[OSGeo-Discuss] C# DotSpatial Library Workshop at FOSS4G
Hey all, Just a quick invitation to sign up for our C# DotSpatial Library workshop at FOSS4G. We're excited to show you all what the DotNet/DotSpatial group has accomplished in the last year, and for any of you who like to code in C# (or want to learn) we hope you'll enjoy this workshop. By the end of the workshop you will be fully equipped to design and deploy a full GIS desktop application. Tutorials include working with projections, using the map/legend controls, working with vector/raster data types, etc. Also, although the focus is on C#, we will also have materials available to do the tutorials in VB.NET. - Dan P.S. For those of you who are unfamiliar with DotSpatial: it's goal is to bring together all the best .NET based FOSS4g tools into a single well-integrated programming suite as an alternative to ArcObjects for custom GIS software/tool development. P.P.S. A DotSpatial OSGeo project incubation application is being prepared, so this workshop will also be used to introduce the project in general for that purpose. -- Daniel P. Ames, Ph.D. PE Associate Professor, Geosciences Idaho State University - Idaho Falls dan.a...@isu.edu geology.isu.edu www.mapwindow.org ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Workshops filling up...
Nitin, your email was great to read because it highlights the healthy state of affairs in the FOSS4g world... Too many great choices! - Dan -- Daniel P. Ames, Ph.D. PE Associate Professor, Geosciences Idaho State University - Idaho Falls dan.a...@isu.edu geology.isu.edu www.mapwindow.org On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 10:34 AM, Nitin Gadia nitty...@gmail.com wrote: sorry everyone! I did mean to only message Tyler, but feel free to continue the thread as he said... nitin On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 11:21 AM, Tyler Mitchell tmitch...@osgeo.org wrote: Was sure if you meant to response privately, but thought others might have the same questions, so replying on the list too :) On 2011-08-10, at 9:05 AM, Nitin Gadia wrote: One quick question - I'm thinking the Introduction to Geospatial Opensource would be the best for me... It appears that I can pay $150 for the full day event ... is that true? This is correct - it is a full day of excellent talks, and will give a great overview of where things are at. But it is not a hands-on workshop which seems more like what you are after. Other than that, there are so many to choose from - Geoserver, Geomoose, PostGIS, Mapfish, and Geomajas. The A Complete Web Mapping Stack looks really good... as does GeoNetwork for dummies, or how to setup and use an SDI in 3 hours... From your past conversations it sounds like you need some kind of stack focused session that covers several layers of tools, so I think you're on track with that one. You probably can't go wrong unless you chose a more advanced topic or one that is looking only at one piece of the larger architecture (like PostGIS). Just a thought, hope you can make it! Tyler ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Advice - alternative to google maps v3 Javascript API????
I'm copying your question to the DotNet OSGeo group who might have some suggestions. You could look at both SharpMap and DotSpatial as ASP.NET back ends for example. - Dan On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 3:05 AM, quade m...@websolving.co.uk wrote: Hi all I'm trying to develop a vehicle tracking system I'd planned to use the google maps api However, someone mentioned they want lots of money per year to use it, and suggested openlayers instead I'm really confused about the whole thing Can i use openlayers (or anything else) and use the title maps from google maps and still get around the licence issue? I'm a .net developer, but have no experience in maps so have a steep learning curve I would really appreciate some guidance on my options Thanks all Mark -- View this message in context: http://osgeo-org.1803224.n2.nabble.com/Advice-alternative-to-google-maps-v3-Javascript-API-tp6524139p6524139.html Sent from the OSGeo Discuss mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss -- Daniel P. Ames, Ph.D. PE Associate Professor, Geosciences Idaho State University - Idaho Falls dan.a...@isu.edu geology.isu.edu www.mapwindow.org ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Training and certification
I tend to agree with Cameron on this one. There is already the GISci certification process that we don't want to compete with. Plus which particular tools from the OSGeo stack would one be required to be proficient in to be OSGeo Certified. I think that if a particular project wanted to create a certification program - perhaps with help from OSGeo - that would make more sense. One could become certified in GRASS. But to say you are OSGeo Certified would be hard to quantify/explain. On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 1:08 AM, Cameron Shorter cameron.shor...@gmail.comwrote: On 10/06/2011 4:07 PM, Paolo Cavallini wrote: Il 09/06/2011 21:38, Tyler Mitchell ha scritto: Anyone else thinking about this or want to weigh-in on what their thoughts were? If this competes with the activities the professionals and enterprises are currently offering, -1. We want OSGeo to support our work, not to compete with it. This would have a number of negative consequences, IMHO. All the best. Like Paolo, I'm very nervous about OSGeo taking on a training role for the same reasons. Providing good training is a difficult business, which is provided by many of the OSGeo businesses who back OSGeo. If OSGeo starts to act as a business by providing such training, then OSGeo will start competing against its' core supporters. This has the potential to fracture the very strong OSGeo community, which is a bad thing. And while in principle, the idea of OSGeo providing a trusted, unbiased training certification program, I think a very quick review of the business case behind it will make it unfavourable. Either the training program will be of low quality and low credibility, or it will attach such high cost to courses that the courses will be harder to sell. Creating certification takes a lot of work, which needs to be resourced. I might be wrong, but I can't see volunteers stepping forward to build a certification program, at least not in the immediate future. Maybe some Governments might step up (as has been done for certifying OGC standards), but I expect governments will have better things to spend money on. The other group who could write a certification program are training organisations themselves. But I don't think these training organisations are likely to make much extra money with a certification in place. And I don't think trainees are likely prepared to pay an extra 30% for their course in order to see a certification stamp. (And that 30% is just to pay for certification development, before OSGeo makes a profit). I'd like to be proven wrong, but I don't think we are ready for OSGeo certification, and I think it is bad business for OSGeo to compete with OSGeo companies by providing training directly. -- Cameron Shorter Geospatial Solutions Manager Tel: +61 (0)2 8570 5050 Mob: +61 (0)419 142 254 Think Globally, Fix Locally Geospatial Solutions enhanced with Open Standards and Open Source http://www.lisasoft.com ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss -- Daniel P. Ames, Ph.D. PE Associate Professor, Geosciences Idaho State University - Idaho Falls dan.a...@isu.edu geology.isu.edu www.mapwindow.org * See you at MapWindow 2011: www.mapwindow.org/conference/2011 * ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[OSGeo-Discuss] Fwd: CUAHSI Senior Software Engineer/Architect
Please see the position announcement below. - Dan Daniel P. Ames Ph.D. Idaho State University Dept. of Geosciences dan.a...@isu.edu Sent from my Droid -- Forwarded message -- From: Conrad Matiuk cmat...@cuahsi.org Date: Apr 6, 2011 9:55 AM Subject: CUAHSI Senior Software Engineer/Architect To: cuahsi-...@listserv.agu.org *Senior Software Engineer/Architect* * * The Consortium of Universities for the Advancement of Hydrologic Science, Inc. (CUAHSI) seeks a senior software engineer/architect to lead the development of data services for the academic water science research community. The Senior Software Engineer/Architect will develop a strategy to transition a standards-based services-oriented architecture for publication and discovery of water data from a research project to an operational service. The research project, CUAHSI Hydrologic Information System (HIS) consists of a central metadata catalog (HydroCatalog), a data publication server stack (HydroServer) and a data access, visualization, and analysis client (HydroDesktop). HIS has been developed in a Microsoft .NET environment and utilizes various commercial packages, including Microsoft SQL Server and ESRI’s ArcGIS Server software. The ideal candidate will have both a background in water science research (in the fields of earth science, engineering, or ecology) and a strong informatics background with understanding of Open Geospatial Consortium (OGC) web service and data encoding standards, web services, and relational data bases. The ideal candidate will possess the leadership and management skills necessary to work in interdisciplinary teams and to manage employees. ** To be considered for this position, candidates must possess a combination of degrees that provide expertise in hydroinformatics with the highest degree being either a PhD, multiple Master’s Degrees or a Master’s Degree with at least 3 years of experience. The degrees may be in computer science, hydrologic science or engineering or a combination of fields.** Please submit your resume—including names, addresses, and contact information for 3 to 5 references—and cover letter to bus...@cuahsi.org. Interviews will begin in May 2011 and continue until a suitable candidate has been found. We have a target hiring date of July 1, 2011. The preferred location for this position is in CUAHSI’s Medford, MA office, but alternate locations will be considered. Additional information about the HIS project can be found at http://his.cuahsi.org. Additional information about CUAHSI is at http://www.cuahsi.org. An expanded version of this listing is available at http://www.cuahsi.org/docs/CUAHSI-SE-PD.pdf. CUAHSI is an equal opportunity/affirmative action employer committed to excellence through diversity. Qualified women and minorities are encouraged to apply. Conrad Matiuk CUAHSI Communications Director 2000 Florida Ave, N.W. Washington, D.C. 20009 email: cmat...@cuahsi.org phone: (202) 731-0122 fax: (202) 777-7308 web: http://www.cuahsi.org ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[OSGeo-Discuss] MapWindow/DotSpatial 2011 - User/Developer Conference
