Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo and Open Data?
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] gis data download app per sheet/quad suggestions
There are a few open-source options. They may not do exactly what you want but provide an interface that could be adapted. for imagery: https://github.com/Esri/image-discovery-app-js geoportal can call to zip ship processing: https://github.com/Esri/geoportal-server for a hosted option - you can use GeoCommons to save filtered views of datasets and then download those for free, but I'm not sure how configurable you need it to be. Andrew On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 9:40 AM, Duarte Carreira dcarre...@edia.pt wrote: It’s for vector and raster… *De:* Andrew Turner [mailto:ajtur...@gmail.com] *Enviada:* terça-feira, 15 de Abril de 2014 13:09 *Para:* Duarte Carreira *Cc:* discuss@lists.osgeo.org *Assunto:* Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] gis data download app per sheet/quad suggestions Are you interested in vector, raster or other types of data? Andrew (via mobile - 248-982-3609) On Apr 15, 2014, at 7:47 AM, Duarte Carreira dcarre...@edia.pt wrote: Hi everybody [1]. I’m looking for suggestions on existing or easily adaptable solutions to a simple point-select-download web app. The ones I’ve found work by downloading an entire gis dataset. I need to allow downloading of selected sheets/quads to narrow down the volume of downloaded data at any given time. So, any suggestions? Much appreciated, Duarte [1] https://www.google.com/search?q=hi+everybodyoq=hi+everybody *Duarte Carreira* Diretor | Dep. Informação Geográfica e Cartografia www.edia.pt www.alqueva.com.pt Tel. +351 284315100 [image: Imagem removida pelo remetente.] http://www.edia.pt ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss -- Andrew Turner t: @ajturner b: http://highearthorbit.com m: 248.982.3609 inline: ~WRD000.jpg___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Meetup at ESRI User Conf?
That would be great! It may be short notice - but I think valuable to do tonight or tomorrow. I also have a talk on Wednesday and Thursday about open-source and Github that I can use to mention the meetup. Is there a BoF scheduled? Andrew On Tuesday, July 9, 2013, Michael P. Gerlek wrote: I should have thought of this earlier, but -- If anyone out there is down here at the ESRI show today, I'd be happy to host an open source meetup tonight, perhaps dinner or drinks. Ping me if interested. .mpg ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org javascript:; http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss -- Andrew Turner t: @ajturner b: http://highearthorbit.com m: 248.982.3609 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] [OSGeo-Standards] Geoservices REST API story is being discussed on slashdot
Thanks Arnulf.
Regarding this last important comment, the GeoServices interface is already
an open specification [1] that was submitted to the OpenWebFoundation (OWF)
[2] to ensure non-proprietary use.
Indeed there is a huge opportunity to provide easy to use and flexible
tools that talk to the numerous servers out there. Ideally any user or
developer of the popular open-source tools should be agnostic and unaware
of the details of the underlying specification or format. They just want
their data in a {map,analysis,report,app}.
While I was not a part of the OGC working group in any way - I have been in
discussions on how to jumpstart any kind of real REST specification for
years and finally gave up. :) I hope that path still happens in some way
and includes full bidirectional support for any service.
Andrew
[1] GeoServices Specification 1.0 (2010):
http://www.esri.com/library/whitepapers/pdfs/geoservices-rest-spec.pdf
[2] OpenWeb Foundation Agreement:
http://www.openwebfoundation.org/faqs/users-of-owf-agreements
On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 9:56 AM, Seven (aka Arnulf) se...@arnulf.us wrote:
I am still not convinced that the result of this standard would have
been detrimental to Open Source. How that? There is a good chance that
it would have opened up all current esri clients for Open Source code
because the proposed standard goes right into the underwear of esri's
ArcGIS. Having the specification in the OGC would have guaranteed that
it would not be dropped or changed in a proprietary whim. Every single
esri client would have had the chance to get some Open Source pieces
into their game, be it on the client or the server side. Then learn
that it is more stable, evolves quicker and can replace the other esri
stuff over time. Simple as that.
Chance passed, but no problem, we'll get another one.
