Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Open Source Geospatial Atlas
On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 1:49 AM, Simon Cropper simoncrop...@fossworkflowguides.com wrote: I think it important however that people *do not* use Inkscape, unless of course it is being put up as an fosGIS package. Using Inkscape has come about due to the inherent deficiencies in map production in various packages. Any maps produced for such a book need to be produced solely using the package they are meant to be showcasing. Otherwise the resulting map is not representative of what can be produced using a particular GIS package but rather the artistic skill of the cartographer! [ Can the people discussing Arnulf's public geospatial data committee stuff please change their subject line and start a new thread? thx ] Hi Simon, if I was worried about having too many maps for the atlas then I'd consider putting more restrictions on the entries. However my fear is having too few. Plus it is indeed partly intended to show artistic skill and as long as the work is substantially created using open-source software then I wouldn't reject it. Aspects of commercial cartography are still done outside of commercial GIS - eg by loading Windows Metafiles from a GIS into Adobe Illustrator - and I see no reason why that workflow can't be allowed for Open Source Cartography. I don't think Open Source GIS needs to be Open Source GIS Plus Desktop Publishing. Also, we get to highlight integration between open source projects that is facilitated by Open Standards, and those standards are going beyond spatial standards (such as using SVG to go between Qgis and Inkscape). Barry ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Nomination for Cameron Shorter
Cameron, OSGeo is globally active and there are no rules that members have to be located in a specific region in order to become a Member, Charter Member, Director or to be active in any other role. Board, this is a request from a potential new director asking two questions he would like to get answered before he accepts his nomination. [snip] * Lastly, we should have members of the board who are prepared to travel and this is something I won't be able to fulfil due to my family situation. And as I live in Australia, I work the graveyard shift of the rest of the world, which means awkward meeting slots for some. Before I take on a board position, I will need to ask other board members if they are in a position to work around this. In my opinion this is a no brainer. We are a geospatial organization that is globally active. So it must be possible for the board to act in a global way. Our beautiful planet happens to be sort of a ball and while revolving around it's own axis exposes different regions to the sun resulting at different times. The location of a member cannot not be a criteria of exclusion to contribute. Am I wrong here? Having said that - it makes things more difficult. But we did manage with Venka and Ravi and several OSGeo committees also meet around the clock. My appeal to the board is to confirm that physical location cannot be a criteria not to become an OSGeo director - or simply ignore this message which I will take for a silent confirmation. Cheers, Arnulf On 29/07/2012 5:08 PM, Roald de Wit wrote: On 29/07/12 15:00, Michael P. Gerlek wrote: I am pleased to nominate Cameron Shorter to be a member of the OSGeo Board. Followers of this list will no doubt already be familiar with Cameron: active in this foundation since the very beginning, he chaired the 2009 FOSS4G conference, has served on various OSGeo committees, and has worked on the OSGeo-Live project, among many other contributions. He would surely make a great addition to the board team for the next two years. I'd like to second this! Here are my reasons for supporting Cameron's nomination: Cameron has been active in the OSGeo community since its inception. You may remember Cameron as one of the core developers behind Community Mapbuilder, GeoTools and OpenLayers. More recently he chaired the successful FOSS4G 2009 Conference in Sydney and now he is one of the driving forces behind the OSGeo-Live community. He is a founding charter member of OSGeo and his active participation in many of the OSGeo committees and mailing lists (Discuss, Marketing, Education, FOSS4G, Conference, Incubator, Live-Demo and more) shows his ongoing dedication to OSGeo. I have had the pleasure of working for and with him in a both a professional context, as well as being members of the Community Mapbuilder, OpenLayers and OSGeo-Live projects. His commitment to the community and and open standards are exemplary. Cameron's experience, vision and dedication would make him a great addition to the board. Regards, Roald ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss -- Exploring Space, Time and Mind http://arnulf.us ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[OSGeo-Discuss] Geodata Committee reboot: (was: Fwd: Re: Open Source Geospatial Atlas)
