[OSGeo-Discuss] PostGIS 3.4.3 Released

[Paul Ramsey via Discuss]

http://postgis.net/2024/09/PostGIS-3.4.3/

The PostGIS team is pleased to release PostGIS 3.4.3! This release is
a maintenance and bug fix release.

Issues Closed:

 - #5766, Always report invalid non-null MBR of universal face (Sandro Santilli)
 - #5709, Fix loose mbr in topology.face on ST_ChangeEdgeGeom (Sandro Santilli)
 - #5698, Fix robustness issue splitting line by vertex very close to endpoints,
  affecting topology population functions (Sandro Santilli)
 - #5649, ST_Value should return NULL on missing band (Paul Ramsey)
 - #5677, ST_Union(geom[]) should unary union single entry arrays (Paul Ramsey)
 - #5679, Remove spurious COMMIT statements from sfcgal script
  (Sandro Santilli, Loïc Bartoletti)
 - #5680, Fix populate_topology_layer with standard_conforming_strings
  set to off (Sandro Santilli)
 - #5589, ST_3DDistance error for shared first point (Paul Ramsey)
 - #5686, ST_NumInteriorRings and Triangle crash (Paul Ramsey)
 - #5666, Build reproducibility: timestamps
  in extension upgrade SQL scripts (James Addison)
 - #5671, Bug in ST_Area function with use_spheroid=false
  (Paul Ramsey, Regina Obe)
 - #5687, Don't rely on search_path to determine postgis schema
   Fix for PG17 security change (Regina Obe)
 - #5695, [address_standardizer_data_us] standardize_address
  incorrect handling of directionals (Regina Obe)
 - #5653, Do not simplify away points when linestring doubles back on
  itself (Paul Ramsey)
 - #5720, Correctly mangle special column names in shp2pgsql (Paul Ramsey)
 - #5734, Estimate geography extent more correctly (Paul Ramsey)
 - #5752, ST_ClosestPoint(geography) error (Paul Ramsey)
 - #5740, ST_DistanceSpheroid(geometry) incorrectly handles polygons
(Paul Ramsey)
 - #5765, Handle nearly co-linear edges with slightly less slop (Paul Ramsey)
 - #5745, St_AsLatLonText rounding errors (Paul Ramsey)
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] PostGIS Patch Releases

[Paul Ramsey via Discuss]

Sorry, this reply didn't hit my main inbox.

On Fri, Feb 9, 2024 at 5:50 AM Greg Troxel  wrote:
>
> > Of particular interest to those distributing PostGIS on RHEL variants,
> > these fixes include a patch to allow XML parsing to work with the
> > latest libxml2 updates being pushed to RHEL.
>
> I don't think it is just RHEL.  As I understand it, it's any system with
> an up-to-date libxml2.  That includes pkgsrc too.
>
> Would the 3.4.1 tests have failed if built with new libxml2?  Or would
> 3.4.1 have failed to build at all?

Yes, the regression tests should have failed once you updated to a
"fixed" libxml.

> Are other systems not applying what I understand to be a security fix?
> Or do they have some other patch?

They may have another patch. If you saw your 3.4.1 was still
regressing successfully in the presence of the security updates, it
speaks to maybe the RHEL changes being the security fix and some
perhaps ill-considered other bits that change the behaviour of the
SAX1 parser in the presence of namespaced tags. (which is what broke
our parsing).

ATB,

P
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[OSGeo-Discuss] PostGIS Patch Releases

[Paul Ramsey via Discuss]

The PostGIS development team is pleased to provide bug fix releases 3.4.2, 
3.3.6, 3.2.7, 3.1.11, 3.0.11, 2.5.10.

Please refer to the links below for more information about the issues resolved 
by these releases.

https://git.osgeo.org/gitea/postgis/postgis/raw/tag/3.4.1/NEWS
https://git.osgeo.org/gitea/postgis/postgis/raw/tag/3.3.6/NEWS
https://git.osgeo.org/gitea/postgis/postgis/raw/tag/3.2.7/NEWS
https://git.osgeo.org/gitea/postgis/postgis/raw/tag/3.1.11/NEWS
https://git.osgeo.org/gitea/postgis/postgis/raw/tag/3.0.11/NEWS
https://git.osgeo.org/gitea/postgis/postgis/raw/tag/2.5.10/NEWS

Of particular interest to those distributing PostGIS on RHEL variants, these 
fixes include a patch to allow XML parsing to work with the latest libxml2 
updates being pushed to RHEL. 

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[OSGeo-Discuss] PostGIS Day 2023, CFP Ending!

[Paul Ramsey via Discuss]

Hello all friendly users of PostGIS!
I just wanted to remind you all that the Call for Papers for PostGIS Day 
(coming up on Nov 16) is ending today, and we really really would love to hear 
your story of PostGIS. What your application is and how it leverages PostGIS? 
Clever SQL you’ve found for doing fun things with PostGIS? Interesting 
under-the-covers detail about PostGIS?

https://www.crunchydata.com/community/events/postgis-day-2023

We hope you can submit and join us!
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[OSGeo-Discuss] PostGIS Day is Thursday! 2022-11-17

[Paul Ramsey via Discuss]

If you haven't signed up for PostGIS day, and you're planning to dip in to see 
this once-a-year online festival of PostGIS, now would be a good time to sign 
up! We have over 20 great speakers, and a non-stop dawn to dusk agenda, so we 
hope you can make it!

https://info.crunchydata.com/postgis-day-2022
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[OSGeo-Discuss] GEOS 3.11.0 Released

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Happy Canada Day! 🇨🇦

The 3.11.0 release of GEOS is now available to download at 
http://libgeos.org/usage/download/

This release includes new features for building "concave hulls" for both point 
and polygon input. For polygon input, the hull will be guaranteed to not cross 
into the interiors of the input polygons.

The line merger has been enhanced to support a mode that only merges lines 
which share orientation.

The offset curve algorithm has been updated to be more reliable for different 
kinds of semi-degenerate inputs, and may output different curves than the 
previous implementation, for those kinds of inputs. For "normal" inputs, the 
results should look very much like the old implementation.

As usual, numerous bugs have been fixed, and a few performance improvements 
discovered and implemented.

- New things:
  - OffsetCurve (GH-530, Paul Ramsey/Martin Davis)
  - ConcaveHull (GH-549, Paul Ramsey/Martin Davis)
  - PolygonHull (GH-603, Paul Ramsey/Martin Davis)
  - LineMerger directed option (GH-597, Sergei Sh)
  - CAPI: GEOSHilbertCode (GH-556, Brendan Ward)
  - CAPI: GEOSGeom_createRectangle (GH-558, Brendan Ward)
  - CAPI: GEOSGeom_transformXY (GH-563, Dan Baston/Brendan Ward)
  - CAPI: GEOSRemoveRepeatedPoints (GH-599, Paul Ramsey)
  - CAPI: GEOSLineMergeDirected (GH-597, Sergei Sh)
  - CAPI: setFixStructure for WKB/WKT readers to automatically repair
structural errors in the input (GH-639, Paul Ramsey)

- Fixes/Improvements:
  - Fix unaryUnion to avoid segfault with empty polygon (GH-501, Mike Taves)
  - Fix SnapRoundingNoder to use tolerance in noding; also fixes 
GeometryPrecisionReducer (GH-504, Sergei)
  - Allow direct setting of grid size (GH-513, Martin Davis)
  - Allow GEOS to be used as a CMake subproject (GH-518, Robert Coup)
  - Remove .inl inline files in favour of header declaration (GH-543, Paul 
Ramsey)
  - Add SnappingNoder seeding (Martin Davis)
  - Add OverlayNG area check heuristic (JTS-812, Paul Ramsey)
  - Fix RelateOp (and intersects predicate) for lines with intersections very 
near boundary (GH-570, Martin Davis)
  - Fix IsValidOp to handle repeated node points (JTS-845, Martin Davis)
  - Fix IsSimpleOp to handle closed LineStrings with repeated endpoints 
(JTS-851, Martin Davis)
  - Fix LengthIndexedLine (via LengthLocationMap fix) (JTS-859, Martin Davis)
  - Fix PolygonHoleJoiner (JTS-862, Martin Davis)
  - Improve `test_geos_unit` application error checking and reporting
  - Fix MinimumDiameter getMinimumRectangle for flat input (JTS-875, Martin 
Davis)
  - Fix BufferOp inverted ring check (JTS-878, Martin Davis)
  - Fix OverlayNG geomunion to avoid lines in result (Martin Davis)



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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] avoiding email filters- Poll: Change FOSS4G structure to have some continuity of organization and management

[Paul Ramsey via Discuss]

I am, naturally of two minds about this.

As Sanghee says, the act of pulling together a local conference can be one that 
draws together people from multiple parts of the local geo ecosystem, makes new 
connections that might never be made. Gathering up public, private, and NGO 
sponsors in your local area, and having them all experience the FOSS4G thing, 
something they might not have otherwise gotten to be a part of... it requires a 
local commitment, and local connections, to make it happen. 

Moving to a centralized system, where the locale is primarily a source of a 
venue, an interesting city and some novel culinary options, loses a lot of 
that. I appreciated the turn-key aspect of FOSS4G-NA when LocationTech was 
carrying the organizing load, but the event itself became denatured somehow. It 
lacked the organic connections it had when it was (earlier) in Minnesota or 
(later) in San Diego. 

There will be a loss.

On the other hand (of course), this doesn't come for free. The very uniqueness 
and organicness flows from the "figuring things out on the fly and making the 
connections needed" that local organizers go through. The very thing that 
provides the magic spark, burns them down to the ground.

And the supply of those people, is finite. We've gotten on a long time (at 
least 5 years longer than I would predicted!) with people continuing to step up 
and volunteer for the load. It may be that Covid and the "virtual conference" 
has been what finally killed the supply of enthusiasm. I know myself that part 
of the "fun" of volunteering for the grind was knowing the world was going to 
come to town. When the world is just "dialing in", the sense of reward is (I 
think) a lot lower for organizers. One of the ego-gratifying aspects of 
organizing the conference is being able to see your local contacts go "whoa, 
this is really real, I thought you were always just blowing smoke" as they 
wander through a hall full of 1000 open source geospatial advocates.

Anyways, lots of words to no great conclusion. I think a central organization 
would be more "sustainable" but potentially deterimental to the ethos of the 
thing. Also, very very very very dependent on finding the right resource to 
actually do the centralized work. It could also be a disaster in the wrong 
hands and kill the whole thing dead forever.

ATB,
P


> On Feb 17, 2022, at 9:25 PM, Eli Adam  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> You're all listed as current conference committee members, 
> https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Conference_Committee#Current_Members.  I haven't 
> heard from you on the conference list poll.  Here is the original if you 
> missed it, 
> https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/conference_dev/2022-February/005740.html
> 
> Can you share your thoughts?  Preferably on the list, falling back offlist.  
> 
> Best regards, Eli
> 
> -- Forwarded message -
> From: Eli Adam 
> Date: Thu, Feb 17, 2022 at 9:02 PM
> Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] [OSGeo-Conf] Poll: Change FOSS4G structure to 
> have some continuity of organization and management
> To: OSGeo-Conf 
> 
> 
> Hello all,
> 
> It has been two weeks on this poll and we have heard from 7 of 19 voting 
> members or 37%.  63% have not responded.  
> 
> Till, Peter, David B, Maria B, Vasile, David F, Gavin, Claude, Venkatesh, 
> Paul, Msilikale, and Mark have not responded (or I missed it).  Do any of you 
> have an opinion on this matter?  
> 
> Some of the best ideas and contributions to the conference committee have 
> come from non-voting members and that remains a possibility.  In my mind 
> Jeroen has provided valuable insight on conferences for ten years or more.  I 
> greatly value that.  The focus on voting members is to try to get responses 
> and that the conference committee has had difficulty operating and is 
> sometimes unwieldy.  If the voting members are unable to operate (or even 
> decide if they want to try operating on something), then we don't have to 
> waste time on it.  
> 
> Best regards, Eli
> 
> 
> On Tue, Feb 8, 2022 at 1:25 PM Bruce Bannerman via Discuss 
>  wrote:
> Well said Sanghee.
> 
> As a former member of the LOC for FOSS4G-2009 I agree with the local 
> community development argument, though in our case it led to a lot of 
> burn-out.
> 
> There is also the practicality of finding a conference organiser that can 
> operate effectively anywhere in the world.
> 
> Should the alternate approach go through, significant thought also needs to 
> go into the procurement process to avoid the very real potential for 
> corruption.
> 
> Kind regards,
> 
> Bruce
> 
>> On 9 Feb 2022, at 01:28, 신상희 via Discuss  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Hi all, 
>> 
>> I prefer option 1. 
>> 
>> If this poll was asked just after FOSS4G Seoul 2015, I would have selected 
>> option 2 without any hesitations. 
>> 
>> However I now realize that I, LOC members, and local community had learned a 
>> lot by going through the difficulties of preparing the event altogether. 
>> That exp

[OSGeo-Discuss] GEOS 3.10.2 Released

[Paul Ramsey via Discuss]

The latest patch release of GEOS is now available!

http://libgeos.org/usage/download/

Changes in 3.10.2
2022-01-15

- Fixes/Improvements:
  - Fix crash in MonotoneChain with empty CoordinateSequence (GH-539, Sandro 
Santilli)
  - Fix crash in GeoJSONWriter in case of empty points (TRAC-1139, Paul Ramsey)
  - Improve BuildArea performance (TRAC-1122, Sandro Santilli)
  - Fix unaryUnion to avoid segfault with empty polygon (GH-501, Mike Taves)
  - Fix memory leak on exception in prepared geometry (GH-506, Dan Baston)
  - Iterator invalidation in rare cases (GH-508, Momtchil Momtchev)
  - Infinite loop on collapsed input to MaximumInscribedCircle (Paul Ramsey)
  - Write LinearRing to GeoJSON as LineString (TRAC-1140, Paul Ramsey)
  - Fix PolygonEarClipper to handle collapsed corners (GH-526, Martin Davis)
  - Fix GEOSSTRtree_remove for empty tree (GH-544, Dan Baston)
  - Fix crash on query of STRtree with removed items (GH-545, Dan Baston)

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[OSGeo-Discuss] GEOS 3.10.0 Released

[Paul Ramsey via Discuss]

The GEOS PSC is somewhat amused to set the 3.10.0 release of GEOS free
to fly the skies of the digisphere, bringing valid geometries and fast
operations to entities everywhere.

https://trac.osgeo.org/geos/

Headline changes for this release include:
* Continuing performance improvements, particularly in the in-memory
STRTree, and new C-API functions for reading from / writing to GEOS
objects from in-memory buffers. Because it is a core algorithm for
other processes, the index improvement provides a speed-up to
operations across the library.
* Net-new algorithm for Validity checking that speed up testing of
validity, through a more step-wise approach with short-circuiting.
* A new algorithm for Validity enforcement that uses ring containment
logic to determine polygon area membership, for some "more reasonable"
results in complex ring overlapping cases.
* A triangulation routine for polygons, that provides attractive
constrained Delaunay triangulations.

For those with a nose for details, the full NEWS entry follows.

Thank you for using GEOS,
And your help in its development,
The Whole GEOS PSC

== NEWS 

- New things:
  - CAPI: GEOSDistanceWithin, GEOSPreparedDistanceWithin
  (#1124, Sandro Santilli)
  - Output WKT using positional precision with the ryu
library (#868, Paul Ramsey)
  - geosop CLI for GEOS (Martin Davis)
  - Full doxygen of the C-API (Paul Ramsey)
  - GeometryFixer class for validity enforcement (Martin Davis, Paul Ramsey)
  - CAPI: GEOSDensify (Brendan Ward)
  - CAPI: GEOSCoordSeq_copyFromArrays, GEOSCoordSeq_copyFromBuffer,
  GEOSCoordSeq_copyToArrays, GEOSCoordSeq_copyToBuffer (Daniel Baston)
  - CAPI: GEOSMakeValidWithParams new validity enforcement approach from
  https://github.com/locationtech/jts/pull/704, uses GeometryFixer
  (Paul Ramsey, Martin Davis)
  - CAPI: GEOSWKBWriter_getFlavor, GEOSWKBWriter_setFlavor support
  outputting ISO or Extended WKB flavors (#466, Paul Ramsey)
  - CAPI: GEOSConstrainedDelaunayTriangulation, builds a constrained
  triangulation of an input Polygon or MultiPolygon,
  returning a GeometryCollection(Polygon) of the triangles.

- Fixes/Improvements:
  - Preserve ordering of lines in overlay results (Martin Davis)
  - Check for invalid geometry before fixing polygonal result in Densifier
and DPSimplifier (Martin Davis)
  - Fix overlay handling of flat interior lines (JTS-685, Martin Davis)
  - Fix IsValidOp to correctly report invalid nested MultiPolygons
(#1112, Martin Davis)
  - Fix BufferOp to avoid artifacts in certain polygon buffers (#1101,
Martin Davis)
  - Fix IsValidOp to correctly report certain kinds of invalid
LinearRings (Martin Davis)
  - Improve STRtree performance through TemplateSTRtree implementation
(Daniel Baston)
  - Fix DiscreteFrechetDistance to use initial points of input lines
(#1128, Martin Davis)

- Changes:
  - Autoconf build system is dropped in favour of CMake
See README.md and INSTALL.md for examples of usage
  - Libtool is no longer used for in favour of CMake
Therefor libgeos.la is no longer built/installed
  - #1094, #1090: Drop inlines.cpp to address duplicate symbols on
many platforms
(Regina Obe)
  - GH475: Do not return NaN from GEOSProjectNormalized_r (Paul Ramsey)
  - GH442: BufferOp now returns unique_ptr result (Paul Ramsey)
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] GEOS 3.8.2 Released

[Paul Ramsey]

On Sat, Apr 10, 2021 at 2:38 PM Alexandre Neto 
wrote:

> Probably not the right place or topic to ask, but here it goes... Is there
> a formal LTR version for GEOS?
>

No, we can barely handle the formality around cutting releases without
getting all formal about "long term" versus other stuff. Mostly new
releases are new features and faster old features, and only occasionally is
there anything backwards changing (the 3.9 overlay had some minor behaviour
changes, but not enough to warrant a 4.0 release).


> Or the 3.8.2 patch is only happening because of all the brand new
> precision feature on 3.9.x?
>

No, we try to backport things that are back-portable, because we recognize
that distros sometimes peg versions, even though upgrading is usually a
safe bet. 3.8.2 is just because that branch had accumulated a lot of fixes
without a release.