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Open Source Geospatial Atlas
On Sun, Jul 29, 2012 at 6:42 PM, Dimitris Kotzinos kotz...@csd.uoc.gr wrote: Dear all, I would like to second Arnulf's suggestions for the committee and the white paper. Slight amendment : let's name it Open Geospatial Data Committee. I'd be happy to participate. +1 on an Open Geospatial Data Committee. Count me in as well. Andrew Best, Dimitris Really good idea, and great to see so many interested. I offer to act as data licensing advisor / clearinghouse and add what we learn from the process to the OSGeo Wiki. Step one of my planned Public Geospatial Data Committee revival. Step two will be an OSGeo White Paper defining Open Data, VGI, Crowdsourced and so on geospatial data. If there is interest... Cheers, Arnulf ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss -- Andrew Turner t: @ajturner b: http://highearthorbit.com m: 248.982.3609 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Automatic geocoding of PDF documents
On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 6:00 PM, slesage sles...@geo.gob.bo wrote: Hi, does anybody knows about some opensource software dedicated to automatic geocoding of text documents ? The idea of that black box would be: * give, as an input, a text document or a PDF, * receive, as an output, a list of place names with their coordinates / a map of POI corresponding to that places. Using the geonames database (http://www.geonames.org/), the solution appears to be only a fulltext search, that could be done using Lucene (https://lucene.apache.org/java/docs/index.html). I found the metacarta solution (http://www.metacarta.com/products-platform-geotag.htm) but couldn't find any opensource solution. The reason that there isn't an open-source solution is because it is Very Difficult. Even geocoding is difficult and until a short while ago there weren't any decent open-source geocoders. So we worked with Schuyler (formerly of Metacarta) to build an open-source one [1]. Your idea of using Geonames gazeteer with Apache Lucene is interesting and I think I've seen it suggested before. However, at best it will find location names but will be missing any logic for disambiguation or words or relative locations. So you could likely find that Paris was mentioned, but not sure if it's Paris, France or Paris, Texas, US. Gisgraphy [2] is an open-source option that says it provides Full-text searching. I don't know more about it though. Definitely share what else you find or try. Andrew [1] https://github.com/geocommons/geocoder [2] http://www.gisgraphy.com/download/index.htm Thanks for your suggestions. Sylvain Lesage. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss -- Andrew Turner mobile: 248.982.3609 and...@fortiusone.com http://highearthorbit.com http://geocommons.com Helping build the Geospatial Web Introduction to Neogeography - http://oreilly.com/catalog/neogeography ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Wherecon conference April 10-12 2012 in Washington DC
I hadn't planned on attending, but being local to DC might be able to get in and hand out some live DVD's if no one else is already attending. Andrew On Sat, Nov 5, 2011 at 7:47 AM, Mark Lucas mluca...@mac.com wrote: Cameron, Agree, just started talking to them yesterday. Also, the Live Disk is the logical starting point as we work with NGA to move open source technology and practices into the agency. We hope to formally kick off that effort before Thanksgiving and will start out with an external internet test bed that I'd like to get OSGeo involved with. Mark On Nov 5, 2011, at 4:33 AM, Cameron Shorter wrote: On 5/11/2011 4:07 AM, Mark Lucas wrote: http://www.wherecon.com/ Will there be someone attending this conference who can hand out OSGeoLive DVDs? Of particular note, the OSGeoLive DVD contains write ups of key OGC standards - which is important for the OGC sponsor. -- Cameron Shorter Geospatial Solutions Manager Tel: +61 (0)2 8570 5050 Mob: +61 (0)419 142 254 Think Globally, Fix Locally Geospatial Solutions enhanced with Open Standards and Open Source http://www.lisasoft.com ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss -- Andrew Turner mobile: 248.982.3609 and...@fortiusone.com http://highearthorbit.com http://geocommons.com Helping build the Geospatial Web Introduction to Neogeography - http://oreilly.com/catalog/neogeography ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] How to make a map on a CD [SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]
