Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] help with catalog of OGC services

2011-10-02 Thread Jeroen Ticheler
Hi John,
You can configure GeoNetwork to automatically create the metadata for you for 
each layer in your services (WMS, WFS, WCS, WPS, SOS are all supported). 
The FOSS4G 2011 workshop (as well as previous ones) focussed on that aspect 
showing how to configure the map server (in this case GeoServer, but the same 
principal applies to MapServer or any other service). The more complete the 
metadata in the OGC service the better the result in the catalog. 

A nice thing of this process is that thumbnails and links to the service are 
all created automatically by GeoNetwork. No need for the GN editor ;-)

You can find the instructions for the workshop here: 
https://eos.geocat.net/download/workshops/foss4g2011/

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Op 3 okt. 2011 om 06:23 heeft John Callahan  het 
volgende geschreven:

> I have about 15 or so OGC services running with MapServer, mostly WMS but a 
> few WFS and hopefully some WCS in the future.   I'd like to have an easy way 
> for users to browse through my services.  Of course, I can manually create a 
> web page listing my services but there should be something better.  A CSW 
> catalog would be nice as traditional desktop GIS users can easily 
> browse/search and add my services directly to their GIS. It'd also be 
> great if my services could be harvested by other catalogs.
> 
> Does anyone know of a way to run a CSW-compliant app by simply adding 
> existing etCapability URLs?  I know about GeoNetwork but it doesn't seem like 
> I need the full GUI or multi-user editor as it's only me (plus I'd rather not 
> have to manually create/maintain records for each service as I think I'd have 
> to with GN.)  Does anyone know if MapServer can perform like a CSW, perhaps 
> by pointing to local map files?  
> 
> In the end, I'm looking for a way to easily maintain a catalog of OGC 
> services through integrating existing services as much as possible.  Thanks 
> for any guidance.
> 
> - John
> 
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RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] Open GIS Overview

2011-10-02 Thread Carsten Troelsgaard

Arnulf, Thanks for your thorough input
CarstenT

> Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2011 15:53:06 +0200
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> Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Open GIS Overview
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> On 02.10.2011 12:50, Carsten Troelsgaard wrote:
> > 
> > Jeroen, it looks very promising - I look forward to delve on it and will
> > surely keep it for further reference.
> > 
> > Arnulf, the osgeo page has links to projects. The tab/ web mapping  has
> > an array of (similar at a glance) web mapping projects (mapbender,
> > mapfish ...). I assume that the projects have functional overlap. Is
> > there any other way to 'evaluate' without scrutinizing all of them
> > individually?
> 
> Hi Carsten,
> there are several comparisons around but none of them will be "endorsed"
> by OSGeo an has the "one right answer". The Open Sourece ecosystm is so
> diverse that there will always be competing projects, each of them good
> in what they do. It is really up to you to find out which one suits your
> needs better. In the end diversity wins. If you opt for an OSGeo project
> you can be sure that the licencing is right and that there is a
> community behind the project.
> 
> A good example might be a mapping framework comparison we gave at a
> FOSS4G conference [1]. 30 slides explain the primary areas of use for
> the projects OpenLayers, Mapbender, GeoMajas and MapFish. They all
> appear under the category "web mapping" but are still different,
> complement or even build on each other.
> 
> Web map servers can be compared in the benchmark / shootout that takes
> place at FOSS4G each year [2]. But again - this is just one aspect of
> the software. Other aspects might include that you have a company around
> your place that can help you [3]. Or you might be looking for
> maintenance contracts to support you when you go online with a massive
> installation.
> 
> ...and if you ask on this list eventually every project will answer and
> let you know that they are the best (the projects that do not answer are
> busy getting better). It is what we are here for. :-)
> 
> Again - if you have ideas how we could better guide new parties through
> the different options let this list know.
> 
> Best regards,
> Arnulf.
> 
> [1]
> http://arnulf.us/FOSS4G_2010#A_typification_of_Open_Source_web_mapping_client_software_and_frameworks
> [2]
> http://www.slideshare.net/gatewaygeomatics.com/wms-performance-shootout-2011/
> [3] http://www.osgeo.org/search_profile
> 
> 
> > Thanks a lot to both of you
> > 
> > CarstenT
> > 
> > 
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[OSGeo-Discuss] help with catalog of OGC services

