Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Announcement: Call for Location global FOSS4G 2023

2022-01-12 Thread Massimiliano Cannata via Discuss
++1 Il gio 13 gen 2022, 07:46 Jeroen Ticheler via Discuss < discuss@lists.osgeo.org> ha scritto: > +1 Very well said Mark! > > Jeroen (fellow idiot) > > Op 13 jan. 2022 om 03:14 heeft Mark Iliffe via Discuss < > discuss@lists.osgeo.org> het volgende geschreven: > >  > Hi Everyone, > > I would

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Announcement: Call for Location global FOSS4G 2023

2022-01-12 Thread María Arias de Reyna via Discuss
On Wed, Jan 12, 2022 at 10:50 PM Jonathan Moules via Discuss wrote: > On the surface, this is a good idea, but unfortunately it has a fundamental > problem: > There are no "criteria for selection" of the conference beyond "the committee > members voted for this proposal". There's zero

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] [OSGeo-Conf] Announcement: Call for Location global FOSS4G 2023

2022-01-12 Thread Luca Delucchi via Discuss
On Wed, 12 Jan 2022 at 16:45, Michael Smith via Discuss wrote: > > I would say that its probably best to think about Hybrid, as this is what is > happening for 2022. Essentially you are both right, there are pluses and > minuses to each. And we want to support both going forward as there isn’t

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Announcement: Call for Location global FOSS4G 2023

2022-01-12 Thread Jeroen Ticheler via Discuss
+1 Very well said Mark! Jeroen (fellow idiot) > Op 13 jan. 2022 om 03:14 heeft Mark Iliffe via Discuss > het volgende geschreven: > >  > Hi Everyone, > > I would like to start this email with the caveat, statement, and admission > that "I am an idiot" to ensure all are provided with the

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Announcement: Call for Location global FOSS4G 2023

2022-01-12 Thread Mark Iliffe via Discuss
Hi Everyone, I would like to start this email with the caveat, statement, and admission that "*I am an idiot*" to ensure all are provided with the requisite informed context. The environmental concerns of holding a conference are immense, that we would be reticent not to consider. I for one love

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Announcement: Call for Location global FOSS4G 2023

2022-01-12 Thread Jonathan Moules via Discuss
The problem with the social interaction arguments is the massive environmental cost. It's about 22,000 km round trip from either NW USA or West Europe to Buenos Aires, Argentina for example. Depending on the calculator you use, that's about 4 tonnes of CO2 for the round trip. The world target

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] [OSGeo-Conf] Announcement: Call for Location global FOSS4G 2023

2022-01-12 Thread karsten via Discuss
Dear (OS)Geo friends, > > we really hope that FOSS4G2023 can be safely > organized in > > physical format. >> Why? >>> Because we humans are social animals; and people like me, who are almost completely burnt out by not having been outside of their houses for nearly >>> two years, could

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] [External] Re: [OSGeo-Conf] Announcement: Call for Location global FOSS4G 2023

2022-01-12 Thread Barry Rowlingson via Discuss
I think if a group of individuals[1], or several groups, want to put forward proposals for the conference to be located in "Cyberspace"[2] then that should not be disallowed, and then its up to the conference committee to consider it fairly according to the criteria for selection. Barry [1] Not

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] [OSGeo-Conf] Announcement: Call for Location global FOSS4G 2023

2022-01-12 Thread Michael Smith via Discuss
I would say that its probably best to think about Hybrid, as this is what is happening for 2022. Essentially you are both right, there are pluses and minuses to each. And we want to support both going forward as there isn’t going to be an approach that works for everyone. Future FOSS4Gs will

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] [OSGeo-Conf] Announcement: Call for Location global FOSS4G 2023

2022-01-12 Thread María Arias de Reyna via Discuss
Hi, This is my personal opinion as co-chair of FOSS4G 2021 and not any official OSGeo statement. Take it with a grain of salt. I am still recovering from the burnout of organizing it, so I may be very biased :) On Wed, Jan 12, 2022 at 3:42 PM Jonathan Moules via Discuss wrote: > Why? If it can

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] [OSGeo-Conf] Announcement: Call for Location global FOSS4G 2023

2022-01-12 Thread Iván Sánchez Ortega via Discuss
El miércoles, 12 de enero de 2022 15:26:05 (CET) Jonathan Moules via Discuss escribió: > > we really hope that FOSS4G2023 can be safely > > organized in physical format. > > Why? Because we humans are social animals; and people like me, who are almost completely burnt out by not having been

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] [OSGeo-Conf] Announcement: Call for Location global FOSS4G 2023

2022-01-12 Thread Jonathan Moules via Discuss
Hi Vasile, > 2021 was the proof that a successful FOSS4G can be organized in virtual form as well. Which is great to hear! But in that case, the following statements raises a question > we really hope that FOSS4G2023 can be safely organized in physical format. Why? If it can be held in a

[OSGeo-Discuss] Announcement: Call for Location global FOSS4G 2023

2022-01-12 Thread Vasile Craciunescu via Discuss
Dear OSGeo/FOSS4G Community, Although the fight against COVID-19 is not over yet, we need to think and act to keep the FOSS4G spirit alive and to have our beloved global conference hosted in 2023. That's why OSGeo's Conference Committee is happy to announce that the call for location for the