Folks, we have been requested to move our discussion under it's own thread. We can do even better than that because we already have a mailing list in place and 328 members subscribed. But only four mails have been sent through this list in the past year and none since December 2011 which qualifies the committee as dead in the water. I suggest we reboot and continue here. The next mail goes to geodata exclusively, so feel free to join this list: http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/geodata Best regards, Arnulf Original Message Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Open Source Geospatial Atlas Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 01:42:56 +0300 From: Dimitris Kotzinos kotz...@csd.uoc.gr To: discuss@lists.osgeo.org Dear all, I would like to second Arnulf's suggestions for the committee and the white paper. Slight amendment : let's name it Open Geospatial Data Committee. I'd be happy to participate. Best, Dimitris Really good idea, and great to see so many interested. I offer to act as data licensing advisor / clearinghouse and add what we learn from the process to the OSGeo Wiki. Step one of my planned Public Geospatial Data Committee revival. Step two will be an OSGeo White Paper defining Open Data, VGI, Crowdsourced and so on geospatial data. If there is interest... Cheers, Arnulf ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[OSGeo-Discuss] Open Nottingham bursaries for OSGIS 2012
We are pleased to announce 5 Open Nottingham bursaries for excellent students to participate in OSGIS 2012. This is part of our strong commitment to actively support, widen and promote Open Nottingham initiative. In implementing the Open Nottingham programme, the University of Nottingham has strategically embraced an agenda of open access to teaching. More details of Open Nottingham at http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/open/opennottingham.aspx The Open Nottingham bursaries will cover the cost of one day registration fees to participate in OSGIS 2012 and are open for students from all UK universities (both postgraduate and undergraduate) . Applicants should email their one page CV and brief statement of their open source research to suchith.an...@nottingham.ac.ukmailto:suchith.an...@nottingham.ac.ukwith subject header Open Nottingham bursary application. The deadline for application is 6th August 2012. The winners will be notified on 10th August 2012. This year's OSGIS Keynote presentations are: # 2011: the first Open census and beyond? Prof. David Martin (University of Southampton) # What a long strange trip it's been - Steven Feldman (KnowWhere Consulting and FOSS4G 2013 Chair) # Ordnance Survey - embracing the open source opportunity - Ian James ( Chief Architect, Information Systems, Ordnance Survey Technical Architect, UK Location Programme) OSGIS 2012 Workshops include # How to setup and use an SDI in 3 hours- Geocat (Netherlands) # Getting started with GeoServer and INSPIRE services - GeoSolutions (Italy) # Educational use of OSGeo Live - Ari Jolma, Aalto Uni (Finland) # Advanced GeoNetwork - Geocat (Netherlands) # OSM-GB services and data- NGI (UK) More details at http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/osgis/home.aspx We look forward to welcoming you for joining us in our vision and mission on further building up Open Source, Open Standards, Open data research. Best wishes, Suchith Dr Suchith Anand Nottingham Geospatial Institute Nottingham Geospatial Building University of Nottingham NG7 2 TU Tel: (0)115 82 32750 http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/~lgzwww/contacts/staffPages/SuchithAnand/Suchith%20Anand.htm http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/ngi/research/geospatial-science/geospatial-science.aspx http://elogeo.nottingham.ac.uk/ http://ica-opensource.scg.ulaval.ca/ http://opensourcegeospatial.icaci.org/ Leading Open Geospatial Science through ICA Commission on Open Source Geospatial Technologies Mission - Building up Open Source, Open Standards, Open Data research for bridging the digital divide This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation.___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Open Source Geospatial Atlas
