Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] [Board] Not graduated OSGeo project...
On 21/10/16 08:33, Massimiliano Cannata wrote: > To me using PROJECT for outreach activities is misleading and confusing. That may actually just be a matter of language. Certainly rules relating to the development of software products do not apply to the development of open source data or the development of material for promoting and training participants in ANY of those activities, but a 'project' is a distinct package of activity aiming towards a specific result. Now the initial 'complaint' is that the current links to projects to promote the other activities should not be shown on the front page, and that is patently wrong. OSGeo live is clearly a 'project' providing a package of material from all the other projects, and I would like to see that 'pushed' a little more and it could potentially be used to produce an income from the provision of physical disks. Public Geospatial Data and Education and Curriculum do seem to have 'projects' buried somewhere within their pages of text? It would be nice project to create a front end to land on that much better provides a display of available open source data and documents. There is a substantial and growing library of openly available geosource data, but accessing it in a way that links to the available software would be a useful project. -- Lester Caine - G8HFL - Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=contact L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://lsces.co.uk EnquirySolve - http://enquirysolve.com/ Model Engineers Digital Workshop - http://medw.co.uk Rainbow Digital Media - http://rainbowdigitalmedia.co.uk ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] The importance of a project's license
Markus Neteler wrote: A project can decide what makes the most sense for them. Note that for long-term projects a license change is rather difficult to realize (especially if older contributors are no longer traceable..). Just check out how long it's taking on openstreetmap ... -- Lester Caine - G8HFL - Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=contact L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://lsces.co.uk EnquirySolve - http://enquirysolve.com/ Model Engineers Digital Workshop - http://medw.co.uk Rainbow Digital Media - http://rainbowdigitalmedia.co.uk ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Open Source vs Closed source
Bob Basques wrote: We've got a discussion going on in the office about the subject line. I was wondering if folks here had any pointers to online information, both from a superficial view (low detail level, IE Manager speak) as well as some somewhat higher level information about costs, in the short term/ long term, etc. How long is a piece of string? . ;) What sort of information are you looking for? There is a growing catalog of freely available data from various sources. The UK government has just released some nice raster and tabular data, and the US government makes conciderable more freely available. And there are plenty of open source software packages that will work with it. So what are you looking for? -- Lester Caine - G8HFL - Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=contact L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://lsces.co.uk EnquirySolve - http://enquirysolve.com/ Model Engineers Digital Workshop - http://medw.co.uk// Firebird - http://www.firebirdsql.org/index.php ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] WorldCities database Free and OpenSource
António Rocha wrote: Greetings I'm doing a small tool to calculate distances between cities. I mean, I enter City of origin geographic position and city of destination geographic position and I calculate distances. The thing is, everytime I have to check at GOOGLE Earth a city position and it's getting to be a long a heavy task to do. I realized that, this guys http://www.assemblysys.com/dataservices/db_details.php?db=3 are distributing a database with cities geographic positions but this is PAID :( . What I wanted to know is if there is any tool/software/database free, open source where I can do exacly the same without having to pay for that. And even, maybe add a few cities positions and contribute to the project http://www.openstreetmap.org/ -- Lester Caine - G8HFL - Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=contact L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://lsces.co.uk EnquirySolve - http://enquirysolve.com/ Model Engineers Digital Workshop - http://medw.co.uk// Firebird - http://www.firebirdsql.org/index.php ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] looking for OS softwre to stitch aerial photos automatically
Tim Waters wrote: On 23 January 2010 13:36, Eduardo Kanegae ekane...@gmail.com wrote: Check http://regima.dpi.inpe.br/ - AUTOMATIC IMAGE REGISTRATION AND MOSAICKING SYSTEM Not open source though, is it? And also can only be *used* for research or educational purposes only. Maybe since they have last updated it in 2006 we should give them a poke about freeing it up? http://www.vextrasoft.com/rasterstitch.htm Not open source, but also not very expensive. I ended up buying a copy since I simply could not find an alternative. It works well for all the material I stitch together. -- Lester Caine - G8HFL - Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=contact L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://lsces.co.uk EnquirySolve - http://enquirysolve.com/ Model Engineers Digital Workshop - http://medw.co.uk// Firebird - http://www.firebirdsql.org/index.php ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Raster data on a DBMS
Lucena, Ivan wrote: That would reduce the complexity a lot. It would be *just* 80 files. I probably don't even need a separate then in folder. I could also generate pyramids overlay on those. That would increase the data storage a little: 80 files 80x720x360x250x2x2=2073600 Does anybody advocate Geoserver, Mapserver, ArcServer, Imageserver, tile cache, openlayers or others? Or should I use raster or database for that? I think the subject of this thread is the real problem? Raster DATA. Raster information is only images. They require some sort of processing to extract any data from them? Data overlays for raster images will help to provide methods of searching for features and then displaying the correct area of the raster image? Timestamp data to identify a sequence of images would also be best stored in a database, with features and locations extracted from particular images stored along with links to the correct raster image. So the raster images are stored as files, and the data relating to them in a database? -- Lester Caine - G8HFL - Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/lsces/wiki/?page=contact L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://lsces.co.uk EnquirySolve - http://enquirysolve.com/ Model Engineers Digital Workshop - http://medw.co.uk// Firebird - http://www.firebirdsql.org/index.php ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Thematic Mapping Engine as Open Source?