Dear OSGeo Discuss List: The MapWindow project team is pleased to announce that we are hosting an OSGeo DotNet focused conference and workshops June 13-15, 2011 in San Diego, California. There is more information and a call for abstracts on the conference web site: http://www.mapwindow.org/conference/2011/presenters.php http://www.mapwindow.org/conference/2011/presenters.phpThe call for abstracts closes on March 31, so please let me know soon if you are interested in participating. We know that a large portion of our OSGeo community is more comfortable in Linux than in Windows, but there continues to be a growing interest in and demand for programmer tools based on the DotNet environment - and those of us on the OSGeo DotNet side of things don't think that the proprietary vendors should control that market. :) So this event will be centered on the MapWindow project, the new DotSpatial programmer library (think open source ArcObjects) and several other very cool software tools (SharpMap, Whitebox, and others). If you are at all interested in learning more about these projects please consider coming to this event. Sincerely, Dan -- Daniel P. Ames, Ph.D. PE Associate Professor, Geosciences Idaho State University - Idaho Falls amesd...@isu.edu geology.isu.edu www.mapwindow.org ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Ravi OSGeo
Great point Ravi. People continually tell me they like MapWindow for its simple GUI. Interestingly I was also training Vietnamese GIS students last week in Ho Chi Minh City. - Dan On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 8:40 PM, Ravi ravivundava...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi Jeff, was teaching a bunch of young kids open source GIS, for 3 days (CSSTEP / IIRS Dehradun, India) 2 of them from Vietnam. They were so pleased by OpenJUMP that they made me spend a whole morning and after noon (the only day off I had) 'Mineral prognostication', using 'OpenJUMP'. Front ends being easy, and learning curves (a breeze) matter after all, than how much is packed in a OS-GIS software. Cheers Ravi ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss -- Daniel P. Ames, Ph.D. PE Associate Professor, Geosciences Idaho State University - Idaho Falls amesd...@isu.edu geology.isu.edu www.mapwindow.org ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Seeking Articles, Reports, and Volunteers for Volume 9 of the OSGeo Journal
We're certainly interested in test cases, applications, and interesting new developments related to OSGeo projects, but manuscripts about or related to other open source GIS project are also very. - Dan On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 2:19 AM, Ann Hitchcock a.hitchc...@52north.orgwrote: Hi Landon, Is the journal exclusively for OSGeo projects or can other open source software projects contribute? Thanks! Cheers, Ann -- Ann Hitchcock 52°North Initiative for Geospatial Open Source Software GmbH Martin-Luther-King-Weg 24 48155 Muenster, Germany http://52north.org General Managers: Dr. Albert Remke, Dr. Andreas Wytzisk Local Court Muenster HRB 10849 *Von:* discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org [mailto: discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org] *Im Auftrag von *Landon Blake *Gesendet:* Donnerstag, 13. Januar 2011 22:50 *An:* discuss@lists.osgeo.org *Betreff:* [OSGeo-Discuss] Seeking Articles, Reports, and Volunteers for Volume 9 of the OSGeo Journal While Tyler Mitchell is working hard to wrap up the work and publish Volume 8 of the OSGeo Journal, I’ve started work with some of our other volunteers on Volume 9. We hope to publish Volume 9 at the beginning of April. Please let me know if you are interested in contributing an article to Volume 9, or if you can volunteer to help put it together. We need authors, reviewers, editors, and LaTex handlers. As a reminder, you can also submit articles for publication in the peer-review section of the Journal. Volume 9 will also be filling the role of our annual report. So I’ll be asking each OSGeo Project and OSGeo Chapter for a brief report about last year’s activities. We’d like to get all articles and reports for Volume 9 submitted by the end of February so our volunteer team will have time to review and request revisions from the authors. If you want to help or submit material for Volume 9, please e-mail me ( sunburned.surve...@gmail.com) or let us know on the Journal mailing list: http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/newsletter You can find the wiki page for Volume 9 here: http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Journal_Volume_9 Thanks, Landon Blake Project Land Surveyor KSN Incorporated – Civil Engineers and Land Surveyors Mobile: (209) 992-0658 Office: (209) 946-0268 E-Mail: lbl...@ksninc.com *Warning:** *Information provided via electronic media is not guaranteed against defects including translation and transmission errors. If the reader is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this information in error, please notify the sender immediately. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss -- Daniel P. Ames, Ph.D. PE Associate Professor, Geosciences Idaho State University - Idaho Falls amesd...@isu.edu geology.isu.edu www.mapwindow.org ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo Journal Call for Papers for Peer Review/Research Section
Dear Colleagues, As a section editor for the OSGeo Journal, I would like to personally invite you to consider preparing an original manuscript on your research and software development activities for publication in the OSGeo Journal. Preparations are underway for Volume 9 which will be published in April. To be considered for publication in this volume, please submit your brief paper (6-8 pages preferably) using the online journal management system here: http://www.osgeo.org/ojs/index.php/journal. OSGeo Journal is not ISI Indexed, but all papers will be peer reviewed and the journal is published in an open/online format for free. Sincerely, Dan -- Daniel P. Ames, Ph.D. PE Associate Professor, Geosciences Idaho State University - Idaho Falls amesd...@isu.edu geology.isu.edu www.mapwindow.org ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Foss4g sponsorship question
Great question! I'd potentially be an early sponsor too, but need more detail. - Dan On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 1:47 PM, Jeroen Ticheler jeroen.tiche...@geocat.net wrote: Hi FOSS4G organizers, I read there's a discount for early sponsors when committing before 1 january 2011. But there's no document telling us how and how expensive this is... Time is running out :-( http://wiki.osgeo.osuosl.org/wiki/FOSS4G_2011_Sponsor_Page Cheers, Jeroen GeoCat Bridge for ArcGIS allows instant publishing of data and metadata on GeoServer and GeoNetwork. Visit http://geocat.net for details. _ Jeroen Ticheler GeoCat bv Irisstraat 52 7531 CW Enschede Tel: +31 (0)6 81286572 HTTP://GeoCat.net Send from mobile phone.___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss -- Daniel P. Ames, Ph.D. PE Associate Professor, Geosciences Idaho State University - Idaho Falls amesd...@isu.edu geology.isu.edu www.mapwindow.org ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[OSGeo-Discuss] Charter Member Nomination
Hi all, I appreciate being nominated as an OSGeo Charter Member. I've been participating with OSGeo since the 2006 Lausanne conference and am regularly involved in the edu committee and newsletter/journal committee. I've funded sponsorship at Lausanne, Sydney and Capetown and am always giving OSGeo pitches at other conferences I attend. Presently I'm helping lead the OSGeo DotNet programmer community including setting up the OSGeo DotNet mailing list, and helping kick off a new project of OSGeo DotNet programmers called DotSpatial (an API that brings together topology, visualization, data access, etc for the DotNet world). In addition to the DotSpatial project (by the way you can find it at http://dotspatial.codeplex.com) I manage the open source MapWindow project (http://mapwindow.org) which some of you may have heard of. I'd be happy to participate more fully with OSGeo through Charter Membership. (P.S. I'm also organizing the 2011 MapWindow and OSGeo DotNet Conference in San Diego, California in June 2011. Please consider coming!!! See http://www.mapwindow.org/conference/2011/) - Dan -- Daniel P. Ames, Ph.D. PE Associate Professor, Geosciences Idaho State University - Idaho Falls amesd...@isu.edu geology.isu.edu www.mapwindow.org ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[OSGeo-Discuss] Re: Charter Member Nomination
(correction: we gave workshops at Lausanne and did booths and workshops at Sydney and South Africa ;) ) On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 12:22 PM, Daniel Ames dan.a...@isu.edu wrote: Hi all, I appreciate being nominated as an OSGeo Charter Member. I've been participating with OSGeo since the 2006 Lausanne conference and am regularly involved in the edu committee and newsletter/journal committee. I've funded sponsorship at Lausanne, Sydney and Capetown and am always giving OSGeo pitches at other conferences I attend. Presently I'm helping lead the OSGeo DotNet programmer community including setting up the OSGeo DotNet mailing list, and helping kick off a new project of OSGeo DotNet programmers called DotSpatial (an API that brings together topology, visualization, data access, etc for the DotNet world). In addition to the DotSpatial project (by the way you can find it at http://dotspatial.codeplex.com) I manage the open source MapWindow project (http://mapwindow.org) which some of you may have heard of. I'd be happy to participate more fully with OSGeo through Charter Membership. (P.S. I'm also organizing the 2011 MapWindow and OSGeo DotNet Conference in San Diego, California in June 2011. Please consider coming!!! See http://www.mapwindow.org/conference/2011/) - Dan -- Daniel P. Ames, Ph.D. PE Associate Professor, Geosciences Idaho State University - Idaho Falls amesd...@isu.edu geology.isu.edu www.mapwindow.org -- Daniel P. Ames, Ph.D. PE Associate Professor, Geosciences Idaho State University - Idaho Falls amesd...@isu.edu geology.isu.edu www.mapwindow.org ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Charter Member Nomination
