Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] The Geotools fork and current relicensing discussion [was Re: The importance of a project's license]

2012-07-27 Thread Justin Deoliveira
 me as between honoring the intent of
 contributors to Geotools 2.6 and honoring the desire of the Geotoolkit
 contributors to take forwards their code base and build a community after
 having been rejected by OSGeo. Personally, it feels wrong to have all of
 Geotools 2.6 relicensed from a *GPL style license to an APL or similarly
 permissive license. My personal motivations are very different in those two
 different environments. However, it also feels wrong to impose my strong
 personal preference in a way that blocks the progress of others since I
 want free software exactly so that others have the freedom to leverage my
 work. This is especially true given that the core code base of the two
 projects was overwhelmingly Martin's work, and that the new code base has
 diverged enormously from the time of the fork.


 Given these two 'wrong feelings' how do we find the best resolution? I am
 surprising myself in deciding that my strong inclination towards
 considering as inviolate the terms of a license are trumped by
 circumstance. Given the exclusion of Geotoolkit from OSGeo, the importance
 of the Apache foundation to free software in general, the overwhelming
 contribution of Martin to the original Geotools code base, the extent to
 which the geotoolkit code has been refactored since them, it would strike
 me as most judicious for OSGeo to figure out a way for Geotoolkit to be
 able to join the Apache project.


   ~adrian custer



 P.S. Like others, I find license discussions exceedingly burdensome, a
 necessary evil. Today, I have lost a few hours on this email. Therefore, I
 might simply ignore subsequent discussion, even if messages contain direct
 questions made to me. It is not that interesting.


 [1] I was a minor contributor to Geotools, mostly on the analysis and
 documentation side and was then part of the Geotoolkit fork. Please do note
 however, that I have since moved on and am not working with any of those
 projects or talking to any of those folk these days, so this analysis,
 critique, and comments are my own only.


 [2] I personally find the failure to make Martin a charter member as one
 glaring indictment of OSGeo and its community, revealing the inwards
 looking favoritism and lack of exploration beyond. There are few people as
 passionate, knowledgeable, or productive as Martin about free geospatial
 software so the fact that OSGeo has not managed to pull in his energy
 reveals both that the community fails to include some great folk and that
 OSGeo does not actually manage to represent the interests of 'free
 geospatial software' in general.


 [3] For the pedantic, yes, the OSGeo incubating committee did not actually
 *deny* geotoolkit.  Indeed trac ticket 362 (http://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/**
 ticket/362 http://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/ticket/362) is still open.
 However, the incubating committee slowly stopped communicating with the
 project resulting in a de facto rejection. Taking a formal decision might
 have required some fortitude but would have been more elegant.



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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Charter Member Nomination: Andrea Aime

2012-06-30 Thread Justin Deoliveira
Just wanted to add my +1 to this nomination. Anyone who has worked with
Andrea knows there is no question about his commitment to open source geo
software. He will make a great charter member.

On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 11:44 AM, Gabriel Roldan grol...@opengeo.orgwrote:

 I second Andrea's nomination too. Having worked closely with him on
 the GeoTools and GeoServer projects for the last seven years or so,
 and truly believe neither project would be what they are without
 Andrea's continued commitment.

 Gabriel.
 On Mon, Jun 25, 2012 at 2:39 PM, Jeff McKenna
 jmcke...@gatewaygeomatics.com wrote:
  On 12-06-25 2:26 PM, Jody Garnett wrote:
  I would like to nominate Andrea Aime for OSGeo charter membership.
 
 
  I second Andrea's nomination.  I've had the pleasure to work closely
  with him through several FOSS4G Benchmarking exercises; he is a very
  hard worker and a big supporter of OSGeo.  And I'm proud to say that
  we're good friends even after going through all that :)
 
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Re: Java library that can read GML file then port to Java classes

2010-09-15 Thread Justin Deoliveira
In general only the simplest profiles are gml are handled, more or less
simple features level 0. I don't think this schema falls into that category
so while geotools could parse it I don't think you would get exactly what
you expect. I suggest asking on the geotools user lists, the folks that do
complex application schema support should be able to help.

