Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] What GeoSpatial Open Source Software do Surveyors use?

2010-04-01 Thread Markus Neteler
Cameron,

On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 10:16 PM, Cameron Shorter
 wrote:
> Thank you Marina,

(small correction: Maria)

> That is a good example.
> To be complete, could you also answer:
> * What would be the proprietary equivalent software you would use?

I'll leave that to Maria.

> * Why did you decide to use GRASS instead of proprietary software?
> (Hopefully more than "it was cheaper")

... note that she actually *author* of the code. She and her team have
developed it over the last years.

> * It seems you are officiated with a University?

She is professor there.

> Industry is more convinced
> by case studies that come out of industry, as universities are often
> associated with "smart geeks, who have a high tollerance to things going
> wrong because they can fix it themselves". Is there a non-education
> affilition you can draw upon? Did you do this work for a governement
> department or similar?

I leave this again to Maria.

Best
Markus

> maria.brove...@diiar-topo.polimi.it wrote:
>>
>> Dear Cameron
>> if you are interested also in LiDAR data filtering (to obtain from the
>> LiDAR point cloud the digital terrain model), we developed  commands into
>> GRASS. They have to be used in sequence.
>>
>> http://grass.osgeo.org/gdp/html_grass64/v.lidar.edgedetection.html
>> http://grass.osgeo.org/gdp/html_grass64/v.lidar.growing.html
>> http://grass.osgeo.org/gdp/html_grass64/v.lidar.correction.html
>> http://grass.osgeo.org/gdp/html_grass64/v.surf.bspline.html
>>
>> A detailed description is available here:
>>
>>
>> http://www.foss4g2006.org/getFile.py/access?contribId=48&sessionId=59&resId=7&materialId=slides&confId=1
>>
>> a more recent and summarised version can be found here:
>>
>>
>> http://geomatica.como.polimi.it/corsi/remote_sensing/LiDAR_filtering_with_GRASS-lab4.pdf
>>
>> We worked also on calibration of  the filtering parameters (around 20
>> parameters) by integrating the USGS UCODE and GRASS. Details are available
>> here:
>>
>> http://www.isprs.org/proceedings/XXXVIII/1_4_7-W5/paper/Brovelli-126.pdf
>>
>> I hope it helps.
>>
>> Cheers.
>> Maria
>>
>>
>>
>>> - "Cameron Shorter"  wrote:
>>>
 I'm giving a presentation on GeoSpatial Open Source at the
 international
 Surveyors conference here in Sydney.
 http://www.fig2010.com/

 I'd like advice on what use cases and Open Source packages I should
 focus on during the presentation.
 Feedback from Surveyors welcomed.

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RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] Whitebox GAT (Chris Puttick)

2010-04-01 Thread Landon Blake
Mr. Bolz:

Are you looking for a paid internship?

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RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] What GeoSpatial Open Source Software doSurveyorsuse?

2010-04-01 Thread Landon Blake
Cameron,

Most of the material from my slide show can be downloaded here:

http://www.redefinedhorizons.com/introduction_to_vector_gis_for_land_sur
veyors.html

I think the only thing that is missing will be the speaker outline. I
adhere to the slide:ology method of slide show presentations, so most of
my slides have little text. Most of the presentation meat is in my
speaker outline. If you provide me with a private e-mail I will send you
my speaker outline.

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doSurveyorsuse?

Ladon,
Thank you, your presentation sounds like an excellent basis for my 
presentation.
Please send it through.
I'm expecting I'll get a chuckle from the audience when mentioning you 
as  "The Sunburned Surveyor".

Landon Blake wrote:
> Cameron,
>
> I recently gave a presentation entitled "introduction to vector GIS
for
> land surveyors" at the joint California Land Surveyor
Association/Nevada
> Association of Land Surveyors Annual Conference in Reno, Nevada. It
> included demonstrations of how to use OpenJUMP in a land surveying
> practice.
>
> I would be happy to share the materials from my presentation with you.
>
> I currently use OpenJUMP to perform the following tasks in my own
survey
> practice:
>
> - Project Planning
> - Parcel Management
> - Preparation of GIS Deliverables from Survey/CAD Data
>
> I also have written some AutoLISP routines that help improve CAD/GIS
> integration. I haven't put in as much time on this as I want to, but
my
> code does currently support export of WKT geometries from CAD using
> AutoLISP.
>
> Let me know if any of this is helpful. You might also visit:
>
> http://surveyos.sourceforge.net/
> http://sunburnedsurveyorongis.blogspot.com/
>
> I give you my best wishes for your presentation to FIG.
>
> Landon (AKA - The Sunburned Surveyor)
> Office Phone Number: (209) 946-0268
> Cell Phone Number: (209) 992-0658
>  
>  
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> [mailto:discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org] On Behalf Of Cameron Shorter
> Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2010 12:45 AM
> To: OSGeo Discussions
> Subject: [OSGeo-Discuss] What GeoSpatial Open Source Software do
> Surveyorsuse?
>
> I'm giving a presentation on GeoSpatial Open Source at the
international
>
> Surveyors conference here in Sydney.
> http://www.fig2010.com/
>
> I'd like advice on what use cases and Open Source packages I should 
> focus on during the presentation.
> Feedback from Surveyors welcomed.
>
>   


