Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo AUTH compare to OSM

2022-11-24 Thread Sandro Santilli via Discuss
On Wed, Nov 23, 2022 at 08:31:29AM +1100, Brad Hards via Discuss wrote:

> Can you explain what you see as the organisational link between OSM and 
> OSGeo? 
> 
> I understand why you want to avoid FB for OSM, but not what you think OSGeo 
> (including the SAC) should do about it.

One thing OSGeo could do is allow every OSGeo UserID to
login via OpenID to services accepting that (like OSM).

A 6-years old ticket to request such functionality is
already in place: https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/ticket/1824

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Mantra request

2022-01-18 Thread Sandro Santilli via Discuss
On Tue, Jan 18, 2022 at 09:51:04AM +0100, Evrard Arthur via Discuss wrote:
>Hello everyone,
> 
>I would like to share a new QGIS plugin but I'm blocked at the "get
>mantra" step...
> 
>Can anyone give me some hint ? (email send yesterday to
>mantra-requ...@osgeo.org but no respond yet).

Hi Evrard, this would have probably been better asked on qgis
developers mailing list, anyway you should have received the
mantra by now (check your spam folder if you didn't).

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Mirroring Subversion repositories to Git

2020-05-12 Thread Sandro Santilli
On Mon, May 11, 2020 at 07:49:20PM +, Martin-Louis Bright wrote:
> Thanks for the link to the Gitea site. I'm interested in the following 
> projects:
> 
> https://svn.osgeo.org/mapguide/
> https://svn.osgeo.org/fdo/
> https://svn.osgeo.org/metacrs/csmap/

suggest you ask on the mailing lists of each of those projects.

Usually contact information can be found on the corresponding
trac instance (if you don't have another known official website
address):

  https://trac.osgeo.org/mapguide
  https://trac.osgeo.org/fdo
  https://trac.osgeo.org/csmap (found from https://trac.osgeo.org/metacrs)

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Mirroring Subversion repositories to Git

2020-05-11 Thread Sandro Santilli
On Mon, May 11, 2020 at 07:31:23PM +, Martin-Louis Bright wrote:
> Hi!
> 
> Is there a Git mirror for the repositories hosted in Subversion at 
> https://svn.osgeo.org/? It would be great if these repositories were on 
> https://github.com/OSGeo.

This is a decision left to each project.
Which projects are you interested in ?
I expect projects with mirrors to advertise them.
Some projects have many mirrors, and many projects
are already under Git without necessarely being
on github (remember github is proprietary software!).

Are you aware of https://git.osgeo.org/gitea ?
You'll find many projects there, either with official
repositories or mirrors, see:

  https://git.osgeo.org/gitea/explore/organizations

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] [Projects] Status report for April - System Contract I 2020

2020-05-06 Thread Sandro Santilli
On Mon, May 04, 2020 at 09:56:21PM -0700, Jody Garnett wrote:

> > Grafana is running on OSGeo3 monitor container -> https://monitor.osgeo.org
> 
> Thanks, I eventually managed to start a dashboard so I could find osgeo3
> again quickly.

Can you check if Dashboards can be shared with other users ?
Because I keep having NO dashboards in the "home" page for dashboards
and only see some of them in the "manage" page, were every dashboard
seems to be attached to exactly one of the hosts. I guess it must be
possible to have a single dashboard showing "health" of all OSGeo
services instead ?

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] [SAC] wiki.osgeo.org has moved to osgeo7 from wiki.osgeo.osuosl.org VM

2019-09-15 Thread Sandro Santilli
On Sun, Sep 15, 2019 at 01:56:06AM -0400, Regina Obe wrote:
> Just an FYI -- wiki.osgeo.org is completely on osgeo7 now (it's an image of 
> the old server, wiki.osgeo.osuosl.org  converted to an lxd container)

Thank you Regina, great work !

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] How big is OSGeo?

2019-09-09 Thread Sandro Santilli
On Fri, Sep 06, 2019 at 03:07:06PM +0100, Jo Cook wrote:
> Hi All,
> 
> I was wondering if anyone has recently attempted to estimate the size
> (in people) of OSGeo?

Registered OSGeo Users (www.osgeo.org/osgeo_userid) at the moment
are 21,744. You can see number of new registrations per year from:

  https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/VisibilityStats#Number_of_registrations_per_year

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[OSGeo-Discuss] librttopo 1.1.0 released

2019-07-27 Thread Sandro Santilli
Version 1.1.0 of the RT Topology Libarry is ready for download:

  http://download.osgeo.org/librttopo/src/librttopo-1.1.0.tar.gz

The RT Topology Library exposes an API to create and manage standard
(ISO 13249 aka SQL/MM) topologies using user-provided data stores and
released under the GNU GPL license (version 2 or later).

