[OSGeo-Discuss] Migrating to Postgres 9 for replication?
I would love to hear success stories or horror stories about migrating from Postgres 8.3 or 8.4 to 9, in order to get replication working. At least that is what I have been told we need to do. One master database and two failover copies. It would save a lot of maintenance time, I am imagining! -- Phone: +44 (0)131 6502973 Skype: metazool Service Manager, Unlock, EDINA National Datacentre Unlock places from text and data: http://unlock.edina.ac.uk/ The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in Scotland, with registration number SC005336. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[OSGeo-Discuss] (PDF Geotagging) Re: Fwd: Discuss Digest, Vol 61, Issue 16
hello OSGeoids! Thank you very much, I will try your API as soon as possible. Is there a way to have access to the source code behind your web service ? Or isn't it open source ? El 2012-01-17 12:11, James Reid escribió: You could check out our Unlock Text service at: http://unlock.edina.ac.uk/texts/introduction James nudged me in the direction of this thread. The Edinburgh Geoparser is open source *in principle* (GPL). In the short term the best way to get hold of a copy is to email Claire Grover ( gro...@inf.ed.ac.uk ) of the Language Technology Group, for a distribution which includes both source and binaries. Bootstrapping issue; more work is needed on packaging and documentation. But project based funding means effort goes into new features improvements rather than maintaining the core. What would *help* is a trickle of people knocking on our door and crucially *offering feedback* on how easy/hard the Geoparser was to get running, and where doc/install improvements would be most helpful. The door is ajar and now is a good time to give it a push, as LTG are migrating to a new cleaned up subversion repository. I would love to see LTG to bring the project to OSGeo Labs, they are researchers and the software is more of a side-effect than a product. -- The University of Edinburgh is a charitable body, registered in Scotland, with registration number SC005336. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[OSGeo-Discuss] are there Charter Member elections on?
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[OSGeo-Discuss] Re: Discuss Digest, Vol 45, Issue 21
Collecting some thoughts... On 12/09/2010 17:00, discuss-requ...@lists.osgeo.org wrote: OSGeo-women has been created as a chapter, similar to local chapters. The final aim is to promote participation of women in OSGeo groupings, like most others, are entirely artificial I signed up, despite some misgivings which i outlined here: http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Talk:Women_Chapter#Thoughts_about_this_sort_of_thing In essence, That the root causes are not about women but about all of us, and not about software but about society... Where to, OSGeo? members and partners in the broad sense can give money... new revenue stream from events or other new products. How much OSGeo should care and work for FOS data, FOS education OSGeo should encourage going beyond the baseline, but that should not be in its main mission. I had a ramble at the board list on vaguely this topic: http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/board/2010-September/003566.html In essence, cross-subsidy of time commitment with other organisations who do have a more focused mission about different related subjects (geodata and foss4g in education, or open standards and open government) love, jo -- ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[OSGeo-Discuss] OKF / OSGeo response to the consultation on opening Ordnance Survey data
dear a...@osgeo, In sending this mail I'm following the protocol for letters of support coming from OSGeo: http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Protocol_for_requesting_letter_of_support As you may have heard, there's a public consultation running in the UK on options for open licensing national mapping data maintained by Ordnance Survey. There's been some discussion on the OSGeo-UK list and the Open Knowledge Foundation discuss list about a shared response to the consultation. Here's the basically final draft - wording could change a little. http://docs.google.com/Doc?docid=0ATJnv_t9ROmXZGN0Yjk3ampfMjBmM2ZqZnpkMghl=en The consultation outlines 3 options: 1) is Do Nothing, 2) is Open Everything, 3) is staged release of some products including postcode geolocations (critical in the UK as a postal code is typically less than a city block in size) and adminstrative boundaries. The response sets the case for a modified Option 2, all raw vector data. Deadline for the response is March 17th, but it would be great to publish it within the next week, so it can be circulated and perhaps have a chance of influencing others' responses. This would be a shared response with the Open Knowledge Foundation. [[During a period of 3 days (72 hours) the OSGeo community will have an opportunity to respond with comments indicating why OSGeo should or should not explicitly support the project. If more information is required that should be stated during this review period.]] Still accepting edits, but don't plan to change the intent of the doc. be well all, jo -- ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[OSGeo-Discuss] FOSS participation in the OGC and other standards efforts
