RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] Re: Will there be an OSGeo Desktop shootout atFOSS4G 2010?

2009-12-22 Thread Miguel Montesinos
Hello, I think that a simple comparison to what ArcGIS does is limitating. Several issues arises: - Why compare to ArcGIS 9.3 and not Geomedia, MapInfo,...? - What about features that OS GIS desktops provides not present in ArcGIS 9.3? I'd rather have a comparison

[OSGeo-Discuss] Mobile shootout at FOSS4G 2010?

2009-12-22 Thread Miguel Montesinos
Hello, Thinking about OSGeo desktop shootout, I think that also having a mobile shootout comparison of both closed and open source mobile GIS/SDI clients would be of high interest, for showing that there are a full range of solutions from the DB to the mobile device using open source software.

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Mobile shootout at FOSS4G 2010?

2009-12-22 Thread Stefan Steiniger
Hei, well so it would be ArcPad (1) vs. gvSIG Mobile Pilot (2)? because these are the only platforms I know of that are (1) heavily used and (2) FOS. Or does anybody know other FOS mobile clients too? The latter info would be highly appreciate becasue then I could revise nmy article sections

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Mobile shootout at FOSS4G 2010?

2009-12-22 Thread andrea antonello
Hei boys, don't forget geopaparazzi, soon on your androids :) It has a particular target but can IMHO be considered: http://www.geopaparazzi.eu/ Andrea On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 10:26 AM, Stefan Steiniger sst...@geo.uzh.ch wrote: Hei, well so it would be ArcPad (1) vs. gvSIG Mobile Pilot (2)?

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Re: Will there be an OSGeo Desktop shootout atFOSS4G 2010?

2009-12-22 Thread Brian Russo
I do not think a simple feature comparison is very useful. Seeing workflows that happen to use XYZ software or.. how we transitioned from ABC proprietary software to XYZ open source and improved performance 10% while reducing costs 20% etc.. that's useful and convincing. Knowing that ABC

[OSGeo-Discuss] OSGEO code

2009-12-22 Thread Jo
Hi, I apologise if this is out of topic, but I don't know where else to post this question. I'm implementing the OSGEO Tile Map Server http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Tile_Map_Service_Specification http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Tile_Map_Service_Specificationand I came across a SRS named OSGEO:41001;

[OSGeo-Discuss] spatial-literacy.org

2009-12-22 Thread Mateusz Loskot
Hi, While reading http://www.spatialanalysisonline.com I've came across another related resource that might be useful as educational material: http://www.spatial-literacy.org Check the Videos Talks Best regards, -- Mateusz Loskot, http://mateusz.loskot.net

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Re: Will there be an OSGeo Desktop shootout atFOSS4G 2010?

2009-12-22 Thread Daniel Ames
Hi all, This is a great discussion and I think that we're all generally on the same page. Here's a little more food for thought regarding a desktop shootout: Why compare to ESRI? The answer is because they own the lion's share of the market with one-third of the global market share, and are used

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] OSGEO code

2009-12-22 Thread Luis W. Sevilla
Hi Jo, I agree, but It seems EPSG:3785 it's the official code for Spherical/Web Mercator so it should be the one on this updated spec. http://www.spatialreference.org/ref/epsg/3785/ , http://www.iter.dk/post/2008/05/SphericalWeb-Mercator-EPSG-code-3785.aspx I'm looking for authority

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Re: Will there be an OSGeo Desktop shootout atFOSS4G 2010?

2009-12-22 Thread Stefan Steiniger
Hei Dan, thanks for the thoughts - I like them too and thats what I see too.. we need not only to bring up the highlights between FOSGIS but even more to convince people to eventually have a look on FOSGIS by comparing it to ESRIs desktop software, since they have set a bit the standards (at

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Re: Will there be an OSGeo Desktop shootout atFOSS4G 2010?

2009-12-22 Thread Tyler Mitchell (OSGeo)
So if this is true, then that means that 80% of GIS users are asking the question, Why should I use desktop open source XXX instead of ESRI? I get more questions asking about the differences between FOSS projects than between FOSS and proprietary products. If people are already coming to

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Re: Will there be an OSGeo Desktop shootout atFOSS4G 2010?

2009-12-22 Thread Daniel Ames
Helena, perhaps we should move this discussion to the EDU list, since this side by side comparison you have done could be expanded to include multiple desktop applications and would be fantastic to have as an educational tool. Perhaps we can copy your exercises on a WIKI page and then encourage

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Re: Will there be an OSGeo Desktop shootout atFOSS4G 2010?

2009-12-22 Thread Frank Warmerdam
Daniel Ames wrote: I teach ArcGIS 9.3 every semester, so I'll happily provide that perspective (as well as the MapWindow desktop perspective). By the way Tyler gave an awesome OSGeo talk at AGU in San Francisco last week and handled the how does this stack up to ESRI question brilliantly. I

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Re: Will there be an OSGeo Desktop shootout atFOSS4G 2010?

2009-12-22 Thread Cameron Shorter
Helena, Excellent stuff. I don't suppose you could be tempted to add reference to your material to the OSGeo Case Studies page: http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Case_Studies#GRASS On 23/12/2009 8:20 AM, Helena Mitasova wrote: I have numerous examples of gis tasks done side-by-side in GRASS and

Re: [OSGeo-Edu] Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Re: Will there be an OSGeo Desktop shootout atFOSS4G 2010?

2009-12-22 Thread Helena Mitasova
Daniel, yes, I am definitely more interested in the educational aspect of the comparison than the performance which I think would be very difficult to measure because accuracy and quality of the results (whatever that means) may be as important as speed, if not more. I have been promising

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Re: Will there be an OSGeo Desktop shootout atFOSS4G 2010?

2009-12-22 Thread Helena Mitasova
Cameron, I added it. Helena On Dec 22, 2009, at 7:13 PM, Cameron Shorter wrote: Helena, Excellent stuff. I don't suppose you could be tempted to add reference to your material to the OSGeo Case Studies page: http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Case_Studies#GRASS On 23/12/2009 8:20 AM, Helena

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] OSGEO code

2009-12-22 Thread Arnulf Christl
Christopher Schmidt wrote: On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 10:29:56AM +, Jo wrote: Hi, I apologise if this is out of topic, but I don't know where else to post this question. I'm implementing the OSGEO Tile Map Server http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Tile_Map_Service_Specification

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Re: Will there be an OSGeo Desktop shootout atFOSS4G 2010?

2009-12-22 Thread Tyler Mitchell (OSGeo)
Frank Warmerdam wrote: Daniel Ames wrote: I teach ArcGIS 9.3 every semester, so I'll happily provide that perspective (as well as the MapWindow desktop perspective). By the way Tyler gave an awesome OSGeo talk at AGU in San Francisco last week and handled the how does this stack up to ESRI