P


>
> The reason I ask is that conda-forge will skip this patch because there's
> already an higher version available.
>
> I wouldn't mind creating and maintaining a LTR branch on GEOS feedstock
> (the conda forge recipe), so that other packages (like QGIS) can use it if
> necessary.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Alexandre Neto
>
>
> A sábado, 10/04/2021, 19:25, Paul Ramsey 
> escreveu:
>
>> The latest stable release of the 3.8 series includes a number of fixes
>> for crash cases, so worth immediate upgrade for anyone using the 3.8
>> series.
>>
>> http://download.osgeo.org/geos/geos-3.8.2.tar.bz2
>>
>> Changes in 3.8.2
>> 2021-04-10
>>
>> - Bug fixes / improvements
>>
>>   - Fix Voronoi polygons robustness issue (#976)
>>   - Fix segfault in SimplePointInAreaLocator caused by casting
>> MultiPolygon to Polygon (#1047, Oliver Tan)
>>   - DistanceOp against geometry with empty components
>> crashes (#1026, Paul Ramsey)
>>   - Fix buffer fillet (JTS-526, #743, Paul Ramsey)
>>   - Remove undefined behaviour in CAPI (#1021, Greg Troxel)
>>   - WKT writing of MULTIPOINT with EMPTY component crash (#1027, Paul
>> Ramsey)
>>   - Fix buffering problem (#1022, JTS-525, Paul Ramsey)
>>   - Fix segfault in GEOSInterpolate against empty eollections (#1055,
>> Sandro Santilli)
>>   - Fix GEOSProjectNormalized return -1 on exception (#1058, Joris Van
>> den Bossche)
>>   - Fix memory management quirk in CAPI (#1050, Paul Ramsey)
>>   - Allow build on Apple ARM64 (Taras Zakharko)
>>   - Fix crash in GEOSPreparedIntersects and GEOSPreparedContains for
>> POINT EMPTY input (Even Rouault)
>>
>> Also note that the 3.9 series is compatible with 3.8 so if you have the
>> opportunity to upgrade, you can take advantage of the many performance and
>> reliability improvements in 3.9.
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[OSGeo-Discuss] GEOS 3.8.2 Released

[Paul Ramsey]

The latest stable release of the 3.8 series includes a number of fixes for 
crash cases, so worth immediate upgrade for anyone using the 3.8 series. 

http://download.osgeo.org/geos/geos-3.8.2.tar.bz2

Changes in 3.8.2
2021-04-10

- Bug fixes / improvements

  - Fix Voronoi polygons robustness issue (#976)
  - Fix segfault in SimplePointInAreaLocator caused by casting
MultiPolygon to Polygon (#1047, Oliver Tan)
  - DistanceOp against geometry with empty components
crashes (#1026, Paul Ramsey)
  - Fix buffer fillet (JTS-526, #743, Paul Ramsey)
  - Remove undefined behaviour in CAPI (#1021, Greg Troxel)
  - WKT writing of MULTIPOINT with EMPTY component crash (#1027, Paul Ramsey)
  - Fix buffering problem (#1022, JTS-525, Paul Ramsey)
  - Fix segfault in GEOSInterpolate against empty eollections (#1055,
Sandro Santilli)
  - Fix GEOSProjectNormalized return -1 on exception (#1058, Joris Van den 
Bossche)
  - Fix memory management quirk in CAPI (#1050, Paul Ramsey)
  - Allow build on Apple ARM64 (Taras Zakharko)
  - Fix crash in GEOSPreparedIntersects and GEOSPreparedContains for
POINT EMPTY input (Even Rouault)

Also note that the 3.9 series is compatible with 3.8 so if you have the 
opportunity to upgrade, you can take advantage of the many performance and 
reliability improvements in 3.9.
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[OSGeo-Discuss] GEOS 3.9.1 Released

[Paul Ramsey]

The latest GEOS release is a bug fix release, which is highly recommended, as 
it fixes a bug that effects correct results of a small subset of Intersection() 
calculations. [1]

http://download.osgeo.org/geos/geos-3.9.1.tar.bz2

- Bug fixes / improvements:
  - Windows memory management quirk in createPolygon CAPI (#1050, Paul Ramsey)
  - Allow build on Apple ARM64 (Taras Zakharko)
  - Fix buffer to use largest enclosed area for invalid rings (#732, Paul 
Ramsey)
  - Preserve ordering of lines in overlay results (Martin Davis)
  - Fix overlay handling of flat interior lines (JTS-685, Martin Davis)

[1] https://github.com/libgeos/geos/issues/408
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[OSGeo-Discuss] PostGIS 3.1.1 Released

[Paul Ramsey]

PostGIS 3.1.1 is a minor bugfix release, covering some critical issues in 3.1.0.

https://postgis.net/2021/01/28/postgis-3.1.1/

  - #4814, Crash passing collection with only empty components to ST_MakeValid
  - #4818, Make the VSICURL synthetic driver work as documented
  - #4825, Unstable results from ST_MakeValid
  - #4823, Avoid listing the same geometry in different collections


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[OSGeo-Discuss] PostGIS 3.1.0 Released

[Paul Ramsey]

The PostGIS Team is pleased to release the release [0] of PostGIS 3.1.0!

This version exposes the new features of GEOS 3.9 [1] as well as numerous core 
performance enhancements for spatial joins, large object access, text format 
output and more.

Performance [2] is a key feature of this release, with improvements to spatial 
joins, text outputs [3], large object reads [4], vector tile output [5], and a 
host of smaller tweaks.

The k-means clustering [6] code has been enhanced to support weighting and 
higher dimensional clusters.

Geometry generators to create hexagonal and square tilings [7] have been added, 
for simpler in-the-database summarization queries.

Finally, PostGIS exposes the latest enhancements [8] in the GEOS geometry 
library 3.9 version. The new overlay engine (aka “OverlayNG” [9]) provides more 
robust [10] handling of difficult input geometries, using a set of new noding 
strategies [11] to process geometry. For the end user, this should mean no more 
“topology exceptions” when using the union, difference, intersection or 
symmetric difference functions. PostGIS also exposes the new fixed precision 
overlay capability via an additional grid-size parameter on ST_Intersection 
[12] and the other overlay functions.

Details of this release can be found in the NEWS file:

  https://git.osgeo.org/gitea/postgis/postgis/src/tag/3.1.0/NEWS

To everyone who helped out in testing and developing this release, we extent 
our wholehearted thanks!

Yours,
The PostGIS Team



[0] https://postgis.net/2020/12/18/postgis-3.1.0/
[1] https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/geos-devel/2020-December/010003.html
[2] http://blog.cleverelephant.ca/2020/12/waiting-postgis-31-1.html
[3] https://rmr.ninja/2020-12-06-waiting-for-postgis-3-1-output/
[4] https://rmr.ninja/2020-12-14-waiting-for-postgis-3-1-large_geometries/
[5] https://rmr.ninja/2020-11-19-waiting-for-postgis-3-1-mvt/
[6] https://postgis.net/docs/ST_ClusterKMeans.html
[7] http://blog.cleverelephant.ca/2020/12/waiting-postgis-31-2.html
[8] http://blog.cleverelephant.ca/2020/12/waiting-postgis-31-3.html
[9] 
https://lin-ear-th-inking.blogspot.com/2020/10/overlayng-lands-in-jts-master.html
[10] 
https://lin-ear-th-inking.blogspot.com/2020/06/jts-overlayng-tolerant-topology.html
[11] 
https://lin-ear-th-inking.blogspot.com/2020/06/jts-overlayng-noding-strategies.html
[12] http://postgis.net/docs/manual-dev/ST_Intersection.html


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[OSGeo-Discuss] GEOS 3.9.0 Released

[Paul Ramsey]

The GEOS community is pleased to announce the 3.9 release of the GEOS
computational geometry library. 

http://download.osgeo.org/geos/geos-3.9.0.tar.bz2

The headline feature of 3.9 is the new overlay engine, which is also new 
to JTS. Intersection, union, difference and symdifference all use this
new engine, which provides more robust results than the old engine. 
This should dramatically reduce and hopefully eliminate topology exceptions
when used with valid inputs.

We have continued to work on performance at the C++ implementation
level, and in general hope to demonstrate faster operation for most 
uses.

- New things:
  - OverlayNG engine from JTS, now the default (Martin Davis, Paul Ramsey)
  - MaximumInscribedCircle and LargestEmptyCircle (JTS-530, Paul Ramsey)
  - CAPI: Fixed precision overlay operations (Sandro Santilli)
  - CAPI: GEOSPreparedNearestPoints (#1007, Sandro Santilli)
  - CAPI: GEOSPreparedDistance (#1066, Sandro Santilli)
  - CAPI: GEOSGeom_setPrecision uses OverlayNG (Paul Ramsey)
  - SimpleSTRTree spatial index implementation (Paul Ramsey)
  - Add support for pkg-config for GEOS C API (#1073, Mike Taves)

- Improvements:
  - Stack allocate segments in OverlapUnion (Paul Ramsey)
  - Improve performance of GEOSisValid (Dan Baston)
  - Update geos-config tool for consistency
and escape paths (https://git.osgeo.org/gitea/geos/geos/pulls/99)
changes mostly affect CMake MSVC builds (#1015, Mike Taves)
  - Testing on Rasberry Pi 32-bit (berrie) (#1017, Bruce Rindahl, Regina Obe)
  - Replace ttmath with JTS DD double-double implementation (Paul Ramsey)
  - Fix bug in DistanceOp for geometries with empty components (#1026, Paul 
Ramsey)
  - Remove undefined behaviour in CAPI (#1021, Greg Troxel)
  - Fix buffering issue (#1022, JTS-525, Paul Ramsey)
  - MinimumBoundingCircle.getMaximumDiameter fix (JTS-533, Paul Ramsey)

- Changes:
  - Drop SWIG bindings, including for Ruby and Python (#1076, Mike Taves)


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[OSGeo-Discuss] FOSS4G 2020 Early Paper Deadline is Feb 4!

[Paul Ramsey]

FOSS4G 2020 will be in Calgary, Canada this year, from August 24-29. 
It seems so far away, and yet, the first submission deadline is almost here…

  https://2020.foss4g.org/early-acceptance/

If you submit your talk to the Call for Papers before February 4,  
you will be eligible for Early Acceptance!

  https://2020.foss4g.org/speakers/

Why submit early? We hope early acceptance will help speakers begin 
planning their conference experience earlier, with the certainty 
that you'll be an accepted speaker. Early acceptance also helps 
us build out the program and communicate the value of FOSS4G 
to new attendees.

Help yourself, help us, submit your talk early!
Thanks for your help, 
We're looking forward to seeing you all in August,
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Sol Katz Award - Call for Nominations

[Paul Ramsey]

I'd like to nominate Vladimir Agafonkin, who

https://github.com/mourner

- birthed the most popular open source Javascript interface for mapping,
which has been a gateway drug for javascript and web UI folks around the
internet
- continues to add important javascript geospatial pieces to the open
source world, like the rbush, the simpleheat, and many other small and
useful utilities that people assemble into their solutions in the open
source tradition
- has become a spokes-person for doing lightweight spatial and simple web
development patterns as a means to solving spatial access problems
- killed the chorus in "we're up all night to get mappy" in Nottingham

A community member already with a huge record of contribution and seemingly
no end in sight!

P.


On Thu, Jul 21, 2016 at 4:05 PM, Venkatesh Raghavan <
ragha...@media.osaka-cu.ac.jp> wrote:

> Dear All,
>
> The Open Source Geospatial Foundation would like to open nominations
> for the 2016 Sol Katz Award for Geospatial Free and Open Source
> Software.
>
> The Sol Katz Award for Geospatial Free and Open Source Software
> (GFOSS) will be given to individuals who have demonstrated leadership
> in the GFOSS community. Recipients of the award will have contributed
> significantly through their activities to advance open source ideals
> in the geospatial realm.
>
> Sol Katz was an early pioneer of GFOSS and left behind a large body of
> work in the form of applications, format specifications, and utilities
> while at the U.S. Bureau of Land Management. This early GFOSS archive
> provided both source code and applications freely available to the
> community. Sol was also a frequent contributor to many geospatial list
> servers, providing much guidance to the geospatial community at large.
>
> Sol unfortunately passed away in 1999 from Non-Hodgkin's Lymphoma, but
> his legacy lives on in the open source world. Those interested in
> making a donation to the American Cancer Society, as per Sol's
> family's request, can do so at https://donate.cancer.org/index.
>
> Nominations for the Sol Katz Award should be sent to
> solkatzaw...@osgeo.org with a description of the reasons for this
> nomination. Nominations will be accepted until 23:59 UTC on August
> 4th
> http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?month=8&day=4&year=2016&hour=23&min=59&sec=59
> .
>
> A recipient will be decided from the nomination list by the OSGeo
> selection committee.
>
> The winner of the Sol Katz Award for Geospatial Free and Open Source
> Software will be announced at the FOSS4G-Bonn event in August. The
> hope is that the award will both acknowledge the work of community
> members, and pay tribute to one of its founders, for years to come.
>
> It should be noted that past awardees and selection committee members
> are not eligible.
>
> More info at the Sol Katz Award wiki page
> http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Sol_Katz_Award
>
> Past Awardees:
>
>- 2015: Maria Brovelli
>- 2014: Gary Sherman
>- 2013: Arnulf Christl
>- 2012: Venkatesh Raghavan
>- 2011: Martin Davis
>- 2010: Helena Mitasova
>- 2009: Daniel Morissette
>- 2008: Paul Ramsey
>- 2007: Steve Lime
>- 2006: Markus Neteler
>- 2005: Frank Warmerdam
>
> Selection Committee 2016
>
>- Venkatesh Raghavan (chair)
>- Frank Warmerdam
>- Markus Neteler
>- Steve Lime
>- Paul Ramsey
>- Sophia Parafina
>- Daniel Morissette
>- Helena Mitasova
>- Martin Davis
>- Arnulf Christl
>- Gary Sherman
>- Maria Brovelli
>
> Best
>
> Venka
>
>
>
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Sol Katz Award - Call for Nominations

[Paul Ramsey]

I'd like to nominate Sean Gillies, who

https://github.com/sgillies

- has brought spatial-with-pythonic-principles to the masses of python
users via the popular shapely and rasterio libraries
- had a hand in the birthing and nurturing of the geojson format, including
its recent entry into the IETF
- was an early articulator of rest principles for geospatial and an
important contributor to thinking in that area
- continues to chug away at bringing more spatial smarts into the world of
pythonistas

And if that's not enough, support his nomination just for the lulz.

P.


On Thu, Jul 21, 2016 at 4:05 PM, Venkatesh Raghavan <
ragha...@media.osaka-cu.ac.jp> wrote:

> Dear All,
>
> The Open Source Geospatial Foundation would like to open nominations
> for the 2016 Sol Katz Award for Geospatial Free and Open Source
> Software.
>
> The Sol Katz Award for Geospatial Free and Open Source Software
> (GFOSS) will be given to individuals who have demonstrated leadership
> in the GFOSS community. Recipients of the award will have contributed
> significantly through their activities to advance open source ideals
> in the geospatial realm.
>
> Sol Katz was an early pioneer of GFOSS and left behind a large body of
> work in the form of applications, format specifications, and utilities
> while at the U.S. Bureau of Land Management. This early GFOSS archive
> provided both source code and applications freely available to the
> community. Sol was also a frequent contributor to many geospatial list
> servers, providing much guidance to the geospatial community at large.
>
> Sol unfortunately passed away in 1999 from Non-Hodgkin's Lymphoma, but
> his legacy lives on in the open source world. Those interested in
> making a donation to the American Cancer Society, as per Sol's
> family's request, can do so at https://donate.cancer.org/index.
>
> Nominations for the Sol Katz Award should be sent to
> solkatzaw...@osgeo.org with a description of the reasons for this
> nomination. Nominations will be accepted until 23:59 UTC on August
> 4th
> http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?month=8&day=4&year=2016&hour=23&min=59&sec=59
> .
>
> A recipient will be decided from the nomination list by the OSGeo
> selection committee.
>
> The winner of the Sol Katz Award for Geospatial Free and Open Source
> Software will be announced at the FOSS4G-Bonn event in August. The
> hope is that the award will both acknowledge the work of community
> members, and pay tribute to one of its founders, for years to come.
>
> It should be noted that past awardees and selection committee members
> are not eligible.
>
> More info at the Sol Katz Award wiki page
> http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Sol_Katz_Award
>
> Past Awardees:
>
>- 2015: Maria Brovelli
>- 2014: Gary Sherman
>- 2013: Arnulf Christl
>- 2012: Venkatesh Raghavan
>- 2011: Martin Davis
>- 2010: Helena Mitasova
>- 2009: Daniel Morissette
>- 2008: Paul Ramsey
>    - 2007: Steve Lime
>- 2006: Markus Neteler
>- 2005: Frank Warmerdam
>
> Selection Committee 2016
>
>- Venkatesh Raghavan (chair)
>- Frank Warmerdam
>- Markus Neteler
>- Steve Lime
>- Paul Ramsey
>- Sophia Parafina
>- Daniel Morissette
>- Helena Mitasova
>- Martin Davis
>- Arnulf Christl
>- Gary Sherman
>- Maria Brovelli
>
> Best
>
> Venka
>
>
>
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[OSGeo-Discuss] PostGIS 2.2.2 Released

[Paul Ramsey]

http://postgis.net/2016/03/22/postgis-2.2.2/

With some fixes for correctness in some features, a handful of
crashing cases, and with some important updates for upgrade cases,
from 2.1 and to 2.3, as well as for users with raster data restore
issues (read the linked docs for more information on those!)

  - #3463, Fix crash on face-collapsing edge change
  - #3422, Improve ST_Split robustness on standard precision double
   systems (arm64, ppc64el, s390c, powerpc, ...)
  - #3427, Update spatial_ref_sys to EPSG version 8.8
  - #3433, ST_ClusterIntersecting incorrect for MultiPoints
  - #3435, ST_AsX3D fix rendering of concave geometries
  - #3436, memory handling mistake in ptarray_clone_deep
  - #3437, ST_Intersects incorrect for MultiPoints
  - #3461, ST_GeomFromKML crashes Postgres when there are
   innerBoundaryIs and no outerBoundaryIs
  - #3429, upgrading to 2.3 or from 2.1 can cause loop/hang on some
   platforms
  - #3460, ST_ClusterWithin 'Tolerance not defined' error after upgrade
  - #3490, Raster data restore issues, materialized views
Scripts postgis_proc_set_search_path.sql, rtpostgis_proc_set_search_path.sql
refere to 
http://postgis.net/docs/manual-2.2/RT_FAQ.html#faq_raster_data_not_restore
  - #3426, failing POINT EMPTY tests on fun architectures
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] how did the paris code sprint go

[Paul Ramsey]

Here's mine

http://blog.cleverelephant.ca/2016/03/paris-code-sprint-postgis-recap.html

On Sun, Mar 6, 2016 at 11:59 AM, Jody Garnett  wrote:
> Taking this out to a seperate email thread - several projects had a plan
> going in, how did it go?
>
> PostGIS Agenda
> SFCGAL Agenda
> OTB Agenda
> GDAL Agenda
> GRASS GIS Agenda
> MapServer Agenda
> Point Cloud Agenda
> iTowns Agenda
>
> Oliver has gathered blog posts and feedback from participants on the wiki.
> --
> Jody Garnett
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] FOSS4GNA - Someone is watching you :-o

[Paul Ramsey]

Agree w/ Daniel in all ways. We want our events to succeed, no? So we
use marketing techniques to do so. Emails and so on. And we track who
opens them so we can get better at marketing. Like any other business
trying to succeed. Mail chimp is currently convenient, in the past
other technologies were convenient (I spammed people in 2007 using a
custom perl script, because I am a God Among Men), in the future
different technologies will be convenient. But they are all going
towards making a good event.

