Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Board Proposal: Statement of OSGeo Legal Support

2007-10-30 Thread Bruce . Bannerman
IMO


Good call Cameron.


In this day and age it would pay to be proactive on these types of issues.


It's been a while since I last looked at this.

>From memory, a number of large companies have pledged resources to help 
defend FOSS. I'm not sure where this is at currently. 

I think that its with the Linux Foundation - 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Linux_Foundation (formed in 2007 from The 
Open Source Development Labs and the Free Standards Group).

You may also want to look at the Software Freedom Law Centre founded by 
Eben Moglen. I understand that they provide pro-bono legal services to 
protect and advance Free and Open Source Software:

http://www.softwarefreedom.org/technology/



Bruce
 





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Good processes + no money is an acceptable strategy so long as we have 
consciously made this decision and everyone is aware of the strategy.

Allan Doyle wrote:
>
> On Oct 30, 2007, at 15:09 , Michael P. Gerlek wrote:
>
>> Way back on that cold day in Chicago, I'm not sure anyone ever really
>> thought about what it would mean when we said we'd "offer legal
>> protection".
>>
>> Does it imply/lead-to/entail some sort of indemnification?  Ouch, that
>> would be pricey...  How does the Apache gang, et al, handle this?
>
> My recollection is that the Apache gang carefully keeps their coffers 
> empty and makes sure the code all legally belongs to the Apache 
> Foundation. Thus there's not enough of a pot of gold to win in a suit.
>
> However, I'm guessing that this strategy depends on a pretty 
> well-defined process to ensure there are no loopholes.
>
> Allan
>
>>
>>
>> -mpg
>>
>>
>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Landon Blake
>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 7:56 AM
>>> To: OSGeo Discussions
>>> Subject: RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] Board Proposal: Statement of
>>> OSGeo Legal Support
>>>
>>> Cameron,
>>>
>>> I think this is an excellent idea, and a lawyer should definitely be
>>> consulted. I wonder if the legal staff at the Software Freedom
>>> Conservancy could assist.
>>>
>>> Landon
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cameron Shorter
>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 3:56 AM
>>> To: OSGeo-Board
>>> Cc: OSGeo Discussions; Adrian Custer
>>> Subject: [OSGeo-Discuss] Board Proposal: Statement of OSGeo Legal
>>> Support
>>>
>>> OSGeo Board, (CC to OSGeo Discuss),
>>>
>>> During the founding of OSGeo, it was often noted that OSGeo projects
>>> would benefit from OSGeo legal protection. Now, as Geotools wrestles
>>> with graduation criteria and how to handle license assignment, the
>>> nature and level of legal protection offered by OSGeo is
>>> unclear. Also
>>> unclear is the level of legal review available (as tested by Geotools
>>> crafting of a Copywrite Assignment document).
>>> Consequently, geotools is having difficulty deciding whether
>>> it is wise
>>> to assign copywrite to OSGeo.
>>>
>>> I suspect a large part of the problem is that board members (like
>>> myself) are not lawyers and don't have a clear understanding of the
>>> options, the value of each of the options to OSGeo and the
>>> projects (how
>>> much protection is given), and the cost both in time and financially.
>>> Key questions to answer for each option are:
>>> * What level of support is given to contributors and license reviewers
>>> (individuals and companies)
>>> * What level of support is given to OSGeo users?
>>> * What level of support is given to projects? Will OSGeo
>>> fight a license
>>> infringer on behalf of a project?
>>> * What level of support is given to the OSGeo Foundation?
>>>
>>> *Proposal*
>>> That the board makes a clear statement on their website about
>>> nature and
>>> level of support offered by OSGeo to OSGeo projects and Individuals.
>>> This statement needs to be backed up with a budget item addressing
>>> financial implications related to the statement.
>>>
>>> Implementation:
>>> I suggest the steps to achieve the above would be:
>>> 1. Board approves budget to have a lawyer, or volunteer with legal
>>> review, to draw up a list of options and their financial
>>> implications.
>>> Adrian Custer's review provides an excellent basis for a
>>> lawyer to start
>>>
>>> from. http://docs.codehaus.org/display/GEOTOOLS/Geotools+Legal+Review
>>> 2. Board votes to select best option.
>>> 3. OSGeo financial sponsors are given opportunity to contribute to
>>> decision.
>>> 4. OSGeo budgets for decision
>>> 5. OSGeo records the legal stance publicly (on a webpage).
>>>
>>> -- 
>>> Cameron Shorter
>>> Geospatial Systems Architect
>>> Tel: +61 (0)2 8570 5050
>>> Mob: +61 (0)419 142 254
>>>
>>> Think Globally, Fix Locally
>>> Commercial Support 

