[OSGeo-Discuss] Who's in incubation, who has graduated?
I think this topic has been discussed before. On the OSGeo home page there's the list of OSGeo projects, but no indication of which projects have finished the incubation and are OSGeo certified. To find out, you have to make your way to the Incubation Committee wiki page, and there is the only list (I could find) of which projects have graduated. Furthermore on that page it says: The following status and provenance documents are for historical purposes, and are no longer actively maintained which *might* be misconstrued to mean that those projects are no longer considered part of OSGeo. Why not give some clear visual indication (font color, etc) on the main OSGeo web page of which projects have finished, giving them the credit they deserve? Cheers, Micha -- Micha Silver Arava Development Co +972-8-6592270 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] Case studies for migrating to Geospatial FOSS?
Hello Cameron, In Spain there are several case studies. Valencian Regional Ministry of Infrastructure and Transport is under a project of migrating all systems to open-source software[1]. As a matter of fact, that was the reason to build gvSIG[2]. All geospatial infrastructure (previously with ESRI) has been moved to open source (gvSIG, PostGIS, MapServer, deegree, geoNetwork opensource).[2] Hydrographic Confederation of Guadalquivir river (Spain). A migration of a big part of ESRI components to open-source has been made, with use of gvSIG, Geonetwork opensource, MapServer, GeoServer, deegree [3] [1] http://www.gvsig.gva.es/index.php?id=gvpontisL=2 [2] http://www.gvsig.gva.es/index.php?id=gvsig0L=2 [3] http://www.orzancongres.com/administracion/upload/imgPrograma/N-004.pdf Sorry [3] is in Spanish. I can provide more if you need. Regards - Miguel Montesinos Director Técnico PRODEVELOP C/ Conde Salvatierra, 34 - 10 46004 Valencia. Spain e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.prodevelop.es Tlf: +34 963510612 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of andrea giacomelli Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 9:10 AM To: OSGeo Discussions Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Case studies for migrating to Geospatial FOSS? Hi, not sure about the time zones involved in Gary replying...I think he is referring to: http://www.epa.gov/waterscience/basins/fs-basins4.html Gary, please correct me if I am wrong ;) Regards, Andrea, aka pibinko http://pibinko.altervista.org 2008/1/29, Cameron Shorter [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Yes Gary, that would be great. Do you know where we can find information about this? On Jan 29, 2008 2:07 PM, Gary Watry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Would the U.S. EPA moving from ESRI to Open Source for their Watershed model help - Original Message - From: Cameron Shorter Date: Monday, January 28, 2008 21:39 Subject: [OSGeo-Discuss] Case studies for migrating to Geospatial FOSS? To: OSGeo Discussions After giving a presentation recently about Geospatial Open Source, weBR were asked whether there have been any case studies on migration to Geospatial Open Source. The audience were very sympathetic to Open Source, but felt is would be much easier to sell to upper management if they could draw upon experiences of other agencies who have done something similar. Can anyone point me to reports, or programs which have migrated from ESRI/Oracle applications (ArcGIS in particular) to Open Source equivalents? -- Cameron Shorter Geospatial Systems Architect Tel: +61 (0)2 8570 5050 Mob: +61 (0)419 142 254 Think Globally, Fix Locally Commercial Support for Geospatial Open Source Solutions http://www.lisasoft.com/LISAsoft/SupportedProducts.html ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss Gary Watry Applications Developer/Designer Florida State University Office of Telecommunications 644 West Call Street Tallahassee, Fl 32306 Phone: 645-6904 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss -- Cameron Shorter Geospatial Systems Architect Tel: +61 (0)2 8570 5050 Mob: +61 (0)419 142 254 Think Globally, Fix Locally Commercial Support for Geospatial Open Source Solutions http://www.lisasoft.com/LISAsoft/SupportedProducts.html ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo Jobs Board
thanks to Frank, it is possible to register to the mailing list: http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/jobs Landon, Michael and me will moderate any massage posted to that list. Mateusz, if you want to step in, you're welcome. I can add you as moderator. if/when the list will take place we will send a post on osgeo.org news. then maybe further promotion. don't be shy, subscribe and post your requests ciao Lorenzo Landon Blake wrote: I have modified the Jobs Board page on the OSGeo wiki page created by Frank Wammerdam to serve as our OSGeo Jobs Board. [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Landon *Warning: *Information provided via electronic media is not guaranteed against defects including translation and transmission errors. If the reader is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this information in error, please notify the sender immediately. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org Thank ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Who's in incubation, who has graduated?