Bruce Bannerman wrote: Perhaps use GeoPDF [1] as the destination format on the CD? Hrm, GeoPDF... that's a fun one :) For Haiti, I took Chris Schmidt's HaitiBrowser [1] and modified it to run locally [2] by double-clicking the index.html file and loading local tiles. This was required as users didn't even have Admin rights to run VMWare or install any applications. It's also cross-browser, lightweight and effective. You can also checkout MapsOnAStick [3] All of these read from KML or JSON. There are also JavaScript Shapefile readers [4]. hope that helps some! Andrew [1] http://github.com/crschmidt/haitibrowser [2] http://github.com/ajturner/haitibrowser [3] http://github.com/developmentseed/mapsonastick [4] http://github.com/RandomEtc/shapefile-js Bruce [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GeoPDF On 1/07/10 2:53 AM, Landon Blake lbl...@ksninc.com wrote: Leith, I believe what you are proposing may not be as simple as it sounds. You might be able to create some type of live CD that they use to demo Linux distributions, but otherwise your map viewing software needs to be installed on the target computer. There are a few good open source desktop GIS programs that can display shapefiles. I'd promote OpenJUMP, but QGis is another program I hear really good things about. MapWindow also runs as a stand alone desktop program, not just a viewer. *Landon *Office Phone Number: (209) 946-0268 Cell Phone Number: (209) 992-0658 *From:* discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org [mailto:discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org] *On Behalf Of *Leith Bade *Sent:* Monday, June 28, 2010 10:09 PM *To:* discuss@lists.osgeo.org *Subject:* [OSGeo-Discuss] How to make a map on a CD Hi, I am new to GIS. I would like to make a vector map that can be burned onto a CD then viewed just by running a program on it which copies the map data and a simple viewer. The dataset is very large (all of New Zealand) so the viewer needs to be effcient, and I have all the data in shapefiles. What would be the best way to do this? I see that MapWindow lets you build a custom viewer application around its map viewer, but it would only work on Windows. Another idea I have is to make some sort of portable web server that runs GeoServer or MapServer. Otherwise I could start developing my own custom map viewer that uses OpenGL/Direct3D/Direct2D or something to make the render fast with smooth scrolling etc. This would allow me to develop a data format that is faster for rendering than shapefiles. Similar commercial products are http://www.maptoaster.com/maptoaster-topo-nz/topographical.html or http://memory-map.com.au/products/maps/topo-nz-std.html Thanks, Leith Bade le...@leithalweapon.geek.nz *Warning: *Information provided via electronic media is not guaranteed against defects including translation and transmission errors. If the reader is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this information in error, please notify the sender immediately. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss -- Andrew Turner m: 248.982.3609 e: and...@highearthorbit.com t: @ajturner b: http://highearthorbit.com w: http://geocommons.com Introduction to Neogeography - http://oreilly.com/catalog/neogeography ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] are there any unpaid developers?
Ian Turton wrote: One of my students was asking today about the open source development process (with special reference to geospatial projects). One question I'm left with is are there any OSGEO developers who are doing this just for the fun and fame? I know that a lot of us have fun developing but everyone I could think of (GeoTools, GeoServer, uDig) gets paid to have that fun. What is interesting is that many people I know that are now paid weren't when they first started using Open-Source (geo and non-geo). I for one, was able to first start as a hobby, then consult, then build businesses around open-source tools precisely because there was no initial capital costs, as well as a community to converse with. Over time, as my skills improved jobs also came through that I could begin tackling. So while there are many people that develop open-source purely for hobby, I imagine there is a very large number that started out unpaid and became paid as both their skills grew, the tools became more widespread, and customers adopted, or opted, for open-source. In Academia, students have many tools, many with expensive licenses, available 'for free', so the capital costs are not a limiting factor. Andrew @ajturner Ian -- Ian Turton ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] U.S. Department of Interior soliciting Ideas on improving business practices
I would like to reiterate that value that the US Government is placing on the IdeaScale comments. The number of comments, quality, feedback, comments, etc. are all feeding into the internal discussions on policy and acquisition. So feel free to comment directly there. Also there is the FCC site up: http://rebootfcc.uservoice.com Andrew doug_newc...@fws.gov wrote: Arnulf, Mind if I copy/paste your comments below into the comments section for that entry ? Doug Doug Newcomb USFWS Raleigh, NC 919-856-4520 ext. 14 doug_newc...@fws.gov - The opinions I express are my own and are not representative of the official policy of the U.S.Fish and Wildlife Service or Dept. of the Interior. Life is too short for undocumented, proprietary data formats. "Arnulf Christl (OSGeo)" arn...