Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Proposed OSGeo Vision

[Jody Garnett]

I would like to chase up your idea of an "independent process facilitator"
- do we know anyone suitable for the task?

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On 17 November 2015 at 01:47, Gert-Jan van der Weijden 
wrote:

> Suchith, Cameron, Board Members and everybody else,
>
> Jeff's -I assume personal- vision and Cameron's refinement are a good
> starting point indeed.
> We already have more ingredients to refine our mission, goals en ways to
> achieve them:
> - A discussion started by Darrell Fuhriman (under the intriguing title
> "OSGeo is becoming irrelevant. Here's why. Let's fix it)
> - And a thread 2 month earlier (started by Michael Gerlek) "We won. It's
> time for OSGeo 2.0".
> - And probably much more,
>
> Our board has a face2face meeting in January 2016 (althought the wiki
> mentions "2015") [3] (in a cold, wet -but thanks to Jeroen Ticheler
> welcoming- Holland).
> I hope we can glue these meetings, discussions and insights together.
> Therefore I suggest that the board f2f meeting is not an event on it's
> own, but one step in a proces where we can redefine our values, rewrite our
> goals and re-order our priorities.
>
> Some ideas & suggestions:
> - Handle it topic by topic. Therefore: define the topics first (partly
> done, as in Jeff's vision for OSGeo, here below.
> - For the board f2f: consider to invite an independant process facilitator
> - FOSS4G-2016 might be the right time and (I think inspiring!) place to
> finish that proces (with a "strategy-codesprint", for instance).
> - And finally: such an "OSGeo. 2.0 proces" fits nicely in our 10th
> anniversary (OSGeo is founded in 2006)!
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Gert-Jan
>
>
> [1] https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/discuss/2015-September/014912.html
> [2] https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/discuss/2015-July/014521.html
> [3] http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Board_Face_to_Face_Meeting_2015
>
>
>
>
> Suchith Anand  schreef:
>
>
> Thank you Jeff for your dedication and efforts for OSGeo and taking time
>> to put together your ideas for the proposed OSGeo vision and thanks to
>> Cameron for excellent comments/suggestions to help refine this.
>>
>> This proposed OSGeo vision ideas are a good start to discuss and
>> brainstorm ideas of how we can expand OSGeo for the future. I suggest that
>> this should be something the OSGeo Board should also look into and input.
>>
>> Best wishes,
>>
>> Suchith
>>
>> 
>> From: Discuss [discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org] on behalf of Cameron
>> Shorter [cameron.shor...@gmail.com]
>> Sent: Monday, November 16, 2015 11:20 AM
>> To: discuss@lists.osgeo.org
>> Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Proposed OSGeo Vision
>>
>> Hi Jeff,
>> I've renamed this email thread to "Proposed OSGeo Vision", and have
>> selected out your text specifically related the Vision.
>>
>> I'm re-reading the text more slowly on my second pass.
>> Firstly, I think you have done a great first pass. Please consider my
>> comments as suggested refinements.
>>
>> In general:
>> I question the emphasis on face-to-face meetings over email.
>> I agree that face-to-face meetings can be very effective and empowering
>> for the people within the room, however it comes at a cost.
>> 1. Only the people in the room are empowered. This lends itself well to
>> a hierarchical command-and-control power structure. Decisions are made
>> by the powerful, while the masses are disenfranchised.
>> 2. For a global organisation, it is expensive to fly everyone into one
>> location.
>> 3. For a low-capital organisation (like OSGeo), it is difficult to
>> justify travel expenses over many other valuable low cost and effective
>> options.
>> 4. Decentralised communication is very effective at attracting large and
>> active communities.
>>
>> Open Source communities thrive on leaderless organisation, email lists,
>> IRC channels, and other cheap communication channels. (I blogged on this
>> decades ago when the internet was just starting to become main stream
>> [1]).
>>
>> [1]
>>
>> http://cameronshorter.blogspot.com.au/2000/10/understanding-and-motivating-activists.html
>>
>> On 16/11/2015 6:13 am, Jeff McKenna wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Vision For OSGeo
>>> 
>>>
>>> (I should first state that I have called a face to face meeting with
>>> the OSGeo Board members to work together on topics such as vision and
>>> the goals of OSGeo, and how to achieve those goals, and that meeting
>>> will be in January, attended by all members of this new OSGeo board)
>>>
>> 
>>
>>>
>>> "My vision is for OSGeo to be the Open Source geospatial community all
>>> across the globe, everywhere and anywhere, and have fun doing it.  The
>>> OSGeo community is special, we are unique, we do great things for the
>>> world, we are open, and we have fun.  We accept anyone into our
>>> community and will give them the spotlight, to help their local
>>> community and the world share its spatial information.  We are OSGeo."
>>>
>> > "group" 

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Barn raising: osgeo.org web site

[Gert-Jan van der Weijden (OSGeo.nl)]

Hi Ian,

Is this update a pure technical one, or are there also plans to give the 
site a new fresh & young look?



regards,

Gert-Jan





Ian Edwards schreef op 09-12-2015 14:38:

Excellent - thanks Jeff.