On Tue, January 29, 2008 10:54, Micha Silver wrote: I think this topic has been discussed before. Indeed, it has a history of being ignored, thanks for bringing it up again. Now that some major projects are moving we might also get more backing. Marketing has ordered a Logo for graduated projects that should come soon. It is a starting point. On the OSGeo home page there's the list of OSGeo projects, but no indication of which projects have finished the incubation and are OSGeo certified. To find out, you have to make your way to the Incubation Committee wiki page, and there is the only list (I could find) of which projects have graduated. We would like to highlight this information better on the main portal page but could not propose a good way on how to do this. Any idea? Furthermore on that page it says: The following status and provenance documents are for historical purposes, and are no longer actively maintained which *might* be misconstrued to mean that those projects are no longer considered part of OSGeo. Another issue that I have brought up long ago but which was also never followed up on. The only process in place now is a report by the PSC that is due ... whenever someone feels like it. Some of the issues dealt with in the incubation documents are to put good processes in place so that you will (hopefully) never have to bother about copyright and licenses anymore but things like the community, governance and general activity should be monitored in some way. Why not give some clear visual indication (font color, etc) on the main OSGeo web page of which projects have finished, giving them the credit they deserve? Yes, sure. We should really have done that much earlier. Cheers, Arnulf. Cheers, Micha -- Micha Silver Arava Development Co +972-8-6592270 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss -- Arnulf Christl http://www.wheregroup.com ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Case studies for migrating to Geospatial FOSS?
Contact Dr. Dan Ames at Idaho State University [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Cameron Shorter Date: Monday, January 28, 2008 22:11 Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Case studies for migrating to Geospatial FOSS? To: OSGeo Discussions Yes Gary, that would be great.BR Do you know where we can find information about this? On Jan 29, 2008 2:07 PM, Gary Watry wrote: Would the U.S. EPA moving from ESRI to Open Source for their Watershed model help - Original Message - From: Cameron Shorter Date: Monday, January 28, 2008 21:39 Subject: [OSGeo-Discuss] Case studies for migrating to Geospatial FOSS? To: OSGeo Discussions After giving a presentation recently about Geospatial Open Source, we were asked whether there have been any case studies on migration to Geospatial Open Source. The audience were very sympathetic to Open Source, but felt is would be much easier to sell to upper management if they could draw upon experiences of other agencies who have done something similar. Can anyone point me to reports, or programs which have migrated from ESRI/Oracle applications (ArcGIS in particular) to Open Source equivalents? -- Cameron Shorter Geospatial Systems Architect Tel: +61 (0)2 8570 5050 Mob: +61 (0)419 142 254 Think Globally, Fix Locally Commercial Support for Geospatial Open Source Solutions http://www.lisasoft.com/LISAsoft/SupportedProducts.html ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss Gary Watry Applications Developer/Designer Florida State University Office of Telecommunications 644 West Call Street Tallahassee, Fl 32306 Phone: 645-6904 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss -- Cameron Shorter Geospatial Systems Architect Tel: +61 (0)2 8570 5050 Mob: +61 (0)419 142 254 Think Globally, Fix Locally Commercial Support for Geospatial Open Source Solutions http://www.lisasoft.com/LISAsoft/SupportedProducts.html ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss Gary Watry Applications Developer/Designer Florida State University Office of Telecommunications 644 West Call Street Tallahassee, Fl 32306 Phone: 645-6904 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] begin:vcard n:Watry;Gary fn:Gary Watry tel;cell:(850) 294-5561 tel;home:(850) 668-7763 tel;work:(850) 645-6904 org:Florida State University;Office of Telecommunications adr:;;644 West Call Street;Tallahassee;Fl;32306;U.S.A. email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] email;home;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] title:Applications Developer/Designer version:2.1 end:vcard ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Who's in incubation, who has graduated?