@osgeo.org "Arnulf Christl (OSGeo)" arn...@osgeo.org Sent by: discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org 03/10/2010 09:34 AM Please respond to arn...@osgeo.org; Please respond to OSGeo Discussions discuss@lists.osgeo.org To "OSGeo Discussions" discuss@lists.osgeo.org cc Subject Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] U.S. Department of Interior soliciting Ideas on improving business practices Hi Folks, The U.S Department of Interior has a website up soliciting ideas for improvement. Each idea gives registered users options to comment and vote on suggestions. There is a suggestion posted for the use of open source software, and I have just posted a suggestion for regular benchmarking of software ( commercial and open source) for OGC services and processing large datasets ( comments welcome!) . Doug, thank you for this information. One minor clarification on terminology (I will never tire): Using the wording "commercial and open source" to differentiate proprietary form free/open license models is misguiding as all Open Source software can also be used in commercial contexts and is thus also "commercial software". This has recently been clarified by the US Department of Defense available in a document [1], attachment 2 on page 5, §2 a): "In almost all cases, OSS meets the definition of “commercial computer software” and shall be given appropriate statutory preference in accordance with 10 USC 2377 (reference (b)) (see also FAR 2.101(b), 12.000, 12.101 (reference (c)); and DFARS 212.212, and 252.227-7014(a)(1) (reference (d)))." (I love to cite those guys, they manage to make everything look dead serious :-) The correct term to differentiate free and open source license models from proprietary license is models is "proprietary", and nothing but. Best regards, Arnulf. [1] http://cio-nii.defense.gov/sites/oss/2009OSS.pdf For those who might be interested in making suggestions or commenting on the existing suggestions, the website is: http://openinterior.ideascale.com/ Doug Doug Newcomb USFWS Raleigh, NC 919-856-4520 ext. 14 doug_newc...@fws.gov - The opinions I express are my own and are not representative of the official policy of the U.S.Fish and Wildlife Service or Dept. of the Interior. Life is too short for undocumented, proprietary data formats.___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss -- President OSGeo http://www.osgeo.org ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss -- Andrew Turner m: 248.982.3609 e: and...@highearthorbit.com t: @ajturner b: http://highearthorbit.com w: http://geocommons.com Introduction to Neogeography - http://oreilly.com/catalog/neogeography _
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] WorldCities database Free and OpenSource
Lester Caine wrote: António Rocha wrote: Greetings I'm doing a small tool to calculate distances between cities. I mean, I enter City of origin geographic position and city of destination geographic position and I calculate distances. The thing is, everytime I have to check at GOOGLE Earth a city position and it's getting to be a long a heavy task to do. I realized that, this guys http://www.assemblysys.com/dataservices/db_details.php?db=3 are distributing a database with cities geographic positions but this is PAID :( . What I wanted to know is if there is any tool/software/database free, open source where I can do exacly the same without having to pay for that. And even, maybe add a few cities positions and contribute to the project http://www.openstreetmap.org/ Also http://geonames.org Which has an API and downloadable database of placenames. Andrew ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo Humanitarian GIS guide
Hi - I just was looking over the good MapAction GIS Field guide (http://www.mapaction.org/content/view/183/59/) I was wondering if OSGeo had a comparable guide. It could talk about how to use cross-platform tools such as QGIS or others to utilize both open data sources like OpenStreetMap shapefiles, as well as web services like WFS/WMS for field operations. A more advanced section could specifically talk about setting up a WFS/WMS using OpenStreetMap and other data using something like GeoServer. The goal behind this guide would be to immediately give to volunteers in remotely, as well as responders in Haiti that have come to rely on OpenStreetMap as their data source on how to leverage OSGeo tools to pull down, host locally on servers, and update remotely. Just as an enticement - there are 8+ cities hosting CrisisCamps this coming Saturday. If you're local to one, I encourage you to show up and train people on OSGeo tools. Last weekend in DC there were 30+ people learning how to update OSM data using web based tools and QGIS. Thanks! Andrew -- Andrew Turner m: 248.982.3609 e: and...@highearthorbit.com t: @ajturner b: http://highearthorbit.com w: http://geocommons.com Introduction to Neogeography - http://oreilly.com/catalog/neogeography ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Anyone going to GeoInt this month?