-Justin

On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 6:13 AM, eros gml.check.t...@gmail.com wrote:


 Can support the below gml/schema files?

 xsd files:
 http://osgeo-org.1803224.n2.nabble.com/file/n5533815/Ksj_Common.xsd
 Ksj_Common.xsd

 http://osgeo-org.1803224.n2.nabble.com/file/n5533815/KsjAppSchema-A02_b-v1_0.xsd
 KsjAppSchema-A02_b-v1_0.xsd

 gml file:
 http://osgeo-org.1803224.n2.nabble.com/file/n5533815/A02-60M-13-b-5339.xml
 A02-60M-13-b-5339.xml

 Please take a look with the files.
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Java library that can read GML file then port to Java classes

2010-09-14 Thread Justin Deoliveira
Gml 3.2 support is coming in geotools soon, but not quite there yet. If you
are eager for it though you can grab it from my github repository.

  http://github.com/jdeolive/geotools/tree/gml32

I hope to commit the changes back to geotools svn sometime this week.

-Justin

On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 12:37 AM, eros gml.check.t...@gmail.com wrote:


 I would like to read a gml file then port to Java classes for further
 processing..
 i've heard geotools has GML3_2 package...

 please help me to decide on what java library to use...

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Versioning of spatial data - Query

2009-07-29 Thread Justin Deoliveira
GeoTools has some custom extensions which add versioning capabilities on 
top of postgis:


http://geotools.codehaus.org/Versioning+Postgis

On top of that some extensions were also built into GeoServer that 
extend the WFS protocol to support versioning:


http://geoserver.org/display/GEOS/Versioning+WFS+-+Extensions

It is still experimental at this stage but people have successfully set 
up working demos with it.


-Justin

Abhay wrote:

Hello All,

I wish to know, is there any system other than ESRI ArcSDE that supports 
versioning of GeoSpatial Data. 

If so could anyone point me to a possible solution in opensource and 
apart from write my own custom application/Workflow from scratch.


I have tried google for solution but am not able make or break any idea 
to solve this, so with a confused mind I ask, could there be 
a possibility that SVN or any version control system 
(application/mechanics/functionality) be merged with PostgreSQL 
(Postgis) to create this solution.


Rgds.

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Generating html clickable image maps from polygons

2009-01-05 Thread Justin Deoliveira

Someone recently contributed an html imagemap module for GeoServer.

http://geoserver.org/display/GEOS/HTML+ImageMap+support

An example of it in action here:

http://geo.openplans.org/states.html

-Justin

Alexandre Leroux wrote:


Hi list,

A rather technical question. I was able to find a potential solution 
with GRASS GIS, but want to know if there are other solutions involving 
FOSS4G software.


Which other FOSS4G software can generate html clickable image maps out 
of polygons? The challenge is simple: a colleague has many polygons that 
must be exported to several clickable PNGs like the example on this 
page: http://www.weatheroffice.gc.ca/warnings/sqc_e.html
(A webmap tool such as OpenLayers would be much more powerful, but in 
some cases we do need clickable PNGs.)


I found out it seems GRASS GIS 6.3+ can do it via its HTMLMAP driver:
http://www.phygeo.uni-hannover.de/grass/grass63/manuals/html63_user/htmlmapdriver.html 


Can any other OSGeo software do the same?


Thanks for any reply!

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Software to test a WCS server?

2008-11-03 Thread Justin Deoliveira

Hi Alexandre,

There is a CITE (Compliance and Interoperability Test Engine) which is 
used to test reference implementations for OGC specs, including WCS. You 
can get the engine from:


http://sourceforge.net/projects/teamengine

To get the tests for wcs you need to sign up for an account on the OGC 
portal.I am not sure if they are publicly available elsewhere.