On 29-Jan-08, at 9:36 AM, Arnulf Christl wrote: On the OSGeo home page there's the list of OSGeo projects, but no indication of which projects have finished the incubation and are OSGeo certified. To find out, you have to make your way to the Incubation Committee wiki page, and there is the only list (I could find) of which projects have graduated. We would like to highlight this information better on the main portal page but could not propose a good way on how to do this. Any idea? How about adding a simply asterisk * beside ones in incubation - with a footnote under the project list saying what the symbol represents. Should be easy enough to do. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Who's in incubation, who has graduated?
Arnulf Christl wrote: On Tue, January 29, 2008 10:54, Micha Silver wrote: I think this topic has been discussed before. Indeed, it has a history of being ignored, thanks for bringing it up again. Now that some major projects are moving we might also get more backing. Marketing has ordered a Logo for graduated projects that should come soon. It is a starting point. Good news. Another issue that I have brought up long ago but which was also never followed up on. The only process in place now is a report by the PSC that is due ... whenever someone feels like it. Some of the issues dealt with in the incubation documents are to put good processes in place so that you will (hopefully) never have to bother about copyright and licenses anymore but things like the community, governance and general activity should be monitored in some way. How about a report in the Journal every 6 months or so (every other journal issue) from the incubator committee detailing which projects started incubation, which graduated, and how the others are moving along. And this could be the right venue to promote the benefit to FOSS projects of going thru the incubation procedure. -- Micha Silver Arava Development Co, Sapir, Israel tel: +972(8)6592270 cell: +972(52)3665918 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Case studies for migrating to Geospatial FOSS?
Dr Dan Ames, Gary suggested that you might be able to provide a case study or similar into the EPA's migration from ESRI to Open Source. Specifically I have some Australian Government Agencies who would be interested to use such work, and in general, such case studies would be very beneficial for the uptake of Open Source globally. Gary Watry wrote: Contact Dr. Dan Ames at Idaho State University [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Cameron Shorter Date: Monday, January 28, 2008 22:11 Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Case studies for migrating to Geospatial FOSS? To: OSGeo Discussions Yes Gary, that would be great. Do you know where we can find information about this? On Jan 29, 2008 2:07 PM, Gary Watry wrote: Would the U.S. EPA moving from ESRI to Open Source for their Watershed model help - Original Message - From: Cameron Shorter Date: Monday, January 28, 2008 21:39 Subject: [OSGeo-Discuss] Case studies for migrating to Geospatial FOSS? To: OSGeo Discussions After giving a presentation recently about Geospatial Open Source, we were asked whether there have been any case studies on migration to Geospatial Open Source. The audience were very sympathetic to Open Source, but felt is would be much easier to sell to upper management if they could draw upon experiences of other agencies who have done something similar. Can anyone point me to reports, or programs which have migrated from ESRI/Oracle applications (ArcGIS in particular) to Open Source equivalents? -- Cameron Shorter Geospatial Systems Architect Tel: +61 (0)2 8570 5050 Mob: +61 (0)419 142 254 Think Globally, Fix Locally Commercial Support for Geospatial Open Source Solutions http://www.lisasoft.com/LISAsoft/SupportedProducts.html ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss Gary Watry Applications Developer/Designer Florida State University Office of Telecommunications 644 West Call Street Tallahassee, Fl 32306 Phone: 645-6904 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss -- Cameron Shorter Geospatial Systems Architect Tel: +61 (0)2 8570 5050 Mob: +61 (0)419 142 254 Think Globally, Fix Locally Commercial Support for Geospatial Open Source Solutions http://www.lisasoft.com/LISAsoft/SupportedProducts.html ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss Gary Watry Applications Developer/Designer Florida State University Office of Telecommunications 644 West Call Street Tallahassee, Fl 32306 Phone: 645-6904 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss -- Cameron Shorter Geospatial Systems Architect Tel: +61 (0)2 8570 5050 Mob: +61 (0)419 142 254 Think Globally, Fix Locally Commercial Support for Geospatial Open Source Solutions http://www.lisasoft.com/LISAsoft/SupportedProducts.html ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Case studies for migrating to Geospatial FOSS?