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Board Proposal: Statement of OSGeo Legal Support

2007-10-30 Thread Cameron Shorter
Good processes + no money is an acceptable strategy so long as we have 
consciously made this decision and everyone is aware of the strategy.


Allan Doyle wrote:


On Oct 30, 2007, at 15:09 , Michael P. Gerlek wrote:


Way back on that cold day in Chicago, I'm not sure anyone ever really
thought about what it would mean when we said we'd "offer legal
protection".

Does it imply/lead-to/entail some sort of indemnification?  Ouch, that
would be pricey...  How does the Apache gang, et al, handle this?


My recollection is that the Apache gang carefully keeps their coffers 
empty and makes sure the code all legally belongs to the Apache 
Foundation. Thus there's not enough of a pot of gold to win in a suit.


However, I'm guessing that this strategy depends on a pretty 
well-defined process to ensure there are no loopholes.


Allan




-mpg




-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Landon Blake
Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 7:56 AM
To: OSGeo Discussions
Subject: RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] Board Proposal: Statement of
OSGeo Legal Support

Cameron,

I think this is an excellent idea, and a lawyer should definitely be
consulted. I wonder if the legal staff at the Software Freedom
Conservancy could assist.

Landon

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cameron Shorter
Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 3:56 AM
To: OSGeo-Board
Cc: OSGeo Discussions; Adrian Custer
Subject: [OSGeo-Discuss] Board Proposal: Statement of OSGeo Legal
Support

OSGeo Board, (CC to OSGeo Discuss),

During the founding of OSGeo, it was often noted that OSGeo projects
would benefit from OSGeo legal protection. Now, as Geotools wrestles
with graduation criteria and how to handle license assignment, the
nature and level of legal protection offered by OSGeo is
unclear. Also
unclear is the level of legal review available (as tested by Geotools
crafting of a Copywrite Assignment document).
Consequently, geotools is having difficulty deciding whether
it is wise
to assign copywrite to OSGeo.

I suspect a large part of the problem is that board members (like
myself) are not lawyers and don't have a clear understanding of the
options, the value of each of the options to OSGeo and the
projects (how
much protection is given), and the cost both in time and financially.
Key questions to answer for each option are:
* What level of support is given to contributors and license reviewers
(individuals and companies)
* What level of support is given to OSGeo users?
* What level of support is given to projects? Will OSGeo
fight a license
infringer on behalf of a project?
* What level of support is given to the OSGeo Foundation?

*Proposal*
That the board makes a clear statement on their website about
nature and
level of support offered by OSGeo to OSGeo projects and Individuals.
This statement needs to be backed up with a budget item addressing
financial implications related to the statement.

Implementation:
I suggest the steps to achieve the above would be:
1. Board approves budget to have a lawyer, or volunteer with legal
review, to draw up a list of options and their financial
implications.
Adrian Custer's review provides an excellent basis for a
lawyer to start

from. http://docs.codehaus.org/display/GEOTOOLS/Geotools+Legal+Review
2. Board votes to select best option.
3. OSGeo financial sponsors are given opportunity to contribute to
decision.
4. OSGeo budgets for decision
5. OSGeo records the legal stance publicly (on a webpage).