Naturally the first targets of marketing the event will be people who
have attended past events under the same/similar umbrella. I provided
the 2007 attendance list to foss4g events for a number of years until
it had grown entirely stale. I felt good about it. I revelled in the
goodness of it.

I have spammed. I will spam again, in the service of a good cause.
That is my weakness. That is my strength.

P.



On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 7:20 AM, Daniel Morissette
 wrote:
> On 2015-12-16 10:00 AM, Venkatesh Raghavan wrote:
>>
>> On 2015/12/16 18:37, Pat Tressel wrote:
>>>
>>> MailChimp is a very popular product. If you have a provable accusation
>>> against them -- that they were acting **independently of the account
>>> administrator** to alter lists, then that would be significant. As Rob
>>> has stated, MailChimp did not do something by itself. The list was
>>> aggregated from previous lists and events in which people participated.
>>
>>
>> I have also received a similar unsolicited mail. I would like to know
>> who has authorized
>> the aggregation and usage of email address from "previous lists and
>> events in which
>> people participated". I think every event has a privacy policy and
>> e-mail address provided
>> are only to be used for communicating about the specific event and not
>> for aggregating for
>> future use.
>>
>
>
> For the record, the use of such mailing services for FOSS4G promotion is not
> new. Even FOSS4G 2015 (Seoul) used MailChimp in a very similar way, I still
> have some of their mails in my archives, and I'm sure other past events did
> as well but I didn't bother digging any further.
>
> How can you realistically expect to do outreach to new people if you only
> announce your event on osgeo-discuss?
>
> This anti-anything-locationtech-does drama is becoming boring, please let's
> get over it.
>
> --
> Daniel Morissette
> http://www.mapgears.com/
> T: +1 418-696-5056 #201
>
> http://evouala.com/ - Location Intelligence Made Easy
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Renaming FOSS4G

[Paul Ramsey]

On Tue, Oct 6, 2015 at 8:12 AM, Barry Rowlingson
 wrote:
> Okay, this is probably sticking a match under a pile of dry wood but
> here goes...
>
> Can we rename The FOSS4G Conference to The OSGeo Conference?

Get off my lawn.

https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/conference_dev/2006-September/30.html

So weary,
P.
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] [Board] [Ica-osgeo-labs] The LAS format, the ASPRS, and the “LAZ clone” by ESRI

[Paul Ramsey]

Carl,

No, it doesn't really clarify it. I think what people are wondering is
"does OGC have a default mission and position that closed formats are
bad for the industry and would it publicly admonish a member who took
actions that ran counter to that position".  I assume that, as a
"member driven organization" whose membership includes the offender,
the OGC will not be standing up and publicly saying "this company is
contravening the spirit of our organization and mission, that it is
supposedly supportive of".

Am I incorrect?

WRT to OSGeo, I think that black letter cases like this come along
infrequently enough that it would not be at all inappropriate for
OSGeo to publicly state what is wrong with the direction being taken
in the world of LAS formats. The only trouble is, it's exactly what
everyone expects we would do, and therefore will be greeted with a
collective yawn. But it is the right thing, so we should still do it.

ATB,

P.




On Sun, Mar 1, 2015 at 8:23 AM, Carl Reed  wrote:
> All -
>
> The OGC is not currently involved in activities related to defining or
> maintaining LIDAR specific modeling and related encoding standards. Any work
> the OGC has been doing WRT LIDAR is within the context of processing,
> visualization, and analytics. Obviously, existing OGC standards such as WCS
> and GMLJP2 can be used to encode and share small, processed LIDAR data sets.
> Feel free to check OGC email archives, project pages, and so forth for
> documentation on any ongoing discussions in the OGC related to LIDAR.
>
> http://www.opengeospatial.org/pub/www/ows9/innovations.html : The thread
> participants looked at NITF, LIDAR, and DAP/OPeNDAP, and investigated their
> re-implementation in an OWS environment with a focus on the Web.
>
> or
>
> http://koenigstuhl.geog.uni-heidelberg.de/publications/bonn/conference/LanigGeoinformatik09.pdf
>
> for examples.
>
> Hope this clarifies the current OGC position.
>
> Regards
>
> Carl
>
>
> -Original Message- From: Suchith Anand
> Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2015 4:20 AM
> To: Cameron Shorter ; P Kishor ; Suchith Anand
> Cc: discuss@lists.osgeo.org ; Hogan, Patrick(ARC-PX) ; bo...@lists.osgeo.org
> ; ica-osgeo-l...@lists.osgeo.org
> Subject: Re: [Board] [OSGeo-Discuss] [Ica-osgeo-labs] The LAS format, the
> ASPRS, and the “LAZ clone” by ESRI
>
>
> Hi Cameron,
>
> Thank you for this excellent suggestion. I remember this previous
> Geoservices REST API issues and discussions.
>
> Patrick - Could you please start a wiki page and input as much information
> as you know on this (ideally in the same structure as the Geoservices REST
> API wiki ). Once it is ready, please email the community and OSGeo Board and
> we all can look into this.
>
> Anyone from OGC willing to help with this?
>
> I think this should be open letter from the OSGeo Board to the whole Geo
> community. I really hope this proprietary vendor (ESRI) will be decent
> enough to not keep repeating these inappropriate actions in the future.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Suchith
>
> 
> From: Cameron Shorter [cameron.shor...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2015 10:47 AM
> To: P Kishor; Suchith Anand
> Cc: discuss@lists.osgeo.org; Hogan, Patrick (ARC-PX); bo...@lists.osgeo.org;
> ica-osgeo-l...@lists.osgeo.org
> Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] [Ica-osgeo-labs] The LAS format, the ASPRS, and
> the “LAZ clone” by ESRI
>
> Patrick, others,
> OSGeo and related OGC communities have been successful previously in
> stopping ESRI's inappropriate creation of OGC standards. See here:
> http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Geoservices_REST_API
>
> I'd suggest that if we as OSGeo wish to be effective at blocking a vendor
> lock-in tactic, as seems to be the case, then we should consider developing
> a similar wiki page for the LAS format debate.
>
> 0. Write an open letter (who to? OGC?)
> 1. Describe the issue. (Is there someone who knows the issues well enough to
> describe them?)
> 2. Describe technically why one format is or is not better than the other,
> on both a technical and commercial point of view.
> 3. Is the Open LIDAR format an OGC standard?
> 4. If needed, collect signatures.
> 5. If needed, ask OSGeo Board to present the open letter
>
> On 28/02/2015 11:18 am, P Kishor wrote:
> Thanks Patrick for surfacing this. Yes, this should be opened up for
> scrutiny by the entire community and we should all weigh in.
>
> On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 4:13 PM, Suchith Anand
> mailto:suchith.an...@nottingham.ac.uk>>
> wrote:
> Hi Patrick,
>
> Thanks for bringing this to our attention. I believe the OSGeo Board need to
> look into this and prepare a position paper with inputs from the community
> as this has wider implications. This also need to be discussed with like
> minded organisations. We all can provide the needed support for this.
>
> Jeff and OSGeo Board - please add this to the next month Board meeting's
> agenda items. Thanks.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Suchith
>
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[OSGeo-Discuss] Call for Interest: PostGIS day in DC

[Paul Ramsey]

Hey all,
I'm thinking about organizing a PostGIS day (Nov 20) in Washington DC,
and I'm looking for folks who would be willing to present about (a)
their use of PostGIS or (b) the amazing insane magic they do with
PostGIS. We'd host in the spacious Boundless office, likely, and
probably do an afternoon/evening time frame.
Could you drop me a line if you'd be interested in presenting? (attending?)
Thanks!
P
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[OSGeo-Discuss] FOSS4G Organizing

[Paul Ramsey]

I have two contradictory positions wrt LocationTech and event organizing, and 
I’ll start with this one, since it’s easier: as long as the organizations are 
separate, I think that OSGeo should maintain its own brand and use a 
professional organizer that is 100% dedicated to OSGeo without any conflicts of 
interest, perceived or otherwise.

There are a number of places to start in finding such a corporate partner for 
event planning. An obvious thing to do would be to look at other successful 
international technology events in our space and who organizes them.

 
http://www.ieee.org/conferences_events/conferences/organizers/conference_organizer_contacts.html
 https://us.pycon.org/2014/about/staff/
 http://events.linuxfoundation.org/#event-services

If nothing else, folks at those organizations could refer us to other companies 
we may not have heard to so we could run a real competition for our business.

Since getting involved in a commercial relationship like this is a big, 
existential decision for the organization, I think it falls to the board to 
decide

(a) if moving to a single professional event organizer for all major foss4g 
events (international, na, eu) is warranted
(b) if so, assigning a small team to speak with the alternatives, and bring a 
concrete decision in the form of a recommended company and contract terms to 
the board

It is important to get a decision on (a) as quickly as possible, as the venue 
decision for 2016 will have to be made and which organizing principle it falls 
under is important to establish sooner than later.

P.

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Proposed process for selecting OSGeo charter members

[Paul Ramsey]

AAG has a sliding income scale, no reason something like that, or a
"hamburger index" multiplier, can't be used to fix that up.

http://www.economist.com/content/big-mac-index

P.

On Mon, Jun 23, 2014 at 7:25 AM, Bart van den Eijnden  wrote:
> Good food for thought Howard, can’t say I disagree with anything you say here.
>
> The only thing we need to consider is that for some countries 50 or 70 USD 
> can still be a lot of money.
>
> Best regards,
> Bart
>
> On 23 Jun 2014, at 16:12, Howard Butler  wrote:
>
>>
>> On Jun 20, 2014, at 7:38 AM, Cameron Shorter  
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks Paul, Dimitris and Peter for your thoughts.
>>>
>>> Comments inline.
>>>
>>> On 20/06/2014 4:31 am, Paul Ramsey wrote:
>>>> http://www.aag.org/cs/membership/individual_membership
>>>> http://www.aag.org/cs/membership/individual_membership/dues
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Both simpler, and better for the bottom line of OSGeo, if you want to
>>>> be a member, sign up as a member, collect your t-shirt, see you @
>>>> foss4g.
>>>>
>>> Yes Paul, "pay for membership" is simple, but I'd argue that the value of 
>>> OSGeo and OSGeo communities is the volunteer time we contribute, and "pay 
>>> membership" wouldn't capture that.
>>
>> This property is the nature of a professional organization, which in my 
>> opinion, OSGeo clearly is. There are a number of strong reasons why small 
>> annual fees for membership are very attractive. The first is there's no 
>> struggling with members who've dropped off, haven't voted, are no longer 
>> participating. Second, anyone who wants to associate themselves can simply 
>> do so by paying dues. Finally, a consistent, if small, operating revenue.
>>
>> The voting process has been an ad-hoc affair since the beginnings of the 
>> organization. Every year it the rules are tweaked. Every year members who've 
>> dropped off need to be nagged. Every year we end up just taking everyone 
>> who's nominated anyway. It's a lot of overhead and volunteer cost for very 
>> little gain.
>>
>> It is certain there are people who wish to be professionally associated with 
>> OSGeo who are unable to become members because they haven't generated enough 
>> public profile to be nominated. You can't nominate yourself. It's a chicken 
>> and egg problem that simply dissolves with paid-but-small membership dues.
>>
>> OSGeo's main revenue stream is the FOSS4G conference. It is an event run on 
>> the backs of local chapter volunteers. Please correct me otherwise, but I do 
>> not think any local chapter who has hosted FOSS4G has ever put in a proposal 
>> to host it again. This well may eventually run dry. Or, it may run dry for a 
>> year or two. 80-100k/year (~$50-70/year * 1500 persons) of membership dues 
>> is plenty to keep the lights on through droughts and still allow the 
>> organization to move forward.
>>
>> At the inception of the organization, a driving factor toward our current 
>> membership structure is because OSGeo is a volunteer organization, it 
>> shouldn't require members to pay money. I think this is misguided. Every 
>> other professional organization of which I'm a member requires membership 
>> dues. As an IRS classification, a professional organization has a clear path 
>> forward.
>>
>> I am a professional open source Geo/GIS software developer. I want to belong 
>> to a professional organization that represents me. I would be happy to pay 
>> some nominal membership dues that a) signify my membership, b) provide 
>> financial buffer for the organization to achieve its mission, and 3) clearly 
>> signal what the rules are to become a member.
>>
>> My $0.02.
>>
>> Howard
>>
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Proposed process for selecting OSGeo charter members

[Paul Ramsey]

http://www.aag.org/cs/membership/individual_membership
http://www.aag.org/cs/membership/individual_membership/dues

Both simpler, and better for the bottom line of OSGeo, if you want to
be a member, sign up as a member, collect your t-shirt, see you @
foss4g.

P.

On Thu, Jun 19, 2014 at 10:28 AM, Dimitris Kotzinos  wrote:
> Dear all,
>
> some thoughts on the proposed changes on the Charter Member election
> process.
> I will divide my comments into two parts, first some issues about the
> process itself and then some comments on the proposed changes.
>
> (A) the process per se:
> 1/ I think that whatever change in the election process should be validated
> by the Charter Members themselves, so I fully agree with Arnulf that we need
> to vote on that and not just the Board. And of course this contains no
> offense for the Board; it is just that I think that it is fair that the body
> who is affected by the changes to take the decisions.
> Moreover the charter members are the ones who elect the Board so it seems
> quite awkward to me that the smaller governing body will take such decision.
> 2/ I think that whatever decision taken should be enforced in next year's
> elections; members need some time to evaluate that. So it is good to
> conclude this process now but enforce it from next year.
>
> (B) the proposed changes:
> Before discussing the proposed changes I think that we should understand
> where the current system has failed. Do we have cases where recognized
> community leaders failed to be elected? If so please bring them forward. I
> doubt so though since if I recall correctly the last two years all charter
> member nominations were accepted without voting! Moreover the notion of a
> "recognized community leader" that cannot be elected as a charter member is
> a contradiction by itself. So why change?
> I am not against the idea of having some people becoming OSGEO Charter
> Members ex officio but for one I do not like the idea of having members of
> different categories and secondly I need to have a look at the data: how
> many of the committee chairs, PSC members, official Chapter chairs are not
> already OSGEO Charter members (and they wanted to be and failed)? Why are
> they not nominated to become ones and to be voted?
> And I don't see how the problem described here:
> "In previous years the Charter Member selection process has been a little
> contentious. We typically receive numerous nominations from high caliber
> members of our community, and insufficient positions to accept them all.
> This typically results in unnecessary disappointment and dissent."
> will be resolved: again we will have some people not becoming Charter
> Members if the seats are not enough. So some of us will still be
> disappointed, etc. So if the numbers are the same the only difference I see
> is that now we choose beforehand whom to disappoint and people working in
> the community but in not "official" positions will have less chances to be
> elected.
> If we want to open up the numbers, this is OK, more seats are offered every
> year anyway. But what else?
> And of course the first come first served approach if the recognized
> community leaders are more than the seats is a bit odd: to lighten up the
> discussion I cannot imagine people with the finger on the mouse waiting for
> the process to open in order to submit there nominations.
> Finally, for the voting process I completely disagree with the ability of a
> member to vote multiple times for the same person. This removes from the
> process the requirement of someone to be widely recognized within the
> community and potentially allows "a couple of friends" to elect whoever they
> want.
>
> I think that the discussion is interesting and thanks to the board and
> Arnulf :) for initiating it!
> I think that other solutions could also be considered if we feel that we
> need to differentiate on how charter members get elected, e.g. agree on a
> bonus percentage that a "community leader" gets when he goes through the
> standard process, so he still has to be voted by many...
>
> I apologize for the length of the e-mail and thanks for listening,
>
> Best regards,
>
> Dimitris Kotzinos
>
>
>
>
>>
>> Within 2 weeks we intend to start our annual process for selecting new
>> OSGeo charter members.
>>
>> In previous years the Charter Member selection process has been a little
>> contentious. We typically receive numerous nominations from high caliber
>> members of our community, and insufficient positions to accept them all.
>> This typically results in unnecessary disappointment and dissent.
>>
>> In response, the OSGeo board has agreed to trial tweaking the voting
>> process. The aim is to automatically accept recognised OSGeo community
>> leaders, while continuing with our existing process which attracts the
>> many valuable community members who contribute in other ways. Community
>> comments are encouraged, and will be considered over the next week.
>>
>> *Design

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Test polygons from "About Invalid, Valid and Clean Polygons"

[Paul Ramsey]

What’s the publication date on this? The PostGIS results are wrong, at least in 
that they only show the input validation (PostGIS will accept almost any WKT 
input, with the exception of unclosed rings) and not ST_IsValid validation.

P.

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> Hi,
> 
> In the paper "About Invalid, Valid and Clean Polygons" [1], on page 11,
> there is a collection of test polygons used by the authors.
> 
> Does anyone happen to know where can I find a complete dataset or
> a form of data definition (WKT, GML, etc.)  with those test polygons?
> 
> [1] 
> http://www.springer.com/cda/content/document/cda_downloaddocument/9783540226109-c1.pdf
> 
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] FOSS4G 2013 Nottingham Update

[Paul Ramsey]

+10, the workshops selection is always contentious, and there are
always people disappointed, since the number of slots is so limited.
It's a difficult part of the organizing process to make and stand by
those decisions. I'm glad Barry is working on his optimization
algorithm, so we can finally put this annual problem permanently to
bed :)

P.