Hey that would be great, let's do it! I'll shoot you a P.M. do discuss potential details. - Dan On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 3:21 PM, Alex Mandel tech_...@wildintellect.comwrote: On 11/09/2010 11:22 AM, Daniel Ames wrote: Hi all, I appreciate being nominated as an OSGeo Charter Member. I've been participating with OSGeo since the 2006 Lausanne conference and am regularly involved in the edu committee and newsletter/journal committee. I've funded sponsorship at Lausanne, Sydney and Capetown and am always giving OSGeo pitches at other conferences I attend. Presently I'm helping lead the OSGeo DotNet programmer community including setting up the OSGeo DotNet mailing list, and helping kick off a new project of OSGeo DotNet programmers called DotSpatial (an API that brings together topology, visualization, data access, etc for the DotNet world). In addition to the DotSpatial project (by the way you can find it at http://dotspatial.codeplex.com) I manage the open source MapWindow project (http://mapwindow.org) which some of you may have heard of. I'd be happy to participate more fully with OSGeo through Charter Membership. (P.S. I'm also organizing the 2011 MapWindow and OSGeo DotNet Conference in San Diego, California in June 2011. Please consider coming!!! See http://www.mapwindow.org/conference/2011/) - Dan Dan, We've been discussing doing a General OSGeo West conference in California, what do you think about possible collaboration with the California Chapter? Thanks, Alex ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss -- Daniel P. Ames, Ph.D. PE Associate Professor, Geosciences Idaho State University - Idaho Falls amesd...@isu.edu geology.isu.edu www.mapwindow.org ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Greek Inspire Metadata Editor (gimed)
Coming late to this discussion, I would point out that the FSF article about Mono is based entirely on conjecture. Particularly this statement: Microsoft is probably planning to force all free C# implementations underground some day using software patents I suspect if the OSGeo world were to base all decisions on the threat of potential future patent litigation, we'd pretty much all just have to close shop and go fishing or become used car salesmen instead of writing software... - Dan On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 3:35 PM, Nikos Alexandris nikos.alexand...@felis.uni-freiburg.de wrote: Cameron: Why was gimed developed rather than extending GeoNetwork? Angelos: - When developing for HEMCO project, the time frame was very limited and I estimated that a clean implementation would be faster. - The project's specifications were also requiring C# because other non FOSS API's were involved. I (too) was curious about that Angele (talming about C# and Mono). It is not clear to me, as an end-user, if and what dangerous license implications could rise in the future (reading: http://www.fsf.org/news/dont-depend-on-mono). I hope we will find the time to discuss about this and other issues in the upcoming GeoDataCamp in Athens. Cheers, Nikos ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss -- Daniel P. Ames, Ph.D. PE Associate Professor, Geosciences Idaho State University - Idaho Falls amesd...@isu.edu geology.isu.edu www.mapwindow.org ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] Charter Member Nomination
Thanks :) On Nov 9, 2010 5:16 PM, Michael P. Gerlek m...@lizardtech.com wrote: [disclaimer: I'm the one who nominated Dan] Having admired MapWindow from afar from some time, I had the opportunity to spend a couple days with Dan and his team a few months ago and came away very impressed. Dan is doing a great job in bringing C#/.NET into the OSGeo world via the DotSpatial world, what with bringing a whole library into play and running a conference and yet still pursuing a geo research job. A vote for Dan is a vote for... oh, gosh, I dunno... It's a vote to add a Third Way[1] to the C++ -vs- Java intertribal dialogs? Something like that. [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_Way_%28centrism%29 -mpg From: discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org [mailto: discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org] On Behalf Of Daniel Ames Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2010 11:22 AM To: OSGeo Discussions Subject: [OSGeo-Discuss] Charter Member Nomination Hi all, I appreciate being nominated as an OSGeo Charter Member. I've been participating with OSGeo since the 2006 Lausanne conference and am regularly involved in the edu committee and newsletter/journal committee. I've funded sponsorship at Lausanne, Sydney and Capetown and am always giving OSGeo pitches at other conferences I attend. Presently I'm helping lead the OSGeo DotNet programmer community including setting up the OSGeo DotNet mailing list, and helping kick off a new project of OSGeo DotNet programmers called DotSpatial (an API that brings together topology, visualization, data access, etc for the DotNet world). In addition to the DotSpatial project (by the way you can find it at http://dotspatial.codeplex.com) I manage the open source MapWindow project (http://mapwindow.org) which some of you may have heard of. I'd be happy to participate more fully with OSGeo through Charter Membership. (P.S. I'm also organizing the 2011 MapWindow and OSGeo DotNet Conference in San Diego, California in June 2011. Please consider coming!!! See http://www.mapwindow.org/conference/2011/) - Dan -- Daniel P. Ames, Ph.D. PE Associate Professor, Geosciences Idaho State University - Idaho Falls amesd...@isu.edumailto:amesd...@isu.edu geology.isu.eduhttp://geology.isu.edu www.mapwindow.orghttp://www.mapwindow.org ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] FOSS4G2010: Good, Bad and the Ugly
From the the point of view of someone processing travel through the university travel office, having the swag as part of the registration bill is MUCH better. We can claim reimbursement for registration but not for individual goodies, like a t-shirt. So really, being honest about it, I much prefer to have the swag cost built in. That goes for special tours and dinners as well.. @LausanneFans the Lausanne T-Shirt was the best conference T-shirt I ever got. It's got this unique soft texture that always gets me a snuggle from my sweetheart when I'm wearing it. Maybe all you Europeans have softer shirts than us? - Dan On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 8:31 AM, Ravi ravivundava...@yahoo.com wrote: Though I was not there, but for this discussion, would not have got the feel. Venkatesh, keep it going.. This is a good feed back for future event planners. The 'bad', I found is the best for DOs' and DONTs for the future. Ravi Kumar --- On *Thu, 16/9/10, Paolo Corti pco...@gmail.com* wrote: From: Paolo Corti pco...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] FOSS4G2010: Good, Bad and the Ugly To: OSGeo Discussions discuss@lists.osgeo.org Cc: Jeroen Ticheler jeroen.tiche...@geocat.net Date: Thursday, 16 September, 2010, 6:15 PM On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 12:42 PM, Mateusz Loskot mate...@loskot.nethttp://mc/compose?to=mate...@loskot.net wrote: On 16/09/10 09:13, Jeroen Ticheler wrote: On 15 sep 2010, at 11:38, Venkatesh Raghavan wrote: d) Had to pay for FOSS4G2010 T-Shirt I very much supported this idea of paying for the shirts! How many T-Shirts end up being unused? It makes a lot of sense from an ecological / sustainability point of view to not just give away for free. I second Jeroen's opinion here. The price was 5 EUR per t-shirt making it affordable. Best regards, -- Mateusz Loskot, http://mateusz.loskot.net Charter Member of OSGeo, http://osgeo.org ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://mc/compose?to=disc...@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss In my opinion: no problem to pay, but it would make more sense if it would have been in a better material. I think it could be sold for even more than 10-15 EUR, but the quality should be good ;) As it was written in a previous email, this kind of stuff (t-shirts, bags...) make an impressive marketing when used in social events, so it would make a big difference if the t-shirt life is longer. P -- Paolo Corti GIS Architect and Developer web: http://www.paolocorti.net twitter: @paolo_corti ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://mc/compose?to=disc...@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss -- Daniel P. Ames, Ph.D. PE Associate Professor, Geosciences Idaho State University - Idaho Falls amesd...@isu.edu geology.isu.edu www.mapwindow.org ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] FOSS4G2010: Good, Bad and the Ugly
From the the point of view of someone processing travel through the university travel office, having the swag as part of the registration bill is MUCH better. We can claim reimbursement for registration but not for individual goodies, like a t-shirt. So really, being honest about it, I much prefer to have the swag cost built in. That goes for special tours and dinners as well.. @LausanneFans the Lausanne T-Shirt was the best conference T-shirt I ever got. It's got this unique soft texture that always gets me a snuggle from my sweetheart when I'm wearing it. Maybe all you Europeans have softer shirts than us? - Dan On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 8:31 AM, Ravi ravivundava...@yahoo.com wrote: Though I was not there, but for this discussion, would not have got the feel. Venkatesh, keep it going.. This is a good feed back for future event planners. The 'bad', I found is the best for DOs' and DONTs for the future. Ravi Kumar --- On *Thu, 16/9/10, Paolo Corti pco...@gmail.com* wrote: From: Paolo Corti pco...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] FOSS4G2010: Good, Bad and the Ugly To: OSGeo Discussions discuss@lists.osgeo.org Cc: Jeroen Ticheler jeroen.tiche...@geocat.net Date: Thursday, 16 September, 2010, 6:15 PM On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 12:42 PM, Mateusz Loskot mate...@loskot.nethttp://mc/compose?to=mate...@loskot.net wrote: On 16/09/10 09:13, Jeroen Ticheler wrote: On 15 sep 2010, at 11:38, Venkatesh Raghavan wrote: d) Had to pay for FOSS4G2010 T-Shirt I very much supported this idea of paying for the shirts! How many T-Shirts end up being unused? It makes a lot of sense from an ecological / sustainability point of view to not just give away for free. I second Jeroen's opinion here. The price was 5 EUR per t-shirt making it affordable. Best regards, -- Mateusz Loskot, http://mateusz.loskot.net Charter Member of OSGeo, http://osgeo.org ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://mc/compose?to=disc...@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss In my opinion: no problem to pay, but it would make more sense if it would have been in a better material. I think it could be sold for even more than 10-15 EUR, but the quality should be good ;) As it was written in a previous email, this kind of stuff (t-shirts, bags...) make an impressive marketing when used in social events, so it would make a big difference if the t-shirt life is longer. P -- Paolo Corti GIS Architect and Developer web: http://www.paolocorti.net twitter: @paolo_corti ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://mc/compose?to=disc...@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss -- Daniel P. Ames, Ph.D. PE Associate Professor, Geosciences Idaho State University - Idaho Falls amesd...@isu.edu geology.isu.edu www.mapwindow.org * See you at IEMSS 2010: http://www.iemss.org/iemss2010/ * ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] RE: New and Noteworthy in OS Geospatial?