dear all, Hah, I discovered how to post blog entries to the OSGeo.org site. http://www.osgeo.org/node/513 is a writeup of a short-notice talk given to the OGC's Mass Market WG at their last physical meeting, giving an Open Source Perspective on their Mass Market effort. I was attending on one of the individual memberships on offer to OSGeo http://wiki.osgeo.org/index.php/Standards has more details on this. I've also been reading with interest the first INSPIRE (European SDI) drafts to come out of the Network Services team of experts for the JRC. The Commission is soliciting comments and reports on the usage of SOAP/WSDL in the frame of setting up an SDI from stakeholders (implementors, service providers, users), which would be greatly welcome, given how much vendor puff one can imagine them receiving. http://wiki.osgeo.org/index.php/FOSS_SDIC Those implementing W*S clients and services should be aware that *if* SOAP is mandated by the Directive, all public authorities in Europe will be legally bound to provide SOAP bindings (in theory, anyway). But it seems to me the claims being made for SOAP by the experts are overstated and short-sighted. http://wiki.osgeo.org/index.php/SOAP Meanwhile OGC are revising their specs to supply definite SOAP bindings where none exist, so that testing and benchmarking can happen. Like it or not, this is all a standards-related marketing opportunity. Standards-***king! I had better go have a cold shower and write some code. felices fiestas, jo -- ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[OSGeo-Discuss] Reflections on the Jornadas gvSIG
dear all, I got a lot out of the Jornadas gvSIG 3-day user/developer meeting last week, and wanted to share a few notes with la comunidad ingles-hablante. One thing that jumped out is the strength of positive language about software libre amongst the user community; not just acceptance, but promotion of free software and public data in general, at the highest levels of public administration. I wrote a little more about this on the OKFN blog: http://blog.okfn.org/2007/11/20/keeping-open-libre/ Another highlight was getting to sit in on the Libro SIG group meeting, concentrating the local OSGeo-istas. This is a hive of energetic and committed seeming people, with half a free GIS book written already, a lot on the mathematics behind analysis techniques contributed by Victor Olaya of the SEXTANTE project, which sounds like a sort of Java OSSIM. The whole question or marshalling a lot of different translators and contributors to a book in potentially many different languages is a fascinating one. http://wiki.osgeo.org/index.php/Libro_SIG - a GIS book that is free rather than a book about free and open GIS tools specifically. gvSIG is on close terms with GeoNetwork and Jeroen was there giving a couple of talks. Metadatos are increasingly attended to, partly due to the pressure from the INSPIRE SDI Directive in Europe. The metadata plugin which Michael Gould's group has undere development will one day share state with and encourage contributions from other plugins. There's also a nice amount of connection from gvSIG to OpenStreetmap, both in terms of people like Ivan Sanchez and Miguel Montesinos, and in the software in terms of UI integration and data re-use. The talks at the Jornadas were mostly oriented towards the user community - policymakers, planners, researchers and educators - the technical depth and excitement seemed rather higher in the gvSIG talks at FOSS4G. One thing that stood out for me was the absense of visible commercial culture really hanging around the event. There were a few sponsored sessions (Eclipse, SGI) but no booths, some poster presentations but no promotional material on display. I cast my mind back to what so amazed me at FOSSGIS in Berlin last March; stalls and displays for a dozen, maybe two, open source and open hardware oriented commercial consultancies. I wonder why there's not more evidence of this sort of thing here. There seems no obvious impedance, there's so much apparent enthusiasm for tecnologia libre in the public authority market, which in its regionalism and municipality is not so different from how it looks in Germany. I wonder how (and if!) this sort of thing can be encouraged... hasta luego, jo -- ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Re: idea for an OSGeo project -- a new, open data format
dear Steve, all, On Tue, Nov 13, 2007 at 05:24:55PM +, Steve Coast wrote: Real artists ship. For everyone else there's standards wanking. As the origins of the word 'yardstick' suggest, size is relative, and standards and wanking have always been intimately connected. http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?search=yardstick this: We should have got a committee to design a standard, then we could think about a committee to design an ontology... and choose a As http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Map_Features states, there is benefit in agreeing a recommended set of features and corresponding tags. This page is a beautiful work and has many interesting properties. But it's an ontology designed by a committee, the work of core contributors needing more structure to achieve their aims, than an completely open key-value tag system. I'm impressed to see how many different language communities have worked to translate this page and explain its contents. Yet, italians, swedes and spaniards alike must use english-language key and value 'tags' in order to have their work show up on the map. Many annotations made before the core recommended feature set was fixed have been lost to perception; though it's technically possible to use a different system, adapt the rendering and annotation clients, then that work would be lost to re-use. A bit more structure would afford a lot more future adaptation and translation. OSM is a brilliant project, borne of real need and social momentum. Meanwhile some corners of the standards industry really have gone off the rails and appear to be acting against common sense and user benefit. About the most depressing thing i heard at FOSS4G was, in the middle of an interesting talk, we were going to implement cool feature X, but we're *waiting for the standard*. As i think you've pointed out in the past, standards like the core Map Features ought to emerge from common practise, from comparing different things that are shipped and running and being used. Standards that *do* work, like WMS and RSS, will get picked up. The core difference in approach seems to be a question of process. As Bitner pointed out, sometimes it makes sense to slow down a bit in order to let others catch up, so we can all go faster. jo -- ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Return on Equity