All - please keep sending in requirements for the remake of the main
osgeo.org [2] website.  It may make sense to move specifics of this
discussion to the webcom mailing list, but please reply on discuss
with any major issues to this proposal overall, or with any
alternative suggestions prior to tomorrow's board meeting.

On Wed, Dec 9, 2015 at 1:18 PM, Jeff McKenna
 wrote:


On 2015-12-07 6:31 PM, Ian Edwards wrote:


Hi All,

Plans to recreate the current OSGeo.org website in a newer version
of
the Drupal content management system are on the wiki here:

https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/OSGeo.org_Web_Site_-_2016_Barn_Raising

This topic is also on the agenda for this week's OSGeo board
meeting
(Thursday):
agenda: https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Board_Meeting_2015-12-10

time:




http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?year=2015=12=10=14=0=0%2015.00UTC


Please send replies to the message to *discuss**@lists.osgeo.org
[1]
* and not to the other lists included on
this
message to prevent the discussion from being split across the
discuss,
board, sac and webcom lists!

Many thanks,

Ian

P.S. I anticipate that we may not all agree that a manual
migration to
Drupal 8 is the absolute optimal solution --- but please bear in
mind
that possible upgrades have been in discussion since 2007...
We're
looking for a solution that can be easily implemented and meets
the main
requirements (including removing ad hoc custom PHP and also
ensuring
solid multilingual support).


I've added more requirements to the wiki as well:

- Allow easy way to find communication channels:

mailing lists
IRC
OSGeo Slack
OSGeo HipChat
OSGeo Gitter

-jeff

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[OSGeo-Discuss] Report of a succesful FOSS4G.be

[Johan Van de Wauw]

Hi all,

On Thursday, November 29, 2015 at the Environment and Energy Agency of
Brussels, the Belgian chapter of the OSGeo Foundation [1] organised
the first FOSS4G Belgium [2]. More than 300 people participated in
this day of conferences, demonstrations, debates and meetings about
OSGeo topics !

The event brought together the community of users, developers, policy
makers and just curious FOSS geomatics.

You can find on our website the talks [3] as well as photos [4] and a
short video [5 ] of the event.

Many thanks to the sponsors, volunteers and participants for their commitment.

We wish you all Merry Christmas and Happy New Year 2016.

The FOSS4G.be team,
Marc Ducobu – Dirk Frigne – Gael Kruwialis - Moritz Lennert - Oliver
May - Tommy Oozeer - Johan Van de Wauw - Maëlle Vercauteren Drubbel


[1] http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Belgium

[2] http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Belgium/FOSS4G

[3] http://foss4g.be/presentations/foss4g/

[4] https://www.flickr.com/photos/levvie/albums/72157661420302750

[5 ] https://vimeo.com/144855459
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Barn raising: osgeo.org web site

[Massimiliano Cannata]

Dear All,
actually I think we need something more fancy and modern with respect to
what we have now.

At least for the landing page, the rest could be more functional and be
Drupal or whatsoever you think is better from a technical point of view.

In my opinion we need a re-design of the website and of the communication.

Maxi



2015-12-10 10:09 GMT+01:00 Gert-Jan van der Weijden (OSGeo.nl) <
gert-...@osgeo.nl>:

> Hi Ian,
>
> Is this update a pure technical one, or are there also plans to give the
> site a new fresh & young look?
>
>
> regards,
>
> Gert-Jan
>
>
>
>
>
> Ian Edwards schreef op 09-12-2015 14:38:
>
>> Excellent - thanks Jeff.
>>
>> All - please keep sending in requirements for the remake of the main
>> osgeo.org [2] website.  It may make sense to move specifics of this
>> discussion to the webcom mailing list, but please reply on discuss
>> with any major issues to this proposal overall, or with any
>> alternative suggestions prior to tomorrow's board meeting.
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 9, 2015 at 1:18 PM, Jeff McKenna
>>  wrote:
>>
>> On 2015-12-07 6:31 PM, Ian Edwards wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi All,

 Plans to recreate the current OSGeo.org website in a newer version
 of
 the Drupal content management system are on the wiki here:

 https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/OSGeo.org_Web_Site_-_2016_Barn_Raising

 This topic is also on the agenda for this week's OSGeo board
 meeting
 (Thursday):
 agenda: https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Board_Meeting_2015-12-10
 
 time:


>>>
>> http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?year=2015=12=10=14=0=0%2015.00UTC
>>
>>>
 Please send replies to the message to *discuss**@lists.osgeo.org
 [1]

 * and not to the other lists included on
 this
 message to prevent the discussion from being split across the
 discuss,
 board, sac and webcom lists!

 Many thanks,

 Ian

 P.S. I anticipate that we may not all agree that a manual
 migration to
 Drupal 8 is the absolute optimal solution --- but please bear in
 mind
 that possible upgrades have been in discussion since 2007...
 We're
 looking for a solution that can be easily implemented and meets
 the main
 requirements (including removing ad hoc custom PHP and also
 ensuring
 solid multilingual support).