Hi David. For what it's worth, MapWindow just passed the 300,000 download mark, with 6,000 per month. Also the .NET world has an alternative to ArcObjects now under development called DotSpatial. This project is being developed by a large .NET team on codeplex and is quickly making progress. - Dan On Sep 1, 2010 3:09 PM, Fawcett, David (MPCA) david.fawc...@state.mn.us wrote: Thanks to the few of you who had comments. Really, none of the rest of you want to brag about or promote your OSGEO project?! Come on, any new features, optimizations, data formats, case studies, etc.? David. -Original Message- From: Fawcett, David (MPCA) Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2010 9:54 AM To: OSGeo Discussions Subject: New and Noteworthy in OS Geospatial? I am working on a presentation focused on, What's New and Cool in OpenSource Geospatial for a group of GIS professionals. This group is most familiar with the proprietary ESRI stack, but there is a growing awareness and interest in OpenSource. My goal is to introduce people to cool projects or features, highlighting events and improvements from the past year. I am thinking of categories including software, databases, community, and open data. I would greatly appreciate any ideas that people have on new or noteworthy developments in OpenSource geospatial. Think about new projects, new features, optimizations, events, use cases, etc. Please feel free to email me off-list or just respond to this message. Thank you very much, David Fawcett ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[OSGeo-Discuss] Help authoring tools
Do any of you have a preferred open source help authoring tool? We're looking for something to document our projects on web pages - something better than wiki - and also to download and install with software. Must be cross platform, etc. I'd like to use whatever others are using in the OSGeo community for consistency... - Dan -- Daniel P. Ames, Ph.D. PE Associate Professor, Geosciences Idaho State University - Idaho Falls amesd...@isu.edu geology.isu.edu www.mapwindow.org * See you at IEMSS 2010: http://www.iemss.org/iemss2010/ * ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[OSGeo-Discuss] New list for discussing all things OSGeo + .NET
Dear OSGeo'ers, John Lindsay (University of Guelph) and myself (Dan Ames, Idaho State University) have just set up - with the help of Tyler Mitchell - a new OSGeo mailing list which is thematically based around the .NET and MONO programming frameworks. Please feel free to join us on this list. You can subscribe here: http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/dotnet We are particularly interested in corralling any one who is building or using open source GIS tools using C# or VB.NET so that we can coordinate our activities to the extent possible and help present a fairly unified .NET front to the broader OSGeo community and beyond. Our goals are to: 1) Foster collaboration and discussion amongst open source .NET programmers; 2) Encourage the development of reusable, low level .NET framework-style geospatial libraries; 3) Increase understanding and acceptance of .NET as a viable open source programming environment among the OSGeo community. Thanks, Dan -- Daniel P. Ames, Ph.D. PE Associate Professor, Geosciences Idaho State University - Idaho Falls amesd...@isu.edu geology.isu.edu www.mapwindow.org * See you at IEMSS 2010: http://www.iemss.org/iemss2010/ * ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[OSGeo-Discuss] Learn about Open Source GIS for .NET (MapWindow 2010)
Dear fellow OSGeo'ers, If you are interested in learning about open source GIS for the .NET platform, please consider coming to MapWindow 2010 in Orlando, Florida, 31 March - 2 April, 2010. (http://www.mapwindow.org/conference/2010/) This is the first official meeting of the MapWindow GIS project team since it's release as open source and will include workshops and technical presentations on building applications for Windows using our programming libraries, using our end-user desktop application, and working with a number of third party applications for environmental and water resources modeling built on the MapWindow platform. MapWindow (http://www.mapwindow.org) is an ActiveX and .NET programming library, plug-in development environment, and simple end user desktop GIS primarily for the Windows operating system written in C#, VB.NET and C++, and integrating and exposing to .NET programmers a number of low level OSGeo libraries. The main application receives approximately 6000 downloads per month from around the world and has been downloaded over 270,000 times since being released as open source in 2005. MapWindow It is translated in a dozen or so languages and has a large source code contributor team representing every continent except for Antarctica (sorry...) and there are about 9,000 people on our opt-in mailing list. Please feel free to learn more about the project here: http://www.mapwindow.org/ and also by joining us in Orlando for our 1st International Conference: http://www.mapwindow.org/conference/2010/ - Dan -- Daniel P. Ames, Ph.D. PE Associate Professor, Geosciences Idaho State University - Idaho Falls amesd...@isu.edu geology.isu.edu www.mapwindow.org * See you at MapWindow GIS 2010! Orlando, Florida, USA 31 March - 2 April 2010 http://www.mapwindow.org/conference/2010 Also at: AWRA GIS 2010: http://www.awra.org/meetings/Florida2010/ IEMSS 2010: http://www.iemss.org/iemss2010/ * ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Webinars on OS geo for local governments, schools and nonprofits?
Webinars are a great idea but need someone to host the webinar software... any thoughts on how to do that? We could potentially help out here at ISU with the desktop sharing side of things, but the problem is the audio... - Dan On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 12:50 PM, Charlie Schweik cschw...@pubpol.umass.edu wrote: Dimitris Kotzinos wrote: Dear Charlie, the idea sounds intriguing but we should bear in mind the different requirements of the three actors you mentioned in your e-mail, so it would be difficult to find the one size that fits all. Good point, Dimitris. As someone who teaches but also studies the public sector I agree wholeheartedly. If there was sufficient interest, perhaps we could have a series of these, e.g.: OS Geo technologies for high-school teachers - sub topics here OS Geo technologies for local governments - sub topics here At the same time, seminars on various technologies could, potentially, be somewhat generic. Moreover we need to know a bit more an the needs we will try to cover and finally we need the people who would do the job. As I said the idea is interesting so I would interested in participating. I've had two responses so far from people possibly interested in participating in this. If there are others who might be interested in presenting a topic, let me know. If I get a few more I'll start a wiki page to try and start organizing topics and potential presenters. This may lead then to a conference call for further discussion. Cheers Charlie ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss -- Daniel P. Ames, Ph.D. PE Associate Professor, Geosciences Idaho State University - Idaho Falls amesd...@isu.edu geology.isu.edu www.hydromap.com www.mapwindow.org * See you at MapWindow GIS 2010! Orlando, Florida, USA 31 March - 2 April 2010 http://www.mapwindow.org/conference/2010 Also at: AWRA GIS 2010: http://www.awra.org/meetings/Florida2010/ IEMSS 2010: http://www.iemss.org/iemss2010/ * ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Webinars on OS geo for local governments, schools and nonprofits?
How about a combination of something like open meetings for desktop sharing with Google Voice Chat or Yahoo Chat for the voice? Yes, do keep me in the loop Charlie. I'd be happy to give a webinar and if this goes well we could evlove it into a course for seminar credit here at ISU. - Dan On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 3:19 PM, Dan Putler dan.put...@sauder.ubc.ca wrote: It is always good not to paste the URL twice, so a second shot at Openmeetings: http://code.google.com/p/openmeetings/ On Mon, 2010-02-08 at 14:09 -0800, Dan Putler wrote: Hi Charlie, Something to look at is Openmeetings: http://code.google.com/p/openmeetings/http://code.google.com/p/openmeetings/ I haven't installed it, but have used their demo site. It seems fairly nice. I wanted to allow for screen sharing, and it does that well. Voice volume was a bit of a problem on Linux, but not on Windows, and this may be fixed at this point. I haven't tried video on it at this point. Dan On Mon, 2010-02-08 at 16:56 -0500, Charlie Schweik wrote: Hi Dan, Daniel Ames wrote: Webinars are a great idea but need someone to host the webinar software... any thoughts on how to do that? We could potentially help out here at ISU with the desktop sharing side of things, but the problem is the audio... - Dan Good question, Dan! Webinar technology is not something I know that much about. But I imagine it is solvable (or is that naiive?) If my assumption is correct, let's see if we can get a list of a few webinar topics and people willing to present them, and then if that looks promising we can turn to this question. Can I put you down as a possible person to keep in the loop Dan? Cheers Charlie ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss -- Dan Putler Sauder School of Business University of British Columbia ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss -- Daniel P. Ames, Ph.D. PE Associate Professor, Geosciences Idaho State University - Idaho Falls amesd...@isu.edu geology.isu.edu www.hydromap.com www.mapwindow.org * See you at MapWindow GIS 2010! Orlando, Florida, USA 31 March - 2 April 2010 http://www.mapwindow.org/conference/2010 Also at: AWRA GIS 2010: http://www.awra.org/meetings/Florida2010/ IEMSS 2010: http://www.iemss.org/iemss2010/ * ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[OSGeo-Discuss] Fwd: Late-added workshop for IEMSS 2010 - Software Development Issues and Going Open Source
Dear OSGeo Discuss List, Because many of you are involved in environmental modeling like me, you may be interested in attending iEMSs in Canada next summer (this is a major biannual environmental modeling and software conference). If you are already attending, or if you are considering attending, would you consider submitting a talk in our open source and software development issues workshop? (See below). We're looking for case studies in going open source - related to environmental modeling... Thanks, and Happy New Year! - Dan “S” is for “Software” – Licensing Issues, Shared Code Development, and Why You Should Consider Going Open Source (see this page for details: http://www.iemss.org/iemss2010/page31.html) W14. “S” is for “Software” – Licensing Issues, Shared Code Development, and Why You Should Consider Going Open Source Organisers: Daniel P. Ames, Idaho State University (dpa...@gmail.com) Alex Storey, University of Guelph (a...@devmail.com) Repeat after me: “I [state your name] am not going to get rich writing environmental modeling software.” The sooner you and I and the rest of our community accept this truism, the more quickly we can advance our science by breaking down walls of software secrecy – be they intentionally or unintentionally emplaced – and hence fostering collaborations at all phases of modeling software development, testing, and use. Indeed, a new spirit of software “openness” has sprung forth in some of the least likely of places. To wit: Microsoft now sponsors a fast growing open source software development community portal and has released all of its key development languages as free “express editions” – in part to support the development of open source software. This movement definitely follows the long standing scientific tradition of publishing one’s research methods and findings in the open literature; certainly the release of source code is the most fundamental form of publication in the field of environmental modeling and software. There are many reasons why you may not be participating in the open source movement. For example: discomfort at the thought of other individuals viewing your spaghetti code, lack of a clear understanding of the different licenses available and what they mean, lack of time and energy to manage such an effort, or possibly delusional ideas about the fortune to be made from selling your latest groundwater model optimization code (if this last reason is yours, then be sure to review the opening mantra in this workshop summary). The purpose of this workshop is to address these issues through presentations and discussion of 1) licensing options and implications, 2) shared code development tools and systems, and 3) shared/open source model software development case studies. Participation is sought from individuals with experience and success stories related to this topic. Also, individuals new to open source software development, or who are afraid that one day their code will be sitting in a doorstop (the final resting place of so much good code long since forgotten in an old worn out computer) are also highly encouraged to join this workshop. -- Daniel P. Ames, Ph.D. PE Associate Professor, Geosciences Idaho State University - Idaho Falls amesd...@isu.edu geology.isu.edu www.hydromap.com www.mapwindow.org * See you at MapWindow GIS 2010! Orlando, Florida, USA 31 March - 2 April 2010 http://www.mapwindow.org/conference/2010 Also at: AWRA GIS 2010: http://www.awra.org/meetings/Florida2010/ IEMSS 2010: http://www.iemss.org/iemss2010/ * -- ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Re: Will there be an OSGeo Desktop shootout atFOSS4G 2010?
