Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Re: [GRASS-dev] terminology issues in grass7

2009-06-11 Thread Micha Silver

Martin Landa wrote:


Hi,

2009/5/14 Martin Landa :

[...]

  

I agree, anyway I wonder in which period we can reach some consensus
and change the terminology in GRASS7...



to summarize, is there any real objections to change terminology in GRASS7

map -> layer (Map Layer)
  
Yes, that sounds right to me. A map in other GIS context is the final 
product of many overlapping "layers". I'd like to see that change 
propogated to both raster and vector.

layer -> catset (Category Set)
  
This change does not remove the confusion.  The concept of "layer" is 
explained both on the vectorintro wiki page [1], and in the manuals as 
database links. If that's what it is, that's what it should be called.  
So layer might become "data link" or  "attribute link"


And what will the term "cat" be changed to?? I still like Michael 
Barton's  suggestion [2] of cat being renamed "key" (or "id")




[1]http://grass.osgeo.org/wiki/Vector_Database_Management#Concepts_and_jargon
[2] http://grass.osgeo.org/wiki/GRASS_7_Terminology

Then I would vote to start changing terminology in trunk ASAP
(including manual pages, etc.).

Regards, Martin

  


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[OSGeo-Discuss] Re: [GRASS-dev] terminology issues in grass7

2009-06-11 Thread Martin Landa
Hi,

Hi,

2009/6/11 Hamish :

[...]

>> map -> layer (Map Layer)
>> layer -> catset (Category Set)
> to be honest, I'm not a fan of either.
>
> map -> layer: no need for change; layer is less meaningful in this context
>  (my POV is not from the GUI layer-list perspective, so the metaphor makes
>   little sense)

I disagree, 'map' is completely confusing term (in my eyes) in this
context (my POV is "layer-based" GIS). Why GRASS should use different
term when other GIS packages and the most of GIS-related literature
use 'layer' in this context? I cannot see the point.

> layer -> catset: sorry, yuck.
>  (if it must be renamed, what's was wrong with going back to "field"?)
>  [I remember Radim explained on-list why that was changed when it
>   became "layer", ... need to dig out that thread]

Catset seems to me as better choice, since it puts categories to the
set. (not strong opinion here)

Martin

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[OSGeo-Discuss] Re: [GRASS-dev] terminology issues in grass7

2009-06-11 Thread Martin Landa
Hi,

2009/5/14 Martin Landa :

[...]

> I agree, anyway I wonder in which period we can reach some consensus
> and change the terminology in GRASS7...

to summarize, is there any real objections to change terminology in GRASS7

map -> layer (Map Layer)
layer -> catset (Category Set)

Then I would vote to start changing terminology in trunk ASAP
(including manual pages, etc.).

Regards, Martin

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Which GPS

2009-06-11 Thread andrea antonello
Hi Ravi,
BeeGIS will soon have a mini-helping hand based on android enabled phones.
It will take care of gps logging (to be exported in GIS format) and
acquisition of gps positioned and orientated pictures.
It will also be able to log and manually take notes referenced notes.
All of it will be importable in BeeGIS as geonotes and imagenotes.
This would take care of some of the points mentioned below, but since
it is not tested (will be first time next week) I can't tell you about
accuracy.

Regards,
Andrea



On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 2:23 PM, RAVI KUMAR wrote:
>
> Hi,
> wish to introduce 'Mobile Mapping for administration', with open GIS in India.
>
> OpenGIS software:
> I find only BeeGIS and GVSIG, compatible with direct (online) data logging
> as well as off-line (when not surveying)possible. Will be happy to have 
> pointers on other Open GIS software.
>
> Which GPS:
> wish to experiment with GPS before suggesting to the users on a combination
> of GPS (data logger) which can be used for collecting data and loading the 
> same in the evening after work, on any computer.
>
> Accuracy: What are the merits I have to look for such that best possible 
> accuracy (near equator or Latitude less than 20 Deg North).
>
> Cost: This is the most important factor, as the budget is modest.
>
> Scenario:
> 1. Logger Pedals, GPS in pocket set to log location every 5 seconds.
> 2. Note time and notes on a scribble pad in local language. (the data
>   logger only carries the GPS, even may not be aware of its function)
> 3. Back at the base the GPS and notes are deposited with a system operator
>   who will log the data through bluetooth, and offer it to local 
> administration on tasks like, Garbage removal, school attendance or even 
> traffic snarls.
>
> This will help in the second step of a project where base GIS data is 
> readied, and awaits societal use.
>
> Cheers
>
> Ravi Kumar
>
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Which GPS