Oops folks, it's fossgisbrasil.com.br. We are publishing each quarter; Thanks for the complements. On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 6:46 AM, Nathan Woodrow madman...@gmail.com wrote: Barry, This sounds like a good idea, I would be happy to contribute something. I have two ESRI map books at work that I sometimes use to get an idea on how other people visualize different data sets. - Nathan On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 5:26 PM, Barry Rowlingson b.rowling...@lancaster.ac.uk wrote: On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 1:49 AM, Simon Cropper simoncrop...@fossworkflowguides.com wrote: I think it important however that people *do not* use Inkscape, unless of course it is being put up as an fosGIS package. Using Inkscape has come about due to the inherent deficiencies in map production in various packages. Any maps produced for such a book need to be produced solely using the package they are meant to be showcasing. Otherwise the resulting map is not representative of what can be produced using a particular GIS package but rather the artistic skill of the cartographer! [ Can the people discussing Arnulf's public geospatial data committee stuff please change their subject line and start a new thread? thx ] Hi Simon, if I was worried about having too many maps for the atlas then I'd consider putting more restrictions on the entries. However my fear is having too few. Plus it is indeed partly intended to show artistic skill and as long as the work is substantially created using open-source software then I wouldn't reject it. Aspects of commercial cartography are still done outside of commercial GIS - eg by loading Windows Metafiles from a GIS into Adobe Illustrator - and I see no reason why that workflow can't be allowed for Open Source Cartography. I don't think Open Source GIS needs to be Open Source GIS Plus Desktop Publishing. Also, we get to highlight integration between open source projects that is facilitated by Open Standards, and those standards are going beyond spatial standards (such as using SVG to go between Qgis and Inkscape). Barry ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss -- George R. C. Silva Desenvolvimento em GIS http://geoprocessamento.net http://blog.geoprocessamento.net ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[OSGeo-Discuss] FW: I LatinOSGIS Congress - Call for papers
From: Indira Yadira Nolivos Alvarez [mailto:inoli...@fiec.espol.edu.ec] Sent: 30 July 2012 13:17 To: maria.brove...@polimi.it; s...@ryerson.ca; ragha...@media.osaka-cu.ac.jp; b.veenend...@exchange.curtin.edu.au; suza...@sfu.ca; rafael.mor...@ucdenver.edu; gbarran...@gmail.com; hh_bern...@hotmail.com; helena_mitas...@ncsu.edu; suchith.an...@nottingham.ac.uk; massimiliano.cann...@supsi.ch; arn...@osgeo.org; patrick.ho...@nasa.gov; vas...@geo-spatial.org; serena.coet...@up.ac.za; krolinar...@gmail.com; vol...@unex.es; vola...@gmail.com; giorgio.zamb...@polimi.it; jmcke...@gatewaygeomatics.com; grol...@opengeo.org; jgs9...@gmail.com; lbermu...@opengeospatial.org; Mauricio Miranda; mmad...@uga.edu Cc: Sergio Flores; enava...@espol.edu.ec; Carlos Martillo Bustamante; Paola Almeida Subject: I LatinOSGIS Congress - Call for papers The First Latin America Congress of Free and Open Source GIS - I Congreso Latinoamericano de Aplicación de Sistemas de Información Geográfica (SIG) de código libre y abierto October, 22-23 2012 - Guayaquil, Ecuador First call for papers The awareness about the necessity of integrating, if not basing, the most of environmental and territorial analyses with geography and mapping has been growing at every administrative and governmental level. In the meanwhile the success of application, like for instance Google Earth, demonstrates the dramatic curiosity and active interest of people with respect to the space in which they live. Lowering barriers to contributing, making easier the interaction and the possibility of participation will result in more photos, maps and other pieces of information uploaded and therefore plays an important role in that success. The availability of richer information (from institutional and/or crowdsourced data) can help decision-makers in their activity. Free and Open Source Tools and Applications are rapidly increasing in number and quality. Many and different actors are involved in such a kind of process: large and small companies, professional practitioners, public agencies, universities, research centers but also simple map lovers. The conference aims at foster interdisciplinary discussions in all aspects of the geospatial and free and open source domains. The conference will be organized in a way to promote networking between the participants, to initiate and favour discussions regarding cutting-edge technologies in the field, to exchange research ideas and to promote national and international collaboration. Presentations should cover aspects of the use or development of open source GIS. Some topics of interest are: * State of development of free and open source GIS * Case studies and applications of free and open source GIS * Migration from proprietary to free and open source solutions: problems, advantages, drawbacks The conference organizers invite researchers, scholars, students, professionals, vendors, users, managers and decision makers to present and discuss the issues and latest trends in free and open source geospatial technologies and applications. Important dates Deadline for abstract submission August, 17 Notification of acceptance September, 17 Deadline for registration and payment of at least one author of an accepted paper (to be confirmed in the program) September, 28 Deadline for early bird registration and payment September, 28 Conference venue October, 22-23 Congress website www.fiec.espol.edu.ec/LatinOSGIShttp://www.fiec.espol.edu.ec/LatinOSGIS -- Indira Nolivos Alvarez, PhD. Local Coordinator LatinOSGIS Congress Escuela Superior Politécnica del Litoral Telf.: (+593) 4 2269807tel:%28%2B593%29%204%202269807 This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation.___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Open Source Geospatial Atlas
I think it important however that people *do not* use Inkscape, unless of course it is being put up as an fosGIS package. Using Inkscape has come about due to the inherent deficiencies in map production in various packages. Any maps produced for such a book need to be produced solely using the package they are meant to be showcasing. Otherwise the resulting map is not representative of what can be produced using a particular GIS package but rather the artistic skill of the cartographer! Simon, I strongly disagree here. One of the best things about Open Source tools is that they often follow the Unix Philosophy of being able to have very task specific tools. Cartography is most certainly a very different task than data analysis and I think that tools like InkScape are a very important part of the toolbox. While I do agree that we need to do a better job integrating better cartographic tools into individual pieces of fosGIS packages, it is equally important to me that we create the linkages to make it easier to use complementary tools like InkScape as well. David ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Open Source Geospatial Atlas
On Jul 30, 2012, at 10:28 AM, David William Bitner bit...@gyttja.org wrote: I think it important however that people *do not* use Inkscape, unless of course it is being put up as an fosGIS package. Using Inkscape has come about due to the inherent deficiencies in map production in various packages. Any maps produced for such a book need to be produced solely using the package they are meant to be showcasing. Otherwise the resulting map is not representative of what can be produced using a particular GIS package but rather the artistic skill of the cartographer! Simon, I strongly disagree here. One of the best things about Open Source tools is that they often follow the Unix Philosophy of being able to have very task specific tools. Cartography is most certainly a very different task than data analysis and I think that tools like InkScape are a very important part of the toolbox. While I do agree that we need to do a better job integrating better cartographic tools into individual pieces of fosGIS packages, it is equally important to me that we create the linkages to make it easier to use complementary tools like InkScape as well. Agree with David completely. For example, I can use Perl to create spatial data, but I would not use Perl to create a map. Use the best tool for the job. -- Puneet Kishor___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Open Source Geospatial Atlas
I concur with David here. We publish numerous maps and always use Illustrator (or other design tools) in the workflow process. We are an Arc shop for the map publication work (although I have been able to get QGIS involved in a few places) and have submitted maps to the ESRI Map Books. We just wouldn't publish a map without fine-tuning it in some other design software, regardless of the GIS used. I guess it depends on whether you are showcasing a list of technical features fosGIS software can do, or a cartographically based map product. As long as the software used is clearly listed, I don't think it's realistic to restrict to only the GIS software when producing an atlas. - John On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 10:28 AM, David William Bitner bit...@gyttja.orgwrote: I think it important however that people *do not* use Inkscape, unless of course it is being put up as an fosGIS package. Using Inkscape has come about due to the inherent deficiencies in map production in various packages. Any maps produced for such a book need to be produced solely using the package they are meant to be showcasing. Otherwise the resulting map is not representative of what can be produced using a particular GIS package but rather the artistic skill of the cartographer! Simon, I strongly disagree here. One of the best things about Open Source tools is that they often follow the Unix Philosophy of being able to have very task specific tools. Cartography is most certainly a very different task than data analysis and I think that tools like InkScape are a very important part of the toolbox. While I do agree that we need to do a better job integrating better cartographic tools into individual pieces of fosGIS packages, it is equally important to me that we create the linkages to make it easier to use complementary tools like InkScape as well. David ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] The importance of a project's license