Chris Puttick wrote: - Lester Caine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Christopher Schmidt wrote: On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 05:40:41PM +0200, Paolo Cavallini wrote: Bjorn Sandvik ha scritto: I'll consider the pros and cons between different licenses. I don't have commercial interests, but I would like the project to be sustainable. I've changed my mind about using SourceForge, - I agree that Google Code is more suitable. Please note: - GPL is more widely used Than what? In any case, GPL is designed to prevent use of the software in a specific set of contexts. I maintain my position that for Javascript Libraries, the GPL is confusing at best, and tends to hurt uptake of an open source project, in my experience. (ExtJS is a strong counter example of a JS library which is GPL licensed -- but they are not an open source project, just open source code.) The GPL is a fine license for many things, I just think that open souce Javascript Libraries isn't among them. GPL is appropriate if you do not want other people to make money out of your effort. LGPL may be more appropriate for Libraries but only after reading http://www.gnu.org/licenses/why-not-lgpl.html Surely you mean people not making money out of selling your efforts without making a contribution back? Plenty of people make money from selling services around GPL software without breaching the licence and I don't think many of those developing GPL software begrudge that. No I was referring to instances where commercial companies take source code and data and market it as their own work. There are a few examples where open source data has been 'stolen' legally and the courts have upheld no wrong doing, so some licence with a few teeth is appropriate ;) -- Lester Caine - G8HFL - Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/lsces/wiki/?page=contact L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://lsces.co.uk EnquirySolve - http://enquirysolve.com/ Model Engineers Digital Workshop - http://medw.co.uk// Firebird - http://www.firebirdsql.org/index.php ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Re: Sign the Hague declaration
P Kishor wrote: free and open digital standards is all well and good but a meaningless concept. Standard for what? But disagree there. Switching from M$ documents to 'real' open source documents and dropping licensed graphical data in favour of OSM and other free map data opens the door to 'Standardising' on something that we can all cooperate on. It still is not clear what the something is... are you advocating a standard for a license or a standard for a format? Are you talking about standards in office-productivity applications (word-processing, spreadsheet, presentation software) or in databases (should we boycott everyone who uses Oracle and Ingres?) or remote sensing (does IDL go out the window?) or medical imaging or audio or video or ... you get the picture. Let me repeat my question. Standard for what? Simply a standard for what we are looking to cooperate on. OSM has a rather woolly standard for mapping data, it does not cost a penny to obtain it, and it has a considerable amount of free data behind it. It is evolving and expanding as needs dictate. SQL is another area where the 'standard' costs an arm and a leg, but there are very good implementations to access it that are freely available. If my customer insists on Oracle then so be it, they pay all the additional costs, but my open source equivalent - Firebird - would do the same job for my applications - without the additional costs. There is no need for the billions spent on ISO. We just need to agree on what we are doing and publish that information somewhere and cooperate in maintaining it? -- Lester Caine - G8HFL - Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/lsces/wiki/?page=contact L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://lsces.co.uk EnquirySolve - http://enquirysolve.com/ Model Engineers Digital Workshop - http://medw.co.uk// Firebird - http://www.firebirdsql.org/index.php ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Re: Sign the Hague declaration
Fee, James wrote: Lester Caine wrote: It 'somewhat annoys me' when I receive an M$ document from a council and am expected to edit and return it. They get back a PDF because I know that the format will be as I laid it out. You must not mean a M$ Office Open XML document since it is of course and open standard. *shrug* Well since M$ do not have any software that actually produces OOXML documents yet At least not to the format submitted to ISO ;) The main problem THERE of cause is that ISO standards are not free and open anyway. HOW much does a copy cost :) -- Lester Caine - G8HFL - Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/lsces/wiki/?page=contact L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://lsces.co.uk EnquirySolve - http://enquirysolve.com/ Model Engineers Digital Workshop - http://medw.co.uk// Firebird - http://www.firebirdsql.org/index.php ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo Presence On Wikipedia
Landon Blake wrote: We could set up a wiki page to coordinate Wikipedia entries we help to maintain, and I could start by migrating some of the appropriate definition entries from the dictionary to Wikipedia. Any thoughts or comments? Is anyone else interested in this? (Is it a good idea?) You would think the idea is good, but Wikipedia has a major problem with arrogance :( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_open_source_software_packages#Geographic_information_system is a starting point for references to software, but if the package is not 'notable' it will be killed as will probably happen with http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mapnik And more critically http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:What_Wikipedia_is_not#Wikipedia_is_not_a_dictionary PREVENTS using it as a repository of terms :( So perhaps we need a Openpedia to store all the useful information. ( And I admit to being pissed off with wikipedia because they just culled an article I wrote on an open source CMS package, while several other 'advertisements' remain - if you LIST open source projects then they should all be listed - mapnik and other packages should ALL be present ? ) -- Lester Caine - G8HFL - Contact - http://home.lsces.co.uk/lsces/wiki/?page=contact L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://home.lsces.co.uk MEDW - http://home.lsces.co.uk/ModelEngineersDigitalWorkshop/ Firebird - http://www.firebirdsql.org/index.php ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