--
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Geospatial Systems Architect
Tel: +61 (0)2 8570 5050
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Board Proposal: Statement of OSGeo Legal Support

2007-10-30 Thread Allan Doyle


On Oct 30, 2007, at 15:09 , Michael P. Gerlek wrote:


Way back on that cold day in Chicago, I'm not sure anyone ever really
thought about what it would mean when we said we'd "offer legal
protection".

Does it imply/lead-to/entail some sort of indemnification?  Ouch, that
would be pricey...  How does the Apache gang, et al, handle this?


My recollection is that the Apache gang carefully keeps their coffers  
empty and makes sure the code all legally belongs to the Apache  
Foundation. Thus there's not enough of a pot of gold to win in a suit.


However, I'm guessing that this strategy depends on a pretty well- 
defined process to ensure there are no loopholes.


Allan




-mpg




-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Landon Blake
Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 7:56 AM
To: OSGeo Discussions
Subject: RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] Board Proposal: Statement of
OSGeo Legal Support

Cameron,

I think this is an excellent idea, and a lawyer should definitely be
consulted. I wonder if the legal staff at the Software Freedom
Conservancy could assist.

Landon

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cameron Shorter
Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 3:56 AM
To: OSGeo-Board
Cc: OSGeo Discussions; Adrian Custer
Subject: [OSGeo-Discuss] Board Proposal: Statement of OSGeo Legal
Support

OSGeo Board, (CC to OSGeo Discuss),

During the founding of OSGeo, it was often noted that OSGeo projects
would benefit from OSGeo legal protection. Now, as Geotools wrestles
with graduation criteria and how to handle license assignment, the
nature and level of legal protection offered by OSGeo is
unclear. Also
unclear is the level of legal review available (as tested by Geotools
crafting of a Copywrite Assignment document).
Consequently, geotools is having difficulty deciding whether
it is wise
to assign copywrite to OSGeo.

I suspect a large part of the problem is that board members (like
myself) are not lawyers and don't have a clear understanding of the
options, the value of each of the options to OSGeo and the
projects (how
much protection is given), and the cost both in time and financially.
Key questions to answer for each option are:
* What level of support is given to contributors and license  
reviewers

(individuals and companies)
* What level of support is given to OSGeo users?
* What level of support is given to projects? Will OSGeo
fight a license
infringer on behalf of a project?
* What level of support is given to the OSGeo Foundation?

*Proposal*
That the board makes a clear statement on their website about
nature and
level of support offered by OSGeo to OSGeo projects and Individuals.
This statement needs to be backed up with a budget item addressing
financial implications related to the statement.

Implementation:
I suggest the steps to achieve the above would be:
1. Board approves budget to have a lawyer, or volunteer with legal
review, to draw up a list of options and their financial
implications.
Adrian Custer's review provides an excellent basis for a
lawyer to start

from. http://docs.codehaus.org/display/GEOTOOLS/Geotools+Legal+Review
2. Board votes to select best option.
3. OSGeo financial sponsors are given opportunity to contribute to
decision.
4. OSGeo budgets for decision
5. OSGeo records the legal stance publicly (on a webpage).

--
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Geospatial Systems Architect
Tel: +61 (0)2 8570 5050
Mob: +61 (0)419 142 254

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RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] Board Proposal: Statement of OSGeo Legal Support

2007-10-30 Thread Michael P. Gerlek
Way back on that cold day in Chicago, I'm not sure anyone ever really
thought about what it would mean when we said we'd "offer legal
protection".

Does it imply/lead-to/entail some sort of indemnification?  Ouch, that
would be pricey...  How does the Apache gang, et al, handle this?