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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] What GeoSpatial Open Source Software do Surveyors use?

2010-04-01 Thread Joseph Reeves
Hi Cameron,

You might find these Oxford Archaeology produced guides interesting:

http://openarchaeology.net/project/survey-and-gis-manual

There's also the MapAction Field Guide to Humanitarian Mapping:

http://www.mapaction.org/content/view/183/59/

If you're looking for a couple of real feel good use cases (although I
can imagine it may not be 100% applicable to what you're doing),
there's the amazing work conducted by various people (Mikel Maron and
Robert Soden spring immediately to mind, although there are many more)
mapping Haiti and Kibera, Kenya into OpenStreetMap.

Cheers, Joseph



On 1 April 2010 21:00, Cameron Shorter  wrote:
> Thanks Chris, it would count if Total Open Station was more stable (reported
> as alpha software on the website).
>
> I'm wanting to convince Open Source skeptics that there is robust Open
> Source Software available for surveyors which they can use right now.
>
> Eg, here is a list of tasks that surveyors regularly perform:
>
> Task 1:
> * XXX organisation (ideally big name organisation), uses YYY OS software to
> achieve task.
>
> Task 2:
> ...
>
> Chris Puttick wrote:
>>
>> Well we have surveyors trialling Total Open Station into gvSIG and people
>> using Leica's software into gvSIG; I guess here is the message that "into
>> GIS" is a move forward for all but building survey and that there are open
>> source GIS packages well up to the job.
>>
>> And for building survey? Well, we're doing some work with various open
>> source tools to generate dense point clouds from photos; we think the
>> resulting output could reach millimetre accuracy using known cameras/lenses
>> and with many shots. Photograph, process, measure at your leisure... And a
>> lovely 3D photo-realistic model for client as an output too!
>>
>> Does that count?
>>
>> Chris
>>
>> - "Cameron Shorter"  wrote:
>>
>>
>>>
>>> I'm giving a presentation on GeoSpatial Open Source at the
>>> international Surveyors conference here in Sydney.
>>> http://www.fig2010.com/
>>>
>>> I'd like advice on what use cases and Open Source packages I should focus
>>> on during the presentation.
>>> Feedback from Surveyors welcomed.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Cameron Shorter
>>> Geospatial Solutions Manager
>>> Tel: +61 (0)2 8570 5050
>>> Mob: +61 (0)419 142 254
>>>
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] What GeoSpatial Open Source Software do Surveyorsuse?

2010-04-01 Thread Cameron Shorter

Ladon,
Thank you, your presentation sounds like an excellent basis for my 
presentation.

Please send it through.
I'm expecting I'll get a chuckle from the audience when mentioning you 
as  "The Sunburned Surveyor".


Landon Blake wrote:

Cameron,

I recently gave a presentation entitled "introduction to vector GIS for
land surveyors" at the joint California Land Surveyor Association/Nevada
Association of Land Surveyors Annual Conference in Reno, Nevada. It
included demonstrations of how to use OpenJUMP in a land surveying
practice.

I would be happy to share the materials from my presentation with you.

I currently use OpenJUMP to perform the following tasks in my own survey
practice:

- Project Planning
- Parcel Management
- Preparation of GIS Deliverables from Survey/CAD Data

I also have written some AutoLISP routines that help improve CAD/GIS
integration. I haven't put in as much time on this as I want to, but my
code does currently support export of WKT geometries from CAD using
AutoLISP.

Let me know if any of this is helpful. You might also visit:

http://surveyos.sourceforge.net/
http://sunburnedsurveyorongis.blogspot.com/

I give you my best wishes for your presentation to FIG.