The easiest way (if you are interested) is probably to send a message to 
the CITE forum:


[EMAIL PROTECTED]

And state that you want access to the tests.

-Justin

Alexandre Leroux wrote:


Hi all,

I tried to find a quick way to test our WCS server implementation (it's 
specifically for an in-house meteorological data format - not useful 
outside our organization).


What I'm looking for is a simple software such as QGIS, uDig or similar 
to test loading data from our WCS server, and help us debugging it! :-) 
After some searches, I found GeoServer supports WCS and well, nothing 
else. I must be wrong!


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_Coverage_Service

GDAL supports WCS to some extent:
http://gdal.org/frmt_wcs.html


Thanks a lot for any feedback!

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Research For Shared Java CRS Library

2008-05-05 Thread Justin Deoliveira




I know some of you want to know why we aren’t just going to use the 
GeoAPI interfaces. I don’t know enough about the GeoAPI code to say that 
it won’t be used. I think that will need to be part of our research 
process. It would make sense to use GeoAPI as a home for common 
interfaces if this is possible. I don’t want to reinvent any existing 
technology.
Just to chime in about GeoAPI. From someone who has had to implement a 
number of its interfaces here are my thoughts.


1) Its a great way to talk about standards in the context of java interfaces

2) Its not a good way to promote interoperability

Now this is just my opinion of course so take it with a grain of salt. 
But anyone who has looked at the geoapi interfaces can tell you they are 
not simple. Which creates a large entry barrier for someone wanting to 
implement them, which defeats the entire purpose.


I would think by definition a library which is intended to be used as a 
base for other projects needs to be as simple as possible. Look at proj 
for instance, i am by no means an expert on the code base but from what 
I have seen there are no unnecessary abstractions. Which I would think 
is a large part of the reason it has been utilized so effectively by 
most of the other projects in the C and python community.


My 2c.

-Justin



 


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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Integration test bed

2007-10-11 Thread Justin Deoliveira
 
 The future.
 ==
 Justin Deoliveira, of the Open Planning Project, was in charge
 of the Integration Showcase, and he loaded the Canadian geodata
 onto the Refractions server. During FOSS4G2007 I had a
 discussion with Justin and Chris Holmes, about the Integration
 Showcase. What came out of that was an idea of 'how to do it
 better in the future'. I then had subsequent discussions with
 some other people at the conference about this idea. Here is my
 interpretation of the general outline of what was discussed.


Part of the problem was that I was not aggressive enough about making
sure people had demos in place. Everyone was so busy (understandably) as
the conference got near that it just fell off. And I am no exception :).
Also as Jody stated the other big issue was hardware availability. Some
interested parties just could not participate because they did not have
a machine to work with on site.

I think to pull this off next time around one will need to put something
a bit more formal in place. Perhaps having people sign up for a
machine to be used for the integration showcase well before hand (like
around the same time they submit workshops). An additional machine is
then rented for them (or perhaps one of the workshop machines is reused).

Having some sort of contract like this in place would be a bit more
binding and would force people to ensure things are set up before hand.
 Especially since a machine has been set aside for them. Organizers
could then treat showcase setup like workshop setup.

My 2c.

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Integration test bed thingy at FOSS4G

2007-08-24 Thread Justin Deoliveira
Hi Arnulf,
 
 Additionally we hope that someone from the GeoServer community will do
 the same for a WFS-T.
 [W07] Introduction to Geospatial Collaboration using Geoserver
 Chris Holmes
 The Open Planning Project
 
 And so on.
 
 The WhereGroup will contribute a generic GeoServer WFS-T with the
 Canadian SRS so that people can add notes, make appointments in Victoria
 during the conference and so on. At the start of the conference we let
 the url out of the bag.
 
I will be throwing up a GeoServer instance on the demo server. I like
the idea of throwing together some live tables that people can edit via
wfs with the various clients and publish via wms. The appointment
scenario is a good one to start with. I will update the wiki with the
connection info.