On Fri, May 10, 2013 at 8:31 AM, Peter Batty  wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> As a previous FOSS4G chair I would just appeal to everyone to go easy on the
> organizing team. I was not involved in the selection process this time but I
> do know there was a high number of workshops that were submitted, so
> unfortunately half the submitters are going to be disappointed and think
> that the committee made the wrong the choice.
>
> Barry also stated that he wasn't involved in workshop selection, so you
> really shouldn't all be reading lots into his side comment that the
> workshops present good value - my interpretation is that was just a general
> comment that was Barry's opinion and nothing to do with selection criteria.
>
> Also the reality is that there are so many submissions that you can't give
> specific reasons to everyone who was rejected why they didn't make it - this
> would hugely increase the already large amount of time that all these
> volunteers are putting into creating a FOSS4G event, and make a difficult
> process even more difficult.
>
> Just a few thoughts as a previous organizer :)
>
> Cheers,
> Peter.
>
>
>
> On Fri, May 10, 2013 at 2:31 AM, Jeroen Ticheler
>  wrote:
>>
>> I concur with Markus.
>> I was also surprised to see none of our GeoNetwork related workshops
>> represented although they were always well received at previous conferences.
>> It would have been nice if we'd had feedback on the reasoning behind that.
>> Considering about half the national INSPIRE geospatial catalogs in Europe
>> run on the product I consider it a relevant OSGeo product. Reading the
>> thread, I note we should also put up a page with high GeoNetwork workshop
>> fees instead of always providing them for free at FOSS4G conferences. I may
>> actually start to consider that ;-)
>> Jeroen
>>
>> On 10 mei 2013, at 10:12, Markus Neteler  wrote:
>>
>> > On 5/10/13, Barry Rowlingson  wrote:
>> >> On Fri, May 10, 2013 at 7:27 AM, andrea antonello
>> >>  wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> Also I would have another wish. Is there a way to understand how the
>> >>> workshops were chosen.
>> >>> I see important projects missing, whereas several have kind of
>> >>> "double" or even "triple" workshops.
>> >
>> > Yes, surprising also for me.
>> >
>> >>> Given the few available slots, I would have expected more
>> >>> differentiation.
>> >>>
>> >>> Would be really keen to understand the process, if there is a simple
>> >>> way to do so.
>> >>
>> >> The workshop selection process was handed to our workshop subcommittee
>> >> - I've asked them to respond to these issues here on the mailing list
>> >> and personally to you two if that's necessary.
>> >>
>> >> The balance looks quite good to me, where there is duplication it
>> >> seems to be different aspects of the same project - Postgis Intro and
>> >> Postgis 3d have different audiences, for example. Its possible that
>> >> other projects weren't represented in the proposals which would
>> >> explain their absence.
>> >
>> > While I submitted an advanced GRASS GIS 7 workshop, I didn't even
>> > receive a 'your proposal was not considered' notification.
>> > A bit sad for a cofounder of OSGeo and participant of the first ever
>> > FOSS4G Conf 2004 in Bangkok.
>> >
>> >> There are a few workshops from OpenGeo, but if
>> >> you go to their website and see how much they charge for commercial
>> >> training, you might see this as us giving people the opportunity to
>> >> get some great training cheaply from some great trainers.
>> >
>> > ... well, not a convincing argument.
>> >
>> >> Anyway, our Workshop Team will address these issues later.
>> >
>> > Better sooner :)
>> >
>> > Markus
>> > (FOSS4G trainer since 1996)
>> >
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] West Coast USA Conference

[Paul Ramsey]

Since FOSS4G will be in North America next year (assuming an
acceptable bid is received from the continent) there won't be a
FOSS4GNA next year.

P.

On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 10:00 PM, Kate Chapman  wrote:
> Hi Alex,
>
> Next year's location has not been determined yet for FOSS4G-NA. Also the
> main FOSS4G will likely be in North America next year as well.
>
> Best,
>
> -Kate
>
>
> On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 11:58 AM, Alex Mandel 
> wrote:
>>
>> On 05/07/2013 06:54 PM, Landon Blake wrote:
>>>
>>> I've been tossing around the idea of organizing an open source GIS
>>> conference on the USA West Coast. I'd thought it would be good to bounce
>>> that idea by this general discussion list.
>>>
>>> I think the organization of a conference could be spearheaded by the
>>> California Chapter under my lead. I know the PDX chapter is also on the
>>> West Coast and may be interested.
>>>
>>> If we couldn't swing a self-hosted event I think there is a good change I
>>> could get a day on the program of the California/Nevada land surveyors
>>> conference, which is usually in Reno every spring. This would greatly
>>> reduce the cost, and would have the added benefit of bringing in some
>>> extra
>>> revenue to the surveying conference. I have some connections with the
>>> California surveying organization that puts on the Reno conference and I
>>> serve on their GIS Committee. I would be able to explore this option with
>>> them.
>>>
>>> Please let me know if you would be interested in helping me organize a
>>> one
>>> or two day event on the West Coast. If there is enough support, I'll open
>>> a
>>> more detailed discussion on the California Chapter mailing list, and will
>>> try to see if there are enough volunteers to form a West Coast conference
>>> committee.
>>>
>>> My employer might be willing to help sponsor some of the costs for a
>>> smaller self-hosted event for 50 to 100 people.
>>>
>>> I don't want this to take the steam out of a national USA FOSS4G
>>> conference. But I think there is a good opportunity to capture the
>>> interest
>>> of local folks that won't attend a national conference, especially in the
>>> Silicon Valley. Perhaps we could coordinate with the USA FOSS4G folks to
>>> have an event in California every two or three years?
>>>
>>> Please share your thoughts.
>>>
>>> Landon
>>>
>>
>> I think you should try to organize a committee to bring Foss4g NA to the
>> west coast. Northern California, Oregon or Washington all have a decent
>> number of folks to help with that. Not sure if next years location has
>> already been selected yet or not.
>>
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[OSGeo-Discuss] 2014 FOSS4G Bid Timeline

[Paul Ramsey]

Important note: if you are planning on submitting a Letter-of-Intent
for FOSS4G 2014 hosting, you have only 5 days left.

http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/FOSS4G_2014_Bid_Process

We need to know useful things like the viability of your local
committee, your planned venue, and so on, to move to the bid stage.
Read the RFP, write your letter, take the plunge!

http://svn.osgeo.org/osgeo/foss4g/rfp/2014/osgeo-conference-2013-request-for-proposal.pdf

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[OSGeo-Discuss] FOSS4G 2014 RFP Process

[Paul Ramsey]

OSGeo is happy to announce the call for hosting the FOSS4G 2014 event. The 2014 
FOSS4G RFP is available now at:

http://svn.osgeo.org/osgeo/foss4g/rfp/2014/osgeo-conference-2013-request-for-proposal.pdf

And the RFP process is summarily described on the wiki:

http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/FOSS4G_2014_Bid_Process

Links to letters of intent, proposals, and supplementary information will be 
added to the wiki page as the process goes on.

Highlights:

2014 is a "North America year"
Like last year, using a two-stage bidding process, with letters-of-intent, 
followed by full proposals for selected bidders.
Letters of intent due May 10.
Please share this document far and wide!

Yours,

Paul Ramsey
FOSS4G RFP Coordinator, 2014




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[OSGeo-Discuss] PostGIS 2.0.2

[Paul Ramsey]

The PostGIS development team is happy to release the second patch
version of PostGIS 2, the 2.0.2 release. As befits a patch release,
the focus is on bugs and breakages, and there are a large number of
obscure things that are now better in this release.

http://download.osgeo.org/postgis/source/postgis-2.0.2.tar.gz


 * Bug Fixes *
  - #1287, Drop of "gist_geometry_ops" broke a few clients
   package of legacy_gist.sql for these cases
  - #1391, Errors during upgrade from 1.5
  - #1828, Poor selectivity estimate on ST_DWithin
  - #1838, error importing tiger/line data
  - #1869, ST_AsBinary is not unique -
   added to legacy_minor/legacy.sql scripts
  - #1885, Missing field from tabblock table in tiger2010 census_loader.sql
  - #1891, Use LDFLAGS environment when building liblwgeom
  - #1899, Enhance toTopoGeom error on unsupported input
  - #1900, Fix pgsql2shp for big-endian systems
  - #1932, Fix raster2pgsql for invalid syntax for setting index tablespace
  - #1936, ST_GeomFromGML on CurvePolygon causes server crash
  - #1955, ST_ModEdgeHeal and ST_NewEdgeHeal for doubly connected edges
  - #1957, ST_Distance to a one-point LineString returns NULL
  - #1976, Geography point-in-ring code overhauled for more reliability
  - #1978, wrong answer calculating length of closed circular arc (circle)
  - #1981, Remove unused but set variables as found with gcc 4.6+
  - #1987, Restore 1.5.x behaviour of ST_Simplify
  - #1989, Preprocess input geometry to just intersection with raster
   to be clipped
  - #1991, geocode really slow on PostgreSQL 9.2
  - #1996, support POINT EMPTY in GeoJSON output
  - #1998, Fix ST_{Mod,New}EdgeHeal joining edges sharing both endpoints
  - #2001, ST_CurveToLine has no effect if the geometry doesn't actually
   contain an arc
  - #2015, ST_IsEmpty('POLYGON(EMPTY)') returns False
  - #2019, ST_FlipCoordinates does not update bbox
  - #2025, Fix side location conflict at TopoGeo_AddLineString
  - #2062, improve performance of distance calculations
  - #2033, Fix adding a splitting point into a 2.5d topology
  - #2051, Fix excess of precision in ST_AsGeoJSON output
  - #2052, Fix buffer overflow in lwgeom_to_geojson
  - #2056, Fixed lack of SRID check of raster and geometry in ST_SetValue()
  - #2057, Fixed linking issue for raster2psql to libpq
  - #2060, Fix "dimension" check violation by GetTopoGeomElementArray
  - #2072, Removed outdated checks preventing ST_Intersects(raster) from
   working on out-db bands
  - #2077, Fixed incorrect answers from ST_Hillshade(raster)
  - #2092, Namespace issue with ST_GeomFromKML,ST_GeomFromGML for libxml 2.8+
  - #2099, Fix double free on exception in ST_OffsetCurve
  - #2100, ST_AsRaster() may not return raster with specified pixel type
  - #2108, Ensure ST_Line_Interpolate_Point always returns POINT
  - #2109, Ensure ST_Centroid always returns POINT
  - #2117, Ensure ST_PointOnSurface always returns POINT
  - #2129, Fix SRID in ST_Homogenize output with collection input
  - #2130, Fix memory error in MultiPolygon GeoJson parsing

  - Update URL of Maven jar


 * Enhancements *
  - #1581, ST_Clip(raster, ...) no longer imposes NODATA on a band if the
   corresponding band from the source raster did not have NODATA
  - #1928, Accept array properties in GML input multi-geom input
(Kashif Rasul and Shoaib Burq / SpacialDB)
  - #2082, Add indices on start_node and end_node of topology edge tables
  - #2087, Speedup topology.GetRingEdges using a recursive CTE
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] FOSS4G 2013 update

[Paul Ramsey]

Super, very happy to hear the update Jo! Looking forward to hearing
about all the sponsors signing up in the new year :)
P.

On Mon, Dec 3, 2012 at 3:15 AM, Jo Cook  wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> Just a quick update to let you know that all is well with FOSS4G 2013
> organisation. We're having planning meetings every 2 weeks at the moment,
> and all the minutes can be found on the wiki page
> http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/FOSS4G_2013
>
> The big news at the moment is that we have a sparkly new website just
> waiting to be unveiled- we're just mopping up broken links and styling
> problems with it at the moment but would hope to have that ready in a couple
> of weeks. Expect loads of other exciting news round about the same time!
>
> All the best
>
> Jo
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Code sprints at FOSS4G 2013

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On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 1:39 AM, Steven Feldman  wrote:

> When do you want to run the code sprints? Our preference would be to provide
> facilities for the code sprints on Sunday 22nd but if there was a strong
> preference to go for the Monday we could try to secure space for that (not
> guaranteed but we could try)

People generally agree that 1 day is not enough. They also agree that
after a week of conferencing, one day is plenty. Your call.

> If there is a choice between one large space with clusters for the different
> projects or a series of smaller rooms which would you prefer?

One big one, so people can cross pollinate.

> Apart from power, internet and coffee are there any other requirements?

Some moveable whiteboards or flip-charts for planning meetings.

P.

>
> Can we get your feedback on this in next few days as we will need to make
> some choices with the venue by early next week. Apologies for short notice.
> 
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] FOSS4G presentation review process

[Paul Ramsey]

I'm in favour too. It has potential, let's see how an anonymous
community process works in practice.

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On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 11:31 AM, Volker Mische  wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> On 10/01/2012 06:10 PM, Barry Rowlingson wrote:
>> In our bid for FOSS4G 2013 Nottingham, we didn't precisely say how we
>> intended to select presentations for the main track of the conference.
>> Some discussion amongst the committee has been going on, and we think
>> it necessary to informally poll the community to get a feel for what
>> method is preferred.
>>
>> Previous FOSS4Gs have not used anonymous reviews (note: the Academic
>> Track will be a double-blind review process, we are discussing the
>> main conference presentations here), and have used a blend of
>> committee reviews and community reviews. Note that even with a
>> numerical ranking system its normally still necessary to do a manual
>> step to get a balanced conference.
>>
>> The big change we could do would be to have anonymous community
>> reviews. Proposals would be rated based on title and abstract only.
>> The arguments for this include:
>>
>>  * selection is on quality of proposal rather than bigness of name
>>  * rating procedure can prevent up-votes from whoever has the most
>> followers on twitter
>>  * promotes inclusivity:
>> http://2012.jsconf.eu/2012/09/17/beating-the-odds-how-we-got-25-percent-women-speakers.html
>>
>> and against arguments include:
>>
>>  * some names are big draws, and it would be disappointing to not have
>> someone because their abstract wasn't that exciting.
>>  * previous FOSS4Gs have used non-anonymous reviewing and that worked
>> fine. Why change it?
>>  * it may be hard to distil an exciting talk into an abstract without
>> losing the excitement.
>>
>> So, as this would be quite a change for FOSS4G, what do you - the
>> OSGeo community at large - think? I do have a google poll nearly ready
>> on this, but lets have a bit of a debate here and maybe it won't even
>> be necessary.
>
> I think an anonymous selection process makes a lot of sense. I
> personally always hoped that people don't do a "please up-vote me"
> campaigns on blogs or Twitter, but it happened. It will still be
> possible as people could publish the titles of the abstract, but I hope
> this won't happen and everyone will play along nicely.
>
> One thing we have to keep in mind, that this conference is different
> from the JSConf.eu. The JSConf.eu is about the bleeding edge an what's
> hot in the fast changing JavaScript world. The audience are definitely
> non-beginners. At the FOSS4G the audience is way more wide-spread. It
> ranges from beginners to absolute pros. Hence there are also talks that
> are kind of the same every year. Things that come to my mind are my own
> talks, which are always about GeoCouch, or the "State of ..." talks.
> They have a place, but you'd know upfront the the "State of GeoServer"
> e.g. is done by one of the big names of GeoServer and respectively a
> talk mentioning GeoCouch is probably me. What I want to say is, you
> can't fully prevent that people up-vote well known names.
>
> Of course there still needs to be the review process by the programm
> committee that makes the final call, so that we e.g. don't have 5 talks
> from the same person.
>
> To conclude: I'm in favour of trying it and seeing how it works.
>
> Cheers,
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Board Nomination: Hirofumi Hayashi

[Paul Ramsey]

What super news! Hirofumi Hayashi would be a great representative for
Japan and open source geospatial in general, I heartily second this
nomination!

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On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 10:46 AM, Jeff McKenna
 wrote:
> Hello OSGeo community,
>
> I am very happy to nominate Hirofumi Hayashi[1] for the Board of
> Directors of OSGeo.
>
> Hayashi is a super-active member of the OSGeo-Japan chapter, tirelessly
> working on planning and promoting FOSS4G events in that region.  He is a
> member of the OSGeo-Japan Board, and anyone who has ever attended a
> FOSS4G-Japan event has been touched by his efforts, and of course his smile.
>
> At the project-level Hayashi is a member of the ZOO Project PSC (often
> works late at night to maintain its servers), has also committed several
> enhancements to the OSGeo4W installer, and contributed translation
> changes in several OSGeo projects.
>
> I believe Hayashi will be a great voice from the vibrant Japan chapter.
>
> Oh, I must not forget: Hayashi's daughter Natsuki was the now-famous
> hand model used in the FOSS4G-Japan 2008 mola-mola video! [2]
>
> [1] http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Hhayashi
> [2] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UpHilajQkGM
>
> -jeff
>
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Charter Member Nomination: Andrea Aime

[Paul Ramsey]

Andrea's not already a charter member? +10.
P.

On Sat, Jun 30, 2012 at 11:43 AM, Justin Deoliveira
 wrote:
> Just wanted to add my +1 to this nomination. Anyone who has worked with
> Andrea knows there is no question about his commitment to open source geo
> software. He will make a great charter member.
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 11:44 AM, Gabriel Roldan 
> wrote:
>>
>> I second Andrea's nomination too. Having worked closely with him on
>> the GeoTools and GeoServer projects for the last seven years or so,
>> and truly believe neither project would be what they are without
>> Andrea's continued commitment.
>>
>> Gabriel.
>> On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 2:39 PM, Jeff McKenna
>>  wrote:
>> > On 12-06-25 2:26 PM, Jody Garnett wrote:
>> >> I would like to nominate Andrea Aime for OSGeo charter membership.
>> >>
>> >
>> > I second Andrea's nomination.  I've had the pleasure to work closely
>> > with him through several FOSS4G Benchmarking exercises; he is a very
>> > hard worker and a big supporter of OSGeo.  And I'm proud to say that
>> > we're good friends even after going through all that :)
>> >
>> > -jeff
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Jeff McKenna
>> > MapServer Consulting and Training Services
>> > http://www.gatewaygeomatics.com/
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
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>>
>>
>> --
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>> OpenGeo - http://opengeo.org
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> --
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> OpenGeo - http://opengeo.org
> Enterprise support for open source geospatial.
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] [OSGeo-Conf] regional conferences

[Paul Ramsey]

On Mon, Jun 18, 2012 at 5:08 AM, Steven Feldman  wrote:
> If there are regional events in every continent except for the continent
> where the global event is being run we may risk diluting interest in the
> global event.
>
> We will have the global FOSS4G in Europe in 2013 (either UK or Finland will
> host) we would expect to see less delegates from outside of Europe if there
> are North American, Asian and other regional events.
>
> Perhaps a compromise would be to ensure that the timing of regional events
> is as close as possible to 6 months away from the global event?

That's always a risk, but the reality is that the vast majority of
FOSS4G attendees are from the local region, and only a small slice are
international. So we really are effectively serving a much larger
population with regional events. In some ways (watch this rhetorical
bend) dilution is actually a net positive, because it keeps the
same-old-same-old highly rated software talks from clogging up the
agenda leaving little space for quirky local topics.

But I digress.

I've been encouraging the regional organizers to try and keep as much
schedule space between their event and mid-September as possible. This
I think helps the international travellers make schedule time to
potentially attend two events in a year.  It does lead to some awkward
moments though, like FOSS4GNA this year coming just 6 months *after*
the last event in NA, the Denver conference. All in all though,
because we were serving a market (DC) that itself couldn't all get
even so far away as Denver, we ended up serving a wider group.

So I think on balance the regional thing is serving us very well. It
pains me to say it, but we might be better off de-emphasizing
FOSS4G-the-international-event and trying instead of space regional
events regularly around the calendar so it's possible for some
in-demand speakers to hit 2-3 regional events, while still allowing
more travel-constrained local delegates the option of having a regular
event.

So many options, but unfortunately there's no slam dunk way of knowing
what is "best".

P.
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[OSGeo-Discuss] FOSS4G 2013 RFP Result

[Paul Ramsey]

Conference Committee, Bidders,

Good morning (PDT). The results have been tabulated, and every member
of the committee has voted (yay).

