Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] scale of FOSS projects

2008-05-06 Thread Howard Butler
On May 6, 2008, at 3:10 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In the past i've heard it suggested that really successful open source projects now need serious organisational backing. They can't be built by a network of partly-funded enthusiast contributors alone. I think really successful open source

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] scale of FOSS projects

2008-05-06 Thread Frank Warmerdam
Jo, I'm having trouble responding to your email, I think since it touches on a number of points, and perhaps just because I mostly agree with what you have said. So instead, I will just assert a few loosely related points that come to mind after reading it. 1) I still fundamentally believe a b

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Re: scale of FOSS projects

2008-05-06 Thread Dave Patton
Gilberto Camara wrote: (c) Many innovations are produced at academic institutions. Most of those institutions have no incentive nor mission to support open-source development projects. Taking these innovations out of academia and giving them institutional support (private or publ

[OSGeo-Discuss] Re: scale of FOSS projects

2008-05-06 Thread Gilberto Camara
Dear all [EMAIL PROTECTED] stated: (...) > In the past i've heard it suggested that really successful open source > projects now need serious organisational backing. They can't be built > by a network of partly-funded enthusiast contributors alone. (...) > If this is inevitable, why? Is innovatio

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] scale of FOSS projects

2008-05-06 Thread Jody Garnett
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In the past i've heard it suggested that really successful open source projects now need serious organisational backing. They can't be built by a network of partly-funded enthusiast contributors alone. The other way is to do something so obviously "correct" that a comm

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Can I do the same GIS tasks with OS (as with ESRI)?

2008-05-06 Thread P Kishor
On 5/6/08, Christopher Schmidt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, May 06, 2008 at 11:00:54PM +0200, Dirk Frigne wrote: > > > On Fri, Apr 25, 2008 at 08:21:21PM +0200, Arnulf Christl wrote: > > > > What was a Desktop GIS exactly? I only have a browser and for some > > > strange > > > > reason

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Can I do the same GIS tasks with OS (as with ESRI)?

2008-05-06 Thread Christopher Schmidt
On Tue, May 06, 2008 at 11:00:54PM +0200, Dirk Frigne wrote: > > On Fri, Apr 25, 2008 at 08:21:21PM +0200, Arnulf Christl wrote: > > > What was a Desktop GIS exactly? I only have a browser and for some > > strange > > > reason all that I do starts with an http://... > > > > A Desktop GIS is what y

RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] Can I do the same GIS tasks with OS (as with ESRI)?

2008-05-06 Thread Dirk Frigne
> -Oorspronkelijk bericht- > Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:discuss- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] Namens Christopher Schmidt > Verzonden: vrijdag 25 april 2008 20:52 > Aan: OSGeo Discussions > Onderwerp: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Can I do the same GIS tasks with OS (as > with ESRI)? > > On Fri, Apr 25, 2

RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] scale of FOSS projects

2008-05-06 Thread Landon Blake
Puneet, I chose my words poorly. This is what happens when I am in a hurry. :] A fork is the ultimate evil in the sense that it diverts resources like time and money. "United we stand, divided we fall." It is the ultimate good in the sense that it prevents any one organization for asserting comp

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] scale of FOSS projects

2008-05-06 Thread P Kishor
On 5/6/08, Landon Blake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: .. > > I think the ability to fork open source code puts a real limitation on > the ability of any one entity to create an "open source monopoly". Forks > are the ultimate evil in the open source world, but they sometimes > become the necessary

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] scale of FOSS projects

2008-05-06 Thread Cameron Shorter
Jo, consolidation is a natural progression in any market, even Open Source. This is driven by user requirements, which in turn drives resources. Users in general want maximum functionality for their investment. They want low risk. They want future proofing. This is usually achieved by selectin

RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] scale of FOSS projects

2008-05-06 Thread Landon Blake
Jo, You have touched on an issue dear to my heart. I have a lot of work to do this afternoon, so I can't babble on as I normally do. But, I can't resist one or two short comments. Jo wrote: "In the past i've heard it suggested that really successful open source projects now need serious organisat

[OSGeo-Discuss] scale of FOSS projects

2008-05-06 Thread jo
Increasingly the projects that OSGeo accepts into incubation are ones that have been created and supported by a large organisation - a company or agency - now seeking to get more people from "outside", who they are not directly supporting, properly involved. In the past i've heard it suggested th

[OSGeo-Discuss] Geospatial Web Services workshop, CGS University of Nottingham

2008-05-06 Thread Anand Suchith
**Apologies for cross posting** Dear All, On behalf of Service-Oriented Software Research Network (SOSoRNET) and Centre for Geospatial Science, University of Nottingham i would like to invite you to join us for a two day workshop on geospatial web services which will be held at the University