 
 PS:
 How does the Demonstration Theatre tie into this?
 http://www.foss4g2007.org/exhibition/demotheatre/
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Integration test bed thingy at FOSS4G

2007-08-24 Thread Justin Deoliveira
Hi Daniel,

I have a mapserver instance installed on the same server running the
postgis database. I am using it to publish some raster data via WMS at
the moment. Probably use it to serve up some dem data as well.

It is not listed on the site because I was thinking that someone else
would probably be coming along and throw one up.

But we can definitely keep it running in order to participate in the
showcase. A volunteer (more experienced with mapserver then myself :) )
to help setup some nice map files would be welcomed.

-Justin

Daniel Morissette wrote:
 Arnulf Christl wrote:
 Potentially the outcome of a previous workshop could be this WMS...
 (dream on).

 We share Jody's hope that someone from the MapServer community is
 actually setting up a WMS for or during FOSS4G.
 For example W05:  Tom Kralidis
 Environmennt Canada
 Daniel Morissette
 MapGears

 
 It's a real shame that MapServer is not represented in the Integration
 Showcase (http://wiki.osgeo.org/index.php/FOSS4G2007_IntegrationShowcase)
 
 I didn't realize that until just now.
 
 Sorry to break your hopes, but the OGC Workshop (W-05) is not currently
 planning to produce the WMS service based on the showcase data that
 you're dreaming of. I guess we could/should rework it to do that, but I
 don't think I have the time.
 
 My big problem is time... I'd love to see a MapServer WMS in the
 showcase and I really think that we're missing the boat if there is not
 one, but I have already got way too much stuff on my plate and cannot
 undertake that. I mean I could hack together a quick mapfile, but what
 we'd need is a mapfile that makes the data look really good and shows
 the real power of MapServer... and that will take time.
 
 There are hundreds of MapServer users out there who could contribute
 that bit. If there is anyone interested in setting up WMS services based
 on the showcase data then please speak up.
 
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Integration test bed thingy at FOSS4G

2007-08-24 Thread Justin Deoliveira
I just threw up a GeoServer instance and updated the wiki page.

http://wiki.osgeo.org/index.php/FOSS4G2007_IntegrationShowcase#GeoServer

Currently it is only publishing a single dataset, an appointments
dataset as Arnulf suggested. Let he brainstorming begin about what kind
of live datasets we want to setup and I can do the GeoServer
configuration accordingly.

-Justin

Cameron Shorter wrote:
 Arnulf, good idea to have a WFS-T we can all connect to. How about we
 publish the URL before the demo so that we can set up and test our
 clients, then reset the data at the start of the conference. (Mike Adair
 is setting up a Mapbuilder client.)
 
 Arnulf Christl wrote:
 Our 2ct for the Integration Showcase:

 PS. I am really hoping that anyone good at MapServer will take a run
 at the problem.

 We are interested in consuming WMS and WFS services in our application
 Mapbender. We do not need the Online Resources or FeatureTypes of the
 services now because we want to add the services during the FOSS4G2007
 Integration Showcase.
 Unfortunately the Mapbender workshop W-03 is at the same time that
 Jeff and MapStorer lab and during the whole conference at the OSGeo
 booth. Potentially the outcome of a previous workshop could be this
 WMS... (dream on).

 We share Jody's hope that someone from the MapServer community is
 actually setting up a WMS for or during FOSS4G.
 For example W05:  Tom Kralidis
 Environmennt Canada
 Daniel Morissette
 MapGears

 Additionally we hope that someone from the GeoServer community will do
 the same for a WFS-T.
 [W07] Introduction to Geospatial Collaboration using Geoserver
 Chris Holmes
 The Open Planning Project

 And so on.

 The WhereGroup will contribute a generic GeoServer WFS-T with the
 Canadian SRS so that people can add notes, make appointments in
 Victoria during the conference and so on. At the start of the
 conference we let the url out of the bag.