Many thanks to both teams for bidding. Many of the members commented
on the difficulty in selecting a bid, given the quality and attention
to detail in both bids.

The voting results are

Nottingham 8
Helsinki 2

So, FOSS4G 2013 will be in Nottingham, UK.

To the Nottingham team:

- The sooner you can carve your dates into stone, the better for
promotion and planning
- Remember that you will have to submit a budget to the Board for
approval, and the "Official, Really for Reals Acceptance" of your bid
is contingent on the Board formally accepting your budget and bid.
Let's move that process forward briskly.

To the Helsinki team:

- You had a great bid and a wonderful venue and plan, I hope you'll
consider bringing your preparations and research to hosting an EU
Regional event for 2014.

Thanks again to everyone,

Paul,
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[OSGeo-Discuss] FOSS4G 2013 RFP Reminder

[Paul Ramsey]

Reminder to anyone thinking and working on a 2013 bid: the letter of
intent deadline is at the end of March.
Get all your RFP goodness and important dates here:

  http://www.osgeo.org/conference/rfp

Questions, etc, email to me. Thanks!

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[OSGeo-Discuss] FOSS4G North America is Almost Here: April 10-11

[Paul Ramsey]

FOSS4G North America is one month away! Due to venue restrictions (400
max!), we only have a limited number of registration spaces still
remaining, so sign up soon!

 * The full program is now available, online at http://foss4g-na.org/program/
 * Online registration is available, at http://foss4g-na.org/registration/
 * Rooms at nearby hotels are available too,
http://foss4g-na.org/hotel-block-annouced/

We are proud of our program, which includes talks from open source
developers, managers and visionaries. FOSS4G North America is a great
opportunity to learn about the statue of the art, and how people are
putting open source to use in their organizations.

We hope to see you in DC!

FOSS4G North America
Paul Ramsey (Chair), OpenGeo
Bonnie Bogle (Program Chair), MapBox
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[OSGeo-Discuss] FOSS4G North America Call for Presentations Closes TODAY!

[Paul Ramsey]

[Please forward this to any lists/contacts you think will be
interested in FOSS4GNA]

Hi, users and developers of geospatial open source!
If you are planning to speak at FOSS4G-NA, you must submit a
presentation abstract today. Please don't forget! We really want to
hear your stories, tell us about how open source has changed the way
you work.

http://foss4g-na.org/abstract-submission/

The conference program is being organized around three tracks:
 * open source technology best practices and tips;
 * deployment case studies; and
 * emerging ideas and trends in open source.

We have space for about 50 presentations and 20 Ignite sessions, so
get your submissions in!
For more information, please visit our site at http://foss4g-na.org/.

Space is limited to 300 attendees only, so you should sign up today to
ensure that you can be a part of this exciting event!

Related Links:
http://foss4g-na.org/registration/ FOSS4G-NA Registration
http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/North_America_Regional/ OSGeo North America Chapter
http://www.osgeo.org/ Open Source Geospatial Foundation
http://2012.foss4g.org FOSS4G 2012 - Beijing, China

Yours,

Paul Ramsey
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[OSGeo-Discuss] FOSS4G North America Call for Presentations Closes March 1

[Paul Ramsey]

FOSS4G-NA (April 10-12, in Washington DC) is shaping up to be very
successful: nearly half of our 400 registration slots are already
filled, and lots of sponsors have signed on. Now it's up to you to
bring the magic!

If you are planning to speak at FOSS4G-NA, you must submit a
presentation abstract by March 1. Please don't forget!

  http://foss4g-na.org/abstract-submission/

The conference program is being organized around three tracks:
 * open source technology best practices and tips;
 * deployment case studies; and
 * emerging ideas and trends in open source.

We have space for about 50 presentations and 20 Ignite sessions, so
get your submissions in!

For more information, please visit our site at http://foss4g-na.org/.

Space is limited to 300 attendees only, so you should sign up today to
ensure that you can be a part of this exciting event!

Related Links:
 * http://foss4g-na.org/registration/ FOSS4G-NA Registration
 * http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/North_America_Regional/ OSGeo North
America Chapter
 * http://www.osgeo.org/ Open Source Geospatial Foundation
 * http://2012.foss4g.org/ FOSS4G 2012 - Beijing, China
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[OSGeo-Discuss] FOSS4G North America Conference coming April 10-12

[Paul Ramsey]

On behalf of OSGeo North America, we’d like to invite you to attend
the Free and Open Source Software for Geospatial - North America
(FOSS4G-NA) conference being held from April 10-12, 2012 at the Walter
E. Washington Convention Center in Washington, DC.  This event will
serve as a regional follow-up to last September’s highly successful
international FOSS4G 2011 conference in Denver, Colorado, focusing on
the North American open source geospatial community.

The conference will be organized around three tracks:
- open source technology best practices and tips;
- deployment case studies; and
- emerging ideas and trends in open source.

The call for abstracts is open now and can be submitted here:
http://foss4g-na.org/abstract-submission/ .  We have space for about
50 presentations and 20 Ignite sessions, so get your submissions in!
In addition, Michael Byrne, CIO of the Federal Communications
Commission (FCC) will be delivering a keynote address, with more
speakers to be announced soon.

Paul Ramsey (me!), Conference Chair of the 2007 FOSS4G conference,
will be reprising his role, along with an experienced committee from
the North America chapter of OSGeo to back him.

We have an open call for sponsorship, which can include exhibition
space; for more information please visit
http://foss4g-na.org/sponsorship/.  The event already has strong
support from the community, with a growing set of sponsors that
includes OpenGeo, Radiant Blue, AppGeo, and Spatialytics.

For more information, please visit our site at http://foss4g-na.org/.

Space is limited to 300 attendees only, so you should sign up today to
ensure that you can be a part of this exciting event!
http://foss4g-na.org/registration/

Related Links:
http://foss4g-na.org/  FOSS4G North America 2012 Conference - Washington, DC
http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/North_America_Regional/ OSGeo North America Chapter
http://www.osgeo.org/ Open Source Geospatial Foundation
http://2012.foss4g.org FOSS4G 2012 - Beijing, China
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Opengeo License

[Paul Ramsey]

Ravi,

On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 9:33 PM, Ravi Kumar  wrote:
> Nice to see that Opengeo suite offers several Licenses of support.
> http://opengeo.org/products/suite/pricing/
> Just wish some clarity
> 1. Free downloads (and self teaching) continue ?

The community edition will always be free to download. The enterprise
edition will require registration for an evaluation. The OpenGeo
workshops (workshops.opengeo.org) are free with registration.

> 2. The License is still GNU GPL?

Yes. All components are GPL or LGPL.

> 3. A license is good for getting support, but one can do without the same,
> if competent enough..!!

We imagine our market is not individuals (who often have competence
but generally no budget) but rather organizations, whose access to
competent individuals ebbs and flows as they enter or leave the
organization, but sometimes do have budget to buy a guarantee of
access to competence (us).

Best,

P.

> OpenGeo Suite is probably a landmark development in WEB-GIS.. and going
> commercial (earning money through support) is a welcome development.
> Cheers
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] GeoCoworking

[Paul Ramsey]

Anyone co-working in Paris? I'm going to be there for a month in May,
need references for nice spaces to work.

P.
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Are there proposed ways to raise funds for OSGeoprojects?

[Paul Ramsey]

I've done collaborative funding projects by hand a couple times (and
am doing one now: if you are interested in faster PostGIS indexes and
have $5000+ to contribute, contact me) but have been repeatedly
surprised at the lack of infrastructure. Kickstarter is for artists.
I've seen some attempts at collaborative open source funding sites
come and go: are we all just too cheap for this to work?

P.

On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 12:54 PM, Tyler Mitchell  wrote:
> Great to see several conversations coming together and with some enthusiasm 
> too! :)  I'm very keen to work together with others on these ideas.  I've 
> also had quite a few discussions with people from the OSGeosphere I've met 
> during meetings this week.  I'll try to get some of my thoughts down in email 
> by Monday too.
>
> Tyler
>
> On 2011-06-03, at 11:02 AM, Duarte Carreira wrote:
>
>> Well this is a coincidence!
>>
>> I also feel that some form of active pursue of funding has to happen. 
>> Voluntary initiative to donate funds are a noble approach but one that spurs 
>> little participation.
>>
>> It seems clear there is a dividing line where we start to give a negative 
>> impression and that should be avoided at all costs. But a well written 
>> letter directed/personalized to specific organizations that are known to be 
>> big/strong adopters should be well received, and met with a significant 
>> success rate. It's not a shakedown, it's a plea for help.
>>
>> This or any other variant for that matter. The key is doing active pursue of 
>> funding. But this is not resonating as much as I thought it would...
>>
>> Duarte
>>
>>
>> -Mensagem original-
>> De: Eli Adam [mailto:ea...@co.lincoln.or.us]
>> Enviada: sexta-feira, 3 de Junho de 2011 17:41
>> Para: OSGeo Discussions
>> Cc: Duarte Carreira
>> Assunto: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Are there proposed ways to raise funds for 
>> OSGeoprojects?
>>
>> Duarte,
>>
>>     I agree with you and have similar ideas.  I just recently sent an email 
>> similar (cites National Public Radio and Wikipedia examples) to these ideas 
>> to the Board.  http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/board/2011-June/003816.html  
>> The premise of my idea is that there are numerous agencies and companies 
>> that have employees with minor budgetary authority to spend ~$500 on 
>> software and these individuals are often using OSGeo projects and getting 
>> assistance using these OSGeo projects on the email lists and IRC.  It makes 
>> sense that these people might be involved in sponsorship.  What do others 
>> think?
>>
>>     Although not heavily promoted, OSGeo and some projects can accept money 
>> through OSGeo here, http://www.osgeo.org/sponsorship/opportunities  Some 
>> have $500 minimums.
>>
>>     Here is the content of that email:
>>
>> Board,
>>
>> I started this email about six months ago and wanted to keep refining it and 
>> adding bits, but, it seems to be the opportune time to send it since it is a 
>> current topic for the Board (and it is already far too long - perhaps I 
>> should have spend more time removing not adding).
>>
>> I have some ideas pertaining to fundraising that I did not find previously 
>> discussed on the board or fundraising email lists.  Searching the wiki and 
>> board minutes didn't turn up this discussion either.  Perhaps these ideas 
>> have already been discussed and discarded in other venues.  I think that 
>> OSGEO projects could get substantial funds from many corporate and agency 
>> users in $500-$2,000 increments on an annual basis.
>>
>> I am thinking of a fundraiser very similar to the National Public Radio 
>> style in the States.  That is that for one week instead of providing high 
>> quality, commercial free, respected news and music, they focus at least 50% 
>> of the time on fundraising.  In addition to changing the focus to 
>> fundraising they use all methods possible to fundraise.  The methods seem 
>> almost extreme.  It verges on berating, guilt, coercion, and other less 
>> dignified methods.  Here are some clips that highlight some of these methods 
>> although mixed with humor, http://www.vpr.net/episode/49677/  If you have 
>> never listened to a NPR style fundraiser, I would suggest listening to one 
>> (although I also suggest listening to the station for a week without 
>> fundraiser to experience some of the more positive aspects of NPR).  There 
>> should be one on internet radio currently, perhaps someone can send out a 
>> link when their local station is fundraising.  In all the fundraising the 
>> focus is that NPR provides unique, high quality, commercial free, respected 
>> news and music and that you, yes you, can help provide that unique, high 
>> quality, commercial free, respected news and music that you and others value 
>> so much.  This is impressed upon you in that familiar authoritative NPR 
>> voice which you have come to trust and respect over the years.
>>
>> NPR has the benefit that people listen to the radio for extended periods of 

[OSGeo-Discuss] 2010 Charter Member Selection

[Paul Ramsey]

OSGeo members,

The 2010 process is complete, and the new charter members are, in
alphabetical order:

• Alex Mandel
• Andreas Hocevar
• Anne Ghisla
• Astrid Emde
• Danilo Furtado
• Gavin Fleming
• Hirofumi Hayashi
• Jo Cook
• Maria Brovelli
• Milena Nowotarska

I apologize for not sending out more process reminders, but I was on
the road in Japan and not really watching the clock. However, the
voting period has now passed, and over 50% of the membership
participated in the selection process.

Thanks to all the nominees who took the time to write to the discuss
list about their nomination.

A significant number of voters expressed that the number of slots was
not sufficient given the number of quality nominees, which is an issue
I will refer to the Board for next year's process.

Thanks for your votes,

Paul Ramsey
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Can charter members be nominated any time?

[Paul Ramsey]

This is the time of hte year... please send a nomination e-mail to
c...@osgeo.org in the next two weeks.

P

On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 8:24 AM, Landon Blake  wrote:
> Can charter members be nominated any time? Or do they need to be nominated
> at a special time of year?
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> Landon
>
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] RE: Representing Places With Intelligent URLs

[Paul Ramsey]

"All attempts to construct simple ontologies end up reinventing RDF" .. ?

On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 5:12 PM, Christopher Schmidt
 wrote:

> How about the fact that although some counties contain cities,
> some cities exist over the border between multiple counties, and
> other counties are *contained* by cities? (Queens, Manhattan, etc.)
>
> How about http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dysart_et_al,_Ontario?
>
> Any effort to turn the real world into a standard hierarchy
> will fail, because the world is Fuzzier than you realize.
>
> -- Chris
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[OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo Board Election 2010 Results

[Paul Ramsey]

OSGeo,

Here are the final results from the 2010 voting for the open seats of
the OSGeo Board of Directors. There were four seats open and they have
been filled by, in alphabetical order:

* Arnulf Christl
* Daniel Morissette
* Frank Warmerdam
* Tim Schaub

Thanks to everyone for running. The voting participation was 82% and
there were no tie scores to arbitrate.
Your complete resulting Board is:

* Arnulf Christl
* Chris Schmidt
* Daniel Morissette
* Frank Warmerdam
* Geoff Zeiss
* Jeff McKenna
* Markus Neteler
* Ravi Kumar
* Tim Schaub

We will complete the 2010 election process with the selection of new
Charter Members in September after FOSS4G.

Yours,

Paul Ramsey
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[OSGeo-Discuss] FOSS4G Spatial Database BoF

[Paul Ramsey]

Let's talk Big Picture on spatial data storage, what does the future hold?

http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/FOSS4G_2010_Breakout_Sessions#Spatial_Databases_BoF

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[OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo Board Election 2010

[Paul Ramsey]

OSGeo Charter Members,

The board election for 2010 has begun. The 2010 nominee list is available here:

  http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Board_Member_Nominations_2010

Please take the time to read the full list, then send your votes to
c...@osgeo.org.

• Only Charter Members are eligible to vote
• Choose four names from Board Member Nominations 2010 list

  Arnulf Christl
  Frank Warmerdam
  Venkatesh Raghavan
  Tim Schaub
  Lorenzo Becchi
  Daniel Morissette
  Paolo Cavallini

• Email c...@osgeo.org with a list of up to 4 names
• You can cast up to 4 votes, for 4 different people. Multiple votes
for one person will be counted as one vote.
• Voting closes midnight (your timezone) 25-August-2010
• Results will be posted at Board Election 2010 Results
• Contact c...@osgeo.org with questions

Thanks,

Paul Ramsey
OSGeo Chief Returning Officer 2010
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Are Ari Jolma and Howard Butler standing for re-election to the OSGeo Board?

[Paul Ramsey]

Only nominated members, as listed on the page, will be part of the
election process. Thus far no one has nominated Howard or Ari to stand
again for the board (or, they have declined nomination offers).

Paul

On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 9:06 AM, Landon Blake  wrote:
> I’m just curious, because I didn’t see there names listed on the nominations
> list.
>
>
>
> Landon Blake
>
> Project Surveyor
>
> California PLS 8489
>
> Office Phone Number: (209) 946-0268
>
> Cell Phone Number: (209) 992-0658
>
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> 711 North Pershing Avenue
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[OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo Board Election 2010 - Nomination Deadline Nears

[Paul Ramsey]

** The nomination period closes at the end of Thursday, August 12! **

OSGeo Members,

The OSGeo Board Election for 2010 is now underway. The first stage is
the nomination of candidates for the board. Board membership is for a
two year term, and half the Board is refreshed each year. This year
there are four seats up for election.

http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Election_2010#Board_Election

Anyone can submit a Board nomination, however only Charter Members are
eligible to serve on the Board. The complete list of charter members
is available by from

* http://www.osgeo.org/charter_members

A new charter member intake process will be run later this year.

Please submit your nominations, consisting of name and a paragraph
describing why you think this person would make a good Board member,
to c...@osgeo.org. Please ensure that your nominee is actually willing
to serve, prior to nominating them.

The nomination period will close at midnight Thursday 12th August
2010,  and will be followed by a one-week voting period.

Yours,

Paul Ramsey
OSGeo Chief Returning Officer (2010)
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[OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo Board Election 2010 - Reminder #2

[Paul Ramsey]

** The nomination period ends in 4 days! **

OSGeo Members,

The OSGeo Board Election for 2010 is now underway. The first stage is
the nomination of candidates for the board. Board membership is for a
two year term, and half the Board is refreshed each year. This year
there are four seats up for election.

http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Election_2010#Board_Election

Anyone can submit a Board nomination, however only Charter Members are
eligible to serve on the Board. The complete list of charter members
is available by from

* http://www.osgeo.org/charter_members

A new charter member intake process will be run later this year.

Please submit your nominations, consisting of name and a paragraph
describing why you think this person would make a good Board member,
to c...@osgeo.org. Please ensure that your nominee is actually willing
to serve, prior to nominating them.

The nomination period will close at midnight Thursday 12th August
2010,  and will be followed by a one-week voting period.

Yours,

Paul Ramsey
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[OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo Board Election 2010 - Reminder #1

[Paul Ramsey]

OSGeo Members,

The OSGeo Board Election for 2010 is now beginning. The first stage is
the nomination of candidates for the board. Board membership is for a
two year term, and half the Board is refreshed each year. This year
there are four seats up for election.

http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Election_2010#Board_Election

Anyone can submit a Board nomination, however only Charter Members are
eligible to serve on the Board. The complete list of charter members
is available by from

* http://www.osgeo.org/charter_members

A new charter member intake process will be run later this year.

Please submit your nominations, consisting of name and a paragraph
describing why you think this person would make a good Board member,
to c...@osgeo.org. Please ensure that your nominee is actually willing
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The nomination period will close at midnight Thursday 12th August
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[OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo Board Elections 2010

[Paul Ramsey]

OSGeo Members,

The OSGeo Board Election for 2010 is now beginning. The first stage is
the nomination of candidates for the board. Board membership is for a
two year term, and half the Board is refreshed each year. This year
there are four seats up for election.

http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Election_2010#Board_Election

Anyone can submit a Board nomination, however only Charter Members are
eligible to serve on the Board. The complete list of charter members
is available by from

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A new charter member intake process will be run later this year.

