The urgent need for ensuring the right to quality education opportunities for the 4.2 million children currently living in poverty in the UK

2023-08-08 Thread Suchith Anand via Discuss

Dear colleagues,


I am interested to learn more about the UK government's plans and slogan on 
“becoming a science superpower”.


‘Science superpower’ plan risks making UK bureaucracy superpower, says peer. 
Author of Lords report says government’s approach ‘feels like setting off on a 
marathon with your shoelaces tied together’  Details at

https://www.theguardian.com/science/2022/aug/04/science-superpower-plan-risks-making-uk-bureaucracy-superpower-says-peer


https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/wa-jisc.exe?A2=OER-DISCUSS;d28fa3cf.2308


Looks like “becoming a science superpower” is a slogan to hide the real issues 
on poverty, cost of living crisis impacting millions of families in the UK.


There is also an urgent need to expand the free school meals scheme (including 
during the school holidays) as part of reform of education.


Best wishes


Suchith




From: Suchith Anand
Sent: 28 July 2023 11:09
Subject: Making UK a science superpower by 2030 - The urgent need for ensuring 
the right to quality education opportunities for the 4.2 million children 
currently living in poverty in the UK

Dear colleagues,


I came across this article published in the University World News on 22nd July 
2023 which looks at the toxic corporate culture and a crisis of leadership in 
UK higher education.


Details at 
https://www.universityworldnews.com/post-mobile.php?story=20230721132953122


I request the UK Government  to investigate the current state of affairs of the 
UK Higher Education sector with the aim to end corrupt practices and reform UK 
Higher Education. Thank you.


Best wishes


Suchith





From: Suchith Anand

Sent: 23 July 2023 08:45

Subject: Making UK a science superpower by 2030 - The urgent need for ensuring 
the right to quality education opportunities for the 4.2 million children 
currently living in poverty in the UK




Dear colleagues,


There were 4.2 million children living in poverty in the UK in 2021-22. That's 
29 per cent of children (This percentage might be higher now due to cost of 
living crisis in the UK ). Details at. 
https://cpag.org.uk/child-poverty/child-poverty-facts-and-figures


Extreme child poverty in the UK is a humanitarian and ethical crisis. In 
educational terms, poverty is a significant disadvantage. The link between 
poverty and poor educational outcomes and wellbeing in the UK has remained 
stubbornly and depressingly high despite longstanding policy concern at 
national, local and jurisdictional levels of government.


Child poverty, education and the postcode lottery

https://www.transformingsociety.co.uk/2020/08/19/child-poverty-education-and-the-postcode-lottery/


The UK Government has announced a  plan to  cement the UK’s place as a science 
and technology superpower by 2030. This is very welcome initiative. I humbly 
request that the UK government to share a clear action plan for ensuring the 
right to  quality education opportunities for the 4.2 million children 
currently living in poverty in the UK. This is key for making UK a science 
superpower by 2030.


Access to quality education opportunities is a human right. There needs to be 
focused policies at the UK Government level about equitable education with a 
binding on Universities and the Higher Education Institutes to comply.


Universities have a social responsibility. There is an urgent need to provide 
full scholarships (with maintenance grant) for 30 percent of seats in each 
Russell Group university (the richest and prestigious universities in the UK) 
for students from economically poor families and first-generation students 
(first in family to go to university). I request the kind support of all MPs, 
all major UK Political parties and UK Government for the Right to Quality 
Education opportunities for All .


May I please request you to kindly support the “Right to Quality Education 
opportunities for All”


Details at 
https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/open-letter-requesting-uk-government-reform-higher-education-anand



Let us all work together so that we can ensure the right to quality education 
opportunities for the 4.2 million children currently living in poverty in the 
UK. This is important for the better future of our country and our future 
generations.


Best wishes


Suchith



From: Suchith Anand

Sent: 21 July 2023 11:29

Subject: Information needed on good practice examples of summary statistics of 
scholarship information in UK universities



Dear colleagues


I am grateful to all colleagues who have emailed support and shared lot of 
excellent ideas and suggestions for expanding scholarships for first generation 
students (first in family to go to university) and students from economically 
poor families. I am touched by your kindness.


I have a query and appreciate your advice. Are there any good practice examples 
of summary statistics information on monitoring and measuring progress of 
scholarships in any UK universities? Which