Miguel, Based upon my very limited Spanish, and skimming the titles, these look like excellent case studies. Do you think these would be any chance of encouraging the responsible departments to translate to English? The business case for a sponsor is that sponsoring a Case Study will greatly increase the chance that other agencies will also migrate to Open Source, which in turns means these agencies will invest in Open Source which is good for all Open Source users. Miguel Montesinos wrote: Hello Cameron, In Spain there are several case studies. Valencian Regional Ministry of Infrastructure and Transport is under a project of migrating all systems to open-source software[1]. As a matter of fact, that was the reason to build gvSIG[2]. All geospatial infrastructure (previously with ESRI) has been moved to open source (gvSIG, PostGIS, MapServer, deegree, geoNetwork opensource).[2] Hydrographic Confederation of Guadalquivir river (Spain). A migration of a big part of ESRI components to open-source has been made, with use of gvSIG, Geonetwork opensource, MapServer, GeoServer, deegree [3] [1] http://www.gvsig.gva.es/index.php?id=gvpontisL=2 [2] http://www.gvsig.gva.es/index.php?id=gvsig0L=2 [3] http://www.orzancongres.com/administracion/upload/imgPrograma/N-004.pdf Sorry [3] is in Spanish. I can provide more if you need. Regards - Miguel Montesinos Director Técnico PRODEVELOP C/ Conde Salvatierra, 34 - 10 46004 Valencia. Spain e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.prodevelop.es Tlf: +34 963510612 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of andrea giacomelli Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 9:10 AM To: OSGeo Discussions Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Case studies for migrating to Geospatial FOSS? Hi, not sure about the time zones involved in Gary replying...I think he is referring to: http://www.epa.gov/waterscience/basins/fs-basins4.html Gary, please correct me if I am wrong ;) Regards, Andrea, aka pibinko http://pibinko.altervista.org 2008/1/29, Cameron Shorter [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Yes Gary, that would be great. Do you know where we can find information about this? On Jan 29, 2008 2:07 PM, Gary Watry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Would the U.S. EPA moving from ESRI to Open Source for their Watershed model help - Original Message - From: Cameron Shorter Date: Monday, January 28, 2008 21:39 Subject: [OSGeo-Discuss] Case studies for migrating to Geospatial FOSS? To: OSGeo Discussions After giving a presentation recently about Geospatial Open Source, weBR were asked whether there have been any case studies on migration to Geospatial Open Source. The audience were very sympathetic to Open Source, but felt is would be much easier to sell to upper management if they could draw upon experiences of other agencies who have done something similar. Can anyone point me to reports, or programs which have migrated from ESRI/Oracle applications (ArcGIS in particular) to Open Source equivalents? -- Cameron Shorter Geospatial Systems Architect Tel: +61 (0)2 8570 5050 Mob: +61 (0)419 142 254 Think Globally, Fix Locally Commercial Support for Geospatial Open Source Solutions http://www.lisasoft.com/LISAsoft/SupportedProducts.html ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss Gary Watry Applications Developer/Designer Florida State University Office of Telecommunications 644 West Call Street Tallahassee, Fl 32306 Phone: 645-6904 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss -- Cameron
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Case studies for migrating to Geospatial FOSS?
IMO: Cameron, An alternative is that an organisation specialising in translation type services (e.g. SBS in Australia) might be approached if we can find the funding. Bruce Bannerman Do you think there would be any chance of encouraging the responsible departments to translate to English? Notice: This email and any attachments may contain information that is personal, confidential, legally privileged and/or copyright.No part of it should be reproduced, adapted or communicated without the prior written consent of the copyright owner. It is the responsibility of the recipient to check for and remove viruses. If you have received this email in error, please notify the sender by return email, delete it from your system and destroy any copies. You are not authorised to use, communicate or rely on the information contained in this email. Please consider the environment before printing this email. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