And how detrimental the license change exercise has been to the project and its community... -Original Message- From: discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org [mailto:discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org] On Behalf Of Lester Caine Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2012 2:46 AM To: OSGeo Discussions Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] The importance of a project's license Markus Neteler wrote: A project can decide what makes the most sense for them. Note that for long-term projects a license change is rather difficult to realize (especially if older contributors are no longer traceable..). Just check out how long it's taking on openstreetmap ... -- Lester Caine - G8HFL - Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=contact L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://lsces.co.uk EnquirySolve - http://enquirysolve.com/ Model Engineers Digital Workshop - http://medw.co.uk Rainbow Digital Media - http://rainbowdigitalmedia.co.uk ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[OSGeo-Discuss] Board Nomination: Hirofumi Hayashi
Hello OSGeo community, I am very happy to nominate Hirofumi Hayashi[1] for the Board of Directors of OSGeo. Hayashi is a super-active member of the OSGeo-Japan chapter, tirelessly working on planning and promoting FOSS4G events in that region. He is a member of the OSGeo-Japan Board, and anyone who has ever attended a FOSS4G-Japan event has been touched by his efforts, and of course his smile. At the project-level Hayashi is a member of the ZOO Project PSC (often works late at night to maintain its servers), has also committed several enhancements to the OSGeo4W installer, and contributed translation changes in several OSGeo projects. I believe Hayashi will be a great voice from the vibrant Japan chapter. Oh, I must not forget: Hayashi's daughter Natsuki was the now-famous hand model used in the FOSS4G-Japan 2008 mola-mola video! [2] [1] http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Hhayashi [2] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UpHilajQkGM -jeff ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Board Nomination: Hirofumi Hayashi
What super news! Hirofumi Hayashi would be a great representative for Japan and open source geospatial in general, I heartily second this nomination! P. On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 10:46 AM, Jeff McKenna jmcke...@gatewaygeomatics.com wrote: Hello OSGeo community, I am very happy to nominate Hirofumi Hayashi[1] for the Board of Directors of OSGeo. Hayashi is a super-active member of the OSGeo-Japan chapter, tirelessly working on planning and promoting FOSS4G events in that region. He is a member of the OSGeo-Japan Board, and anyone who has ever attended a FOSS4G-Japan event has been touched by his efforts, and of course his smile. At the project-level Hayashi is a member of the ZOO Project PSC (often works late at night to maintain its servers), has also committed several enhancements to the OSGeo4W installer, and contributed translation changes in several OSGeo projects. I believe Hayashi will be a great voice from the vibrant Japan chapter. Oh, I must not forget: Hayashi's daughter Natsuki was the now-famous hand model used in the FOSS4G-Japan 2008 mola-mola video! [2] [1] http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Hhayashi [2] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UpHilajQkGM -jeff ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] MapIgniter Project
Hi Marco, thanks for sharing your project. I was waiting for the announce :) I'm going to download it right now and give it a look. Having work with Kohana I'm glad to see a project with CI. I will give you my feedback as soon as I setup a demo project. I'm going out for holidays this week, so I don't think I will test it before half august. cheers, giovanni ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] MapIgniter Project
I've forgot to ask an important thing: are you going to make a public SCM repository? It would very important to include the community in testing, giving feedback and, eventually, future development of the project. giovanni 2012/7/30 G. Allegri gioha...@gmail.com Hi Marco, thanks for sharing your project. I was waiting for the announce :) I'm going to download it right now and give it a look. Having work with Kohana I'm glad to see a project with CI. I will give you my feedback as soon as I setup a demo project. I'm going out for holidays this week, so I don't think I will test it before half august. cheers, giovanni ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] The importance of a project's license