2011-10-02 Thread John Callahan
I have about 15 or so OGC services running with MapServer, mostly WMS but a
few WFS and hopefully some WCS in the future.   I'd like to have an easy way
for users to browse through my services.  Of course, I can manually create a
web page listing my services but there should be something better.  A CSW
catalog would be nice as traditional desktop GIS users can easily
browse/search and add my services directly to their GIS. It'd also be
great if my services could be harvested by other catalogs.

Does anyone know of a way to run a CSW-compliant app by simply adding
existing etCapability URLs?  I know about GeoNetwork but it doesn't seem
like I need the full GUI or multi-user editor as it's only me (plus I'd
rather not have to manually create/maintain records for each service as I
think I'd have to with GN.)  Does anyone know if MapServer can perform like
a CSW, perhaps by pointing to local map files?

In the end, I'm looking for a way to easily maintain a catalog of OGC
services through integrating existing services as much as possible.  Thanks
for any guidance.

- John

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Open GIS Overview

2011-10-02 Thread Seven (aka Arnulf)
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On 02.10.2011 12:50, Carsten Troelsgaard wrote:
> 
> Jeroen, it looks very promising - I look forward to delve on it and will
> surely keep it for further reference.
> 
> Arnulf, the osgeo page has links to projects. The tab/ web mapping  has
> an array of (similar at a glance) web mapping projects (mapbender,
> mapfish ...). I assume that the projects have functional overlap. Is
> there any other way to 'evaluate' without scrutinizing all of them
> individually?

Hi Carsten,
there are several comparisons around but none of them will be "endorsed"
by OSGeo an has the "one right answer". The Open Sourece ecosystm is so
diverse that there will always be competing projects, each of them good
in what they do. It is really up to you to find out which one suits your
needs better. In the end diversity wins. If you opt for an OSGeo project
you can be sure that the licencing is right and that there is a
community behind the project.

A good example might be a mapping framework comparison we gave at a
FOSS4G conference [1]. 30 slides explain the primary areas of use for
the projects OpenLayers, Mapbender, GeoMajas and MapFish. They all
appear under the category "web mapping" but are still different,
complement or even build on each other.

Web map servers can be compared in the benchmark / shootout that takes
place at FOSS4G each year [2]. But again - this is just one aspect of
the software. Other aspects might include that you have a company around
your place that can help you [3]. Or you might be looking for
maintenance contracts to support you when you go online with a massive
installation.

...and if you ask on this list eventually every project will answer and
let you know that they are the best (the projects that do not answer are
busy getting better). It is what we are here for. :-)

Again - if you have ideas how we could better guide new parties through
the different options let this list know.

Best regards,
Arnulf.

[1]
http://arnulf.us/FOSS4G_2010#A_typification_of_Open_Source_web_mapping_client_software_and_frameworks
[2]
http://www.slideshare.net/gatewaygeomatics.com/wms-performance-shootout-2011/
[3] http://www.osgeo.org/search_profile


> Thanks a lot to both of you
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RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] Open GIS Overview

2011-10-02 Thread Carsten Troelsgaard


Jeroen, it looks very promising - I look forward to delve on it and will surely 
keep it for further reference.
Arnulf, the osgeo page has links to projects. The tab/ web mapping  has an 
array of (similar at a glance) web mapping projects (mapbender, mapfish ...). I 
assume that the projects have functional overlap. Is there any other way to 
'evaluate' without scrutinizing all of them individually?
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Open GIS Overview

2011-10-02 Thread se...@arnulf.us
Carsten, 
you find these most simplistic categories right on the OSGeo web site on the 
right hand: http://osgeo.org 

Another good starting point might be OSGeo Live at: http://live.osgeo.org/ 
which also includes short descriptions in several languages and projects not 
directly related to OSGeo. Another source of information is http://freegis.org/ 
, currently maybe the most comprehensive collection with short descriptions.

