Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Copy Left and Copyright for Geospatial software
Ravi, In India software does have copyright but is not patentable (will not go into details of why it is not patentable in India). Copyright is automatic from the time the work is created. Also, as Puneet points out the original author does have a copyright and it can be enforced by the author if need. To be on the safe side, one can formally register the work or its extracts, and such reregistration helps in a court of law. Pls see http://copyright.gov.in and its FAQ section. And afaik, Open Source licenses suitably modify and make it open for use,copying and modification of the software/tool (essentially giving the four freedoms that FSF and all others talk about) and don't alter copyright. My views are based on what I shared at a CII conclave on IP Copyrights a few years ago. - Rajan -- 1. Please use VRGeo.in (http://vrgeo.in) - the Collaborative Mapping Platform for Researchers and All -- K S Rajan, Ph.D. Head, Lab for Spatial Informatics, Associate Professor, International Institute of Information Technology Gachibowli, Hyderabad 500032, Andhra Pradesh, India Tel: (+91-40)6653 1276 Fax: (+91-40)6653 1413 E-mail: ra...@iiit.ac.in GeoLocation: 17.4454 N, 78.3503 E - Original Message - On Oct 16, 2013, at 11:26 PM, Ravi Kumar ravivundavall...@yahoo.com wrote: How many of the OSGeo Softwares are Copy Left and Copy Right Pl give a link where the rationale is explained especially for OSGeo. I am aware that Free Software Foundation has things explained. This is to a great extent true only in countries like USA where software can be copy righted. In many countries software does not come under Copyright. Example: India. The above is incorrect. As per Section 13(1)(a) of the Indian Copyright Act, 1957, copyright subsists in original literary, dramatic and musical works: 13. Works in which copyright subsists. (1) Subject to the provisions of this section and the other provisions of this Act, copyright shall subsist throughout India in the following classes of works, that is to say,- (a) original literary, dramatic, musical and artistic works; As per Section 2(o) of the (Indian) Copyright Act, 1957; literary works include computer programmes. The exact text of the section is: (o) literary work includes computer programmes, tables and compilations including computer data bases ; -- Puneet Kishor Science and Data Policy, Creative Commons ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[OSGeo-Discuss] report smeSpire
Dear List, smeSpire have recently published on their website a report in which they explicitly cite GFOSS and their strategy in this regard. http://www.smespire.eu/wp-content/uploads/downloads/2013/10/smeSpire_WorkshopsReport.pdf -- Best regards, Dr. Margherita DI LEO Scientific / technical project officer European Commission - DG JRC Institute for Environment and Sustainability (IES) Via Fermi, 2749 I-21027 Ispra (VA) - Italy - TP 261 Tel. +39 0332 78 3600 margherita.di-...@jrc.ec.europa.eu Disclaimer: The views expressed are purely those of the writer and may not in any circumstance be regarded as stating an official position of the European Commission. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Inaugural webinar of ”Open Geospatial Science Applications” webinar series on 18th October
Hi! looks like the system requirements for the platform chosen for the webinar do not support Linux.. I just received the confirmation email with the specs. I mean, are you kidding? :-/ On Sat, Oct 12, 2013 at 10:46 AM, Suchith Anand suchith.an...@nottingham.ac.uk wrote: Dear All, The ICA-OSGeo Lab Network and MundoGeo are now pleased to inform the inaugural webinar of ”Open Geospatial Science Applications” webinar series on 18th October. The webinars will be open and free to all on first come register basis. The first webinar will be on OSGeo Live for Education by Jeremy Morley (University of Nottingham). This first webinar will address the theme OSGeo Live for Education. With free registration, this event is appropriate for all who are interested in knowing more about the ICA-OSGeo Lab Network and its education activities. In addition to giving an overview of OSGeo Live , Jeremy will be sharing his experiences of using the OSGeo Live system for his MSc teaching in GIS at the University of Nottingham. OSGeo Live 7.0 features more than fifty open source, standards compliant geospatial desktop applications, web applications and frameworks. A complete installation kit and high-quality sample data in multiple industry standard formats are included. It is composed entirely of free software, allowing it to be freely distributed, duplicated and passed around. Details at http://live.osgeo.org/en/index.html Attendees will be able to interact with the speakers by sending their comments and questions through chat. All attendees of this web seminar will receive certificates