Hi all, This is a great discussion and I think that we're all generally on the same page. Here's a little more food for thought regarding a desktop shootout: Why compare to ESRI? The answer is because they own the lion's share of the market with one-third of the global market share, and are used by nearly 80 percent of GIS users worldwide from all professions. (at least that's what Wikipedia says...). So if this is true, then that means that 80% of GIS users are asking the question, Why should I use desktop open source XXX instead of ESRI? And the three main sub-questions are: Can I open the same files? Can I make the same maps? Can I do the same analyses? Can I teach the same lessons? So rather than looking inward at ourselves and watching a shoot out between the FOSS solutions (which presumably results with someone lying dead and bleeding on the floor...), it be more productive and better for the cause to look *outward *and do some kind of a comparison that helps those 80% of all GIS users answer the questions above? Something like the MS thesis about GRASS and ArcGIS that was mentioned, but web-based and updated by the various project members. I'd be happy to commit some student resources to this evaluation, particularly if some subcommittee of people could agree on what the tests would entail. - Dan On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 2:01 AM, Miguel Montesinos mmontesi...@prodevelop.es wrote: Hello, I think that a simple comparison to what ArcGIS does is limitating. Several issues arises: - Why compare to ArcGIS 9.3 and not Geomedia, MapInfo,…? - What about features that OS GIS desktops provides not present in ArcGIS 9.3? I’d rather have a comparison among all of them under equal conditions, for instance a feature comparison based on the maximum features all products offer, as well as a perfomance analysis. For this, a common dataset of both file and service based data should be available. In Spain there are “a lot” of public official geodata which could be used as test datasets. I also like very much Paul Ramsey’s approach about what I like and what I don’t made by people belonging to different projects. Regards, - Miguel Montesinos CTO PRODEVELOP, S.L. mmontesinos [at] prodevelop [dot] es www.prodevelop.es Miguel Montesinos *De:* discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org [mailto: discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org] *En nombre de *Daniel Ames *Enviado el:* lunes, 21 de diciembre de 2009 19:25 *Para:* Maxim Dubinin; OSGeo Discussions *Asunto:* Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Re: Will there be an OSGeo Desktop shootout atFOSS4G 2010? Folks, I like the structured comparison approach that Cameron outlined. Also equally (or perhaps more useful) would be to put together a wiki page with goals and benchmarks based on ArcGIS 9.3. And then indicate where the os packages compare. This would provide us with the ability to answer the most important question which is can this do what the proprietary software does. For example, we could post a couple of maps made in AG and then challenge each desktop team to create and upload the same maps. Etc. I have a line shapefile with 200 shapes. We could upload it and have everyone do some timing to show how fast to load,pan, etc on the data. This could also serve as a way for some of the teams to see their own deficiencies and find critical tasks to work on (they could then update their reporting on the wiki and indicate the version number)... - Dan ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss -- Daniel P. Ames, Ph.D. PE Associate Professor, Geosciences Idaho State University - Idaho Falls amesd...@isu.edu geology.isu.edu www.hydromap.com www.mapwindow.org * See you at MapWindow GIS 2010! Orlando, Florida, USA 31 March - 2 April 2010 http://www.mapwindow.org/conference/2010 Also at: FOSS4G 2009: http://2009.foss4g.org/ AWRA GIS 2010: http://www.awra.org/meetings/Florida2010/ IEMSS 2010: http://www.iemss.org/iemss2010/ * ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Re: Will there be an OSGeo Desktop shootout atFOSS4G 2010?
Helena, perhaps we should move this discussion to the EDU list, since this side by side comparison you have done could be expanded to include multiple desktop applications and would be fantastic to have as an educational tool. Perhaps we can copy your exercises on a WIKI page and then encourage other teams to post solutions using other desktop apps where they can? Then we'd all have this as a resource to use in classes... - Dan On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 2:20 PM, Helena Mitasova hmit...@unity.ncsu.eduwrote: I have numerous examples of gis tasks done side-by-side in GRASS and ArcGIS here: http://courses.ncsu.edu/mea582/lec/001/GIS_anal_assign/GIS_Anal_Assignall.html The data for the examples are available as GRASS data location and ArcGIS geodatabase (links on top of the document) as well as in shape and ArcGRID format (I could not get all rasters convert correctly to GeoTIFF at the time I was preparing the data) here http://www.grassbook.org/data_menu3rd.php It certainly does not cover everything (especially vector data and database examples are very limited) but there is plenty to show various aspects of GIS from simple display and visualization to complex analysis. It would be interesting to see some of these examples done in other systems - we tried QGIS but that ended up using GRASS plugin too much, so other more independent software would be more interesting. I will be updating the material in next few months to capture the latest developments and plan to add another course with examples in different software packages in fall. I am sure there will be a lot of interest here to see how at least some of the tasks are executed in MapWindows of gvSIG and also extension of this material to cover more vector / database and image processing material. Feel free to use the data, the examples are various modifications of the examples from the GRASbook, Helena Helena Mitasova Associate Professor Department of Marine, Earth and Atmospheric Sciences North Carolina State University 1125 Jordan Hall NCSU Box 8208 Raleigh, NC 27695-8208 http://skagit.meas.ncsu.edu/~helena/ email: hmit...@unity.ncsu.edu ph: 919-513-1327 (no voicemail) fax 919 515-7802 On Dec 22, 2009, at 3:19 PM, Stefan Steiniger wrote: Hei Dan, thanks for the thoughts - I like them too and thats what I see too.. we need not only to bring up the highlights between FOSGIS but even more to convince people to eventually have a look on FOSGIS by comparing it to ESRIs desktop software, since they have set a bit the standards (at least for teaching higher level geography GIS courses). But two notes: I doubte that ESRI has 80% because this would mean the utility market is not considered. And I think one talks here more about ESRI in a gegraphical analysis perspective. While I am not sure what the average GIS user actually does (i.e. How many do queries, do editing, do real analysis?). I like your subquestions - and allow me to add comments :) And the three main sub-questions are: Can I open the same files? well.. on the c-tribe side yes thanks to Gdal/OGR? But i would restrict to core file types (shp, dxf, mif, raster stuff) Can I make the same maps? uuhmmm - not yet, but...? Can I do the same analyses? With Sextante probably yes, now. Can I teach the same lessons? Ahh.. that hits a point. As we need to tell students about this open source stuff. I actually plan to check out the next days if I can replace some arcgis analysis tools with sextante for a course. So maybe we check what is taugth in the GIS core curriculum? Something like the MS thesis about GRASS and ArcGIS that was mentioned, but web-based and updated by the various project members. Sounds good and its great if you would have even student resources. I actually tried to do such comparison already in my second publication on GIS in landscape ecology and in my last talks - my result was: Most of the FOS desktop GIS are on the ArcView level and a bit beyond, but we can not compete with ArcInfo (leave a side the need for an easy map making tool - not sure how good the last QGIS tool is). So by now I see our chance in providing specialist tools for target groups that are either too small for ESRI, Pitney Bowes Intergraph Co to be ever included in their official distribution or that may be to expensive to be bought as extension for some (I remember a friend who once needed Maplex for labeling but not the rest of ArcGIS ArcInfo analysis features). And we would need to highlight which whose things are. here a link to that pub: http://www.geo.uzh.ch/~sstein/finalpub/steiniger_geographic_information_tools_ecoinf2009.pdf stefan ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Re: Will there be an OSGeo Desktop shootout atFOSS4G 2010?