Hey - I'll be there again! On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 11:32 AM, Michael P. Gerlek m...@lizardtech.com wrote: I'm going to be at the GeoInt conference in San Antonio in a couple weeks -- if a few others of you are are, maybe we could meet for lunch or something? -mpg ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss -- Andrew Turner mobile: 248.982.3609 and...@fortiusone.com http://highearthorbit.com http://geocommons.com Helping build the Geospatial Web Introduction to Neogeography - http://oreilly.com/catalog/neogeography ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo friendly countries to live in
On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 10:53 AM, P Kishorpunk.k...@gmail.com wrote: My feeling is (_feeling_, not an assertion backed by evidence) that the US govt. agencies stay out of supporting or not supporting any particular kind of software or technology. They use what they think is best, without creating a policy out of it, and generally let the provider and the consumer of technologies duke it out. Of course, I have no scientific evidence for this statement. But the proliferation of Canadian Blackberries in the US Senate and House is a fairly decent reflection of this. While things are getting better - mandates pushing open data, nominally open standards, and trying to build better procurement of Open-Source technology, lobbying rules much. For a solid example, see how GIS Standards as dictated by local governments: http://apb.directionsmag.com/archives/5599-Oregon-ESRI-ELA-and-the-Legislation-Behind-It.html http://arcweb.sos.state.or.us/rules/OARS_100/OAR_125/125_600.html I think Landon covered it well - many varied stakeholders, from software vendors, to support contracts, training, constituencies, legacy, funding (retooling) that prevent changing from what's currently in place. But it doesn't have to be this way. So as much as the US Federal government is a model to other governments in the benefits of sharing data - the more other governments adopt open-source open-standards, the more the US will be pressured to do the same. :) Andrew ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Re: Comparison between MapServer/OpenLayers and ESRI ArcIMS
On May 30, 2009, at 3:38 PM, Randy George rkgeo...@cadmaps.com wrote: Cloud options are looking interesting. http://aws.amazon.com/ec2/ Windows, Linux, Solaris options I imagine ESRI license entanglement with virtual servers could be a problem. But no problem at all with Open Source GIS stacks. No license to get tangled with load balancing and auto scaling where servers come and go as needed. Mostly I've seen small business interest since they tend to take overhead costs more seriously. It might be useful to include a Cloud based server solution addendum, because that would be less optimal for an ESRI vendor and could look good compared to in-house hardware. We found it much better to own our entire solution (GeoIQ) due to this. It's built either with our own pieces, or open-source pieces - so we can deploy it to cloud, appliances, whatever without concern for ToU, licensing, etc. It's definitely a huge boon for us as a 'business'. Unfortunately, medium and large organizations seem to have budget allocations already in place for the big ticket approach. But then in this economy even that could be changing. Yes, that is a questionably valid (and even provably invalid) assumption. Big ticket items kick in all kinds of departmental, IT team, budgetary, sustainability, etc. questions. They're looking for easy entry items that maybe they can even slip into their discretionary budgets without invoking too much beauracracy. Andrew ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Any gurus available?
Henri Bergius is a local that does a lot of interesting work around Geospatial tools and probably knows others in the community. Also, I would suggest peeking at Helsinki contributors to OSM to find more. Andrew On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 9:10 AM, Ari Jolma ari.jo...@tkk.fi wrote: Greetings, I'm organizing a small free GIS event April 21 here in Helsinki. It's a regular spring seminar of our professional GIS society and attracts perhaps 50 people. I was wondering if anybody with good knowledge of one of the more popular free geospatial software packages (Mapserver, OpenLayers, uDig, ...) and good presentation skills were in the neighborhood at that time and would be willing to give a show? Modest expenses will be covered. Regards, Ari -- Prof. Ari Jolma Environmental Management Information Technology Teknillinen Korkeakoulu / Helsinki University of Technology tel: +358 9 4511 address: POBox 5300, 02015 TKK, Finland Email: ari.jolma at tkk.fi URL: http://geoinformatics.tkk.fi ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss -- Andrew Turner mobile: 248.982.3609 and...@fortiusone.com http://highearthorbit.com http://geocommons.com Helping build the Geospatial Web Introduction to Neogeography - http://oreilly.com/catalog/neogeography ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Anyone interested in geocoding and routing?