-mpg

 

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Landon Blake
> Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 7:56 AM
> To: OSGeo Discussions
> Subject: RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] Board Proposal: Statement of 
> OSGeo Legal Support
> 
> Cameron,
> 
> I think this is an excellent idea, and a lawyer should definitely be
> consulted. I wonder if the legal staff at the Software Freedom
> Conservancy could assist.
> 
> Landon
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cameron Shorter
> Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 3:56 AM
> To: OSGeo-Board
> Cc: OSGeo Discussions; Adrian Custer
> Subject: [OSGeo-Discuss] Board Proposal: Statement of OSGeo Legal
> Support
> 
> OSGeo Board, (CC to OSGeo Discuss),
> 
> During the founding of OSGeo, it was often noted that OSGeo projects
> would benefit from OSGeo legal protection. Now, as Geotools wrestles
> with graduation criteria and how to handle license assignment, the
> nature and level of legal protection offered by OSGeo is 
> unclear. Also 
> unclear is the level of legal review available (as tested by Geotools 
> crafting of a Copywrite Assignment document).
> Consequently, geotools is having difficulty deciding whether 
> it is wise
> to assign copywrite to OSGeo.
> 
> I suspect a large part of the problem is that board members (like
> myself) are not lawyers and don't have a clear understanding of the
> options, the value of each of the options to OSGeo and the 
> projects (how
> much protection is given), and the cost both in time and financially.
> Key questions to answer for each option are:
> * What level of support is given to contributors and license reviewers
> (individuals and companies)
> * What level of support is given to OSGeo users?
> * What level of support is given to projects? Will OSGeo 
> fight a license
> infringer on behalf of a project?
> * What level of support is given to the OSGeo Foundation?
> 
> *Proposal*
> That the board makes a clear statement on their website about 
> nature and
> level of support offered by OSGeo to OSGeo projects and Individuals.
> This statement needs to be backed up with a budget item addressing
> financial implications related to the statement.
> 
> Implementation:
> I suggest the steps to achieve the above would be:
> 1. Board approves budget to have a lawyer, or volunteer with legal
> review, to draw up a list of options and their financial 
> implications. 
> Adrian Custer's review provides an excellent basis for a 
> lawyer to start
> 
> from. http://docs.codehaus.org/display/GEOTOOLS/Geotools+Legal+Review
> 2. Board votes to select best option.
> 3. OSGeo financial sponsors are given opportunity to contribute to 
> decision.
> 4. OSGeo budgets for decision
> 5. OSGeo records the legal stance publicly (on a webpage).
> 
> -- 
> Cameron Shorter
> Geospatial Systems Architect
> Tel: +61 (0)2 8570 5050
> Mob: +61 (0)419 142 254
> 
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> Commercial Support for Geospatial Open Source Software
> http://www.lisasoft.com/LISAsoft/SupportedProducts.html
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RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] Board Proposal: Statement of OSGeo Legal Support

2007-10-30 Thread Landon Blake
Cameron,

I think this is an excellent idea, and a lawyer should definitely be
consulted. I wonder if the legal staff at the Software Freedom
Conservancy could assist.

Landon

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cameron Shorter
Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 3:56 AM
To: OSGeo-Board
Cc: OSGeo Discussions; Adrian Custer
Subject: [OSGeo-Discuss] Board Proposal: Statement of OSGeo Legal
Support

OSGeo Board, (CC to OSGeo Discuss),

During the founding of OSGeo, it was often noted that OSGeo projects
would benefit from OSGeo legal protection. Now, as Geotools wrestles
with graduation criteria and how to handle license assignment, the
nature and level of legal protection offered by OSGeo is unclear. Also 
unclear is the level of legal review available (as tested by Geotools 
crafting of a Copywrite Assignment document).
Consequently, geotools is having difficulty deciding whether it is wise
to assign copywrite to OSGeo.

I suspect a large part of the problem is that board members (like
myself) are not lawyers and don't have a clear understanding of the
options, the value of each of the options to OSGeo and the projects (how
much protection is given), and the cost both in time and financially.
Key questions to answer for each option are:
* What level of support is given to contributors and license reviewers
(individuals and companies)
* What level of support is given to OSGeo users?
* What level of support is given to projects? Will OSGeo fight a license
infringer on behalf of a project?
* What level of support is given to the OSGeo Foundation?

*Proposal*
That the board makes a clear statement on their website about nature and
level of support offered by OSGeo to OSGeo projects and Individuals.
This statement needs to be backed up with a budget item addressing
financial implications related to the statement.