Landon (AKA - The Sunburned Surveyor)
Office Phone Number: (209) 946-0268
Cell Phone Number: (209) 992-0658
 
 
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From: discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org
[mailto:discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org] On Behalf Of Cameron Shorter
Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2010 12:45 AM
To: OSGeo Discussions
Subject: [OSGeo-Discuss] What GeoSpatial Open Source Software do
Surveyorsuse?

I'm giving a presentation on GeoSpatial Open Source at the international

Surveyors conference here in Sydney.
http://www.fig2010.com/

I'd like advice on what use cases and Open Source packages I should 
focus on during the presentation.

Feedback from Surveyors welcomed.

  



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RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] What GeoSpatial Open Source Software do Surveyorsuse?

2010-04-01 Thread Landon Blake
Cameron,

I recently gave a presentation entitled "introduction to vector GIS for
land surveyors" at the joint California Land Surveyor Association/Nevada
Association of Land Surveyors Annual Conference in Reno, Nevada. It
included demonstrations of how to use OpenJUMP in a land surveying
practice.

I would be happy to share the materials from my presentation with you.

I currently use OpenJUMP to perform the following tasks in my own survey
practice:

- Project Planning
- Parcel Management
- Preparation of GIS Deliverables from Survey/CAD Data

I also have written some AutoLISP routines that help improve CAD/GIS
integration. I haven't put in as much time on this as I want to, but my
code does currently support export of WKT geometries from CAD using
AutoLISP.

Let me know if any of this is helpful. You might also visit:

http://surveyos.sourceforge.net/
http://sunburnedsurveyorongis.blogspot.com/

I give you my best wishes for your presentation to FIG.

Landon (AKA - The Sunburned Surveyor)
Office Phone Number: (209) 946-0268
Cell Phone Number: (209) 992-0658
 
 
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[mailto:discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org] On Behalf Of Cameron Shorter
Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2010 12:45 AM
To: OSGeo Discussions
Subject: [OSGeo-Discuss] What GeoSpatial Open Source Software do
Surveyorsuse?

I'm giving a presentation on GeoSpatial Open Source at the international

Surveyors conference here in Sydney.
http://www.fig2010.com/

I'd like advice on what use cases and Open Source packages I should 
focus on during the presentation.
Feedback from Surveyors welcomed.

-- 
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] What GeoSpatial Open Source Software do Surveyors use?

2010-04-01 Thread Cameron Shorter

Thank you Marina,
That is a good example.
To be complete, could you also answer:
* What would be the proprietary equivalent software you would use?

* Why did you decide to use GRASS instead of proprietary software?
(Hopefully more than "it was cheaper")

* It seems you are officiated with a University? Industry is more 
convinced by case studies that come out of industry, as universities are 
often associated with "smart geeks, who have a high tollerance to things 
going wrong because they can fix it themselves". Is there a 
non-education affilition you can draw upon? Did you do this work for a 
governement department or similar?


maria.brove...@diiar-topo.polimi.it wrote:

Dear Cameron
if you are interested also in LiDAR data filtering (to obtain from the 
LiDAR point cloud the digital terrain model), we developed  commands 
into GRASS. They have to be used in sequence.


http://grass.osgeo.org/gdp/html_grass64/v.lidar.edgedetection.html
http://grass.osgeo.org/gdp/html_grass64/v.lidar.growing.html
http://grass.osgeo.org/gdp/html_grass64/v.lidar.correction.html
http://grass.osgeo.org/gdp/html_grass64/v.surf.bspline.html

A detailed description is available here:

http://www.foss4g2006.org/getFile.py/access?contribId=48&sessionId=59&resId=7&materialId=slides&confId=1 



a more recent and summarised version can be found here:

http://geomatica.como.polimi.it/corsi/remote_sensing/LiDAR_filtering_with_GRASS-lab4.pdf 



We worked also on calibration of  the filtering parameters (around 20 
parameters) by integrating the USGS UCODE and GRASS. Details are 
available here:


http://www.isprs.org/proceedings/XXXVIII/1_4_7-W5/paper/Brovelli-126.pdf

I hope it helps.

Cheers.
Maria




- "Cameron Shorter"  wrote:


I'm giving a presentation on GeoSpatial Open Source at the
international
Surveyors conference here in Sydney.
http://www.fig2010.com/

I'd like advice on what use cases and Open Source packages I should
focus on during the presentation.
Feedback from Surveyors welcomed.

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] What GeoSpatial Open Source Software do Surveyors use?

2010-04-01 Thread Cameron Shorter
Thanks Chris, it would count if Total Open Station was more stable 
(reported as alpha software on the website).


I'm wanting to convince Open Source skeptics that there is robust Open 
Source Software available for surveyors which they can use right now.