Folks, I like the structured comparison approach that Cameron outlined. Also equally (or perhaps more useful) would be to put together a wiki page with goals and benchmarks based on ArcGIS 9.3. And then indicate where the os packages compare. This would provide us with the ability to answer the most important question which is can this do what the proprietary software does. For example, we could post a couple of maps made in AG and then challenge each desktop team to create and upload the same maps. Etc. I have a line shapefile with 200 shapes. We could upload it and have everyone do some timing to show how fast to load,pan, etc on the data. This could also serve as a way for some of the teams to see their own deficiencies and find critical tasks to work on (they could then update their reporting on the wiki and indicate the version number)... - Dan On Dec 20, 2009 4:40 PM, Maxim Dubinin s...@gis-lab.info wrote: Simon, I was merely suggesting an approach. As I said, we didn't have a goal to inform other what Desktop GIS is the best, we just wanted to present a model dataset for many different packages, so that a person can try and choose by himself. However, there are some notes for each package at the bottom of the page. Personally, I have a favorite, of course, but I don't think this is appropriate to describe it here. That said, I think this will be relatively easy to construct a matrix based on our experience with missing bits for this particular task. We're currently going through updating software and this project and will discuss this among participants. Maxim *Вы писали 20 декабря 2009 г., 16:52:06: * Maxim, I looked at the webpage but could not find an outcome -- which system worked the best? Chee... Sometime ago, we were also interested in why are there so many desktop open GIS packages. So what w... ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] FOSS4G-2009-Tokyo/Osaka promotion video
Fascinating! I had no idea that there were two FOSS4G 2009 conferences this year... - Dan On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 1:39 AM, Venkatesh Raghavan ragha...@media.osaka-cu.ac.jp wrote: Hi All, FOSS4G-2009-Tokyo/Osaka promotion video is available on Youtube at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qF6_noLvmsw Enjoy!! Cheers!! Venka ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss -- Daniel P. Ames, Ph.D. PE Associate Professor, Geosciences Idaho State University - Idaho Falls amesd...@isu.edu geology.isu.edu www.hydromap.com www.mapwindow.org * See you at MapWindow GIS 2010! Orlando, Florida, USA 31 March - 2 April 2010 http://www.mapwindow.org/conference/2010 Also at: FOSS4G 2009: http://2009.foss4g.org/ AWRA GIS 2010: http://www.awra.org/meetings/Florida2010/ IEMSS 2010: http://www.iemss.org/iemss2010/ * ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Mind Map - Open Source Spatial Projects
Hi Bruce, This is great work... I'm imagining this in an 8 foot tall poster at the FOSS4G conference! It would be great if you could add in the MapWindow project. MapWindow GIS Desktop Application is a C#/.NET desktop GIS that is completely open source and has about 6000 downloads per month from www.MapWindow.org. Also, under your library/developer tools, we the project also includes a set of .NET libraries and a COM C++ ActiveX component based on both NTS and GDAL. - Dan On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 6:04 PM, Bruce Bannerman bruce.bannerman.os...@gmail.com wrote: I have been developing a Mind Map for a number of years, showing various Open Source spatial projects, with a summary of project features and links to project urls. It should help as an aide-memoire for Open Source spatial projects. I've released this under a Creative Commons license with the source in the OSGeo subversion repository. Details are at: http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/User:Bruce.bannerman The information in the mind map is a little dated. Perhaps a few of us can collaborate to maintain it. Thanks to Tyler for his help in getting this into subversion. Bruce Bannerman ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss -- Daniel P. Ames, Ph.D. PE Associate Professor, Geosciences Idaho State University - Idaho Falls amesd...@isu.edu geology.isu.edu www.hydromap.com www.mapwindow.org * See you at MapWindow GIS 2010! Orlando, Florida, USA 31 March - 2 April 2010 http://www.mapwindow.org/conference/2010 Also at: FOSS4G 2009: http://2009.foss4g.org/ AWRA GIS 2010: http://www.awra.org/meetings/Florida2010/ IEMSS 2010: http://www.iemss.org/iemss2010/ * ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[OSGeo-Discuss] Please Share: AWRA Announces Call for Abstracts for GIS in Water Resources Conference
(With apologies for cross posting... Please see the below announcement for the biannual GIS in Water Resources conference of the American Water Resources Association in March 2010 in Orlando Florida. This conference has had a growing representation of projects from the OPEN SOURCE GIS world and it would be awesome to see that continue! - Dan Ames) * ***AWRA Announces Call for Abstracts for Spring 2010 * *Conference on GIS in Water Resources* Contact: Terry Meyer, AWRA Marketing (540) 687-8390 or *te...@awra.org* te...@awra.org The American Water Resources Association’s (AWRA) upcoming specialty conference on *GIS in Water Resources*http://www.awra.org/meetings/Florida2010/is accepting abstracts through October 9, 2009. The conference will take place March 29-31, 2010 at the Rosen Shingle Creek Hotel in Orlando, FL. Recognizing that Geographic Information Systems (GIS) have become a fundamental tool for the analysis, planning, and management of environmental and water resources systems, AWRA launched a series of biennial conferences on this increasingly important topic for water resources professionals. The spring 2010 conference will be the sixth in this series. AWRA’s GIS conferences have seen both the breadth and depth of GIS application areas in water resources and the variety of GIS software tools to support such efforts expand dramatically in recent years. This sixth specialty conference will include presentations and topics on a number of exciting new developments and research findings at the intersection of GIS and water resources engineering and sciences. Researchers, practitioners, and students working in this field are encourage d to submit and abstract and plan to attend, keeping in mind that GIS includes commercial or open source software, custom geospatial modeling solutions, virtual worlds, web-based mapping, and more. Visit the conference website for information about the conference or to submit your abstract: *http://www.awra.org/meetings/Florida2010/*http://www.awra.org/meetings/Florida2010/. The Conference Program Committee encourages abstracts on a wide-ranging menu of GIS topics. The complete list of topics can be accessed here: * http://www.awra.org/meetings/Florida2010/topics.html*http://www.awra.org/meetings/Florida2010/topics.html. The deadline for submission of abstracts is October 9, 2009. 2010 AWRA Spring Specialty Conference GIS in Water Resources VI *http://www.awra.org/meetings/Florida2010*http://www.awra.org/meetings/Florida2010 Rosen Shingle Creek Hotel | Orlando, FL March 29-31, 2010 AWRA is the premier non-governmental organization dedicated to the advancement of multidisciplinary water resources management and research. For over 40 years, AWRA has provided a forum for water resources conservation and networking. AWRA has members in every state and in over 50 nations. More information at: *http://www.awra.org* http://www.awra.org. ### Terry Meyer AWRA PO Box 1626 Middleburg, VA 20118-1626 O: 540.687.8390 F: 540.687.8395 E: ***te...@awra.org* te...@awra.org W: ***www.awra.org* http://www.awra.org !DSPAM:218,4a8db90b38619366110416! ___ GIS2010 mailing list gis2...@lists.awra.org http://lists.awra.org/listinfo/gis2010 -- Daniel P. Ames, Ph.D. PE Associate Professor, Geosciences Idaho State University - Idaho Falls amesd...@isu.edu www.hydromap.com www.mapwindow.org ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] GIS_Libraries
Nenad, The OSGeo projects use a variety of licenses. You'll see LGPL, MPL, GPL, MIT, and others. If you are developing commercial tools, you'll need to avoid GPL (someone correct me if I'm wrong.) Also take into consideration development platform/language. My group (MapWindow project) has a number of people using our GIS SDK for commercial applications in the .NET platform. MapWindow is licensed under MPL 1.1 which supports commercial usage. Dan On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 7:07 AM, Nenad Milasinovic nenad.milasino...@zesium.com wrote: Hello, I am interested is there any reliable open source, LGPL licensed GIS SDK or library suited for building commercial, platform independent GIS application on top of it. I am also interested for commercial solutions but only as SDK or library. I will appreciate any help. Best regards. -- Nenad Milasinovic Software Development and Testing --- ZESIUM mobile d.o.o. Valentina Vodnika 8/9 21000 Novi Sad Serbia Tel: +381 (0)21 472 15 48 Fax: +381 (0)21 472 15 49 Mob: +381 (0)61 231 41 20 E-mail: nenad.milasino...@zesium.com ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] GIS_Libraries
IANAL either, but I do read wikipedia. So by way of clarification... Everything I've read makes a clear distinction between GPL and LGPL such that GPL code can not be embedded in or linked to a closed source application. Period. Whereas L-GPL licensed code can be linked to a closed source application. See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_Lesser_General_Public_License So if the individual wants to link to GPL licensed code/libraries and is willing to make his code GPL then fine. He can still run a commercial business based on this code, as many people do. But if he wants to keep his code under some closed-source license then he can not link to or embed any GPL licensed code or library. - Dan On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 10:24 AM, P Kishor punk.k...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 11:06 AM, Daniel Ames amesd...@isu.edu wrote: Nenad, The OSGeo projects use a variety of licenses. You'll see LGPL, MPL, GPL, MIT, and others. If you are developing commercial tools, you'll need to avoid GPL (someone correct me if I'm wrong.) Disclaimer: IANAL. Get legal advice from your lawyer before embarking on your million dollar enterprise. I'll correct you, because, as stated above, you are misrepresenting at best, and wrong at worst. ;-) GPL does not prevent you from making money. GPL only requires that if you modify the code that is under GPL, then you must redistribute the modified code under GPL. Granted this may not be easy to figure out in real world scenarios, but consider the following -- Let's say ShapeLib is published under GPL (I don't know whether or not it is; this is only for illustration purpose). Let's say, MapServer utilizes ShapeLib, but doesn't modify ShapeLib, but uses ShapeLib as is. Let's say, MapServer's creator decides to make millions off of MapServer, Inc. He is under no obligation to release the source code of MapServer, but he is obligated to release the source code of ShapeLib, which is no big deal, because the source code of ShapeLib is already available to anyone. On the other hand, let's say, ShapeLib is modified to perform better, or differently, for MapServer. Now, there is an obligation to release the source code to the modified version of ShapeLib no matter what the value of that value-added might be. That is what the GPL obligates. MapServer itself is still governed by whatever license that its creator decides to apply. Also take into consideration development platform/language. My group (MapWindow project) has a number of people using our GIS SDK for commercial applications in the .NET platform. MapWindow is licensed under MPL 1.1 which supports commercial usage. Dan On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 7:07 AM, Nenad Milasinovic nenad.milasino...@zesium.com wrote: Hello, I am interested is there any reliable open source, LGPL licensed GIS SDK or library suited for building commercial, platform independent GIS application on top of it. I am also interested for commercial solutions but only as SDK or library. I will appreciate any help. Best regards. -- Nenad Milasinovic Software Development and Testing --- ZESIUM mobile d.o.o. Valentina Vodnika 8/9 21000 Novi Sad Serbia Tel: +381 (0)21 472 15 48 Fax: +381 (0)21 472 15 49 Mob: +381 (0)61 231 41 20 E-mail: nenad.milasino...@zesium.com ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss -- Puneet Kishor http://www.punkish.org/ Carbon Model http://carbonmodel.org/ Charter Member, Open Source Geospatial Foundation http://www.osgeo.org/ Science Commons Fellow, Geospatial Data http://sciencecommons.org Nelson Institute, UW-Madison http://www.nelson.wisc.edu/ --- collaborate, communicate, compete === Sent from Madison, WI, United States ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Call for Software demos -OSGIS 2009
Suchith, I'm writing to let you know that (although I haven't been in contact!) I'm still planning to come to the conference on June 22 and do the MapWindow workshop. Have you got a schedule together yet for this? I wonder if I should give a short talk too during one of the paper sessions? What are your thoughts? Also what help do you need with the conference? - Dan On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 8:50 AM, Suchith Anand suchith.an...@nottingham.ac.uk wrote: Dear colleagues, We are inviting contributions for software demonstrations of open source GIS technologies from interested people and organizations for OSGIS 2009. Interested participants should submit an abstract description of the Open source software demos (maximum 500 words) to suchith.an...@nottingham.ac.uk before 30 March 2009. Details and registrations information at http://www.opensourcegis.org.uk/ The OSGIS UK 2009 software demos will be presented at an separate session to the conference audience. Please contact me for any information needed. Best wishes, Suchith Anand Dr Suchith Anand Centre for Geospatial Science Sir Clive Granger Building University of Nottingham Tel: (0)115 846 8408 url: http://www.nottingham.ac.uk/cgs/cgs_suchith_anand.html This message has been checked for viruses but the contents of an attachment may still contain software viruses, which could damage your computer system: you are advised to perform your own checks. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored as permitted by UK legislation. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Can we use a LiveDVD for workshops and labs at FOSS4G 2009?