for their participation. Webinar: OSGeo Live for Education Date:Friday, October 18, 2013 Time: 14:00 - 15:00 UTC Reserve your Webinar place now at: https://www2.gotomeeting.com/register/529291674 After registering you will receive a confirmation email containing information about joining the Webinar. The schedule of webinars for this year are: Oct 18th, 2013 @14:00 UTC – OSGeo Live for Education (Jeremy Morley, University of Nottingham) Nov 7th, 2013 @14:00 UTC – Open Geo Science (Patrick Bell et al, British Geological Survey) Dec 10th, 2013 @14:00 UTC – Free and Open Source Software for Geospatial Applications (FOSS4G): A mature alternative in the geospatial technologies arena ( Maria Brovelli and Rafael Moreno) The webinars will also be recorded for the benefit of the wider community and made available at MundoGeo website and our new “Geo for All” website that the University of Southampton are now building (to be released next week ). All are welcome. Best wishes, Suchith This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss -- Best regards, Dr. Margherita DI LEO Scientific / technical project officer European Commission - DG JRC Institute for Environment and Sustainability (IES) Via Fermi, 2749 I-21027 Ispra (VA) - Italy - TP 261 Tel. +39 0332 78 3600 margherita.di-...@jrc.ec.europa.eu Disclaimer: The views expressed are purely those of the writer and may not in any circumstance be regarded as stating an official position of the European Commission. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Inaugural webinar of ”Open Geospatial Science Applications” webinar series on 18th October
On 18/10/13 14:57, Margherita Di Leo wrote: Hi! looks like the system requirements for the platform chosen for the webinar do not support Linux.. I just received the confirmation email with the specs. I mean, are you kidding? I'm experiencing the same problem :( Lluís :-/ On Sat, Oct 12, 2013 at 10:46 AM, Suchith Anand suchith.an...@nottingham.ac.uk mailto:suchith.an...@nottingham.ac.uk wrote: Dear All, The ICA-OSGeo Lab Network and MundoGeo are now pleased to inform the inaugural webinar of ”Open Geospatial Science Applications” webinar series on 18th October. The webinars will be open and free to all on first come register basis. The first webinar will be on OSGeo Live for Education by Jeremy Morley (University of Nottingham). This first webinar will address the theme OSGeo Live for Education. With free registration, this event is appropriate for all who are interested in knowing more about the ICA-OSGeo Lab Network and its education activities. In addition to giving an overview of OSGeo Live , Jeremy will be sharing his experiences of using the OSGeo Live system for his MSc teaching in GIS at the University of Nottingham. OSGeo Live 7.0 features more than fifty open source, standards compliant geospatial desktop applications, web applications and frameworks. A complete installation kit and high-quality sample data in multiple industry standard formats are included. It is composed entirely of free software, allowing it to be freely distributed, duplicated and passed around. Details at http://live.osgeo.org/en/index.html Attendees will be able to interact with the speakers by sending their comments and questions through chat. All attendees of this web seminar will receive certificates for their participation. Webinar: OSGeo Live for Education Date:Friday, October 18, 2013 Time: 14:00 - 15:00 UTC Reserve your Webinar place now at: https://www2.gotomeeting.com/register/529291674 After registering you will receive a confirmation email containing information about joining the Webinar. The schedule of webinars for this year are: Oct 18th, 2013 @14:00 UTC – OSGeo Live for Education (Jeremy Morley, University of Nottingham) Nov 7th, 2013 @14:00 UTC – Open Geo Science (Patrick Bell et al, British Geological Survey) Dec 10th, 2013 @14:00 UTC – Free and Open Source Software for Geospatial Applications (FOSS4G): A mature alternative in the geospatial technologies arena ( Maria Brovelli and Rafael Moreno) The webinars will also be recorded for the benefit of the wider community and made available at MundoGeo website and our new “Geo for All” website that the University of Southampton are now building (to be released next week ). All are welcome. Best wishes, Suchith This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org mailto:Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss -- Best regards, Dr. Margherita DI LEO Scientific / technical project officer European Commission - DG JRC Institute for Environment and Sustainability (IES) Via Fermi, 2749 I-21027 Ispra (VA) - Italy - TP 261 Tel. +39 0332 78 3600 margherita.di-...@jrc.ec.europa.eu mailto:margherita.di-...@jrc.ec.europa.eu Disclaimer: The views expressed are purely those of the writer and may not in any circumstance be regarded as stating an official position of the European Commission. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss -- Lluís Vicens SIGTE - Universitat de Girona Pl. Ferrater Mora, 1 17071 Girona ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Inaugural webinar of ”Open Geospatial Science Applications” webinar series on 18th October