dear Howard, thanks for your email which has been along with its responses very thought-provoking, On Tue, Aug 28, 2007 at 10:18:36PM -0700, Dave Patton wrote: Howard Butler wrote: Most of OSGeo's measurable successes to date have been volunteer efforts, not primarily financially-backed ones. The OSGeo Journal effort, Google Summer of Code administration, the Geodata committee's efforts, and even much of our system administration to keep the lights on for developer tools Well, these are quite different kinds of efforts. The Journal has come together because of Tyler's time invested in it, so it is more or less direct financial backing from OSGeo. The SoC programme, look forward to hear more about the eventual experiences of, but that came about in the first place because of direct Google financial support to students. The Geodata committee's efforts have been more like what you describe about software projects coming together - a byproduct of a set of interconnected people each scratching their own itches. But being more loose collaboration than planned action it is a bit impenetrable to those outside the immediate loop, i think. And geodata and systems administration have overlapped quite a bit, as people get shanghaied into helping with different problems ;) But keeping the lights on, and creating new things, are quite different. One burns out on doing administrative / organising things and i wish there were a way that could be automated and/or shared. The structure we have now with one Committee Chair per committee, one gets into overcommitment/guilt and superfluous soul-searching. benefactor as we do now. We're almost two years down the road into bootstrapping, and our majority benefactor situation has budged very little. As far as I know, our only significant incoming sponsorship dollars beyond Autodesk are the targeted development vehicles like those that pay for a permanent maintainer for GDAL. This definitely seems something the Board should be talking about, the whole question of what sponsors are visibly getting and what can be done to get them involved, and at what should we aim. I have added a few notes to the Agenda section for the next meeting right before FOSS4G and i would urge anyone to add their concerns so it can be refined - re-framed? - nearer the time... http://wiki.osgeo.org/index.php/Board_Meeting_FOSS4G2007#Agenda There has certainly been a lot of volunteer effort by the organizers of the FOSS4G 2007 conference It is terrific to see so much effort and I am really looking forward to getting to see it realised, taking lots of pictures, sending press releases etc. At the same time i am having to beg and borrow to get to Victoria and I know many, many others from outside North America for whom the combination of long flight and cost of living disparity is just too large a barrier. Something else i would like to add to the Board's discussion is the possibility of funding either travel expenses or better, several smaller conferences distributed around the planet, next year... cheers, jo -- ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[OSGeo-Discuss] Re: [Board] Your input needed for Nominations
hi Tyler, all, I recall last year the Board nominations + accompanying text were posted to the main discuss list, not just to the CRO figure . That seemed to spur people on to think about who they might want to see on the board. http://wiki.osgeo.org/index.php/Board_Election_2007#Nominations now shows Bob Bray, Mike Gerlek, and Jeroen T. as a possible, as new nominees. There are several other people who have made a lot of effort and who would bring valuable thoughts and contacts to the Board, but i've held back from nominating because they are all North American, as are 3/4 of the continuing 'rump' board. Moving back to Europe it is hard not to notice how much less well-embedded and well-promoted open source is, in business and government context. A lot of OSGeo's promotional effort (appearance at conferences) has happened in North America where there is already critical mass. It would be great to see more board representation from outside NA and Europe :) cheers, jo On Mon, Jul 16, 2007 at 08:53:48AM -0700, Tyler Mitchell (OSGeo) wrote: As part of the board elections I automatically put confirmed next to Venka, Markus and Jo but would still like to have a nomination and at least one paragraph of text for each person. I am looking for volunteers to write something up and submit it as a nomination for their re-election - otherwise they will be blank and that won't really be fair. Also - please note there are only a couple days left to submit nominations - and we need a lot more than I have already received! Period ends: http://timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html? month=7day=20year=2007hour=0min=0sec=0p1=0 Please see http://wiki.osgeo.org/index.php/Board_Election_2007 If you need some background about some folks, this may help: http://www.osgeo.org/content/news/news_archive/board_nom_20060314.html Thank you, Tyler ___ Board mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/board -- ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] OSCON 2007
On Fri, Jan 26, 2007 at 08:48:34AM -0500, Doug Nebert wrote: Be Heard at OSCON 2007 -- Submit Your Proposal to Lead Sessions and Tutorials by February 5! I really enjoyed being part of the OSGeo presence at last year's OSCON. There was a lot of interest in the open source geospatial offering from other free software communities, particularly the database people. It was a really good opportunity to network in a broader way, and find people who have the mindset if not the toolset yet. I'd definitely recommend that people submit talks, not least because an accepted talk gets you in for free :) jo -- ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
