Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Fw: Re: Change in mailing list configuration

[David Bianco via Discuss]

Having [OSGeo-Discuss] in the subject field also helps with *visual* filtering. 
  For those of us who have 1 folder for all the listserv they are on (geo and 
non-geo).  Or, for emails that get fwd to non-listserv colleagues.

Dave


On Fri, Jan 12, 2024, at 08:58, Jody Garnett via Discuss wrote:
> Thanks folks, and thanks to Sandro and system admin team for managing all 
> this stuff.
> 
> I know from my own experience (website reboot) that by the time a change is 
> shared with disc...@osgoe.org list that the topic is already well underway; 
> and it is hard to slow down and introduce the change to the wider community.
> 
> When working on a lot of tickets it is difficult to predict which ones will 
> be noticed, let alone desire wider discussion.
> 
> suggestion: Perhaps the sysadmin committee could a send an email of planned 
> infrastructure changes each month. Then the community could notice any items 
> of interest for discussion. We would have to keep system admin committee 
> communication channels in mind and comment via the trac tickets.
> 
> aside: I was surprised that my own email filters navigated the change which 
> was set to filter [osgeo-discuss] ... but then I noticed I have a catch-all 
> filtering any osgeo lists server email to this folder.
> --
> Jody Garnett
> 
> 
> On Fri, Jan 12, 2024 at 8:21 AM Sandro Santilli  wrote:
>> On Fri, Jan 12, 2024 at 02:37:26PM +, Luís Moreira de Sousa wrote:
>> > Please read below, in addition to my questions, I note that with the new 
>> > setup my e-mail application no longer replies automatically to the list.
>> 
>> I went looking at the mails before the change also had Reply-To: real
>> author, so should have been the same. Please give it a try.
>> 
>> Meanwhile I'm going to revert the change.
>> 
>> --strk;
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] FOSS4GNA - Someone is watching you :-o

[David Bianco]

If you've attended one FOSS4G, I think you should absolutely be on a 
interested-in-
foss4g list for next year.  Unsubscribe if you are no longer interested.

If you've attended one FOSS4G-NA, I think you should absolutely be on a
interested-in-foss4gna list for next year.  Unsubscribe if you are no
longer interested.

If you've never been to FOSS4G-NA, and you're not interested because of
the NA focus, seems fair that someone shouldn't get unsolicited email
marketing.

I'm quite indifferent about OSgeo v. LT, I would love to see them
holding hands walking off into the sunset.   I'll be at both conferences
next year, and am looking forward to it.  I don't think this topic is
about their differences at all.

** Seems to me if we can find an authoritative answer to Maxi's initial
question "How did they get his email address?", all of this would be put
to rest. **

To Paul's point about being a pro-spammer, I don't see how that is
relevant today.   I spam myself everyday with twitter, discuss lists,
local events, facebook, slack,     there is no shortage of ways to
communicate.   I learn about non-NA geo conferences all the time from
these media outlets, and I like it.   I would love to attend one some
day.   But as far as I can remember, none of them ever sent me a direct
unsolicited email.