Do you think this is enough to get going? If not please suggest what else would 
be helpful. 

Best regards, 
Arnulf

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Subject: [OSGeo-Discuss] Open GIS Overview
Date: Sun, Oct 2, 2011 09:47




Can anyone point me to a sort of OpenGis Overview .. 
anything that can support me in choosing which GIS-tool/s is best suited for a 
particular problem and what sort of problems the available GIS-tools best 
tackles?I have a strong interest in general GIS, and a very limited 
user-experience .. but that will be the situation of meny new potential 
GIS-users. I'm confused as to what tools to take a focus on, in preparation for 
taking on a 'real' but undefined geo-related problem.
I'm not sure weather the following keywords covers all importent components 
that a minimum workable GIS setup contains:Client, Server, Data, Network   If 
these suffice then .. would it be possible to map some of the most important 
(or all) OpenGIS acronyms to these 4 basic components? .. I'm not sure that it 
will solve the problem of overview since a confined programmable consept that a 
'module' constitute may not conform.
I'm trying to get a glimps of the elefant but only find potential snouts, 
tails, knees ... That's atleast what I feel. Would it be possible to pull a 
KIS? (design-principle for 'keep it simple").
Feel free to smile and think "ah, .. another one that doesn't want to do his 
homework!" 

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Open GIS Overview

2011-10-02 Thread Jeroen Ticheler
Hi Carsten,Some years ago I made this graphic to illustrate that, including a legend: http://eos.geocat.net/download/SDI-Architecture.pdf (to big for inclusion in the email)Although there are a few outdated and a few new components around today (OpenLayers is not yet listed in thin-clients for example), I think it is still a good starting point. I'm sure others have made more recent versions also.Kind regards,Jeroen
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On 2 okt. 2011, at 09:47, Carsten Troelsgaard wrote:Can anyone point me to a sort of OpenGis Overview .. anything that can support me in choosing which GIS-tool/s is best suited for a particular problem and what sort of problems the available GIS-tools best tackles?I have a strong interest in general GIS, and a very limited user-experience .. but that will be the situation of meny new potential GIS-users. I'm confused as to what tools to take a focus on, in preparation for taking on a 'real' but undefined geo-related problem.I'm not sure weather the following keywords covers all importent components that a minimum workable GIS setup contains:Client, Server, Data, Network   If these suffice then .. would it be possible to map some of the most important (or all) OpenGIS acronyms to these 4 basic components? .. I'm not sure that it will solve the problem of overview since a confined programmable consept that a 'module' constitute may not conform.I'm trying to get a glimps of the elefant but only find potential snouts, tails, knees ... That's atleast what I feel. Would it be possible to pull a KIS? (design-principle for 'keep it simple").Feel free to smile and think "ah, .. another one that doesn't want to do his homework!" CarstenT___Discuss mailing listDiscuss@lists.osgeo.orghttp://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss___
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2011-10-02 Thread Carsten Troelsgaard


Can anyone point me to a sort of OpenGis Overview .. 
anything that can support me in choosing which GIS-tool/s is best suited for a 
particular problem and what sort of problems the available GIS-tools best 
tackles?I have a strong interest in general GIS, and a very limited 
user-experience .. but that will be the situation of meny new potential 
GIS-users. I'm confused as to what tools to take a focus on, in preparation for 
taking on a 'real' but undefined geo-related problem.
I'm not sure weather the following keywords covers all importent components 
that a minimum workable GIS setup contains:Client, Server, Data, Network   If 
these suffice then .. would it be possible to map some of the most important 
(or all) OpenGIS acronyms to these 4 basic components? .. I'm not sure that it 
will solve the problem of overview since a confined programmable consept that a 
'module' constitute may not conform.
I'm trying to get a glimps of the elefant but only find potential snouts, 
tails, knees ... That's atleast what I feel. Would it be possible to pull a 
KIS? (design-principle for 'keep it simple").
Feel free to smile and think "ah, .. another one that doesn't want to do his 
homework!" 

CarstenT


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