>>>
>>> I've added more requirements to the wiki as well:
>>>
>>> - Allow easy way to find communication channels:
>>>
>>> mailing lists
>>> IRC
>>> OSGeo Slack
>>> OSGeo HipChat
>>> OSGeo Gitter
>>>
>>> -jeff
>>>
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Report of a succesful FOSS4G.be

[Jorge Sanz]

On 10 December 2015 at 13:11, Johan Van de Wauw
 wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> On Thursday, November 29, 2015 at the Environment and Energy Agency of
> Brussels, the Belgian chapter of the OSGeo Foundation [1] organised
> the first FOSS4G Belgium [2]. More than 300 people participated in
> this day of conferences, demonstrations, debates and meetings about
> OSGeo topics !
>
> The event brought together the community of users, developers, policy
> makers and just curious FOSS geomatics.
>
> You can find on our website the talks [3] as well as photos [4] and a
> short video [5 ] of the event.
>
> Many thanks to the sponsors, volunteers and participants for their commitment.
>
> We wish you all Merry Christmas and Happy New Year 2016.
>
> The FOSS4G.be team,
> Marc Ducobu – Dirk Frigne – Gael Kruwialis - Moritz Lennert - Oliver
> May - Tommy Oozeer - Johan Van de Wauw - Maëlle Vercauteren Drubbel
>
>

Looks like it was a great event, congrats to everyone involved!

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Barn raising: osgeo.org web site

[Ian Edwards]

Hi Gert-Jan, Maxi,

I agree with both of you.

In terms of the design I'd encourage you to get involved with discussions
(and implementation..!) via the webcom list as we get underway.  The aim
will be to provide a number of theme choices and to improve the design of
the site substantially (on both desktop and mobile devices).

Maxi - we can style the site in anyway, regardless of the back end being
drupal.  The style of the landing page can be a focus of additional effort,
and could be static, cached, or database-driven on each visit.

Hopefully there will be a lot of discussion around how we're communicating
the content as we go forward, but the main focus is certainly the
technology upgrade.  If we only achieved a site that looked like the old
site, but was on upgraded software then this would still be a very
desirable outcome.

Ian


On Thu, Dec 10, 2015 at 10:31 AM, Massimiliano Cannata <
massimiliano.cann...@supsi.ch> wrote:

> Dear All,
> actually I think we need something more fancy and modern with respect to
> what we have now.
>
> At least for the landing page, the rest could be more functional and be
> Drupal or whatsoever you think is better from a technical point of view.
>
> In my opinion we need a re-design of the website and of the communication.
>
> Maxi
>
>
>
> 2015-12-10 10:09 GMT+01:00 Gert-Jan van der Weijden (OSGeo.nl) <
> gert-...@osgeo.nl>:
>
>> Hi Ian,
>>
>> Is this update a pure technical one, or are there also plans to give the
>> site a new fresh & young look?
>>
>>
>> regards,
>>
>> Gert-Jan
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Ian Edwards schreef op 09-12-2015 14:38:
>>
>>> Excellent - thanks Jeff.
>>>
>>> All - please keep sending in requirements for the remake of the main
>>> osgeo.org [2] website.  It may make sense to move specifics of this
>>> discussion to the webcom mailing list, but please reply on discuss
>>> with any major issues to this proposal overall, or with any
>>> alternative suggestions prior to tomorrow's board meeting.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Dec 9, 2015 at 1:18 PM, Jeff McKenna
>>>  wrote:
>>>
>>> On 2015-12-07 6:31 PM, Ian Edwards wrote:

 Hi All,
>
> Plans to recreate the current OSGeo.org website in a newer version
> of
> the Drupal content management system are on the wiki here:
>
> https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/OSGeo.org_Web_Site_-_2016_Barn_Raising
>
> This topic is also on the agenda for this week's OSGeo board
> meeting
> (Thursday):
> agenda: https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Board_Meeting_2015-12-10
> 
> time:
>
>

>>> http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?year=2015=12=10=14=0=0%2015.00UTC
>>>

> Please send replies to the message to *discuss**@lists.osgeo.org
> [1]
>
> * and not to the other lists included on
> this
> message to prevent the discussion from being split across the
> discuss,
> board, sac and webcom lists!
>
> Many thanks,
>
> Ian
>
> P.S. I anticipate that we may not all agree that a manual
> migration to
> Drupal 8 is the absolute optimal solution --- but please bear in
> mind
> that possible upgrades have been in discussion since 2007...
> We're
> looking for a solution that can be easily implemented and meets
> the main
> requirements (including removing ad hoc custom PHP and also
> ensuring
> solid multilingual support).
>

 I've added more requirements to the wiki as well:

 - Allow easy way to find communication channels:

 mailing lists
 IRC
 OSGeo Slack
 OSGeo HipChat
 OSGeo Gitter

 -jeff

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>
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>
> Responsabile settore Geomatica
>
>
> Istituto scienze della Terra
>
> Dipartimento ambiente costruzione e design
>
> Scuola universitaria professionale della Svizzera italiana
>
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>
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