On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 4:01 AM, Judit Mays [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jody Garnett schrieb: Fair enough - one thing I am interested in is having an API to interact with a range of geocoder implementations. I know the [EMAIL PROTECTED] list will remind me of OpenLS - but I am not sure if that has seen any adoption in the wild (although it looks like their is a new version comming out with a range of interesting sponsors behind it). OpenRouteService (http://www.openrouteservice.org/) seems to implement OpenLS. I'm not sure about their implementation being open source (I somehow doubt it, as it isn't stated as such). But in their terms of use they say: If you intend to use OpenRouteService in your own applications please contact us. We are interested in spreading the usage of OpenRouteService in academic and non-profit and Open Source projects. Weren't we in Africa and learn our lessons? An API is not good enough if the software/application is offline - or even on a slow connection. And SOAP?! There is an incredible need for an *open* and hopefully lightweight geocoder. Yes, this can have an API on top of it using whatever format - but needs to be able to run offline/locally if the data is available. I think OpenRouteService looks really promising, but based on brief interchanges they are not yet interested in actually sharing the source code yet. Claims of difficult to setup prevent them. Honestly, that is not a good reason - open-source obviously doesn't (yet) come with an expectation of being easy to setup. Hopefully they'll share the source and engine soon. Otherwise I'm confused on the Open* part of their name. Andrew ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Data Hosting For OSM PD?
What about S3? Wouldn't be very expensive. TeleScience may be another option. On Nov 7, 2008, at 1:11 PM, Landon Blake [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been working with a few of the folks from the Open Street Map. We are a group within the OSM community that is very interested in setting up a repository or pool to host the map data we contribute in a separate space, before it is uploaded to OSM. We'd like to do this so we can collaborate on and release our data in the public domain. This avoids a lot of the licensing problems and challenges that OSM is currently struggling with. We've got a tentative folder structure nailed down, at least for the time being. I'd like to know if there would be any interest at the OSGeo in providing some web server space for our repository. We don't need anything fancy. No database, no scripting, no special software. We just need a place to put folders and files. I'd be happy to discuss the proposed repository structure in more detail if the OSGeo was interested. I can start the repository with some space on my own site, but I think I will quickly become overwhelmed by the data and bandwidth requirements. If the OSGeo isn't interested our group can look into getting support from a University or other organization. At any rate, I thought this might be a good opportunity for the OSGeo to get involved in the free data side of the FOSS GIS equation. Landon Warning: Information provided via electronic media is not guaranteed against defects including translation and transmission errors. If the reader is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this information in error, please notify the sender immediately. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] The existence (and value of) clean geocoding tools?