On Thu, Dec 17, 2015, at 09:26, Daniel Kastl wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I wanted to share some thoughts, because I don't want that Maxi's
concerns are buried under lots +1's, that "we are just doing our
best for a successful FOSS4G". Maybe Maxi's initial email was a bit
strong and contained the  "LocationTech" keyword ;-)
> I don't think anyone (and for sure not Maxi) wants FOSS4G or OSGeo
not to be successful, and nobody is against marketing.
>
> However doing something with good intent doesn't mean, that it's
right, right?
> If there is a privacy policy, we need to respect it and handle
personal data (like email addresses) accordingly. If there is no
privacy policy, we probably should have one, because there are at
least a few countries I know, where not being able to opt-out or
receiving unwanted emails can become a legal issue quickly (and
cost money).
>
> I remember a few months ago the discussion about Code of Conduct,
where some people thought, we don't need that, because we're well-
educated and friendly people, respecting each other, etc.. A code
of conduct wasn't something I cared about that time, because maybe
it's not common in countries where I live. But I learned, that it's
an important document for North American countries. And I think the
privacy topic is a widely discussed issue in European countries,
and we have some lessons learned about services/organizations
trying to track us.
> So that's maybe the reason, why some are not so happy to click an
encrypted link with tracking ID (and whatever else). While I think
you already get tracked, when you open the email and the transparent
image gets loaded.
> Speaking as a Japanese citizen, it's even seen as bad practice here
to sent HTML emails, so almost every commercial email is text only
with beautiful ASCII art and is really hard to look at.
>
> While reading this thread I had the following questions actually:
> - Is the collected database of email addresses available on request
for every local chapter?
> - If a local chapter passes it to some third party organization (in
this case LocationTech, but replace it with any other name),
what happens with these addresses later? Are they now merged
with the "LocationTech Tour" database or the whole Eclipse
address pool, etc.?
> - If I didn't open my email, because I'm not from North America,
will I be removed from the database and future announcements?
>
> I think most email addresses collected from further events were for
registration purpose. There is no way to register without giving
OSGeo an email address.
> And even if we won't harm anyone, we didn't ask those people, if
they would like to opt-in for a newsletter-like service.
> So I find it somehow OK (gray-zone) to use the existing address
collection for marketing future global FOSS4G events (it's only once
a year), but you need to understand that FOSS4G NA is a regional
event, and that the emails probably haven't been filtered by region.
If we continue this practice, will then every local FOSS4G be able
to spread the word in the name of OSGeo using a collected address
list of the past 10 years?
>
> Personally I think, that as a community we can do much better
marketing than using MailChimp.
> Maybe it's a good idea to add an opt-in form to FOSS4G
registrations, where people can sign up for event announcements,
even with regional preferences eventually?
>
> Best regards, Daniel
>
>
>
> On 18/12/15 01:09, Steven Feldman
  wrote:
>> +1,000,000 to what Paul has said
>>
>> I also passed the FOSS4G 

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] FOSS4GNA - SOMEONE IS WATCHING YOU :-o

[David Bianco]

I believe MailChimp has policies against adding emails to your  list
without a user's authorization.

http://mailchimp.com/legal/acceptable_use/

On Tue, Dec 15, 2015, at 10:16, Rob Emanuele wrote:
> Thanks for pointing out that it wasn't yet posted to OSGeo-Discuss, I
> just posted it. There's a one-click unsubscribe button from that
> mailing list, sorry for the spam!
>
> On Tue, Dec 15, 2015 at 12:31 PM, Massimiliano Cannata
>  wrote:
>> Just a funny note...
>>
>> Nice to see that LocationTech has a FOSS4G email ( WOW!)
>>
>> and. that all the link on the received e-mail are connected with
>> my user_id (I have one? Yes)
>>
>> and that they are tracked (!!! without inform me !!!)
>>
>> and... that I have been added to a list that i'm not subscribed
>> (http://mailchimp.com/about/mcsv/)
>>
>>
>> But... Where did they get my e-mail from? why thy didn't simply post
>> the news to the discussion-osgeo list? what do they want to track?
>>
>>
>>
>> *If you want to see the FOSS4G-NA without been traced here is the
>> link https://2016.foss4g-na.org/*
>>
>>
>> #SPAM #NOT-SO-FAIR #LIKE-MICROSOFT-THAT-SPY-ME #SCARY
>>
>> Best, Maxi
>>
>> --
>> *Massimiliano Cannata* Professore SUPSI in ingegneria Geomatica


>> Responsabile settore Geomatica


>>


>> Istituto scienze della Terra


>>


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>> Scuola universitaria professionale della Svizzera italiana


>> Campus Trevano, CH - 6952 Canobbio


>>


>> Tel. +41 (0)58 666 62 14[1]


>> Fax +41 (0)58 666 62 09[2]


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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Renaming FOSS4G

[David Bianco]

Paul's 2006 link seems to show a split between foss4g and osgeo, as
well.