On Oct 18, 2013, at 8:57 AM, Margherita Di Leo dileomargher...@gmail.com wrote: Hi! looks like the system requirements for the platform chosen for the webinar do not support Linux.. I just received the confirmation email with the specs. I mean, are you kidding? :-/ Madi The web viewer might work see http://support.citrixonline.com/en_US/gotomeeting/all_files/GTM130019#Linux Norman On Sat, Oct 12, 2013 at 10:46 AM, Suchith Anand suchith.an...@nottingham.ac.uk wrote: Dear All, The ICA-OSGeo Lab Network and MundoGeo are now pleased to inform the inaugural webinar of ”Open Geospatial Science Applications” webinar series on 18th October. The webinars will be open and free to all on first come register basis. The first webinar will be on OSGeo Live for Education by Jeremy Morley (University of Nottingham). This first webinar will address the theme OSGeo Live for Education. With free registration, this event is appropriate for all who are interested in knowing more about the ICA-OSGeo Lab Network and its education activities. In addition to giving an overview of OSGeo Live , Jeremy will be sharing his experiences of using the OSGeo Live system for his MSc teaching in GIS at the University of Nottingham. OSGeo Live 7.0 features more than fifty open source, standards compliant geospatial desktop applications, web applications and frameworks. A complete installation kit and high-quality sample data in multiple industry standard formats are included. It is composed entirely of free software, allowing it to be freely distributed, duplicated and passed around. Details at http://live.osgeo.org/en/index.html Attendees will be able to interact with the speakers by sending their comments and questions through chat. All attendees of this web seminar will receive certificates for their participation. Webinar: OSGeo Live for Education Date:Friday, October 18, 2013 Time: 14:00 - 15:00 UTC Reserve your Webinar place now at: https://www2.gotomeeting.com/register/529291674 After registering you will receive a confirmation email containing information about joining the Webinar. The schedule of webinars for this year are: Oct 18th, 2013 @14:00 UTC – OSGeo Live for Education (Jeremy Morley, University of Nottingham) Nov 7th, 2013 @14:00 UTC – Open Geo Science (Patrick Bell et al, British Geological Survey) Dec 10th, 2013 @14:00 UTC – Free and Open Source Software for Geospatial Applications (FOSS4G): A mature alternative in the geospatial technologies arena ( Maria Brovelli and Rafael Moreno) The webinars will also be recorded for the benefit of the wider community and made available at MundoGeo website and our new “Geo for All” website that the University of Southampton are now building (to be released next week ). All are welcome. Best wishes, Suchith This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss -- Best regards, Dr. Margherita DI LEO Scientific / technical project officer European Commission - DG JRC Institute for Environment and Sustainability (IES) Via Fermi, 2749 I-21027 Ispra (VA) - Italy - TP 261 Tel. +39 0332 78 3600 margherita.di-...@jrc.ec.europa.eu Disclaimer: The views expressed are purely those of the writer and may not in any circumstance be regarded as stating an official position of the European Commission. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Inaugural webinar of ”Open Geospatial Science Applications” webinar series on 18th October
On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 3:05 PM, Norman Vine n...@cape.com wrote: On Oct 18, 2013, at 8:57 AM, Margherita Di Leo dileomargher...@gmail.com wrote: Hi! looks like the system requirements for the platform chosen for the webinar do not support Linux.. I just received the confirmation email with the specs. I mean, are you kidding? :-/ Madi The web viewer might work see http://support.citrixonline.com/en_US/gotomeeting/all_files/GTM130019#Linux Norman Hey Norman unfortunately it doesn't. I got this message: This system isn't supported Joining a session from this computer's OS or web browser isn't supported. Please view the GoToWebinar system requirementshttp://support.citrixonline.com/webinar/all_files/G2W010003 . :-( Thanks anyway madi -- Best regards, Dr. Margherita DI LEO Scientific / technical project officer European Commission - DG JRC Institute for Environment and Sustainability (IES) Via Fermi, 2749 I-21027 Ispra (VA) - Italy - TP 261 Tel. +39 0332 78 3600 margherita.di-...@jrc.ec.europa.eu Disclaimer: The views expressed are purely those of the writer and may not in any circumstance be regarded as stating an official position of the European Commission. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Inaugural webinar of ”Open Geospatial Science Applications” webinar series on 18th October
