RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] Re: Voting for new OSGeo Charter Members openuntil 6th June 2008

2008-06-01 Thread Michael P. Gerlek
+1 from here too.  All 18 may be indeed be worthy, but moving the goal
post once the ball is in play sets a dangerous precedent.

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> Lorenzo Becchi wrote:
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> > Dave Patton wrote:
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> >> Changing the policy may be appropriate, but not
> >> during the process.
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> > +1 to Dave.
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> > I don't think it's a good idea to change policy now.
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> +1 to the above.
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Re: Voting for new OSGeo Charter Members open until 6th June 2008

2008-06-01 Thread Frank Warmerdam

Jeroen Ticheler wrote:

+1 from me.
I'm actually curious to understand what the reason is behind the number 
of new charter members. The policy says:
"The number of new members will be between 10% and one third of the 
existing charter membership count as decided by the board."
Now, that means an ever increasing number even if the total OSGeo 
community would be shrinking. Shouldn't the number of new charter 
members also be related to e.g. the number of people subscribed to the 
OSGeo discuss list (or another community size indicator)?


Jeroen,

People also drop off the list over time.  If a charter member does not
vote at all for two straight years, the Secretary is responsible for
removing them from the charter member list.

The 10-33% range was intended to allow renewal and growth while not
making it likely that the direction of the foundation is likely to be
swamped by a sudden influx of not-so-likeminded new members.

My hope is that the board would have some sense of how many additional
quality members we are likely to find in a year when setting the exact
number of new members.

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Re: Voting for new OSGeo Charter Members open until 6th June 2008

2008-06-01 Thread Jeroen Ticheler

+1 from me.
I'm actually curious to understand what the reason is behind the  
number of new charter members. The policy says:
"The number of new members will be between 10% and one third of the  
existing charter membership count as decided by the board."
Now, that means an ever increasing number even if the total OSGeo  
community would be shrinking. Shouldn't the number of new charter  
members also be related to e.g. the number of people subscribed to the  
OSGeo discuss list (or another community size indicator)?

Ciao,
Jeroen

On May 31, 2008, at 5:00 AM, Dave Patton wrote:


P Kishor wrote:
So, on the basis of a highly scientific polling methodology, we  
have 5

for inviting all 18 nominated to become Charter Members and 2 for
leaving 3 behind.
There is some logic in sticking with the program, but programs have  
to

be malleable and changeable with the times and situation. 15 is as
arbitrary a number as 18. My choosing 15 out of the list is going to
100% irrational and arbitrary.


3 is as arbitrary a number as 4, or 5, or 6.
So what would happen if there were 19 nominations,
or 20 or 21 
Changing the policy may be appropriate, but not
during the process. For example, knowing that
the 'magic number' is 15, some people might
have decided not to make further nominations
on seeing a list of 18 well qualified nominees,
but may have made a different choice had they
known the 'magic number' could be changed.

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