[OSGeo-Discuss] FOSS4G 2007 Videos

2008-05-14 Thread Tyler Mitchell (OSGeo)
I was recently reminded about videos for last years FOSS4G event.   
The only videos we have are from the opening and closing plenary  
sessions and they've been posted online for a while:


http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/57493
http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/57938

They are pretty good quality, though there is some sound clipping and  
you can't see the actual slides, only the speaker.


Enjoy.

p.s. If you like being a mix-master and want to try to take the raw  
video footage and mix it up with some cool way of injecting slide  
content, let me know and I'll mail you a DVD.


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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] FOSS4G 2007 Videos

2008-05-14 Thread Paul Ramsey
I've found it impossible to every view these, in particular the closing.
It would be nice if they were mixed together with the slides, that's for sure.

P

On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 9:45 AM, Tyler Mitchell (OSGeo)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I was recently reminded about videos for last years FOSS4G event.  The only
 videos we have are from the opening and closing plenary sessions and they've
 been posted online for a while:

 http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/57493
 http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/57938

 They are pretty good quality, though there is some sound clipping and you
 can't see the actual slides, only the speaker.

 Enjoy.

 p.s. If you like being a mix-master and want to try to take the raw video
 footage and mix it up with some cool way of injecting slide content, let me
 know and I'll mail you a DVD.

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] FOSS4G 2007 Videos

2008-05-14 Thread Dave Patton

Tyler Mitchell (OSGeo) wrote:

I was recently reminded about videos for last years FOSS4G event.
The only videos we have are from the opening and closing plenary
sessions and they've been posted online for a while:

http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/57493 
http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/57938


They are pretty good quality, though there is some sound clipping and
 you can't see the actual slides, only the speaker.


I've created a wiki page for FOSS4G2007 Video and Photos:
http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/FOSS4G2007_Video_and_Photos

I added some notes that may help people to get the
videos to play properly.

Maybe someone wants to create a Table of Contents
(that includes the timecode for each section) for
each video and put it on this page ?

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RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] Re: Sign the Hague declaration

2008-05-14 Thread Michael P. Gerlek
I'm not looking to start a debate, but...

 We call on all governments to:

   1. Procure only information technology that implements free and
open standards;
   2. Deliver e-government services based exclusively on free and open
standards;
   3. Use only free and open digital standards in their own
activities.


I'm certainly sympathetic to the desires this declaration seems to
express, but this seems to go too far by using words like only and
exclusively.

There are undoubtedly cases where extant open standards are not as
mature, stable, featureful, mission-safe, etc, as the relevant
proprietary solutions, and so as a pragmatic matter governments must
rely on the proprietary works in those cases.

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 Hi all
 
 A new group is being formed to promote open digital 
 standards, starting with a declaration regarding the 
 importance of digital standards being truly open:
 
 http://www.digistan.org/hague-declaration:en
 
 Please read it and sign if you agree. I'm sure most working 
 with spatial data would have encountered problems with the 
 core areas where standards are missing or not being supported 
 properly. Think GIS projects. Or CAD. I'm sure there are others...
 
 Cheers
 
 Chris
 
 
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Re: Sign the Hague declaration

2008-05-14 Thread P Kishor
On 5/14/08, Michael P. Gerlek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I'm not looking to start a debate, but...


you just did, and a good one at that.

   We call on all governments to:
  
 1. Procure only information technology that implements free and
  open standards;
 2. Deliver e-government services based exclusively on free and open
  standards;
 3. Use only free and open digital standards in their own
  activities.
  

  I'm certainly sympathetic to the desires this declaration seems to
  express, but this seems to go too far by using words like only and
  exclusively.

indeed. As much as an open source advocate, proponent and practitioner
I have, I see little positive effect that this declaration would have.
In all likelihood, it would further brand us as zealots.

I thought us or them went out the window a few years ago when we
realized that working together is better.

free and open digital standards is all well and good but a
meaningless concept. Standard for what?



  There are undoubtedly cases where extant open standards are not as
  mature, stable, featureful, mission-safe, etc, as the relevant
  proprietary solutions, and so as a pragmatic matter governments must
  rely on the proprietary works in those cases.


  -mpg





   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Puttick
   Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 11:28 AM
   To: discuss@lists.osgeo.org
   Subject: [OSGeo-Discuss] Re: Sign the Hague declaration
  
   Hi all
  
   A new group is being formed to promote open digital
   standards, starting with a declaration regarding the
   importance of digital standards being truly open:
  
   http://www.digistan.org/hague-declaration:en
  
   Please read it and sign if you agree. I'm sure most working
   with spatial data would have encountered problems with the
   core areas where standards are missing or not being supported
   properly. Think GIS projects. Or CAD. I'm sure there are others...
  
   Cheers
  
   Chris
  
  
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Re: Sign the Hague declaration

2008-05-14 Thread Benjamin Henrion
Michael P. Gerlek [EMAIL PROTECTED] [080514]:
 I'm not looking to start a debate, but...
 
  We call on all governments to:
 
1. Procure only information technology that implements free and
 open standards;
2. Deliver e-government services based exclusively on free and open
 standards;
3. Use only free and open digital standards in their own
 activities.
 
 
 I'm certainly sympathetic to the desires this declaration seems to
 express, but this seems to go too far by using words like only and
 exclusively.
 
 There are undoubtedly cases where extant open standards are not as
 mature, stable, featureful, mission-safe, etc, as the relevant
 proprietary solutions, and so as a pragmatic matter governments must
 rely on the proprietary works in those cases.

And force its citizens to buy a copy of proprietary software, or to use
special software.

When it comes to contact with citizens, governments could exclude
participation of their own citizens just by using proprietary standards.

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RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] Re: Sign the Hague declaration

2008-05-14 Thread Fee, James
Lester Caine  wrote:

It 'somewhat annoys me' when I receive an M$ document from a 
council and am expected to edit and return it. They get back a PDF because I 
know that the format will be as I laid it out.

You must not mean a M$ Office Open XML document since it is of course and 
open standard.  *shrug*  

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Re: Sign the Hague declaration

2008-05-14 Thread Lester Caine

Fee, James wrote:

Lester Caine  wrote:

 It 'somewhat annoys me' when I receive an M$ document from a
 council and am expected to edit and return it. They get back a PDF 
because I

 know that the format will be as I laid it out.

You must not mean a M$ Office Open XML document since it is of course 
and open standard.  *shrug* 


Well since M$ do not have any software that actually produces OOXML documents 
yet  At least not to the format submitted to ISO ;)
The main problem THERE of cause is that ISO standards are not free and open 
anyway. HOW much does a copy cost :)


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