+1 for changing to "OSGeo Conference".   Call it what it is.   

because 7 ate 9,
Dave

On Tue, Oct 6, 2015, at 15:08, Barry Rowlingson wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 6, 2015 at 10:11 PM, Paragon Corporation  wrote:
> > We really should have just gone with GeoBonkers' Meeting back then. It
> > speaks to me on so many levels.
> 
>  I'm not sure we want bonking at OSGeo events...
> 
> > In all seriousness though, I think changing the name now that everyone has
> > gotten used to it and knows what it means is not a good use of anybody's
> > time.
> 
>  You've missed my point by saying "everyone has gotten used to it".
> Really, "everyone"? This is an introverted point of view of the OSGeo
> community. Yes, you and I and everyone *on this mailing list* knows
> the difference and the relationship between OSGeo and FOSS4G. But
> there are people out there in geospatial who don't know either. They
> are the people we have to reach out to. And its those people to whom I
> hypothesise that "OSGeo" is a better branding than "FOSS4G". But I'm
> not sure the effort to verify this hypothesis (surveys, focus groups)
> is worth it. But my intuition is that it is.
> 
>  The pattern of calling the annual conference of organisation Foo,
> "The Foo Conference" is quite well established in many fields.
> 
> > OSGEO is the Go To for all your FOSS4G needs.
> 
> As they say, "GoTo Considered Harmful"...
> 
> Barry
> 
> 
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Regina
> >
> >
> >
> > From: discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org
> > [mailto:discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org] On Behalf Of Mateusz Loskot
> > Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2015 3:45 PM
> > To: Paul Ramsey 
> > Cc: osgeo-discuss 
> > Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Renaming FOSS4G
> >
> >
> >
> > On 6 Oct 2015 18:28, "Paul Ramsey"  wrote:
> >>
> >> On Tue, Oct 6, 2015 at 8:12 AM, Barry Rowlingson
> >>  wrote:
> >> > Okay, this is probably sticking a match under a pile of dry wood but
> >> > here goes...
> >> >
> >> > Can we rename The FOSS4G Conference to The OSGeo Conference?
> >>
> >> Get off my lawn.
> >>
> >>
> >> https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/conference_dev/2006-September/30.html
> >
> > The decade passed makes it to late, init?
> > Mateusz Łoskot
> > (Sent from mobile)
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[OSGeo-Discuss] OpenStreetMap + Bing

[David Bianco]

http://www.bing.com/community/site_blogs/b/maps/archive/2010/11/23/bing-engages-open-maps-community.aspx

microsoft osm bing maps openstreetmap osgeo
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Re: [California] RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] Los Angeles

[David Bianco]

Ragi!   Good to see you online.   Are you independent now? e-me direct.
(we both did time at esri.  me: 11 years.)

The webmapsocial meetup group Ragi links to is exactly the kind of thing I'd
like to see happen in Los Angeles.  Monthly talks, free open-source desktop
seminars  all that would be great, but I'm content with starting out at
the local pub.   I know Portland has a bustling community (
http://groups.google.com/group/pdx-osgis 82 members!).   I found an LA
openstreetmap meetup group last week, hoping to meet some new faces there.

I'm all for helping to build the CA osgeo chapter, but more to the point,
I'm trying to get a local community brewing.   LA is a huge city, I can't be
the only evangelist.   Perhaps the esri kool-aid is thicker than I realize
since we are in their backyard after all.

David


On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 3:49 PM, Ragi Y. Burhum r...@burhum.com wrote:

 Man, Blake, I guess I get no love even though I work the CA OSGeo booths a
 lot lately ha ha ha. Oh well.

 Anyway, I am also interested in working in a CA-based project... put me
 down in your list.