It seems as though the where is a good geocoding engine typically devolves into either you need data, or it's tough, and here's an explicit explanation why. I'm surprised that there are rarely answers (or projects) that say, here's a project, it needs data, but just get it into this form, and it has these shortcomings but here's how to configure it. The 2002 Google Code contest is a good start, and so is the PostGIS based one. SRC open-sourced a C++ one, but I've heard mixed reviews. Just started playing with it myself: http://www.extendthereach.com/products/OSGeocoder.srct Anyways, seems like there is a severe need for a good, supported geocoder. It's a major missing piece in the Open-Source Geo stack. Andrew On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 7:44 AM, Stephen Woodbridge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: David Dearing wrote: Hi. I just recently stumbled across OSGeo and have poked around to try and get a feel for the different projects, but still have a lingering question. Forgive me if this isn't the appropriate channel to be asking this. It seems that there is a solid focus on mapping, image manipulation, and geometric processing at OSGeo. And, in the more broad world including non-open source projects, there are a lot of tools available for the mass production of geotagged or geocoded documents. However, the accuracy of these systems, while good, doesn't seem sufficient when accuracy is at a premium (from what I've seen they tend to focus on volume). Are there any existing tools that can be used to tag/code documents, perhaps sacrificing the mass-produced aspect for better accuracy? Have I just missed/overlooked some existing tool(s) that meet this description? Or, am I in the minority in wanting to produce fewer clean geocoded/tagged documents rather than many pretty good documents? Have you looked at http://ofb.net/~egnor/google.html http://www.pagcgeo.org/ Geocoding is NOT exact, in fact it deals with a very messy area of natural language parsing. While it is constrained more than free text, it still has to deal with all the issues of typos, abbreviations, punctuations, etc and then it has to match the user into to some vendor data. For example: matching AL 44, Alabama 44, AL-44, Alabama Highway 44, Highway 44, State Highway 44, Rt 44, and various other abbreviations for Highway, simple typo errors, adding N, N., North, S, S., South, etc designations to the Highway, adding Alt., Bus., Byp., etc and on it goes. You also need to deal with accented characters, that are sometimes entered without accents. In a geocoder, you typically have a standardizer that sort our all that craziness. Then when you load the geocoder, you standardize the vendor data and store it in a standard form. When you get a geocode request you standardize the incoming request and then try to match the standard form with the vendor data which is also in standard form. As an alternative to a standardizer some geocoders use statistical record match techniques. You can also you techniques like metaphone/soundex codes to do fuzzy searching and then use levensthein distance to score the possible matched results for how close they are to the request. You need to be prepared to handle multiple results to a query, for example you search for Oak St. but only find North Oak Street and South Oak Street. And all this can only happen after you have tagged some text in a document if you are doing tagging. You mention accuracy is important, well how do you determine what is right, remember the Oak St example above. Anyway this is a good place to discuss this topic. -Stephen Woodbridge http://imaptools.com/ ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss -- Andrew Turner mobile: 248.982.3609 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://highearthorbit.com http://mapufacture.com Helping build the Geospatial Web Introduction to Neogeography - http://oreilly.com/catalog/neogeography ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Shapefile lacking SRS information
You have a couple of options - one would be to just rasterize and register/geo-rectify the image and then trace or use as a basemap. Curiously, what is your goal with this data? Can you instead use other base maps such as OpenStreetMap (either as vector or rendered tiles)? On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 3:39 AM, Rafal Wawer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear Kjell, I am not an expert with GRASS, but form what I see in your e-mail, the shapefile itself (its geometry) seem to be OK. It si just lacking the SRS informaton. In Quantum GIS often (always?) happens, that the program does not read the ESRI WKT from *.prj file, hence you have to read it yourself and find the corresponding EPSG code on http://spatial-reference.org . Then you define it within layer's properties and that's it. I bet, there is similiar procedure in GRASS. Hope this helps a bit. Best regards: RAf Dr. Rafal Wawer K.U.Leuven RD Division SADL (Spatial Application Division) Celestijnenlaan 200e bus 2224 BE-3001 Leuven-Heverlee Belgium tel. 0032 16 329731 - Original Message - From: Kjell Are Refsvik [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: OSGeo Discussions discuss@lists.osgeo.org Sent: Monday, September 01, 2008 5:51 PM Subject: [OSGeo-Discuss] Shapefile lacking SRS information Hi, We communicated briefly this summer on issues relating to the conversion and creation of geodata. Looking through the emails from earlier this summer, I am very thankful for the time you spent, and hope that I am not intruding by asking one more: My status is that I am progressing to the point where I should be able to draw my own maps and have them included (mashed) with my web albums for photos soon. I am using UNIX shell-scripts to draw the maps I need based on a shapefile converted to .csv and geodata extracted from my photos: http://www.ia-stud.hiof.no/~kjellare/misc/20080829_gnuplot_status.png Trying to get hold of better maps, I have been trying to get some old shapefiles to work, but without success. They appear to have lost their Spacial Reference System: http://www.ia-stud.hiof.no/~kjellare/misc/20080901_SRS.png ...and I was just wondering - is it possible to repair them? Best regards, Kjell Are Refsvik - Graduate Student, Information Technology Faculty of Computer Sciences Østfold University College, Norway email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mobile: +47 405 50 454 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Can you get to FOSS4G2009 on this date?