Please submit your nominations, consisting of name and a paragraph
describing why you think this person would make a good Board member,
to c...@osgeo.org. Please ensure that your nominee is actually willing
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The nomination period will close at midnight Thursday 12th August
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Help authoring tools

[Paul Ramsey]

PostGIS is docbook, a decision from Way Back.

Docbook has served us well, and in particular has provided some
unexpected benefits, in that the detailed markup have allowed
documentation-driven test frameworks to be built (we can actually
automatically test every documented function).

That said, if I were making the decision again today I'd use RST and
Sphinx, for the attractiveness of output and the human-readability of
the documentation source. It's easier to update the documentation at
source when you can easily visually scan it. I found I couldn't write
large chunks of docbook without using a WYSIWYG editor like (now
defunct) XMetaL.

P.

On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 2:15 PM, Howard Butler  wrote:
>
> On Jun 1, 2010, at 12:34 PM, Stefan Steiniger wrote:
>>> On 06/01/2010 10:00 AM, Daniel Ames wrote:
 Do any of you have a preferred open source help authoring tool? We're 
 looking for something to document our projects on web pages - something 
 better than wiki - and also to download and install with software. Must be 
 cross platform, etc. I'd like to use whatever others are using in the 
 OSGeo community for consistency... - Dan
>
>  Daniel,
>
> MapServer, GeoTools, OpenLayers, GeoServer, Shapely, libLAS, and GeoDjango 
> all use Sphinx .  In my opinion, Sphinx's great 
> advantages in order of importance are:
>
> - text-like markup (docbook is too much burden on documentation writers).  
> Restructured text is not too difficult to learn, but I wish the world would 
> agree on a text-like markup (markdown, restructured text, wikitext, etc)
> - variety of output.   Besides html, you can do ePub, PDF (multiple ways -- 
> via latex or stand alone), windows compiled help, qthelp, man
> - pretty output
> - simple installation and management
>
> I know there are some sphinx skeptics from the MapServer project on this list 
> who might chime up one way or another about its level of success within the 
> MapServer project, but I think its implementation has help our project 
> immensely.
>
> GDAL is still using Doxygen for its documentation generation.
>
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Any thoughts on the potential for using Seadragon as a map browsing interface?

[Paul Ramsey]

The next generation of Bing Maps (the current Beta) is build on Seadragon.

P

On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 8:46 PM, Landon Blake  wrote:
> I’m not a web developer, but it seemed like the tech could be used for
> browsing high-resolution map images.
>
>
>
> http://www.seadragon.com/
>
>
>
> Landon
>
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[OSGeo-Discuss] OGC + OSGeo > CSS Standards Problem?

[Paul Ramsey]

How about a test case to see if things can get better? There's now
three extant approaches for doing map styling as CSS, here's the
latest:

http://blog.geoserver.org/2010/04/05/styling-geoserver-layers-with-css/

All the implementors so far are open source. Standardizing this could
be a big win to a lot of folks. How can OGC help?
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Is the integration of FOSS4G and proprietary software good for FOSS4G?

[Paul Ramsey]

All the same to me. A frosted turd is still a turd.

P

On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 5:35 AM, Miguel Montesinos
 wrote:
> Hello,
>
>
>
> I also agree to spread open source software on as many places as possible,
> and let the users decide based on their experience.
>
>
>
> So it seems, we all agree.
>
>
>
> Do you think a different point of view would arise if, for instance, a
> project like pgRouting would port to run also on top of Oracle
> Locator/Spatial?
>
>
>
> What would be the point of view for PostGIS project? I’m very interested in
> knowing PostGIS’ people thoughts, so thanks in advance.
>
>
>
> Best,
>
>
>
> Miguel Montesinos
>
>
>
> De: discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org [mailto:discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org]
> En nombre de Ragi Burhum
> Enviado el: jueves, 18 de marzo de 2010 17:23
> Para: discuss@lists.osgeo.org
> Asunto: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Is the integration of FOSS4G and proprietary
> software good for FOSS4G?
>
>
>
> +1 on what Daniel said.
>
>
>
> Personally, my interest lies on having successful, productive, - *happy* -
> users. Not on persuading anyone from one philosophy to another one.
>
>
>
> - Ragi
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[OSGeo-Discuss] PostGIS 1.4.2 and 1.5.1 Released

[Paul Ramsey]

Patch releases of the 1.5 and 1.4 PostGIS series are now available!

http://postgis.org/download

Fixes in 1.5.1:

* #333, remove unnecessary VACUUM from install file (Kevin Neufeld)
* #410, update embedded bbox when applying ST_SetPoint, ST_AddPoint
ST_RemovePoint to a linestring (Paul Ramsey)
* #411, allow dumping tables with invalid geometries (Sandro Santilli,
for Regione Toscana-SIGTA)
* #414, include geography_columns view when running upgrade scripts
(Paul Ramsey)
* #419, allow support for multilinestring in ST_Line_Substring (Paul
Ramsey, for Lidwala Consulting Engineers)
* #421, fix computed string length in ST_AsGML() (Olivier Courtin)
* #441, fix GML generation with heterogeneous collections (Olivier Courtin)
* #443, incorrect coordinate reversal in GML 3 generation (Olivier Courtin)
* #450, wrong area calculation for geography features that cross the
date line (Paul Ramsey)
* Ensure support for upcoming 9.0 PgSQL release (Paul Ramsey)

Fixes in 1.4.2:

* #327, fix up the uninstall functions (Paul Ramsey)
* #355, build improvements for shp2pgsql-gui (Paul Ramsey)
* #387, add towgs84 arguments for SRID 28992 (Paul Ramsey)
* #409, fix ST_AsSVG with empty geometrycollection input (Olivier Courtin)
* #410, update embedded bbox when applying ST_SetPoint, ST_AddPoint,
ST_RemovePoint to a linestring (Paul Ramsey)
* #411, allow dumping tables with invalid geometries (Sandro Santilli
- work done for Regione Toscana-SIGTA)
* #421, fix computed string length in ST_AsGML() (Olivier Courtin)
* #441, fix GML generation with heterogeneous collections (Olivier Courtin)

Thanks!
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] [Fwd: GeoWeb CFP Deadline Is This Friday, March 12th]

[Paul Ramsey]

I'm too boring to figure out a paper talk myself, but I did enjoy the
panel a couple years ago. I'm happy to poke a stick in any hornets
nest you feel would be amusing...

P

On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 3:03 PM, Michael P. Gerlek  wrote:
> [ Some of you know I've been involved in this conference in the past, and 
> indeed am again this year.  I like it because it is a very different sort of 
> conference: an unusual mix of industry, academia, government, and "other".  
> If you're interested in submitting or have any questions, feel free to ping 
> me. ]
>
> -mpg
>
>
>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org [mailto:discuss-
>> boun...@lists.osgeo.org] On Behalf Of Tyler Mitchell (OSGeo)
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2010 2:44 PM
>> To: OSGeo Discussions
>> Subject: [OSGeo-Discuss] [Fwd: GeoWeb CFP Deadline Is This Friday,
>> March 12th]
>>
>> FYI - if you need an excuse to go to Vancouver, submit your abstracts
>> for GeoWeb this week.  Several OSGeo friends are usually there.
>>
>> Tyler
>>
>>
>> ---
>> July 26-30 · Vancouver, B.C. Canada · http://www.geowebconference.org
>>
>> GeoWeb 2010 Conference Submission Deadline
>> Abstracts are Due this Friday (March 12th)
>>
>> Want to be in the Program? Time is Running Out!
>> The deadline is fast approaching. Abstracts can be submitted online no
>> later than 4pm PST Friday, March 12th. The emphasis for GeoWeb 2010 is
>> Going Real Time. GeoWeb is about the technologies for information
>> sharing and collaboration respecting events and activities in the real
>> world. It is about designing our world and reacting to the changes in
>> the world around us. It is about managing our way in the world using
>> the
>> best information about the current and probable future state(s) of the
>> world.
>>
>> All submissions must include a title, theme, a detail abstract (<200
>> words) and a short description (<75 words). Presentation sessions will
>> be 35 minutes in length. Workshops will be 3 hours in length and should
>> focus on a key technology or standard.
>>
>> Presenters will be chosen based on a formal selection process led by
>> the
>> 2010 GeoWeb Planning Committee and will be notified of the status of
>> their submission by March 25, 2010. Please note that all approved
>> presenters will be provided with a 25% discount on the registration fee
>> but are responsible for their own travel and expenses.
>>
>> To learn more about GeoWeb, the details for the Call for Submissions,
>> please visit GeoWebConference.org. Questions can be directed to James
>> Sakamoto.
>>
>> Be Connected, Spread the Word
>> Watch previous keynote and invited speakers, make comments, or chime in
>> on a discussion. Stay connected to the GeoWeb Community:
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] WorldCities database Free and OpenSource

[Paul Ramsey]

http://www.geonames.org/ ?

2010/3/5 António Rocha :
> Greetings
>
> I'm doing a small tool to calculate distances between cities. I mean, I
> enter City of origin geographic position and city of destination geographic
> position and I calculate distances. The thing is, everytime I have to check
> at GOOGLE Earth a city position and it's getting to be a long a heavy task
> to do.
>
> I realized that, this
> guys http://www.assemblysys.com/dataservices/db_details.php?db=3 are
> distributing a database with cities geographic positions but this is PAID :(
> . What I wanted to know is if there is any tool/software/database free, open
> source where I can do exacly the same without having to pay for that. And
> even, maybe add a few cities positions and contribute to the project
>
> Thank you
> Toze
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Auto-cataloging of image files

[Paul Ramsey]

http://www.gdal.org/gdaltindex.html

On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 4:02 PM, Simon Cropper (Botanicus Australia
Pty Ltd)  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> First, sorry for cross-posting to anyone also on the gvSIG-International
> List.
>
> I just received a CD, and regularly receive CDs, with ~100 1km x 1km ECW
> Tiles as part of a contract. Does anyone know of a routine to scan these
> files or their associated header files and creates a shapefile showing the
> extent of each image?
>
> I sort of imagine running the routine, being asked to specify the directory
> containing the image data then having a polygon layer appear with the extent
> of each tile. The attribute table would be populated with layer name,
> coordinates, and any other metadata that can be gleaned from the files.
> --
>
> Cheers Simon
>
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Re: Will there be an OSGeo Desktop shootout atFOSS4G 2010?

[Paul Ramsey]

I'll do that talk, if there's really interest in it, but it has
nothing to do with technology or desktops, it's sociology and
psychology. And no, efforts cannot "be consolidated" (active
intervention) they "may consolidate" (natural progression).

P.

- Why? "Because, we felt like it, and we knew better."
- Pros and cons? Weighted in favor of the

On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 1:33 PM, Brian Russo  wrote:
> I think a more interesting presentation would be why there are so many
> desktop GIS packages, the consequent pros/cons, and if/how efforts could be
> consolidated.
>
> On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 11:21 AM, Stefan Steiniger 
> wrote:
>>
>> Hei all,
>>
>> thanks for Cameron on keeping me in the loop, and to Markus for
>> remembering :)  I am now subscribed to this list.
>>
>> I think Pauls idea sounds interesting - because this whole comparison
>> thing is
>> a) quite cumbersome when we have 10 desktop GIS (+ X), and
>> b) neither really worth because desktop GIS are used for a multitude of
>> tasks, while web map Servers or databases aren't that much - right?
>>
>> So as Paul is quoted on the osgeo wiki: one needs to set up use cases
>> first (just wrote that today in a new article too, which contains a section
>> on selecting free GIS software). And I also discovered that just most of the
>> projects have a different focus during my evaluation. Which of course does
>> not mean that such thing should not be presented - but it must be focussed
>> in some way or the other to have a benefit. And as a side note, I am not
>> sure if measuring processing times makes sense either, as GIS analysis
>> feature sets are so different.
>>
>> However, I am in for testing with OpenJUMP.
>>
>> Two more notes:
>> - my comparison tables are now already 2 years old now (from 2007), i.e.
>> need some update (but the last pub in Ecological Informatics took into
>> account newer developments too, but is superficial and focused towards the
>> "average" GIS users).
>> - I gave a talk about this at OGRS:
>> http://www.ogrs2009.org/doku.php?id=keynotes
>> pdf can be downloaded from there.
>>
>> cheers from Germany right now (Xmas)
>> stefan
>>
>> PS: I know also of this comparison by T. Hengl et al. on Grass vs. SAGA
>> for Geomorphologic Analysis
>> http://www.igc.usp.br/pessoais/guano/downloads/Hengl_etal_2009_gmorph.pdf
>>
>>
>> Paul Ramsey schrieb:
>>>
>>> Interested in a different approach that is lower impact, but still
>>> interesting and entertaining? Have developers review a "competing"
>>> project and then present their findings, in the form of "What I love
>>> about ___, what I hate about".
>>>
>>> Jody Garnett presents "What I love about QGIS, what I hate about QGIS."
>>> Jorge Sanz presents "What I love about uDig, what I hate about uDig."
>>> Tim Sutton presents "What I love about gvSIG, what I hate about gvSIG."
>>>
>>> Not only do you get an unvarnished view, but you can have shorter
>>> presentations with a discussion segment at the end of each one.
>>>
>>> Works for almost any application category too.
>>>
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Re: Will there be an OSGeo Desktop shootout atFOSS4G 2010?

[Paul Ramsey]

Interested in a different approach that is lower impact, but still
interesting and entertaining? Have developers review a "competing"
project and then present their findings, in the form of "What I love
about ___, what I hate about".

Jody Garnett presents "What I love about QGIS, what I hate about QGIS."
Jorge Sanz presents "What I love about uDig, what I hate about uDig."
Tim Sutton presents "What I love about gvSIG, what I hate about gvSIG."

Not only do you get an unvarnished view, but you can have shorter
presentations with a discussion segment at the end of each one.

Works for almost any application category too.

P

On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 12:12 PM, Cameron Shorter
 wrote:
> A couple of links to reviews of desktop clients at:
> http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Case_Studies#Review_of_Open_Source_Desktop_Clients
>
> In particular Stefan's summary of clients is the best I've seen so far.
> http://www.spatialserver.net/osgis/ is quite comprehensive.
>
> The steps I see toward kicking off a Desktop comparison at FOSS4G are:
>
> 1. One person to step forward and offer to drive the comparison through to
> completion. (This can be a couple of people, but it usually starts with
> one). Effectively act as a project coordinator, setting up wiki pages,
> contacting potential parties, ensuring scope is capped. Paul Ramsey, Andrea
> Aime and Jeff McKenna seemed to be the driving people behind the WMS
> shootout. If you are reading this and think you might be able to fill this
> role, then please speak up.
>
> 2. The key projects need to be contacted, and at least one volunteer
> identified for each project. Ideally, there will be at least 3/4 of the
> projects represented. Within a year or two, any potential gis desktop user
> will start their search for clients by reviewing the results of the Desktop
> shootout, so projects represented in the shootout will become the dominant
> projects. (This is why it will be important for projects to get on board)
>
> 3. Between the volunteers, and led by the coordinator, a set of benchmark
> tests should be set up. This will probably include a core set of tests that
> everyone should do relatively easily, and optional tests that each project
> can do to show off their application.
>
> 4. Lots of hard work setting up environments, and running tests. Hence it is
> important to start early if we want to have a good showing at foss4g.
>
> 5. Just before foss4g: Pens down, collate results, present.
>
> Paolo Cavallini wrote:
>>
>> sampe...@gmail.com ha scritto:
>>>
>>> A feature comparison is a good start and many masters projects have
>>> already done that as well as xcompare them to closed source desktop apps.
>>>
>>
>> Hi.
>> I only have seen a few, rather incomplete, comparisons: do you have links
>> for more? Thanks.
>> All the best.
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[OSGeo-Discuss] 2010 Code Sprint Hotel Block

[Paul Ramsey]

http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/New_York_Code_Sprint_2010

Hi all,
In order to get our block, we have to commit to a minimum number of
rooms, and that means getting a better feel for likely attendance. If
you are thinking seriously of attending, but have not yet added
yourself to the wiki, could you contact me please?
Thanks,
Paul
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[OSGeo-Discuss] 2010 New York Code Sprint

[Paul Ramsey]

Hi all, just a reminder to developers that there is a Code Sprint
being organized for February of next year in New York. Details and
coordination on the wiki!

http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/New_York_Code_Sprint_2010

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Quick hello and request for assistance finding Open Source

[Paul Ramsey]

Thanks for sticking with it, and also reporting on your pain, Simon.
Knowing where your pain is will help us lower it for those in your
train.