On 18/10/13 15:05, Norman Vine wrote: On Oct 18, 2013, at 8:57 AM, Margherita Di Leo dileomargher...@gmail.com mailto:dileomargher...@gmail.com wrote: Hi! looks like the system requirements for the platform chosen for the webinar do not support Linux.. I just received the confirmation email with the specs. I mean, are you kidding? :-/ Madi The web viewer might work see http://support.citrixonline.com/en_US/gotomeeting/all_files/GTM130019#Linux Norman Hi Norman, I think that web viewer is not working with GoToWebinar: *Is the Web Viewer available with GoToWebinar® and/or GoToTraining®?* No, the Web Viewer is currently only available for GoToMeeting. Cheers, Lluís On Sat, Oct 12, 2013 at 10:46 AM, Suchith Anand suchith.an...@nottingham.ac.uk mailto:suchith.an...@nottingham.ac.uk wrote: Dear All, The ICA-OSGeo Lab Network and MundoGeo are now pleased to inform the inaugural webinar of ”Open Geospatial Science Applications” webinar series on 18th October. The webinars will be open and free to all on first come register basis. The first webinar will be on OSGeo Live for Education by Jeremy Morley (University of Nottingham). This first webinar will address the theme OSGeo Live for Education. With free registration, this event is appropriate for all who are interested in knowing more about the ICA-OSGeo Lab Network and its education activities. In addition to giving an overview of OSGeo Live , Jeremy will be sharing his experiences of using the OSGeo Live system for his MSc teaching in GIS at the University of Nottingham. OSGeo Live 7.0 features more than fifty open source, standards compliant geospatial desktop applications, web applications and frameworks. A complete installation kit and high-quality sample data in multiple industry standard formats are included. It is composed entirely of free software, allowing it to be freely distributed, duplicated and passed around. Details at http://live.osgeo.org/en/index.html Attendees will be able to interact with the speakers by sending their comments and questions through chat. All attendees of this web seminar will receive certificates for their participation. Webinar: OSGeo Live for Education Date:Friday, October 18, 2013 Time: 14:00 - 15:00 UTC Reserve your Webinar place now at: https://www2.gotomeeting.com/register/529291674 After registering you will receive a confirmation email containing information about joining the Webinar. The schedule of webinars for this year are: Oct 18th, 2013 @14:00 UTC – OSGeo Live for Education (Jeremy Morley, University of Nottingham) Nov 7th, 2013 @14:00 UTC – Open Geo Science (Patrick Bell et al, British Geological Survey) Dec 10th, 2013 @14:00 UTC – Free and Open Source Software for Geospatial Applications (FOSS4G): A mature alternative in the geospatial technologies arena ( Maria Brovelli and Rafael Moreno) The webinars will also be recorded for the benefit of the wider community and made available at MundoGeo website and our new “Geo for All” website that the University of Southampton are now building (to be released next week ). All are welcome. Best wishes, Suchith This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org mailto:Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss -- Best regards, Dr. Margherita DI LEO Scientific / technical project officer European Commission - DG JRC Institute for Environment and Sustainability (IES) Via Fermi, 2749 I-21027 Ispra (VA) - Italy - TP 261 Tel. +39 0332 78 3600 margherita.di-...@jrc.ec.europa.eu mailto:margherita.di-...@jrc.ec.europa.eu Disclaimer: The views expressed are purely those of the writer and may not in any circumstance be regarded as stating an official position of the European Commission. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org mailto:Discuss@lists.osgeo.org
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Inaugural webinar of ”Open Geospatial Science Applications” webinar series on 18th October
Lluís Vicens wrote: On 18/10/13 15:05, Norman Vine wrote: On Oct 18, 2013, at 8:57 AM, Margherita Di Leo dileomargher...@gmail.com mailto:dileomargher...@gmail.com wrote: Hi! looks like the system requirements for the platform chosen for the webinar do not support Linux.. I just received the confirmation email with the specs. I mean, are you kidding? Work-arounds (or lack thereof) aside - the are you kidding comment still applies. Just as a not, webex DOES support Linux. This is absurd. -- In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice, there is. Yogi Berra ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Inaugural webinar of ”Open Geospatial Science Applications” webinar series on 18th October