 The integration success is if gvSIG and MapBuilder and uDIG can all
 write to the same WFS. A corresponding map is generated by a MapServer
 WMS that looks into the same database. Anybody at FOSS4G who can
 consume these WMS and WFS has access to these feature types and maps
 and make appointments and view them and send them to others with the
 tools of her choice.

 If everybody simply uses the same data and makes sure that what they
 do is well documented by EduCom then a life OSGeo SDI with
 documentation and curriculum will evolve. Some tidying can be done
 during the Friday Developers Code Sprint.
 Sounds like a cool conference that I am looking very much forward to.
 31 days to go.
 Best regards, Arnulf

 PS:
 How does the Demonstration Theatre tie into this?
 http://www.foss4g2007.org/exhibition/demotheatre/
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Integration test bed thingy at FOSS4G

2007-08-24 Thread Justin Deoliveira

 A MapServer WMS is probably, just like the database itself, one of the
 backend services that should be hosted on the main server and have its
 URL published as early as possible so that others can build their demos
 against it.
 
 

 But we can definitely keep it running in order to participate in the
 showcase. A volunteer (more experienced with mapserver then myself :) )
 to help setup some nice map files would be welcomed.

 
 Which version of MapServer are you currently running, probably 4.10?
 Would it be an option to also install a recent 5.0 beta with AGG support
 (with some help)?
Yes 4.10. I will grab the latest 5.0 beta and see if i can compile it.
 
 Hopefully we can make that a MapServer community effort and if Paul (who
 just replied saying he'd also be interested) and/or myself setup a
 strawman mapfile others from the community can contribute enhancements
 to it to make the default map output (without SLD) look real good.
 
 
 This is probably becoming off-topic for this list, is there another
 better place where we could continue that discussion with interested
 parties?
Agreed. I will talk to Paul R about possible setting up a mail list for
the integration showcase... if there is not already one.
 
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Integration test bed thingy at FOSS4G

2007-08-23 Thread Justin Deoliveira
Hi Bob,

I think what Jody was trying to point you at was this:

http://wiki.osgeo.org/index.php/FOSS4G2007_IntegrationShowcase#PostGIS_Database_:_Refractions_Research

It is what you say, a single spot of storage for the data which has a
subset of those datasets posted on the Canadian Geodata page.

-Justin

Bob Basques wrote:
 Jody,
 
 Ok, I must be dense, I don't see a link to any data anywhere on this
 page: http://wiki.osgeo.org/index.php/FOSS4G2007_IntegrationShowcase
 A lot of reference and catalog description links though.
 
 Is this it?  :http://wiki.osgeo.org/index.php/Canadian_Geodata, not
 exactly obvious from the previous page if you ask me.
 
 Ok, this is a neat idea, but shouldn't there be one spot with a copy of
 the data someplace, even just a subset of smaller datasets would start
 folks going.   It would make it much easier to get started on
 participation.
 
 
 bobb
 
 
 
 Jody Garnett wrote:
 Bob Basques wrote:
 Is this restricted to conference attendees?
 Nope.
 Also, where is the data?  Is there one copy of somewhere to download?
 See the wiki page.

 Jody
 PS. Join the osgeo data committee if you want to collaborate on this
 kind of thing outside of the bounds of the conference.
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Data for the Integration Showcase

2007-08-23 Thread Justin Deoliveira
The link provided by Jody is more for people who can access the data
directly from the postgis database.

If you are looking to get at the original data you will have to contact
the provider of the dataset: myself, Dave Patton, or Jason Birch.

-Justin

Bob Basques wrote:
 Jody,
 
 Not a big deal for me, just thinking about others that might try it.
 
 I started through the first entry in Dave Pattons's list and still
 haven't figured out where the download spot is,  I'm doing this between
 other things though, so I'm easily distracted.
 