P

On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 5:55 PM, Simon Cropper (Botanicus Australia Pty
Ltd)  wrote:
> Peter,
>
> Sort of answered my own question. Found the EXE in the binary directory of
> PostgreSQL.
>
> Tried to get the program to work but I could not get the file to import the
> shapefile into a database. I will need to spend more time working on coming
> to grips with PostgreGIS, PostGIS and others components. This option is not
> a 'quick fix' rather 'a alternative way of thinking' -- resulting in a high
> learning curve as I have to master each individual component and the nuances
> of how the 2-3 utilities interact. Thanks anyway.
>
> Cheers Simon
>
> Simon Cropper
> Botanicus Australia Pty Ltd
> PO Box 160, Sunshine, Victoria 3020.
> P: 9311 5822. M: 041 830 3437.
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> web: www.botanicusaustralia.com.au
>
>
> Peter Batty wrote:
>
> Simon, you could do this as a PostGIS query. To take the polygon case, if
> you loaded the data into a table in PostGIS called parcel (say), you could
> run a query something like the following (not guaranteeing this is exactly
> correct but something along these lines):
> select a.id, b.id,
> ST_distance(a.geom, b.geom),
> ST_distance(ST_centroid(a.geom), ST_centroid(b.geom)),
> ST_azimuth(ST_centroid(a.geom), ST_centroid(b.geom))
> from parcel a, parcel b
>
> This would give you ids, shortest distance, distance between centroids and
> angle between centroids. There are no doubt others here who can correct my
> SQL syntax :) !
> There is a simple utility to load a shape file into PostGIS.
> Cheers,
>     Peter.
> On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 3:49 PM, Simon Cropper (Botanicus Australia Pty Ltd)
>  wrote:
>>
>> Hi Everyone,
>>
>> My name is Simon and I am an environmental consultant. I use a variety of
>> open source GIS systems and tools almost every day to analyse flora, fauna
>> and vegetation data. I am interested in OSGeo both from the standpoint (or
>> my underlying belief) that software and data should be free (you know how
>> the mantra goes) and my desire to contribute to a broader community effort
>> to develop appropriate software for users. I have been actively using
>> OpenJUMP, Kosmo, OpenEV, EveryDWG and Sextante. I have tinkered with Ilwis,
>> GRASS, Quantum (various versions) and a few others I have lost track of. I
>> am currently using GVSIG+Sextante, which I find very useful and easy to use.
>> I am an old user of ArcView 3.1+(numerous scripts/extensions).
>>
>> I have a common GIS problem but can not find any OSGeo project that has
>> provided a set of tools to combat it. I need to establish the distance+angle
>> between various geometries (points, lines, polygons) in same layer and in
>> different layers. A specific problem I currently have is finding the minimum
>> distance and angle between 200 odd polygons in the same layer. Each polygon
>> has a unique id and I want to get a table with UID_A, UID_B,
>> MINIMUM_DISTANCE, ANGLE. I know that ArcGIS and ArcView have this
>> functionality, and script exist for old versions of ArcView, but I am
>> looking for an Open Source alternative.
>>
>> Ideally such a tool would create the following data for each geometry
>> type...
>>
>> POINTS -- UID_A, UID_B, DISTANCE, ANGLE
>> LINES -- UID_A, UID_B, DISTANCE_AT_CLOSEST _POINT
>> POLYGON --  UID_A, UID_B, MIN_DISTANCE, MAX_DISTANCE, HAUSDORFF_DISTANCE,
>> CENTROID_DISTANCE, ANGLE_BETWEEN_CENTROIDS
>>
>> What I have found already...
>>
>> I have noted that Sextante can create a matrix of distances between points
>> within the same layer. With rows and column representing the complete set of
>> points being compared.
>> I have also found QGIS has a fTools Plugin that allows you to "Measure
>> distances between two point layers, and output results as a) Square distance
>> matrix, b) Linear distance matrix, or c) Summary of distances." QGIS 2009.
>> I suspect that GRASS would provide this functionality but can't get that
>> package to work on my system (even WinGRASS), so if you point me here please
>> also point me to a tutorial on getting the thing to work (this system is not
>> intuitive; My problem has been in establishing a repository and getting data
>> into it for viewing, let alone analysis; it failed the age old test that if
>> you can't even get the thing running in half an hour, the learning curve is
>> going to be way too high to use in in normal business activities; I have
>> tried - yes following their instructions - several times, and spent several
>> days reading manuals, wiki's,etc to no avail).
>>
>> BUT I can't find any tool that allows me to calculate the minimum distance
>> between polygons and indicate the direction of the polygon.
>>
>> Anyone out there know of such a tool?
>>
>> Note: I am using Windows XP Pro SP3 and store all my GIS data as
>> shapefiles.
>> --
>>
>> Cheers

Re: Request for OSGeo projects logos (was: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Looking for OSGeo projects logos)

[Paul Ramsey]

How is one supposed to do this SVN stuff without access to the SVN
repo? (hint, add pramsey)

P

On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 8:53 AM, Arnulf Christl  wrote:
> OSGeo Project Leads (incubating and graduated),
> please make sure that you upload your logos in high quality SVG format
> to the OSGeo Marketing SVN repository, please create a sub folder with
> the name of your project:
> http://svn.osgeo.org/osgeo/marketing/logo/projects/
>
> The logos will be used by the Marketing Committee, Local Chapters and
> individuals giving presentations, talks, etc. Pushing your logo there in
> high quality will add emphasis to your professionalism and help to
> promote and add visibility to your efforts.
>
> If you do not have an acceptable SVG file please upload a high
> resolution raster image, that will still be better than not having
> anything.
>
> Best regards,
> Arnulf.
>
> Jorge Gaspar Sanz Salinas wrote:
>> Lars Lingner escribió:
>>> Micho Gar schrieb:
 Hi all,

 the OSGeo spanish chapter are working on making a poster to the 5th gvSIG
 conference. We need the logos of the OSGeo projects, but in vectorial
 format, like .svg. Do you know where we can find??.

>>> There is an subversion repository: http://svn.osgeo.org/osgeo/marketing/
>>>
>>> Maybe that has some sources you could use.
>>>
>>
>> This is the place where we *should* have project logos, but at this
>> time there are just sponsors and general OSGeo branding stuff. Maybe
>> the logos are there, out of the "logo" folder...
>>
>> What about asking any project to place there the best/last logo they have?
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>
>
> --
> Arnulf Christl
> President OSGeo
> http://www.osgeo.org
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[OSGeo-Discuss] Re: "The Rabbit"

[Paul Ramsey]

Thanks Bruce, I'll do my best to keep it well hidden.
Yours,
Brother Maynard

On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 12:35 PM, Bruce Bannerman
 wrote:
> Paul,
>
> By unanimous decision of the LOC, you have been entrusted as keeper of the
> FOSS4G-2009 Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch [1].
>
> We felt it better not to leave loose ends, and know that you will keep it in
> safe hands.
>
>
> Bruce
>
> [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holy_Hand_Grenade_of_Antioch
>
>
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] code sprint before or after the conference

[Paul Ramsey]

Pick your poison. Before, people are jet lagged and worrying about
their talks. After, people are tired and worn out. I would continue to
go with a one-day event after. One day is good for sitting down and
talking, less good for coding, but the communication is really
important.

At the 4-day sprint in Toronto, day 1 was mostly used for talking. I
think if you want an event that turns out lots of new/fixed code, you
need more time, and more fresh people, which means logistically tying
it to FOSS4G is never going to be a great idea. Bolsena, Toronto,
those are the models that seem to work.

P.

On Sat, Oct 24, 2009 at 4:01 PM, Andrea Aime  wrote:
> Bart van den Eijnden (OSGIS) ha scritto:
>>
>> Hi list,
>>
>> today I was at the code sprint in Sydney, and after a whole week of
>> conference with the associated beers and late nights, nothing much
>> productive came out of me unfortunately, which was to be expected.
>>
>> So for next year in Barcelona, I would really appreciate it if the code
>> sprint code would be *before* the conference starts.
>>
>> How do other people feel about this?
>
> I have the impression the developers that are also giving presentations
> or workshops will spend the sprint on conference related stuff ;-)
> I for one have been able to make something today, but I wouldn't
> have been able to participate at all before the conference.
>
> Hard to get all people working no matter what the date chosen is I guess,
> you'll loose someone anyways I guess we can try to guess
> what option provides the least damage? Maybe we can ask people
> around what option they would have preferred.
>
> My money is on the sprint after, since I usually have workshops
> and presentations to care for. But that is just me. You'd prefer
> to have it before.
> What about the others?
>
> Cheers
> Andrea
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] FOSS4G: Beach Volleyball at Manly, Sydney, tomorrow

[Paul Ramsey]

That's the 7 bridges walk day...

P

On Sat, Oct 17, 2009 at 6:36 PM, Jeff McKenna
 wrote:
> Cameron Shorter wrote:
>>
>> For those of you in Sydney this weekend.
>>
>> I plan to head down to Manly Beach with my two sons (11 & 12), at 11:30am
>> Sunday, tomorrow, to play beach volleyball or swim, with whoever wants to
>> join us. Depending on the tide, we might take our skidboards with us which
>> are lots of fun.
>>
>> Let me know via return email, SMS, or mobile phone if you plan to join us.
>>
>> Manly is a lovely beach, 30 minutes ferry ride from the city, which is
>> worth doing by itself. There are a lot of cafes and eateries for those
>> looking for lunch.
>>
>
> OMG can we also do this next Sunday?!?!?!  :)
>
> -jeff
>
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] discussion or FUD

[Paul Ramsey]

Don't feed the trolls.

P

On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 7:30 AM, Guillaume Sueur
 wrote:
> another one here :
> http://owston.blogspot.com/2009/05/price-free-of-open-source-software-has.html
>
> how can we have ignore that guy for so long ,
>
> Regards,
>
> Guillaume
>
> Le samedi 10 octobre 2009 à 16:03 +0200, Paolo Cavallini a écrit :
>> Bart van den Eijnden (OSGIS) ha scritto:
>> > It's a rainy day here and why not read some more of his blog I thought,
>> > until I encountered:
>> >
>> > http://owston.blogspot.com/2009/05/opengeo-team-is-faster-and-better-than.html
>>
>> I thought these supposedly large companies had a better recruitment methods, 
>> avoiding
>> people that makes "r*e*diculous statement" ;)
>> All the best.
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Next 5 years for OSGeo

[Paul Ramsey]

On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 7:54 AM, Ian Turton  wrote:

> So *I* think that universities are a lost cause and we should focus on
> high schools

Forget the great unwashed, think about providing useful materials
online to people who actually *want* to learn about the tools.
http://workshops.opengeo.org/ is the starting point we're using
corporately, at least salvaging the teaching effort we're expending at
conferences. Hats off to all teachers though -- preparing course
materials is a labor intensive grind, and like code the materials
require constant maintenance when you're teaching something as dynamic
as IT.

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Next 5 years for OSGeo

[Paul Ramsey]

That kind of high-touch approach will have to be left to those (like,
hopefully OpenGeo) who are building and monetizing products around the
core software. The non-profit core organization can't do that unless
it's willing to become much more vendor-like, which is something OSGeo
has repeatedly shied away from (perhaps because OSGeo has many members
who work for companies, that, like OpenGeo, are monetizing open
source).

As Alaric the Visigoth once said "Rome wasn't sacked in a day".

P.

On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 9:24 AM, Chris Puttick
 wrote:

> Marketing. Branding. Lots of ferrying decision makers to shiny demo labs and 
> glossy events and making them feel good about the product, regardless of the 
> fact that driving sports cars around race tracks has nothing to do with the 
> promo'd products effectiveness (although such events should provide some 
> pointers about value for money...).
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Next 5 years for OSGeo

[Paul Ramsey]

On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 7:44 AM, Christopher Schmidt
 wrote:

> For this reason, efforts like "Marketing" are (in my opinion) less important
> than, for example, setting up a test server for running buildbot, or other
> things that help software become successful.

I agree with Chris, and I think it's important to stress what while
marketing activities are *less* important than support activities for
the development of the software, that does not mean that marketing
activities are *unimportant*. Just that, in the hierarchy of things
OSGeo should concern itself with, keeping the development lights on is
number one. Once that's taken care of, all power to marketing! Because
without software, the marketing doesn't have much purpose.

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[OSGeo-Discuss] 2009 Board Election Results

[Paul Ramsey]

http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Board_Election_2009_Results

Here are the final results from the voting for the open seats of the
OSGeo Board of Directors.  There were five seats open and they have
been filled by, in alphabetical order:

* Chris Schmidt
* Geoff Zeiss
* Jeff McKenna
* Markus Neteler (re-elected)
* Ravi Kumar

Thanks to everyone for running, it was a very large field of really
excellent candidates, it's a shame the board isn't bigger.  The voting
participation was middling at 73% and there were no tie scores to
arbitrate.

Your complete resulting Board is:

* Ari Jolma
* Arnulf Christl
* Frank Warmerdam
* Howard Butler
* Markus Neteler
* Chris Schmidt
* Geoff Zeiss
* Jeff McKenna
* Ravi Kumar

http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Board_of_Directors

Yours,

Paul Ramsey
CRO 2009
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[OSGeo-Discuss] Board Election: Geoff Zeiss

[Paul Ramsey]

I received this from Geoff Zeiss:

--

Objectives

My background is technical.  For 20 years I did or was responsible for
software engineering at several companies. Last year I spoke at over
35 events and at most of these events I had an opportunity to talk
about and evangelize OSGEO and open source geospatial.

My key objective is to evangelize OSGEO worldwide, specifically into
vertical sectors where there are opportunities for which open source
geospatial is appropriate and where the benefits of open source
geospatial have not been recognized to the extent that the traditional
GIS or geospatial space has, where OSGEO and open source geospatial
are already very well recognized.
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[OSGeo-Discuss] 2009 Board Election - Statements

[Paul Ramsey]

Dear Board Candidates,

There are 14 of you, and only 5 board slots open this year, so it is
going to be tough for members to vote. In the interests of providing
the members with some more to go on than the nomination statements, it
would be great if you could take time out in the next day or so and
write a brief note to discuss@lists.osgeo.org stating your
goals/objectives/vision/hopes or some subset/superset thereof for
OSGeo.

If you could use a subject line: "Board Election: Your Name" in your
note, that will help folks see your statement in the list traffic. As
I see them, I'll put your statements into the nomination wiki page (or
if you're feeling generous, you can do it for me).

Thanks so much,

Paul Ramsey
OSGeo Chief Returning Officer 2009
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[OSGeo-Discuss] Board 2009 Nominations

[Paul Ramsey]

Rec'd to date: http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Board_Member_Nominations_2009

Nominations are open for 12 more hours.

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[OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo Board Elections 2009

[Paul Ramsey]

IMPORTANT: The nomination period for the OSGeo Board Election for 2009
closes tomorrow.

Board membership is for a two year term, and half the Board is
refreshed each year. This year there are five seats up for election.

http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Election_2009#Board_Election

Anyone can submit a Board nomination, however only Charter Members are
eligible to serve on the Board. The complete list of charter members
is available here

* http://www.osgeo.org/charter_members

Please submit your nominations, consisting of name and a paragraph
describing why you think this person would make a good Board member,
to c...@osgeo.org. Please ensure that your nominee is actually willing
to serve, prior to nominating them.

The nomination period will close at midnight Monday 21th September
2009, and will be followed by a one-week voting period.

Yours,

Paul Ramsey
OSGeo Chief Returning Officer (2009)
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[OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo Board Elections 2009

[Paul Ramsey]

OSGeo Members,

The OSGeo Board Election for 2009 is now underway. The first stage is
the nomination of candidates for the board. Board membership is for a
two year term, and half the Board is refreshed each year. This year
there are five seats up for election.

http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Election_2009#Board_Election

Anyone can submit a Board nomination, however only Charter Members are
eligible to serve on the Board. The complete list of charter members
is available by combining

* (2009 additions) http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/New_Member_Nominations_2009
* (Prior years) http://www.osgeo.org/charter_members

Please submit your nominations, consisting of name and a paragraph
describing why you think this person would make a good Board member,
to c...@osgeo.org. Please ensure that your nominee is actually willing
to serve, prior to nominating them.

The nomination period will close at midnight Monday 21th September
2009, and will be followed by a one-week voting period.

Yours,

Paul Ramsey
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[OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo Board Elections 2009

[Paul Ramsey]

OSGeo Members,

The OSGeo Board Election for 2009 is now beginning. The first stage is
the nomination of candidates for the board. Board membership is for a
two year term, and half the Board is refreshed each year. This year
there are five seats up for election.

http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Election_2009#Board_Election

Anyone can submit a Board nomination, however only Charter Members are
eligible to serve on the Board. The complete list of charter members
is available by combining

* (2009 additions) http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/New_Member_Nominations_2009
* (Prior years) http://www.osgeo.org/charter_members

Please submit your nominations, consisting of name and a paragraph
describing why you think this person would make a good Board member,
to c...@osgeo.org. Please ensure that your nominee is actually willing
to serve, prior to nominating them.

The nomination period will close at midnight Monday 21th September
2009, and will be followed by a one-week voting period.

Yours,

Paul Ramsey
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Open File Formats andProprietaryAlgorithms[SEC=UNCLASSIFIED]

[Paul Ramsey]

So hung up on wavelets, we are.

Internally tiled TIFF with JPEG compression and similarly formatted
internal overviews can achieve 10:1 compression rates without
noticeable image quality reductions, and as an added bonus can be
decompressed a heck of a lot faster than wavelet-based formats. The
wavelet stuff is k00l, in that there is no need for an overview
pyramid (it's implicit in the compression math) and much higher
compression rates can be achieved. But operationally, you can go a
long way with the more primitive (open image format + open compression
algorithm) approach.

P.
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[OSGeo-Discuss] FOSS4G on Windows

[Paul Ramsey]

It's not a matter of "like" or "not like" it's a matter of "hassle" or
"no hassle". I work on OS/X and Linux, and compiling there is
radically different than compiling on Windows. And while OS/X and
Linux and Solaris have slight system API differences which require a
little working around, Windows can have quite large differences.

So the same level of "n!" that applies to a windows person being
asked to install linux software applies to a unix developer being
asked to compile and package on windows. It's a pain -- I am so glad
our developer community includes people like Mark (who can do it) and
Regina (who actually really wants to do it).  The only thing that
would be better would be having a developer who actually uses windows
as their primary development environment, then we'd catch platform
differences in closer to real time.

P.

On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 8:11 AM, Tyler Mitchell
(OSGeo) wrote:
> Just generally keep in mind though as well, that some open source is
> only intended to run on Windows and many projects do recognise the
> importance of that platform, particularly in the GIS arena.  So while
> many may not like, many don't seem to really mind and look at it as one
> more diverse OS to support.
>
> Tyler
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[OSGeo-Discuss] PostGIS 1.4.0 Released

[Paul Ramsey]

July 24, 2009

The PostGIS development team has, after a long period of meditation
and soul searching, released version 1.4.0 of the spatial data
extension for PostgreSQL.

  http://postgis.refractions.net/download/postgis-1.4.0.tar.gz

This new version of PostGIS includes substantial performance
enhancements, more detailed reference documentation, new output
formats (GeoJSON) and an improved internal testing system. PostGIS 1.4
also supports the recent PostgreSQL 8.4 release.

Thanks to everyone who helped by testing during the release candidate process!

Your PostGIS Team

-- Detailed PostGIS 1.4 Release Notes --

   - As of the 1.4 release series, the public API of PostGIS will not
 change during minor releases.