On 07/27/2012 10:27 AM, Seven (aka Arnulf) wrote: On 07/27/2012 11:45 AM, Mateusz Loskot wrote: On 27 July 2012 05:55, Alex Mandel tech_...@wildintellect.com wrote: This is a really interesting debate. Reading the links provided it also appears to be a mixed bag about acceptance of LGPL of various firms and I'm also sure many of us can name firms that have no issue shipping LGPL components. GPL is dying, of natural causes. http://ostatic.com/blog/the-top-licenses-on-github Best regards, Another interesting effect is the growing interest of other organizations in geospatial software, currently mainly on the library side of things. Current example is GeoTools and GeoToolKit and Eclipse and Apache respectively. It seems that this is a natural result of the commoditization of geospatial functions and features and their dissemination into standard IT. In coming years we will see less and less distinguishable and openly competing geospatial projects but more and more geospatial tools become a regular part of software distributions. We have already seen this happen in a way with GDAL/OGR which is being used all over the place. Just like Oracle has a WMS viewer built in installing PostgreSQL already has PostGIS - and may eventually also ship with MapServer and FeatureServer (or whatever makes the race) and there is no more need for a separate installation / configuration. Not sure where this leads us and this is just off the top of my head, but might be interesting to have a conversation about anyway. Cheers, Arnulf Arnulf, I think you may be right about geospatial software moving into main stream IT. Frankly when you see big software companies like Microsoft, IBM, Apple, Oracle, and others in the space then it's a good hint the shift is well under way. The other powerful trend is pragmatic embracing of open source on the part of companies. When companies like Microsoft, ESRI, and others - long known for strong proprietary views - are working hard to embrace open source then it's clear something significant is taking place. As companies want a closer relationship with open source projects and vice versa, LocationTech http://wiki.eclipse.org/LocationTech is a strong option given Eclipse's governance + history the people involved. Related, for those that haven't caught it already, see this article: http://radar.oreilly.com/2012/07/open-source-won.html Andrew ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Open Source Geospatial Atlas
On 30/07/12 02:07, Barry Rowlingson wrote: Okay, next steps - can I start a page on the OSgeo wiki? What do I need to get an official OSgeo stamp of approval and use the logo? Barry, Yes, creating (or extending) a wiki is a good idea. I think you ideas fit in well with the Marketing Pipleline and Marketing Artefact pages we started a while back, alongside the LiveDVD, OSGeo4W, FOSS4G Conferences, etc: http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Marketing_Pipeline http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Marketing_Artefacts I suggest you then write a wiki defining how someone can contribute to the Geospatial Atlas. Something like: http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Disc#How_to_add_a_project_to_OSGeoLive -- Cameron Shorter Geospatial Solutions Manager Tel: +61 (0)2 8570 5050 Mob: +61 (0)419 142 254 Think Globally, Fix Locally Geospatial Solutions enhanced with Open Standards and Open Source http://www.lisasoft.com ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] MapIgniter Project
Marco answered offlist. We have talked about the usefulnes of having a public SCM and a ticketing system. He's almost convinced :D Let's see if this project will attract a team to work on it. Good luck! giovanni 2012/7/30 G. Allegri gioha...@gmail.com I've forgot to ask an important thing: are you going to make a public SCM repository? It would very important to include the community in testing, giving feedback and, eventually, future development of the project. giovanni 2012/7/30 G. Allegri gioha...@gmail.com Hi Marco, thanks for sharing your project. I was waiting for the announce :) I'm going to download it right now and give it a look. Having work with Kohana I'm glad to see a project with CI. I will give you my feedback as soon as I setup a demo project. I'm going out for holidays this week, so I don't think I will test it before half august. cheers, giovanni ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Board Nomination: Hirofumi Hayashi