Hi, On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 3:21 PM, Miles Fidelman mfidel...@meetinghouse.netwrote: Lluís Vicens wrote: On 18/10/13 15:05, Norman Vine wrote: On Oct 18, 2013, at 8:57 AM, Margherita Di Leo dileomargher...@gmail.com mailto:dileomargherita@gmail.**comdileomargher...@gmail.com wrote: Hi! looks like the system requirements for the platform chosen for the webinar do not support Linux.. I just received the confirmation email with the specs. I mean, are you kidding? Work-arounds (or lack thereof) aside - the are you kidding comment still applies. Just as a not, webex DOES support Linux. This is absurd. I apologize if i sounded too “harsh” in my previous comment, and would like to add that I really appreciate the webinar initiative and thank all those involved in that. That said, my point is that the technology used for deliver OSGeo's message is not a mere detail. Of course, the best choice would be to use an open source software for that, honestly I'm not aware if there are any (reliable). But, whatever platform you choose, should IMHO at very least not discriminate against Linux users, which are often constrained to use tricks to access other services elsewhere.. because it's simply exhausting [1], and we shouldn't expect to be discriminated against by those who are supposed to deliver the very same message that we do. Thanks and best regards madi [1] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0gGXylVz6KI -- Best regards, Dr. Margherita DI LEO Scientific / technical project officer European Commission - DG JRC Institute for Environment and Sustainability (IES) Via Fermi, 2749 I-21027 Ispra (VA) - Italy - TP 261 Tel. +39 0332 78 3600 margherita.di-...@jrc.ec.europa.eu Disclaimer: The views expressed are purely those of the writer and may not in any circumstance be regarded as stating an official position of the European Commission. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[OSGeo-Discuss] Thanks to all webinar participants
Hi All, Let me first thank Eduardo Freitas and GeoMundo for providing this webinar opportunity for the ICA-OSGeo lab network. I regret that some of you were not able to attend the Webinar. We will greatly appreciate if anyone can provide us with a webinar platform for rectifying this problem. I have requested Eduardo to provide the recording url of the webinar so everyone interested can view it. I would like to specifically thank all participants for joining our first webinar and Jeremy Morley for his excellent presentation. Best wishes, Suchith This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Inaugural webinar of ”Open Geospatial Science Applications” webinar series on 18th October
On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 4:08 PM, Margherita Di Leo dileomargher...@gmail.com wrote: That said, my point is that the technology used for deliver OSGeo's message is not a mere detail. Of course, the best choice would be to use an open source software for that, honestly I'm not aware if there are any (reliable). The proprietary and commercial solutions are hardly reliable either! We used Webex for FOSS4G 2013 committee meetings, and it would drop people, or not let me use computer sound and so on. Plus it tended to crash my browser and needed an exact JVM to work reliably. The open source conferencingythings I know of include BigBlueButton and OpenMeetings, the latter of which is now an Apache Foundation project: http://openmeetings.apache.org/ which should be something we as an open source community should get behind in a big way. I've suggested projects try these things but The Powers That Be end up going with Webex or Skype because thats what they've used in the past, and maybe its less server setup and so on. But when I'm king of everything... But, whatever platform you choose, should IMHO at very least not discriminate against Linux users, which are often constrained to use tricks to access other services elsewhere.. because it's simply exhausting [1], and we shouldn't expect to be discriminated against by those who are supposed to deliver the very same message that we do. +1 Geo For All Except Linux Users? No thanks! Barry ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Inaugural webinar of Open Geospatial Science Applications webinar series on 18th October
Barry, Margarita et al, Could you please help us by providing webinar system for our Webinar series. We can set up a small committee to get work started on this and we need experts like you to help provide us with a webinar system for our needs. I will be in contact with you both to get this work started and looking forward to your contributions. Suchith -Original Message- From: b.rowling...@gmail.com [mailto:b.rowling...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Barry Rowlingson Sent: 18 October 2013 16:24 To: Margherita Di Leo; Suchith Anand Cc: Miles Fidelman; discuss@lists.osgeo.org Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Inaugural webinar of Open Geospatial Science Applications webinar series on 18th October On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 4:08 PM, Margherita Di Leo dileomargher...