2009-06-11 Thread Chris Puttick
Depends on the accuracy you hope to achieve, but you might want to look at the 
OpenMoko Freerunner. This has the advantage of also being a mobile phone i.e. 
the data being gathered can be synchronised with a server whenever there is a 
mobile signal, as well as be reviewed with gvSIG locally. The Freerunner also 
has a real mini USB port i.e. not just for charging, it can also be used with a 
proper keyboard.

Regards

Chris

- "RAVI KUMAR"  wrote:

> Hi,
> wish to introduce 'Mobile Mapping for administration', with open GIS
> in India.
> 
> OpenGIS software:
> I find only BeeGIS and GVSIG, compatible with direct (online) data
> logging
> as well as off-line (when not surveying)possible. Will be happy to
> have pointers on other Open GIS software.
> 
> Which GPS:
> wish to experiment with GPS before suggesting to the users on a
> combination
> of GPS (data logger) which can be used for collecting data and loading
> the same in the evening after work, on any computer.
> 
> Accuracy: What are the merits I have to look for such that best
> possible accuracy (near equator or Latitude less than 20 Deg North).
> 
> Cost: This is the most important factor, as the budget is modest.
> 
> Scenario:
> 1. Logger Pedals, GPS in pocket set to log location every 5 seconds.
> 2. Note time and notes on a scribble pad in local language. (the data
>logger only carries the GPS, even may not be aware of its function)
> 3. Back at the base the GPS and notes are deposited with a system
> operator
>who will log the data through bluetooth, and offer it to local
> administration on tasks like, Garbage removal, school attendance or
> even traffic snarls.
> 
> This will help in the second step of a project where base GIS data is
> readied, and awaits societal use.
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Ravi Kumar
> 
> 
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[OSGeo-Discuss] Which GPS

2009-06-11 Thread RAVI KUMAR

Hi,
wish to introduce 'Mobile Mapping for administration', with open GIS in India.

OpenGIS software:
I find only BeeGIS and GVSIG, compatible with direct (online) data logging
as well as off-line (when not surveying)possible. Will be happy to have 
pointers on other Open GIS software.

Which GPS:
wish to experiment with GPS before suggesting to the users on a combination
of GPS (data logger) which can be used for collecting data and loading the same 
in the evening after work, on any computer.

Accuracy: What are the merits I have to look for such that best possible 
accuracy (near equator or Latitude less than 20 Deg North).

Cost: This is the most important factor, as the budget is modest.

Scenario:
1. Logger Pedals, GPS in pocket set to log location every 5 seconds.
2. Note time and notes on a scribble pad in local language. (the data 
   logger only carries the GPS, even may not be aware of its function)
3. Back at the base the GPS and notes are deposited with a system operator
   who will log the data through bluetooth, and offer it to local 
administration on tasks like, Garbage removal, school attendance or even 
traffic snarls.

This will help in the second step of a project where base GIS data is readied, 
and awaits societal use.

Cheers

Ravi Kumar 


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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] foss4g2009 abstract submit

2009-06-11 Thread andrea antonello
I got some offlist email, report back what I got:

> You can add both authors to the bio section, both authors to the author
> name, comma separated (although he field width is a problem I think).
> As long as both authors are in the bio, we will pick it up.

Ciao
Andrea



On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 12:29 AM, Venkatesh
Raghavan wrote:
> I added multiple author names to the abstract itself.
> Could not think of another way.
>
> Best
>
> Venka
>
> andrea antonello wrote:
>>
>> I need a small info about the submission mechanism for the foss4g
>> abstract submission. I find no proper way to supply more authors and
>> institutions for a submission. Is the only way to add them to the
>> abstract itself?
>> Anyone with the same problem?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Andrea
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