projects that are Windows based to gain exposure (like MapWindow, which almost certainly increased its user base as a result of a strong conference presence). Very true. We actually got a conference spike in downloads and also in the number of *.za people on our mailing lists. I'm a believer in conferences. Thanks for all your work on the last one, Graeme - Dan ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] some post-FOSS4G thoughts
Another consideration: my students who attended last week said that the mix of GISSA with FOSS4g was EXCELLENT. The really liked having the business GIS users/non-FOSS people there. In fact, doing a joint conference like this gave the FOSS folks lots of great proselytizing opportunities that they wouldn't otherwise have. So that was a GREAT idea the South Africa group had. Good job. One more thing... We should be careful talking about having conferences closer. Come on folks, as geo-people you all know that closer is relative to your datum... There is a huge growing GIS interest in China right now. Wouldn't it be cool to have FOSS4g there one year? So a public Thanks to the SA organizers, and a Good luck! to the Aussies... and as for 2010? Anyone interested in Beijing? How about Idaho? :) - Dan On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 8:42 AM, Gavin Fleming [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This thread has been doing the rounds on the conference_dev list as well Some of my thoughts in the aftermath of FOSS4G 2008. I have heard very positive feedback from all quarters. As Arnulf alluded to in the AGM, I believe the decision to host in an 'untested' location WORKED. The mix of FOSS and proprietary worlds WORKED. The mix of the full-spectrum ecosystem from geek to user to academic to businessperson to government official WORKED. It WORKED on so many levels we'll be seeing positive spin-offs for years to come. Business people loved meeting developers and picking up the sense of community. Developers loved being with other developers and interacting with users and funders. And we did manage a code sprint of around 40 people. http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/FOSS4G2008_CodeSprint Cost: -Registration was well within the limits set by OSGeo of $600. It was NOT the deciding factor for most people. Academics and students got 50% discount, but these were a minority. -Travel was THE deciding factor. -Accommodation: yes, 'official' hotels where our agents got block bookings were not exactly budget prices (global tourist destination in high season) but we advertised and listed many links for organising one's own cheap accommodation from backpackers to BBs. So that should not have been a factor. -with more sponsorship we would have loved to support those who could not afford it. Luckily many who asked made a plan of their own. By its nature, a moving conference will be expensive to get to from many places. But it will be cheap and accessible to regional attendees and that's the point. That's part of OSGeo's mission. The value of bringing FOSS4G to South Africa (or Sydney or other future global venues) far outweighs the 'cost' to a few who could not make it. Sydney will be in the same boat next year - far from almost everywhere. But they're already focussing on Australia/NZ and Southeast Asia. And a core contingent of OSGeo techies WILL make it to FOSS4G each year. And there you have the magic mix. So, from me: -keep FOSS4G roaming the globe annually -stimulate and support local or regional events whenever and wherever they emerge -keep the FOSS4G mix as it is - don't split along a perceived technical-business divide. -put out RFPs even earlier to allow time to secure cheap venues, big sponsorships, optimal scheduling, etc. A case in point is http://www.igarss09.org/ where the conference was awarded years back enabling the hosting of thousands at a cheap venue (university). Gavin Fleming This message is intended for the addressee only. Information and attachments in this e-mail may contain confidential, proprietary, or legally privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, or responsible for delivery of the message to the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution, or any action taken is prohibited and may be unlawful, and could result in a claim against you. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss -- Daniel P. Ames PhD, PE Department of Geosciences Idaho State University - Idaho Falls [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.MapWindow.org www.Hydromap.com ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Newbie Question? Any feature for classification?
Saka, Feel free to browse the MapWindow forums here: www.mapwindow.org/phorum and possibly post your question there. We have a very large .NET open source GIS developer community there who may be able to help. Dan On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 4:33 AM, Saka Royban [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all. I'm new to this mailing list. I want to write a program in .NET environment and i need some classes to do feature classification. I mean getting a point shape file, classifying it based on a Z value and convert it to raster.(some kind of Interpolation) Anyone knows anything open source to do this? Thanks in advance. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss -- Daniel P. Ames, PhD, PE Geospatial Software Lab Department of Geosciences Idaho State University - Idaho Falls [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.hydromap.com ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo Buttons
Arnulf, Thanks for the clarification on the logos. I was hoping to prompt this topic thread with my posting. Also useful would be some guidelines on how and where OSGeo logos can be used on other web pages, particularly in light of the self selection/opt in membership approach. Are all members (i.e. anyone who registers on osgeo.org) allowed to use the OSGeo logo on their project/personal/corporate web pages to help identify their interest in OSGeo? Should the logo be linked to a particular page on osgeo.org? Should the original logo be used or some modification of it? Thanks, Dan On Sat, Mar 1, 2008 at 4:10 AM, Arnulf Christl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, March 1, 2008 01:40, Daniel Ames wrote: Tyler et al, I just ran across this previous post about specialized OSGeo logos for members, supporters, etc. to place on their respective web sites. Not sure if there is still such a need, but here is an attempt: http://www.hydromap.com/download/OSGeoMemberLogos.zip Dan Hi, these logos must have slipped my attention. We should not circulate them any further to maintain a clean brand. Current OSGeo policy does not differentiate outside recognition of members and charter members so that we do not have a need for separate logos. Charter members are only required internally for votes into the board of directors. It has been discussed that the OSGeo logo should be available with an additional tag line Sponsor. It seems that the need to differentiate between graduated and incubating projects is not seen as that important. Jeroen will send a new set of logos around anytime soon. We should discuss them at the next meeting. Best regards, Arnulf. On Wed, Oct 17, 2007 at 10:42 AM, Tyler Mitchell (OSGeo) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 17-Oct-07, at 2:53 AM, Mateusz Loskot wrote: Hi, Do we have anything like official OSGeo banners or buttons members can put on their website? Not really, but we do have need for a few different variations of them. They can built on top of the OSGeo logos (http://osgeo.org/logos) Specifically I've been wanting to have ones for: * Member * Charter Member * Supporter * Sponsor and probably some more... Any volunteers to do up some prototype buttons or badge graphics? :) Tyler ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss -- Daniel P. Ames, PhD, PE Geospatial Software lab Department of Geosciences Idaho State University - Idaho Falls [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.hydromap.com ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss -- Arnulf Christl http://www.wheregroup.com ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss -- Daniel P. Ames, PhD, PE Geospatial Software lab Department of Geosciences Idaho State University - Idaho Falls [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.hydromap.com ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo Buttons
Tyler et al, I just ran across this previous post about specialized OSGeo logos for members, supporters, etc. to place on their respective web sites. Not sure if there is still such a need, but here is an attempt: http://www.hydromap.com/download/OSGeoMemberLogos.zip Dan On Wed, Oct 17, 2007 at 10:42 AM, Tyler Mitchell (OSGeo) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 17-Oct-07, at 2:53 AM, Mateusz Loskot wrote: Hi, Do we have anything like official OSGeo banners or buttons members can put on their website? Not really, but we do have need for a few different variations of them. They can built on top of the OSGeo logos (http://osgeo.org/logos) Specifically I've been wanting to have ones for: * Member * Charter Member * Supporter * Sponsor and probably some more... Any volunteers to do up some prototype buttons or badge graphics? :) Tyler ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss -- Daniel P. Ames, PhD, PE Geospatial Software lab Department of Geosciences Idaho State University - Idaho Falls [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.hydromap.com ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Case studies for migrating to Geospatial FOSS?