 On another note I am doing a presentation @ Google on PostGIS and OSGeo for
 one of the local meetup on Oct 6th if any of you bay area people are
 interested check it out http://www.meetup.com/webmapsocial/

 David: long time no see... we should go visit Juan one of these days :)

 - Ragi

 On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 9:00 AM, california-requ...@lists.osgeo.orgwrote:

 Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 14:02:42 -0700
 From: Landon Blake lbl...@ksninc.com
 Subject: [California] RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] Los Angeles
 To: OSGeo Discussions discuss@lists.osgeo.org
 Cc: califor...@lists.osgeo.org
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 David,



 Sorry for the delayed response.



 I believe we have a few lurkers in the Southern California area, but not
 anyone really active that I can think of. I do remember someone from
 Southern California that listened into one of our meetings. (His first
 name was Joe?) Most of the activity in our chapter is coming out of the
 UC Davis Campus. Alex Mandel is taking the lead there. We've also got
 someone from the Sacramento area that works at the California Geological
 Survey, if I am not mistaken.



 Brian Hamlin is also quite active, and I believe he hangs his hat in the
 Bay Area. I'm in the Central Valley.



 The size of our state is a challenge to organizing OSGeo activities.
 We've talked about organizing smaller regional chapters in the state,
 but I don't think we have the support for that yet. Personally, I would
 like us to think about how we can draw more OSGeo enthusiasts from
 California together via online means. Alex has focused a lot on getting
 an OSGeo presence at California conferences, which is great, but I'm
 personally interested in seeing what we can do as a group on the
 software front. Our chapter is home to Silicon Valley, after all. :]



 I've been meaning to bring this up, but haven't had the time to put
 together an intelligent e-mail. I will try to make time to do so this
 week.



 Landon

 Office Phone Number: (209) 946-0268

 Cell Phone Number: (209) 992-0658





 

 From: discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org
 [mailto:discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org] On Behalf Of David Bianco
 Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 2:57 PM
 To: OSGeo Discussions
 Subject: [OSGeo-Discuss] Los Angeles




 I'm looking to meet up with fellow Los Angeles based osgeo people.I
 put a call out in the California chapter email list but did not get a
 response.Perhaps you all are lurking here on the main list?   I work
 in downtown LA.Let me know where you at!

 David Bianco

 http://groups.google.com/group/lax-osgis



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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] methods for programatically adding fields to shapefiles

[David Bianco]

I have experience using Perl and the DBI module to do work like this.  I've
read from dbf files in the past, but have not written to one.  Still, I see
no reason why it would be a hangup.Let me know if you'd like to go in
that direction.

Dave


On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 4:56 PM, Alex Mandel [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:

 Tyler Erickson wrote:

 I am interested in approaches for adding a populated field to a shapefile
 (for example, adding a new field named 'source_url' with the value
 'http://somewebsite.com').  I would like to do this for several thousand
 files.

 At first I thought that I might be able to accomplish it using ogr2org
 with
 a sql clause, such as:

 ogr2ogr -sql select *, 'http://somewebsite.com' as source_url from
 infile
 outfile.shp infile.shp

 but that didn't work since ogr2ogr supports a limited set of SQL,
 described
 at:
 http://www.gdal.org/ogr/ogr_sql.html

 Any ideas on how to accomplish this? (I would prefer suggestions that can
 be
 scripted with python.)

 - Tyler


 Open a data connection the dbf with python, add a field to the properties
 of the table and populate the field.

 There are several ways to connect to a dbf depending on the OS, you could
 use an ODBC connector, or use some other type of dbf driver.
 I haven't looked closely but there might be a dbf driver in the ogr python
 bindings already.

 I think my quick fix was to use python windows tools to wrap the dbf com
 object as a python object I could call, but that was a quick a dirty
 solution on windows.

 The other thing I've done is to create a blank shapefile with the exact
 same scheme + one field. Do an ogr2ogr -f ESRI Shapefile -a (append) of
 the blank shapefile and your existing one, and now you have a new field.

 Alex

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