Implementation:
I suggest the steps to achieve the above would be:
1. Board approves budget to have a lawyer, or volunteer with legal
review, to draw up a list of options and their financial implications. 
Adrian Custer's review provides an excellent basis for a lawyer to start

from. http://docs.codehaus.org/display/GEOTOOLS/Geotools+Legal+Review
2. Board votes to select best option.
3. OSGeo financial sponsors are given opportunity to contribute to 
decision.
4. OSGeo budgets for decision
5. OSGeo records the legal stance publicly (on a webpage).

-- 
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Geospatial Systems Architect
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Association of American Geographers (AAG) Annual Meeting

2007-10-30 Thread Helena Mitasova
I am planning to attend and I will be willing to chair a session - I  
planned to submit an abstract today
please let me know if we have enough people for the session so that I  
can adjust the abstract accordingly.

I can also help with the booth.

Helena

Helena Mitasova
Dept. of Marine, Earth and Atm. Sciences
1125 Jordan Hall, NCSU Box 8208,
Raleigh NC 27695
http://skagit.meas.ncsu.edu/~helena/



On Oct 30, 2007, at 2:59 AM, Alex Mandel wrote:

I'm putting the finishing touches on my abstract right now and was  
thinking about this topic again.


I think there's plenty of time to still organize a session as long  
as we know of at least 4 papers to include in the session and  
someone wants to volunteer to chair the session. All we need to do  
is email Oscar Larson at [EMAIL PROTECTED] What he'll probably tell  
us to do is make sure that everyone who is part of the session(s)  
puts something like "Open Source  Geospatial" in their keywords so  
it's easy to pick out and if we can pull together all the authors  
on our end and give them a list it probably wouldn't hurt.


The key is to make sure we get abstracts in. Note, you can still  
make minor edits to your abstract after submission but the deadline  
is this Wednesday, Oct 31.


On other conference planning items I suggest that someone who is  
authorized to speak for OSGeo contact Oscar Larson and sign us up  
for a booth. I'll be there to table and hopefully will bring some  
other new converts to FOSS with me from my university.


What do you guys think about trying to organize a workshop on  
something like: Introduction to QGIS, or Introduction to GIS using  
QGIS(How to teach an intro course in GIS with QGIS) based on some  
of the course materials being uploaded by various members?



Alex Mandel

Helena Mitasova wrote:

Allan,
I am planning to submit a paper (and I will check with others in  
the growing OSGeo community here in Triangle who may be planning  
to go too) - I think an organized session (or two) would be great  
if there is still time to propose it and I can certainly help with  
the booth.
Also I am wondering about getting some of the Google SOC students  
there -
those who did not get a chance to be in Victoria - maybe Google  
could support their travel?
We had two very nice projects that would fit very well with this  
conference.

Helena
Helena Mitasova
Dept. of Marine, Earth and Atm. Sciences
1125 Jordan Hall, NCSU Box 8208,
Raleigh NC 27695
http://skagit.meas.ncsu.edu/~helena/
On Oct 17, 2007, at 2:57 PM, Allan Doyle wrote:
Chris Schmidt is starting up OSGeo Boston, and this would be a  
great project for us to do. We're having our first meeting  
tonight, we can put it on the agenda!


Allan

On Oct 17, 2007, at 13:30 , Alex Mandel wrote:

I think this is a great opportunity for OSGeo to reach a wider  
audience of general users.


As and organization I think we should consider having a 'vendor'  
booth in the exhibit hall, running a workshop, and maybe an  
organized session.

I'll volunteer to help with whatever we pick to do.

The meeting is April 15-19 2008 in Boston, but paper submission  
are due by the end of this month. Note, they make you pay for  
the conference before you submit because you are guaranteed to  
talk(as far as I can tell).


Alex

--
Call for Papers
2008 Annual Meeting of the AAG

The AAG Annual Meeting accepts all submitted abstracts for  
presentation.  If you have any questions about these guidelines  
please direct them to Oscar Larson at [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Abstracts must be submitted online at www.aag.org/annualmeeting  
between August 1, 2007, and October 31, 2007.