Cameron, What type of a document are you looking for? In other words how much detail and what focus? We might be able to find something that exists with respect to this EPA effort, or we could perhaps put it together. Dan On Jan 29, 2008 1:10 PM, Cameron Shorter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dr Dan Ames, Gary suggested that you might be able to provide a case study or similar into the EPA's migration from ESRI to Open Source. Specifically I have some Australian Government Agencies who would be interested to use such work, and in general, such case studies would be very beneficial for the uptake of Open Source globally. Gary Watry wrote: Contact Dr. Dan Ames at Idaho State University [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Cameron Shorter Date: Monday, January 28, 2008 22:11 Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Case studies for migrating to Geospatial FOSS? To: OSGeo Discussions Yes Gary, that would be great. Do you know where we can find information about this? On Jan 29, 2008 2:07 PM, Gary Watry wrote: Would the U.S. EPA moving from ESRI to Open Source for their Watershed model help - Original Message - From: Cameron Shorter Date: Monday, January 28, 2008 21:39 Subject: [OSGeo-Discuss] Case studies for migrating to Geospatial FOSS? To: OSGeo Discussions After giving a presentation recently about Geospatial Open Source, we were asked whether there have been any case studies on migration to Geospatial Open Source. The audience were very sympathetic to Open Source, but felt is would be much easier to sell to upper management if they could draw upon experiences of other agencies who have done something similar. Can anyone point me to reports, or programs which have migrated from ESRI/Oracle applications (ArcGIS in particular) to Open Source equivalents? -- Cameron Shorter Geospatial Systems Architect Tel: +61 (0)2 8570 5050 Mob: +61 (0)419 142 254 Think Globally, Fix Locally Commercial Support for Geospatial Open Source Solutions http://www.lisasoft.com/LISAsoft/SupportedProducts.html ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss Gary Watry Applications Developer/Designer Florida State University Office of Telecommunications 644 West Call Street Tallahassee, Fl 32306 Phone: 645-6904 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss -- Cameron Shorter Geospatial Systems Architect Tel: +61 (0)2 8570 5050 Mob: +61 (0)419 142 254 Think Globally, Fix Locally Commercial Support for Geospatial Open Source Solutions http://www.lisasoft.com/LISAsoft/SupportedProducts.html ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss Gary Watry Applications Developer/Designer Florida State University Office of Telecommunications 644 West Call Street Tallahassee, Fl 32306 Phone: 645-6904 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss -- Cameron Shorter Geospatial Systems Architect Tel: +61 (0)2 8570 5050 Mob: +61 (0)419 142 254 Think Globally, Fix Locally Commercial Support for Geospatial Open Source Solutions http://www.lisasoft.com/LISAsoft/SupportedProducts.html -- Daniel P. Ames, PhD, PE Geospatial Software lab Department of Geosciences Idaho State University - Idaho Falls [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.hydromap.com ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo Journal Now Available
This may be a good time to mention a thread that Tyler and I discussed a month ago with respect to the OSGeo Journal. I suggested that we explore the option of having 2-4 peer reviewed science type journal articles in future editions in addition to the project updates and other types of articles, and I volunteered to help coordinate the peer-review process. I'd be interested to know what others think of this. Would anyone else find it useful to have a FOSS4G oriented peer-reviewed journal article outlet? Anyone else to volunteer for a peer review process? (Tyler are you still interested in this idea?) - Dan On 5/16/07, Paulo Marcondes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2007/5/16, Tyler Mitchell (OSGeo) [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On 15-May-07, at 1:06 PM, Helton Uchoa wrote: Is there any information about permission for publish in another language? Good question. Before I tackle the republishing rights question, I'd like to know if there are any others out there who are hoping to translate some/all of the Journal? I think I can work together with Helton in the Portuguese translation. -- Paulo Marcondes = PU1/PU2PIX -22.915 -42.224 = GG86jc Debian GNU/Linux = http://rj.debianbrasil.org = http://www.debian.org http://www.kombato.org - Seja seu próprio guarda-costas -- Daniel P. Ames, PhD, PE Dept of Geosciences Idaho State University [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.hydromap.com ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo Journal articles and preparation
Tyler, We've just finished a research paper that reviews the OGC Web Processing Service protocol and provides some suggested improvements and an example implementation. Is the OSGeo Journal ready for this type of entry? - Dan On 3/26/07, Tyler Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Contributors to the upcoming release of the OSGeo Journal (formerly called the Newsletter) have been hard at work and we starting to wrap up draft versions. This is the last call for any news tidbits, event summaries or developer announcements about open source software projects. Drop me a note or add your content to: http://wiki.osgeo.org/index.php/Newsletter_Volume_1 and we'll be in touch. Deadline for all submissions is the end of the month. If you want to plan ahead, you are welcome to add yourself to the list of contributors for the next volume: http://wiki.osgeo.org/index.php/Newsletter_Volume_2 Of particular interest are interviews and case studies. Dates for next volume have not been set. Tyler ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Re: FOSS4G 2007 Workshop Submission
Paul and others, I too was disappointed to be in the 22 of 34 workshop proposals that were turned down and would like to suggest that the conference organizers re-think the approach to include more workshops. At FOSS4g2006, I found the workshops to be perhaps the most useful element of the conference. For a highly technical meeting, the value of a 1.5 to 3 hour hands-on workshop versus a 20 minute pre-canned powerpoint presentation can not be overstated. Our project (and I suspect many others) has tried to embrace the concept of the FOSS4g venue as an alternative to hosting our own separate conference. Certainly this concept was encouraged by last year's conference organizers. However for this to work there needs to be the opportunity to present our workshops. May I suggest the following two changes: 1) Reallocate time for more workshops. 2) Let the registrants decide which workshops stay. In other words, post a list of 34 workshops and keep only those that meet a minimum number of committed/paid attendee registration fees. I suspect that every one of the 22 rejected workshop proposers could argue that they easily meet all of the four criteria listed here: http://wiki.osgeo.org/index.php/FOSS4G2007_Workshops#Criteria_used_by_the_workshop_committee_to_review_workshop_submissions Hence letting the broader community vote with their registration dollars would seem to be a more free and open approach. It would be unfortunate to see this as the beginning of a general culling process where instead of trying to attract new projects, the FOSS4g community begins to become more exclusionary. Dan Daniel P. Ames, PhD, PE Idaho State University Geospatial Software Lab On 3/29/07, Paul Ramsey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jeroen, I appreciate your frustration, and I know it is shared by many others, as only 12 of the 34 3-hour workshop submissions could be hosted. The criteria the workshop committee used in their evaluation are here: http://wiki.osgeo.org/index.php/ FOSS4G2007_Workshops#Criteria_used_by_the_workshop_committee_to_review_w orkshop_submissions All the committee members ranked the submissions on those criteria and the rankings were averaged. Two workshops in the top 12 that were topic duplicates were removed and the next-lowest-ranked non- duplicates were moved up. It appears that being on the committee is no guarantee of satisfaction with the final result. The average of a bunch of lists people want is a list that no one is 100% happy with. Paul On 28-Mar-07, at 10:36 PM, Jeroen Ticheler wrote: Dear people, Thank you for your information. I have to say I find that pretty frustrating and annoying knowing that GeoNetwork opensource is one of the incubator projects of OSGEO, the number of OSGEO projects is (still) limited and FOSS4G is the OSGEO conference. Participating with the project in OSGEO has multiple reasons, one of them being that it provides opportunities to work on synergies and work on marketing the OSGEO software stack. Now how does the intent of OSGEOs mission fit with refusing a (single) workshop on one of its projects. Maybe I miss something, but I'd assumed there was at least some kind of a relation!? Looking forward to some good feedback and discussion on this, also on the OSGEO mailing list as I consider that discussion very relevant in the further development of outreach strategies for ourselves and the OSGEO foundation through conferences. Core question: Should OSGEO projects have guaranteed workshop and presentation space for at least one session? Regards, Jeroen On Mar 28, 2007, at 5:58 PM, FOSS4G 2007 wrote: Dear Jeroen Ticheler, We regret to inform you that we will not be able to accept your Half Day workshop, Using the GeoNetwork opensource Spatial Data Catalog, for the FOSS4G 2007 program. We had a very large number of submissions this year, and have been able to accept less than half of them . We hope you will consider bringing some of your ideas to the conference in the form of a presentation. The Call for Presentations is currently open, and there is room for 120 presentations at the conference this year . http://www.foss4g2007.org/presentations Yours, The FOSS4G 2007 Conference Committee ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Re: FOSS4G 2007 Workshop Submission
Jody and others, Thanks for all of the interesting discussion. I must admit it's hard to be too critical of the conference committe having not volunteered to participate on it (maybe next time?). So thank you to all who are working on this. I also understand that any kind of review process is challenging and will have detractors. To answer your question, yes. The MapWindow community is fully behind the development focused workshops since 80% of our active users are developers using our libraries. How many of them are coming to Victoria, I don't know. I told Paul that we have so far had about 200 click throughs on our FOSS4G 2007 logo on the MapWindow.org home page, so the presumption is that some of these folks will attend, tell their friends, and so forth. Maybe some of Franks suggestions could be considered. If not this time, then perhaps next year? Again thanks to those of you who volunteer so much time to give open source geospatial software a fighting chance. Dan On 3/29/07, Jody Garnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Correction :-) Hi Daniel - I agree that workshops are the most valued part of the conference; I was a bit sad personally to do some more developer focused workshops (but looking at the target audience for the conference I did not expect any such applications to be successful). I was sad *not* to do some developer focused workshops. I am a developer and frankly I need more developers on the different open source projects I am involved with. I would like nothing more then to set up a workshop to inspire and involve new contributors in lots of 40. My impression is that conference attendees are looking forward to using the completed products ;-) Either as part of mash up or in a SDI Architecture Slot (two very large extremes). Daniel Ames did your developer community talk about a workshop proposal with you before you submitted? I know for GeoTools and GeoServer we had extensive IRC discussions in order to try and choose the right mix (and not overlap). As for any play time with developers (new and old) I am saving my energies for the code sprint. Jody ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