@gmail.com wrote: That said, my point is that the technology used for deliver OSGeo's message is not a mere detail. Of course, the best choice would be to use an open source software for that, honestly I'm not aware if there are any (reliable). The proprietary and commercial solutions are hardly reliable either! We used Webex for FOSS4G 2013 committee meetings, and it would drop people, or not let me use computer sound and so on. Plus it tended to crash my browser and needed an exact JVM to work reliably. The open source conferencingythings I know of include BigBlueButton and OpenMeetings, the latter of which is now an Apache Foundation project: http://openmeetings.apache.org/ which should be something we as an open source community should get behind in a big way. I've suggested projects try these things but The Powers That Be end up going with Webex or Skype because thats what they've used in the past, and maybe its less server setup and so on. But when I'm king of everything... But, whatever platform you choose, should IMHO at very least not discriminate against Linux users, which are often constrained to use tricks to access other services elsewhere.. because it's simply exhausting [1], and we shouldn't expect to be discriminated against by those who are supposed to deliver the very same message that we do. +1 Geo For All Except Linux Users? No thanks! Barry This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[OSGeo-Discuss] packaging mailing list
Hi all, There have been some IRC discussions between Fedora-GIS and openSUSE Geo maintainers to join forces (as possible) regarding the packaging of geospatial applications. We feel that such packaging projects (DebianGIS, UbuntuGIS, ELGIS, Fedora-GIS, App:Geo, Arch AUR etc) could at least share patches, workarounds, ideas, maybe even some code (especially when being on a common RPM or DEB format). Then we thought: What if there was a common mailing list that all GNU/Linux packagers could join and discuss? And who would be better to host such a list than OSGeo? So this is the proposal: Lets create an OSGeo packaging mailing list and lets work together. At first we can announce new packages being created for every distro out there. Then perhaps we can share some tickets etc. We *know* that every distro has its own ways of doing things and we are not proposing merging, but collaborating as much as possible... Thoughts? Cheers, Angelos -- Angelos Tzotsos Remote Sensing Laboratory National Technical University of Athens http://users.ntua.gr/tzotsos ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Inaugural webinar of ”Open Geospatial Science Applications” webinar series on 18th October
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Margherita, I support your initial bewilderment, no need to appologize. The OCG is also stuck on gotomeeting and I always have to borrow a Mac or participate from my mobile phone which makes the whole effort suck. I think we should try to avoid these solutions as widely as we can. Barry, I like your suggestion to support http://openmeetings.apache.org/ But I would like to get some more realworl feedback on folks who have used it, I have no experience at all with this software. Having said that - do we really need a full fledged *conference* software to transmit a webinar? That feels a bit overblown. Even reveal.js has a server push version to direct slides to many people - and that is just JavaScript. 8-) Talk through a regular radio stream and receive questions through IRC, Twitter, or whatever else people throw at you. I am probably hilariously oversimplifying things but I really don't think we need to go webex or gotomeeting for a seminar. Cheers, Arnulf On 18.10.2013 17:08, Margherita Di Leo wrote: Hi, On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 3:21 PM, Miles Fidelman mfidel...@meetinghouse.net mailto:mfidel...@meetinghouse.net wrote: Lluís Vicens wrote: On 18/10/13 15:05, Norman Vine wrote: On Oct 18, 2013, at 8:57 AM, Margherita Di Leo dileomargher...@gmail.com mailto:dileomargher...@gmail.com mailto:dileomargherita@gmail.__com mailto:dileomargher...@gmail.com wrote: Hi! looks like the system requirements for the platform chosen for the webinar do not support Linux.. I just received the confirmation email with the specs. I mean, are you kidding? Work-arounds (or lack thereof) aside - the are you kidding comment still applies. Just as a not, webex DOES support Linux. This is absurd. I apologize if i sounded too “harsh” in my previous comment, and would like to add that I really appreciate the webinar initiative and thank all those involved in that. That said, my point is that the technology used for deliver OSGeo's message is not a mere detail. Of course, the best choice would be to use an open source software for that, honestly I'm not aware if there are any (reliable). But, whatever platform you choose, should IMHO at very least not discriminate against Linux users, which are often constrained to use tricks to access other services elsewhere.. because it's simply exhausting [1], and we shouldn't expect to be discriminated against by those who are supposed to deliver the very same message that we do. Thanks and best regards madi [1] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0gGXylVz6KI -- Best regards, Dr. Margherita DI LEO Scientific / technical project officer European Commission - DG JRC Institute for Environment and Sustainability (IES) Via Fermi, 2749 I-21027 Ispra (VA) - Italy - TP 261 Tel. +39 0332 78 3600 margherita.di-...