* Presentations
* Abstracts
* Organized Sessions
* Program Committee Organized Sessions
* Requirements for Participation
* Enrichment Funds
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] How do you create .mgp files?

2007-10-30 Thread Venkatesh Raghavan

Perhaps you could find your answer at
http://www.jasonbirch.com/nodes/2006/04/09/15/mapguide-open-source-package-utilities/

Or maybe direct your question pto the
mapguide-users mailing list below

http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/mapguide-users

Venka

Ayush wrote:

hi,

i'm a newbie and have just started to work with map
servers. I was trying to develop a web page using the
map server. I have some shape files and some layers
edited ArcGIS and i was trying to use the same in my
page using Map Studio. It seems that the studio only
detects the .mgp formats. I tried to, but couldn't,
create one for myself. So could anyone please help me
out with it? (i checked out the docs too + the dev
guide but there's nothing mentioned bout the mgp
files/packages)

Thank you,
Ayush


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[OSGeo-Discuss] How do you create .mgp files?

2007-10-30 Thread Ayush
hi,

i'm a newbie and have just started to work with map
servers. I was trying to develop a web page using the
map server. I have some shape files and some layers
edited ArcGIS and i was trying to use the same in my
page using Map Studio. It seems that the studio only
detects the .mgp formats. I tried to, but couldn't,
create one for myself. So could anyone please help me
out with it? (i checked out the docs too + the dev
guide but there's nothing mentioned bout the mgp
files/packages)

Thank you,
Ayush


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[OSGeo-Discuss] Board Proposal: Statement of OSGeo Legal Support

2007-10-30 Thread Cameron Shorter

OSGeo Board, (CC to OSGeo Discuss),

During the founding of OSGeo, it was often noted that OSGeo projects
would benefit from OSGeo legal protection. Now, as Geotools wrestles
with graduation criteria and how to handle license assignment, the
nature and level of legal protection offered by OSGeo is unclear. Also 
unclear is the level of legal review available (as tested by Geotools 
crafting of a Copywrite Assignment document).

Consequently, geotools is having difficulty deciding whether it is wise
to assign copywrite to OSGeo.

I suspect a large part of the problem is that board members (like
myself) are not lawyers and don't have a clear understanding of the
options, the value of each of the options to OSGeo and the projects (how
much protection is given), and the cost both in time and financially.
Key questions to answer for each option are:
* What level of support is given to contributors and license reviewers
(individuals and companies)
* What level of support is given to OSGeo users?
* What level of support is given to projects? Will OSGeo fight a license
infringer on behalf of a project?
* What level of support is given to the OSGeo Foundation?

*Proposal*
That the board makes a clear statement on their website about nature and
level of support offered by OSGeo to OSGeo projects and Individuals.
This statement needs to be backed up with a budget item addressing
financial implications related to the statement.

Implementation:
I suggest the steps to achieve the above would be:
1. Board approves budget to have a lawyer, or volunteer with legal
review, to draw up a list of options and their financial implications. 
Adrian Custer's review provides an excellent basis for a lawyer to start 
from. http://docs.codehaus.org/display/GEOTOOLS/Geotools+Legal+Review

2. Board votes to select best option.
3. OSGeo financial sponsors are given opportunity to contribute to 
decision.

4. OSGeo budgets for decision
5. OSGeo records the legal stance publicly (on a webpage).

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Geospatial Systems Architect
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] packaging FOSS GIS for Ubuntu in education

2007-10-30 Thread Venkatesh Raghavan

Dear All,

Venkatesh Raghavan wrote:
...

We are now testing and re-building RPM for
Mandriva 2008. I will put all info about this
on wiki and inform on this list.


I have created a wiki page below with info about
Mandriva 2008 RPM packages.

http://wiki.osgeo.org/index.php/FOSS4G_Toolkit_for_Mandriva_2008

Kind regards

Venka
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