 - Compatibility
   - The versions below are the *minimum* requirements for PostGIS 1.4
   - PostgreSQL 8.2 and higher on all platforms
   - GEOS 3.0 and higher only
   - PROJ4 4.5 and higher only

 - New Features
   - ST_Union() uses high-speed cascaded union when compiled against
 GEOS 3.1+ (Paul Ramsey)
   - ST_ContainsProperly() requires GEOS 3.1+
   - ST_Intersects(), ST_Contains(), ST_Within() use high-speed cached
 prepared geometry against GEOS 3.1+ (Paul Ramsey)
   - Vastly improved documentation and reference manual
 (Regina Obe & Kevin Neufeld)
   - Figures and diagram examples in the reference manual (Kevin Neufeld)
   - ST_IsValidReason() returns readable explanations for validity
 failures (Paul Ramsey)
   - ST_GeoHash() returns a geohash.org signature for geometries
     (Paul Ramsey)
   - GTK+ multi-platform GUI for shape file loading (Paul Ramsey)
   - ST_LineCrossingDirection() returns crossing directions (Paul Ramsey)
   - ST_LocateBetweenElevations() returns sub-string based on Z-ordinate.
     (Paul Ramsey)
   - Geometry parser returns explicit error message about location of
 syntax errors (Mark Cave-Ayland)
   - ST_AsGeoJSON() return JSON formatted
   - Populate_Geometry_Columns() -- automatically add records to
 geometry_columns for TABLES and VIEWS (Kevin Neufeld)
   - ST_MinimumBoundingCircle() -- returns the smallest circle
 polygon that can encompass a geometry (Bruce Rindahl)

 - Enhancements
   - Core geometry system moved into independent library, liblwgeom.
 (Mark Cave-Ayland)
   - New build system uses PostgreSQL "pgxs" build bootstrapper.
 (Mark Cave-Ayland)
   - Debugging framework formalized and simplified. (Mark Cave-Ayland)
   - All build-time #defines generated at configure time and placed in
 headers for easier cross-platform support (Mark Cave-Ayland)
   - Logging framework formalized and simplified (Mark Cave-Ayland)
   - Expanded and more stable support for CIRCULARSTRING,
 COMPOUNDCURVE and CURVEPOLYGON, better parsing,
 wider support in functions (Mark Leslie & Mark Cave-Ayland)
   - Improved support for OpenSolaris builds (Paul Ramsey)
   - Improved support for MSVC builds (Mateusz Loskot)
   - Updated KML support (Olivier Courtin)
   - Unit testing framework for liblwgeom (Paul Ramsey)
   - New testing framework to comprehensively exercise every
 PostGIS function (Regine Obe)
   - Performance improvements to all geometry aggregate
     functions (Paul Ramsey)
   - Support for the upcoming PostgreSQL 8.4 (Mark Cave-Ayland,
 Talha Bin Rizwan)
   - Shp2pgsql and pgsql2shp re-worked to depend on
 the common parsing/unparsing code in liblwgeom (Mark Cave-Ayland)
   - Use of PDF DbLatex to build PDF docs and preliminary
 instructions for build  (Jean David Techer)
   - Automated User documentation build (PDF and HTML) and
 Developer Doxygen Documentation (Kevin Neufeld)
   - Automated build of document images using ImageMagick
 from WKT geometry text files (Kevin Neufeld)
   - More attractive CSS for HTML documentation
 (Dane Springmeyer)
 - Bug fixes
   - 
http://trac.osgeo.org/postgis/query?status=closed&milestone=postgis+1.4.0&order=priority
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[OSGeo-Discuss] PgSQL Italian translation

[Paul Ramsey]

PostgreSQL 8.4 is shipping without italian translations, because the
translations are incomplete. You can be a PostgreSQL hero if you know
Italian and bring the translation up to snuff...

http://babel.postgresql.org/

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] is proj.4 an OSGeo project?

[Paul Ramsey]

You're not the first person to ask this question, by any stretch.

P

On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 8:46 AM, Marco Lechner - FOSSGIS
e.V. wrote:
> first read then shout - sorry - found it as subproject of metaCRS (of
> course)
>
> Marco Lechner - FOSSGIS e.V. schrieb:
>>
>> Is proj.4 an OSGeo project? I thought so, but it's not listed on the OSGeo
>> Homepage where all the projects are named.
>>
>> Marco
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] trac non-functional

[Paul Ramsey]

If a pgsql dba is needed, I can step up to that.

On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 7:01 AM, Howard Butler  wrote:

>
> On Jun 19, 2009, at 6:35 AM, Paolo Cavallini wrote:
>
>  Hi all.
>> Are there any plans to solve the horrible slowness and tendency to
>> return errors of the trac? We are working a lot on the qgis trac, but it
>> is a real pain, to the point that we are kind of thinking to write an
>> interface to the trac caching the results for quick search (what a waste
>> of time).
>>
>
> Paolo,
>
> The problem is a volunteer manpower one.  There are definitely plans, it is
> just a matter of finding the time in which we can shut down and implement
> them.  I'm sorry that I can't give a better answer than that.  If you have
> time you can devote to the effort, please join the SAC list, and we can get
> you up to date with all of the issues.  We would happily add another
> administrator of Trac if you have lots of familiarity with it (especially
> mod_python, mod_wsgi and sqlite{1,3} vs external db like pg).
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[OSGeo-Discuss] Re: PostGIS 1.4.0 Beta 1

[Paul Ramsey]

FYI, there is a newer GEOS just now available:

 http://download.osgeo.org/geos/geos-3.1.1.tar.bz2

On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 2:12 PM, Paul Ramsey wrote:
> The PostGIS team is super happy to announce that a beta release of
> PostGIS 1.4.0 is now available for download and testing!
>
>  http://postgis.refractions.net/download/postgis-1.4.0b1.tar.gz
>
> The 1.4 series includes a large number of new features, fixes,
> speed-ups and mini chocolate chip cookies.
>
> PostGIS 1.4 is best consumed along side helpings of the latest Proj4
> and GEOS libraries:
>
>  http://download.osgeo.org/proj/proj-4.6.1.tar.gz
>  http://download.osgeo.org/geos/geos-3.1.0.tar.bz2
>
> We appreciate all possible testing and feed-back you can provide to
> make the upcoming 1.4 release a high quality affair. The sooner we get
> feedback, the sooner we can release 1.4.0!
>
> Here are some more details about 1.4:
>
>  - API Stability
>   - As of the 1.4 release series, the public API of PostGIS will not
>         change during minor releases.
>
>  - Compatibility
>   - The versions below are the *minimum* requirements for PostGIS 1.4
>   - PostgreSQL 8.2 and higher on all platforms
>   - GEOS 3.0 and higher only
>   - PROJ4 4.5 and higher only
>
>  - New Features
>   - ST_Union() uses high-speed cascaded union when compiled against
>         GEOS 3.1+ (Paul Ramsey)
>   - ST_ContainsProperly() requires GEOS 3.1+
>   - ST_Intersects(), ST_Contains(), ST_Within() use high-speed cached
>         prepared geometry against GEOS 3.1+ (Paul Ramsey)
>   - Vastly improved documentation and reference manual
>         (Regina Obe & Kevin Neufeld)
>   - Figures and diagram examples in the reference manual (Kevin Neufeld)
>   - ST_IsValidReason() returns readable explanations for validity
>         failures (Paul Ramsey)
>   - ST_GeoHash() returns a geohash.org signature for geometries
>         (Paul Ramsey)
>   - GTK+ multi-platform GUI for shape file loading (Paul Ramsey)
>   - ST_LineCrossingDirection() returns crossing directions (Paul Ramsey)
>   - ST_LocateBetweenElevations() returns sub-string based on Z-ordinate.
>         (Paul Ramsey)
>   - Geometry parser returns explicit error message about location of
>         syntax errors (Mark Cave-Ayland)
>   - ST_AsGeoJSON() return JSON formatted geometry (Olivier Courtin)
>   - Populate_Geometry_Columns() -- automatically add records to
>         geometry_columns for TABLES and VIEWS (Kevin Neufeld)
>
>  - Enhancements
>   - Core geometry system moved into independent library, liblwgeom.
>         (Mark Cave-Ayland)
>   - New build system uses PostgreSQL "pgxs" build bootstrapper.
>         (Mark Cave-Ayland)
>   - Debugging framework formalized and simplified. (Mark Cave-Ayland)
>   - All build-time #defines generated at configure time and placed in
>         headers for easier cross-platform support (Mark Cave-Ayland)
>   - Logging framework formalized and simplified (Mark Cave-Ayland)
>   - Expanded and more stable support for CIRCULARSTRING,
>         COMPOUNDCURVE and CURVEPOLYGON, better parsing, wider support
>         in functions (Mark Leslie & Mark Cave-Ayland)
>   - Improved support for OpenSolaris builds (Paul Ramsey)
>   - Improved support for MSVC builds (Mateusz Loskot)
>   - Updated KML support (Olivier Courtin)
>   - Unit testing framework for liblwgeom (Paul Ramsey)
>   - New testing framework to comprehensively exercise every PostGIS
>         function (Regine Obe)
>   - Performance improvements to all geometry aggregate functions
>         (Paul Ramsey)
>   - Support for the upcoming PostgreSQL 8.4 (Mark Cave-Ayland, Talha Bin
>         Rizwan)
>   - Shp2pgsql and pgsql2shp re-worked to depend on the common
>         parsing/unparsing code in liblwgeom (Mark Cave-Ayland)
>   - Use of PDF DbLatex to build PDF docs and preliminary instructions
>     for build  (Jean David Techer)
>   - Automated User documentation build (PDF and HTML) and
>     Developer Doxygen Documentation (Kevin Neufeld)
>   - Automated build of document images using ImageMagick
>     from WKT geometry text files (Kevin Neufeld)
>   - More attractive CSS for HTML documentation (Dane Springmeyer)
>  - Bug fixes
>   - 
> http://trac.osgeo.org/postgis/query?status=closed&milestone=postgis+1.4.0&order=priority
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[OSGeo-Discuss] PostGIS 1.4.0 Beta 1

[Paul Ramsey]

The PostGIS team is super happy to announce that a beta release of
PostGIS 1.4.0 is now available for download and testing!

  http://postgis.refractions.net/download/postgis-1.4.0b1.tar.gz

The 1.4 series includes a large number of new features, fixes,
speed-ups and mini chocolate chip cookies.

PostGIS 1.4 is best consumed along side helpings of the latest Proj4
and GEOS libraries:

  http://download.osgeo.org/proj/proj-4.6.1.tar.gz
  http://download.osgeo.org/geos/geos-3.1.0.tar.bz2

We appreciate all possible testing and feed-back you can provide to
make the upcoming 1.4 release a high quality affair. The sooner we get
feedback, the sooner we can release 1.4.0!

Here are some more details about 1.4:

 - API Stability
   - As of the 1.4 release series, the public API of PostGIS will not
 change during minor releases.

 - Compatibility
   - The versions below are the *minimum* requirements for PostGIS 1.4
   - PostgreSQL 8.2 and higher on all platforms
   - GEOS 3.0 and higher only
   - PROJ4 4.5 and higher only

 - New Features
   - ST_Union() uses high-speed cascaded union when compiled against
 GEOS 3.1+ (Paul Ramsey)
   - ST_ContainsProperly() requires GEOS 3.1+
   - ST_Intersects(), ST_Contains(), ST_Within() use high-speed cached
 prepared geometry against GEOS 3.1+ (Paul Ramsey)
   - Vastly improved documentation and reference manual
 (Regina Obe & Kevin Neufeld)
   - Figures and diagram examples in the reference manual (Kevin Neufeld)
   - ST_IsValidReason() returns readable explanations for validity
 failures (Paul Ramsey)
   - ST_GeoHash() returns a geohash.org signature for geometries
     (Paul Ramsey)
   - GTK+ multi-platform GUI for shape file loading (Paul Ramsey)
   - ST_LineCrossingDirection() returns crossing directions (Paul Ramsey)
   - ST_LocateBetweenElevations() returns sub-string based on Z-ordinate.
     (Paul Ramsey)
   - Geometry parser returns explicit error message about location of
 syntax errors (Mark Cave-Ayland)
   - ST_AsGeoJSON() return JSON formatted geometry (Olivier Courtin)
   - Populate_Geometry_Columns() -- automatically add records to
 geometry_columns for TABLES and VIEWS (Kevin Neufeld)

 - Enhancements
   - Core geometry system moved into independent library, liblwgeom.
 (Mark Cave-Ayland)
   - New build system uses PostgreSQL "pgxs" build bootstrapper.
 (Mark Cave-Ayland)
   - Debugging framework formalized and simplified. (Mark Cave-Ayland)
   - All build-time #defines generated at configure time and placed in
 headers for easier cross-platform support (Mark Cave-Ayland)
   - Logging framework formalized and simplified (Mark Cave-Ayland)
   - Expanded and more stable support for CIRCULARSTRING,
 COMPOUNDCURVE and CURVEPOLYGON, better parsing, wider support
 in functions (Mark Leslie & Mark Cave-Ayland)
   - Improved support for OpenSolaris builds (Paul Ramsey)
   - Improved support for MSVC builds (Mateusz Loskot)
   - Updated KML support (Olivier Courtin)
   - Unit testing framework for liblwgeom (Paul Ramsey)
   - New testing framework to comprehensively exercise every PostGIS
 function (Regine Obe)
   - Performance improvements to all geometry aggregate functions
     (Paul Ramsey)
   - Support for the upcoming PostgreSQL 8.4 (Mark Cave-Ayland, Talha Bin
 Rizwan)
   - Shp2pgsql and pgsql2shp re-worked to depend on the common
 parsing/unparsing code in liblwgeom (Mark Cave-Ayland)
   - Use of PDF DbLatex to build PDF docs and preliminary instructions
 for build  (Jean David Techer)
   - Automated User documentation build (PDF and HTML) and
 Developer Doxygen Documentation (Kevin Neufeld)
   - Automated build of document images using ImageMagick
 from WKT geometry text files (Kevin Neufeld)
   - More attractive CSS for HTML documentation (Dane Springmeyer)
 - Bug fixes
   - 
http://trac.osgeo.org/postgis/query?status=closed&milestone=postgis+1.4.0&order=priority
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] process for copyright assignment

[Paul Ramsey]

Incidentally, here's a contributor agreement written by Sun and then
Creative Commons licensed for "shared copyright".

http://www.opennms.org/documentation/ContributorAgreement.pdf

P.

On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 1:10 PM, Tim Schaub  wrote:
> Hey-
>
> I'm hoping to hear some discussion that results in the creation of
> guidelines for new, pre-incubation projects wishing to assign copyright to
> OSGeo.
>
> Ideally, these guidelines would be as simple as:
>  1) Follow instructions for becoming a "labs" project
> http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/OSGeo_Labs
>  2) Follow instructions on assigning copyright
> http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Project_Copyright_Assignment
>
> Both of the above pages would require some modification.
>
> I'd suggest a section on the labs page about "becoming a labs project"
> (perhaps as simple as editing that wiki page).
>
> On the copyright page, it would be nice if the preferred template replaced
> the old one and if there were some instruction on what to do with a signed
> agreement (e.g. mail to X).
>
> Does this seem reasonable?
>
> This has been brought up previously ([1], [2]).  Previous suggestions have
> been "don't ask, just assign" and "ask existing project to accept
> governance."  Since the former feels sleazy and the latter assumes some
> existing project is motivated to assist the new project, I'm hoping there
> can be something in between.
>
> Also, since I don't pretend to understand all the implications of assigning
> copyright, I would accept "OSGeo doesn't encourage this" as an answer.
>
> Thanks for any ideas (and I'm happy to help with drafting any guidelines).
>
> Tim
>
>
> [1] http://n2.nabble.com/copyright-question-td2088465.html
> [2] http://n2.nabble.com/Starting-new-projects-under-OSGEO-td2083937.html
>
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Generic Geometry Library (ggl)

[Paul Ramsey]

On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 5:11 AM, Barend Gehrels
 wrote:

> Because of this the library is following OGC conventions loosely, not
> strictly. All algorithms are implemented as standalone functions, instead of
> methods on geometries. Nevertheless, OGC conventions, names and meanings are
> followed as much as possible. Not all OGC algorithms are already
> implemented. On the other hand the library offers other things such as
> distance calculations over the globe.

What algorithms *are* implemented? I see that buffer exists, but only
for boxes. (!)

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[OSGeo-Discuss] Where 2.0 Topics

[Paul Ramsey]

Question: What is the one thing from the open source world that the  
hipsters, venture capitalists and other black-clad denizens of Where  
2.0 absolutely *must* hear this year?


Looking for the golden topic,
Paul

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[OSGeo-Discuss] PgCon Speaking Opportunity

[Paul Ramsey]

The folks organizing PgCon are looking for most PostGIS / spatial  
content. If you're interested in speaking, please submit an abstract:


http://www.pgcon.org/2009/

They specifically said: "Please let people know they don't have to be  
hard-core DB geeks, app on top of PG are fine"



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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Relationship between Telascience and the OSGeo

[Paul Ramsey]

Amazon perhaps. Google might find it cuts a little too close to the
bone. Chris, have you approached the AWS folks about hosting OAM? It's
a little more involved than just data storage, they'd also need to
provide a couple EC2 instances to receive and process the new data,
but it would remove the hosting and scalability issues nicely.

P.

On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 3:16 PM, Joseph Gentle  wrote:
> If need be, I suspect both amazon and google would be happy to help
> with hosting.
>
> http://aws.amazon.com/publicdatasets/
>
> -J
>
> On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 9:55 AM, Landon Blake  wrote:
>> Frank wrote: "Clarifying such a matter is not trivial in an organization
>> with many different ideas like OSGeo."
>>
>> Roger that. So I guess it boils down to the internal support for this
>> type of service.
>>
>> Frank wrote: "I'm not sure if telascience accepts public donations or
>> not, nor whether it is 501(c)3 which might matter for tax purposes."
>>
>> Roger that. I wonder if it would be possible to make a donation to
>> telascience trough OSGeo, which would be tax deductible...
>>
>> Landon
>> Office Phone Number: (209) 946-0268
>> Cell Phone Number: (209) 992-0658
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org
>> [mailto:discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org] On Behalf Of Frank Warmerdam
>> Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 2:53 PM
>> To: OSGeo Discussions
>> Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Relationship between Telascience and the
>> OSGeo
>>
>> Landon Blake wrote:
>>> Frank wrote: "In addition to the servers provided by Telascience we
>> also
>>> have two rented
>>> servers at Peer1 (svn, trac, drupal, and mailman are on one of these
>>> servers).
>>> We are paying nearly $15K/yr for these two servers."
>>>
>>> Wow! Does our traffic require two dedicated servers like this?
>>
>> Landon,
>>
>> The arrangement at Peer1 was made primarily with the goal of having
>> a reliable decent server able to support svn/trac and related project
>> services.  The second server is primarily serving as a backup though
>> the wiki is hosted there.
>>
>> We are contemplating dropping use of the second Peer1 server to save
>> funds.
>>
>>> Frank wrote: " So far geospatial data hosting has been accomplished
>> via
>>> the servers at
>>> Telascience.  OSGeo has not to-date provided any resources of it's own
>>> (ie. budgeted for) in support of hosting geodata.
>>>
>>> Large scale geodata hosting is pretty demanding from a computational,
>>> disk space and bandwidth point of view and it would be likely be
>>> cost prohibitive for us to pursue it in a big way on commercially
>>> priced servers like the ones at Peer1."
>>>
>>> Is it the space requirements that make geodata hosting demanding, the
>>> bandwith requirements for download, or both?
>>
>> Both.  Bandwidth overages at Peer1 can mount up to be expensive very
>> quickly, so we already host our most bandwidth intensive applications
>> (download.osgeo.org and existing geodata services) at telascience.
>>
>> I'm presuming the hosted data would be made available as web services
>> (WMS, WCS, etc) not just a download site.
>>
>>> Frank wrote: " There is some question in my mind just how central the
>>> *hosting* of
>>> free geodata is to our mission."
>>>
>>> It would be great to get this clarified.
>>
>> Clarifying such a matter is not trivial in an organization with
>> many different ideas like OSGeo.
>>
>>> I had originally asked this question because I might be able to make a
>>> small donation to support free geodata hosting. I was trying to figure
>>> out which organization would be the best suited for the donation.
>> Sounds
>>> like it should go to telascience. We'll see how my taxes works out
>> this
>>> year. :]
>>
>> I'm not sure if telascience accepts public donations or not, nor whether
>> it is 501(c)3 which might matter for tax purposes.
>>
>> Best regards,
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