On 2012/07/31 2:49, Paul Ramsey wrote: What super news! Hirofumi Hayashi would be a great representative for Japan and open source geospatial in general, I heartily second this nomination! P. I express my strong support for the candidature of Hayashi-san for the upcoming OSGeo Board Election. Hayashi-san has played a stellar not only in spreading OSGeo cause and technology but also greatly helped in building a vibrant OSGeo.JP community. He has also authored books on OSGeo technologies [e.g. 1] , is one of the main organizer of FOSS4G events in Japan also responsible for the great animation videos for teh foss4g events [e.g. 2, 3] [1] http://www.junkudo.co.jp/detail.jsp?ID=0112678447 [2] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UpHilajQkGM [3] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UpHilajQkGM Venka On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 10:46 AM, Jeff McKenna jmcke...@gatewaygeomatics.com wrote: Hello OSGeo community, I am very happy to nominate Hirofumi Hayashi[1] for the Board of Directors of OSGeo. Hayashi is a super-active member of the OSGeo-Japan chapter, tirelessly working on planning and promoting FOSS4G events in that region. He is a member of the OSGeo-Japan Board, and anyone who has ever attended a FOSS4G-Japan event has been touched by his efforts, and of course his smile. At the project-level Hayashi is a member of the ZOO Project PSC (often works late at night to maintain its servers), has also committed several enhancements to the OSGeo4W installer, and contributed translation changes in several OSGeo projects. I believe Hayashi will be a great voice from the vibrant Japan chapter. Oh, I must not forget: Hayashi's daughter Natsuki was the now-famous hand model used in the FOSS4G-Japan 2008 mola-mola video! [2] [1] http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Hhayashi [2] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UpHilajQkGM -jeff ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Open Source Geospatial Atlas
On 31/07/12 00:53, John Callahan wrote: I concur with David here. We publish numerous maps and always use Illustrator (or other design tools) in the workflow process. We are an Arc shop for the map publication work (although I have been able to get QGIS involved in a few places) and have submitted maps to the ESRI Map Books. We just wouldn't publish a map without fine-tuning it in some other design software, regardless of the GIS used. I guess it depends on whether you are showcasing a list of technical features fosGIS software can do, or a cartographically based map product. As long as the software used is clearly listed, I don't think it's realistic to restrict to only the GIS software when producing an atlas. - John On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 10:28 AM, David William Bitner bit...@gyttja.org mailto:bit...@gyttja.org wrote: I think it important however that people *do not* use Inkscape, unless of course it is being put up as an fosGIS package. Using Inkscape has come about due to the inherent deficiencies in map production in various packages. Any maps produced for such a book need to be produced solely using the package they are meant to be showcasing. Otherwise the resulting map is not representative of what can be produced using a particular GIS package but rather the artistic skill of the cartographer! Simon, I strongly disagree here. One of the best things about Open Source tools is that they often follow the Unix Philosophy of being able to have very task specific tools. Cartography is most certainly a very different task than data analysis and I think that tools like InkScape are a very important part of the toolbox. While I do agree that we need to do a better job integrating better cartographic tools into individual pieces of fosGIS packages, it is equally important to me that we create the linkages to make it easier to use complementary tools like InkScape as well. David ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org mailto:Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss Hi Guys, I agree totally with everything that has been said. I don't have a problem with using multiple applications to conduct my GIS work. I do all the time. I suppose the issue is what the purpose of the Atlas will be. To promote fosGIS or promote Open Source. I was under the impression it was the former and so I suggested not using Inkscape. I presumed, the Atlas would illustrate what most mere mortals could do with fosGIS rather than show what some creative genius can achieve. If however the task is to create beautiful maps using whatever open source package comes to hand then by all means incorporate Inkscape manipulated images -- it seems to be the preferred tool for manipulating maps generated by a whole raft of fosGIS packages. -- Cheers Simon Simon Cropper - Open Content Creator Free and Open Source Software Workflow Guides Introduction http://www.fossworkflowguides.com GIS Packages http://www.fossworkflowguides.com/gis bash / Pythonhttp://www.fossworkflowguides.com/scripting ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