 I'll do more of a random attempt at looking for the data sources next.
 
 bobb
 
 
 
 Jody Garnett wrote:
 Bob Basques wrote:
 Jody,

 Ok, I must be dense, I don't see a link to any data anywhere on this
 page: http://wiki.osgeo.org/index.php/FOSS4G2007_IntegrationShowcase
 A lot of reference and catalog description links though.

 Is this it?  :http://wiki.osgeo.org/index.php/Canadian_Geodata, not
 exactly obvious from the previous page if you ask me.

 Ok, this is a neat idea, but shouldn't there be one spot with a copy
 of the data someplace, even just a subset of smaller datasets would
 start folks going.   It would make it much easier to get started on
 participation.
 I only was aware of the data loaded into the PostGIS database there;
 you can access the database to rip it out onto your machine. But it
 sounds like the data is available separately at the link Dave Patton
 described:
 - http://wiki.osgeo.org/index.php/Canadian_Geodata

 We should edit the wiki to make this more obvious,
 Jody


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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Data for the Integration Showcase

2007-08-23 Thread Justin Deoliveira
Ahh... I see... apologies, I got lost in the various topics of this
thread :).

-Justin

Bob Basques wrote:
  Justin,
 
 I was trying to set up a standalone install.  I was the one confused to
 start wit, sorry about that.
 
 This stand alone service I was thinking about would simply display the
 data in our application as a demonstrator.
 
 I'm not attending the conference either.  Having a standalone interface
 has some promotional advantages on this end.
 
 bobb
 
 
 
 Justin Deoliveira wrote:
 Hi Bob,

 I think I may be getting confused now too... is there a reason you cant
 just hit one of the layers that is currently set up in the refractions
 database? If none of those layers work for you we can work on finding a
 dataset that will.

 -Justin

 Bob Basques wrote:
   
 All,

 Was only trying to set up a web service that I presumed could be listed
 somewhere that would demo our Client with the data that was described, I
 can download the data myself too. 
 Having a DB dump from the PostGIS side, even with some small sub-area
 would work too.  This is just a thought though from my end.

 I'll go and download what I can and see what I can get up and running,
 maybe do a couple of layers first, then come back to the list for
 reaction on it to that point, before going to hard at it.

 Thanks everyone.

 bobb



 Dave Patton wrote:
 
 Jody Garnett wrote:
   
 Bob Basques wrote:
 
 Jody,

 Ok, I must be dense, I don't see a link to any data anywhere on this
 page: http://wiki.osgeo.org/index.php/FOSS4G2007_IntegrationShowcase
 A lot of reference and catalog description links though.

 Is this it?  :http://wiki.osgeo.org/index.php/Canadian_Geodata, not
 exactly obvious from the previous page if you ask me.

 Ok, this is a neat idea, but shouldn't there be one spot with a copy
 of the data someplace, even just a subset of smaller datasets would
 start folks going.   It would make it much easier to get started on
 participation.
   
 I only was aware of the data loaded into the PostGIS database there;
 you can access the database to rip it out onto your machine. But it
 sounds like the data is available separately at the link Dave Patton
 described:
 - http://wiki.osgeo.org/index.php/Canadian_Geodata
 
 The proper place to get the original data is via the
 links on the Canadian Geodata wiki page.

 All of that data was acquired by myself, Jason, and Justin,
 and all of it has physically been loaded onto the server
 that Justin is managing, which hosts the Integration Showcase.

 Not all of the loaded data is yet available via services on
 the Integration Showcase server. That's the whole point - until
 all the participants in the showcase 'add their piece', you
 won't see the complete picture.

 Going back to Jody's original point - if you want to be able
 to show your software, on your laptop, using the same data
 as is available on the Integration Showcase server, then your
 best bet is to download the data yourself from the original
 data source(s).

 It's a different proposition if you want to use your software,
 on your laptop, to access data/services that are available
 via the Integration Showcase server. For that, you need to
 coordinate with Justin.

   
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