Eg, here is a list of tasks that surveyors regularly perform:

Task 1:
* XXX organisation (ideally big name organisation), uses YYY OS software 
to achieve task.


Task 2:
...

Chris Puttick wrote:

Well we have surveyors trialling Total Open Station into gvSIG and people using Leica's 
software into gvSIG; I guess here is the message that "into GIS" is a move 
forward for all but building survey and that there are open source GIS packages well up 
to the job.

And for building survey? Well, we're doing some work with various open source 
tools to generate dense point clouds from photos; we think the resulting output 
could reach millimetre accuracy using known cameras/lenses and with many shots. 
Photograph, process, measure at your leisure... And a lovely 3D photo-realistic 
model for client as an output too!

Does that count?

Chris

- "Cameron Shorter"  wrote:

  

I'm giving a presentation on GeoSpatial Open Source at the
international 
Surveyors conference here in Sydney.

http://www.fig2010.com/

I'd like advice on what use cases and Open Source packages I should 
focus on during the presentation.

Feedback from Surveyors welcomed.

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Geospatial Solutions Manager
Tel: +61 (0)2 8570 5050
Mob: +61 (0)419 142 254

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] What GeoSpatial Open Source Software do Surveyors use?

2010-04-01 Thread maria . brovelli

Dear Cameron
if you are interested also in LiDAR data filtering (to obtain from the  
LiDAR point cloud the digital terrain model), we developed  commands  
into GRASS. They have to be used in sequence.


http://grass.osgeo.org/gdp/html_grass64/v.lidar.edgedetection.html
http://grass.osgeo.org/gdp/html_grass64/v.lidar.growing.html
http://grass.osgeo.org/gdp/html_grass64/v.lidar.correction.html
http://grass.osgeo.org/gdp/html_grass64/v.surf.bspline.html

A detailed description is available here:

http://www.foss4g2006.org/getFile.py/access?contribId=48&sessionId=59&resId=7&materialId=slides&confId=1

a more recent and summarised version can be found here:

http://geomatica.como.polimi.it/corsi/remote_sensing/LiDAR_filtering_with_GRASS-lab4.pdf

We worked also on calibration of  the filtering parameters (around 20  
parameters) by integrating the USGS UCODE and GRASS. Details are  
available here:


http://www.isprs.org/proceedings/XXXVIII/1_4_7-W5/paper/Brovelli-126.pdf

I hope it helps.

Cheers.
Maria




- "Cameron Shorter"  wrote:


I'm giving a presentation on GeoSpatial Open Source at the
international
Surveyors conference here in Sydney.
http://www.fig2010.com/

I'd like advice on what use cases and Open Source packages I should
focus on during the presentation.
Feedback from Surveyors welcomed.

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Tel: +61 (0)2 8570 5050
Mob: +61 (0)419 142 254

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] What GeoSpatial Open Source Software do Surveyors use?

2010-04-01 Thread Chris Puttick
Well we have surveyors trialling Total Open Station into gvSIG and people using 
Leica's software into gvSIG; I guess here is the message that "into GIS" is a 
move forward for all but building survey and that there are open source GIS 
packages well up to the job.

And for building survey? Well, we're doing some work with various open source 
tools to generate dense point clouds from photos; we think the resulting output 
could reach millimetre accuracy using known cameras/lenses and with many shots. 
Photograph, process, measure at your leisure... And a lovely 3D photo-realistic 
model for client as an output too!

Does that count?

Chris

- "Cameron Shorter"  wrote:

> I'm giving a presentation on GeoSpatial Open Source at the
> international 
> Surveyors conference here in Sydney.
> http://www.fig2010.com/
> 
> I'd like advice on what use cases and Open Source packages I should 
> focus on during the presentation.
> Feedback from Surveyors welcomed.
> 
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> Geospatial Solutions Manager
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> Mob: +61 (0)419 142 254
> 
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[OSGeo-Discuss] What GeoSpatial Open Source Software do Surveyors use?

2010-04-01 Thread Cameron Shorter
I'm giving a presentation on GeoSpatial Open Source at the international 
Surveyors conference here in Sydney.

http://www.fig2010.com/

I'd like advice on what use cases and Open Source packages I should 
focus on during the presentation.

Feedback from Surveyors welcomed.

--
Cameron Shorter
Geospatial Solutions Manager
Tel: +61 (0)2 8570 5050
Mob: +61 (0)419 142 254

Think Globally, Fix Locally
Geospatial Solutions enhanced with Open Standards and Open Source
http://www.lisasoft.com

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