On Sat, Aug 30, 2008 at 6:51 AM, Cameron Shorter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In Sydney we are finalising venue and date details and want feedback on whether any specific dates are going to clash. If there are important Geospatial events for 2009 happening in your region, could you please tell us when and where they are and what attendees are likely to be effected. (we are keeping track of these dates at: http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/FOSS4G_2009_Marketing_Plan#Related_Conferences ) The key dates we are considering are: 17 - 21 Nov 2009 23 - 27 Nov 2009 (US Thanksgiving is 26 Nov 2009. Is this a showstopper?) 20 - 24 Oct 2009 I wouldn't say US Thanksgiving is a showstopper, but I will assume would definitely prohibit many potential attendees from the US. There is a case to be made why not have Thanksgiving in AU?! but in reality the US holiday is so wrapped up with many families together that this kind of scheduling is unrealistic. So combining a potentially limiting holiday along with the long distance, both potentially dropping number of interested attendees, I would recommend against the conflict. My suggestion is the October 20-24 date - it's also far enough out that it doesn't even come up against Thanksgiving travel. Thoughts from other Americans? Andrew ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[OSGeo-Discuss] registration at foss4g
I would suggest that a full outline of the process be added to the registration page, or as a confirmation of the web registration in a follow-up screen and email covering what to expect for the following steps. Obviously the 240 Early Bird registrants are highly motivated people that will follow-up on making sure their registration goes through. However, I would be concerned about future registrations that are equally confused and less motivated to wade through the 5 step process, potentially losing interested attendees. Looking forward to the great conference! Andrew On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 4:12 PM, Gavin Fleming [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As the Hitchhikers' Guide states, Don't Panic! Some clarification of the process is in order, please bear with us... 1) Register on the conference website. i.e. choose a conference package. Then hang back for a bit. 2) The conference organisers, PeopleSA, are notified and they send you a form. 3) You fill in the form and send it back. It specifies your choices for accommodation, gala dinner, etc. that could not be captured on the conference website. 4) PeopleSA then send you an invoice for registration, accommodation (if you choose from their offerings), gala dinner, etc. with a reference code. 5) You then proceed to pay. If by credit card, then here, where you will be asked for the reference code on your invoice: http://www.psaevents.co.za/Events/Foss4g/registration.aspx. Early birds: You are being asked to send your forms back urgently so you can get an invoice in short order. The hurry now is to secure accommodation as part of the conference block booking. The hold on that is released this week. There is nothing we can do about that. Cape Town is really bustling that time of year and hotels won't keep blocks on hold any longer. There is every likelihood that rooms at those hotels will still be available after the hold is lifted and they WILL be at the conference rate. So, try to fill in your form and pay this week as requested. But if you don't manage, you'll most likely still get your hotel and if you pay within a month of invoice, you'll STILL GET YOUR EARLY BIRD REGISTRATION RATE. Hope that helps Gavin Fleming FOSS4G2008 conference chair From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Jeroen Ticheler Sent: Tue 2008/06/24 05:06 PM To: OSGeo Discussions Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] registration at foss4g Hi Andrea, I had the same thing :-) Had to fill out the form while I also registered online. I guess the form is the formal sealing of the deal although I was also confused a bit. You still need to register for other workshops you want to attend and for the gala dinner. Ciao, Jeroen On Jun 24, 2008, at 3:45 PM, andrea antonello wrote: Hi, that will sound strange, but indeed I have some problems in registering at Foss4g. I did my registration process with a workshop presenter code, which should mean I have full discount (do both workshop predenters have full discount?). Well, the registration ended up in... nothing. No great, you subscribed or similar. Now, after some time, this email comes (ok, the header tells me they had some problems) in which I am asked to send a fax and do my payment by means of today to get the early bird. Since one of the presenters probably will have to pay, I tried to understand from the website, tried to contact organisers and reviewers, but got no answer. Since no one else is bothering, I assume I'm the only one with this problem. So could someone with clear ideas in mind give me some feedback please? Thanks, Andrea ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