@jrc.ec.europa.eu mailto:margherita.di-...@jrc.ec.europa.eu Disclaimer: The views expressed are purely those of the writer and may not in any circumstance be regarded as stating an official position of the European Commission. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss - -- Arnulf Christl (Director) The metaspatial Institute Certification: Open Source - Open Data - Open Standards http://www.metaspatial.net/en/institute -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iEYEARECAAYFAlJhWtMACgkQXmFKW+BJ1b3spACfQwzmwm9PPOUI63HxVEaKNsmi wEQAn31ZmNoWP4ByTKgK+EgWcWXlwtmY =Vjg5 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Inaugural webinar of ”Open Geospatial Science Applications” webinar series on 18th October
On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 4:59 PM, Arnulf Christl arnulf.chri...@metaspatial.net wrote: Having said that - do we really need a full fledged *conference* software to transmit a webinar? That feels a bit overblown. Even reveal.js has a server push version to direct slides to many people - and that is just JavaScript. 8-) Talk through a regular radio stream and receive questions through IRC, Twitter, or whatever else people throw at you. As the meme goes Now you have three problems. How do I set up a 'regular radio stream'? (It sounds like I need to break into BBC Manchester and hack into their FM transmitters!) Now everyone needs a twitter login, a radio stream listener, and a feed from reveal.js. Oh, and a shared whiteboard and desktop? Let's fire up that shared notepad site that I've forgotten the name of too. And now everyone has different usernames on things. That arnulf.christl' on the notepad is sevenof9 on twitter and ernest.borg9 on the radio? Like you, I've not used OpenMeeting. I have a vague memory of trying to install it or something like it on a fairly old server and it just seemed to get stuck where maven just puked out its guts trying to get all the dependencies. But that was at least two years ago. But these all-in-one solutions have value as all-in-one solutions, assuming what you need is a subset of all. I'd like to see one that Just Works (on all platforms). I am probably hilariously oversimplifying things but I really don't think we need to go webex or gotomeeting for a seminar. Or overcomplicating it :) Barry ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Thanks to all webinar participants
Hi all, Thanks to Eduardo, we now have the stats for our first webinar Final numbers: Total Attended Total RegisteredAttendance Rate 255 48252,90% I have setup a webinar committee to plan and help implement a webinar system to accomodate all our requirements for the future. As our webinar initiative has no funding and fully based on volunteer efforts we need volunteers who can help implement a new system for us. We are open to all alternative arrangements but need people to come forward who can help us to develop and host the new webinar system to achieve our objectives. Until then, we will continue using existing facilities kindly provided to us by MundoGeo. Suchith From: discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org [discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org] On Behalf Of Suchith Anand [suchith.an...@nottingham.ac.uk] Sent: Friday, October 18, 2013 4:20 PM To: discuss@lists.osgeo.org; ica-osgeo-l...@lists.osgeo.org Subject: [OSGeo-Discuss] Thanks to all webinar participants Hi All, Let me first thank Eduardo Freitas and GeoMundo for providing this webinar opportunity for the ICA-OSGeo lab network. I regret that some of you were not able to attend the Webinar. We will greatly appreciate if anyone can provide us with a webinar platform for rectifying this problem. I have requested Eduardo to provide the recording url of the webinar so everyone interested can view it. I would like to specifically thank all participants for joining our first webinar and Jeremy Morley for his excellent presentation. Best wishes, Suchith This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please send it back to me, and immediately delete it. Please do not use, copy or disclose the information contained in this message or in any attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses which could damage your computer system, you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