More info can be found from

   https://git.osgeo.org/gitea/rttopo/librttopo

=== What's new in this release ===

Important / Breaking Changes:

 - Support for tolerance/precision=0 added, -1 is the new value
   for automatic computation of minimal tolerance.

 - The getEdgeWithinBox2D backend callback needs to support a NULL
   value as BBOX pointer (to return all edges)

New Features:

 - Function `rtt_AddLineNoFace`, to add lines w/out determining new
   faces (WARNING: leaves topology in an invalid state)

 - Function `rtt_Polygonize`, to determine all faces generated by
   existing edges.

 - Function `rtt_tpsnap`, to snap linear components of a geometry
   to edges of a topology.


Happy packaging !

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] PlanetOSGeo revamp

2019-04-04 Thread Sandro Santilli
On Mon, Feb 05, 2018 at 02:39:33PM +0100, Jorge Sanz wrote:

> Please take a look and let me know if you see anything you'd like to
> address:
> 
> http://planet.osgeo.org/new_planet/

I like the way posts are short :)
But I wanted to move past Feb 20 and didn't find a link to
"show more"

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] [SAC] Flickr FOSS4G and OSGeo photo history deadline Feb 5th

2019-01-27 Thread Sandro Santilli
Jody wrote:
> Q: Can we throw the images on OSGeo next cloud?

On Sat, Jan 26, 2019 at 12:47:16PM -0500, Regina Obe wrote:
> Yes – We have 16terabytes of space (of I think 8 TB is usable if it's in a 
> RAID config of some sort) 

How about using a more focused service for that ?
MediaGobling comes to mind:
https://mediagoblin.org/

PS: Regina please find a way to do proper quoting,
reading your replies makes my head heavy :(

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Fwd: OSGeo Board nomination: Angelos Tzotsos

2018-11-07 Thread Sandro Santilli
On Tue, Nov 06, 2018 at 11:26:04PM +0200, Vasile Craciunescu wrote:
> Forwarding nomination of Angelos Tzotsos by Astrid Emde. The Board
> Nominations page has been updated:
> https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Board_Member_Nominations_2018

Seconding Angelos nomination. He's very active on welcoming
new OSGeo users looking for a mantra :)

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] okay foss4g time to move off of Flickr

2018-11-05 Thread Sandro Santilli
On Mon, Nov 05, 2018 at 03:02:54PM +0100, Manuel Grizonnet wrote:
> if hosting the service ourselves is not an option there is also the solution
> for OSGeo to pay 4.17$/month to Flickr to have unlimited storage:

Hosting the service ourselves IS an option, we just need to provide
some resources to that. Mediagobling sounds like a perfect match:
https://mediagoblin.org/

I suggest filing a ticket for SAC to deal with.
Do you have an idea about the amount of space needed ?

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] PlanetOSGeo revamp

2018-03-05 Thread Sandro Santilli
On Sat, Mar 03, 2018 at 06:33:21PM +0100, Jorge Sanz wrote:
> 
> https://planet.osgeo.org/new_planet/

It is weird that the "Read more..." link is at the top of
the excerpt rather than below, can it be moved ?

Is it possible to avoid embedded images ? Or the posts
from gvSIG "International call for gvSIG Association
products/services distributors " comes with a huge image.

Last issue I see is the presence of non-english posts,
but I don't think you can do anything for them at the
planet configuration side.

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Service Provider Directory down?

2018-02-08 Thread Sandro Santilli
On Mon, Feb 05, 2018 at 11:19:12AM -0600, James Klassen wrote:
> On Feb 5, 2018 09:43, "Luí­s Moreira de Sousa" 
> wrote:
> > what happened to the Service Provider Directory? The wiki is presently
> > pointing to http://www.osgeo.org/search_profile , but that is a dead
> > link. Is the directory really down, or it is just a URL glitch?
>
> I think it got moved here with the website update.
> 
> https://www.osgeo.org/service-providers/

Could any of you file a ticket on https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo
("website" component) so to fix any broken incoming link ?

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] PlanetOSGeo revamp

2018-02-08 Thread Sandro Santilli
On Mon, Feb 05, 2018 at 02:39:33PM +0100, Jorge Sanz wrote:

> Please take a look and let me know if you see anything you'd like to
> address:
> 
> http://planet.osgeo.org/new_planet/

Thanks for taking this task !
One thing that I found annoying in the old planet and is still
present in the new one is having full articles dumped on the page.

I'd rather just see short summaries for each, so that I can
see more titles in less scrolling. A click to read all article
doesn't seem too much work, if the title and short summary is
interesting.

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Website 15th relaunch - members and local chapters

2018-01-12 Thread Sandro Santilli
On Fri, Jan 12, 2018 at 09:16:32AM +, b.j.kob...@utwente.nl wrote:
> Well, I created an OSGEO Userid, now let's hope it gets OKd ;-)
> 
> By the way, on the creation page it states "OSGeo user IDs provide access to 
> many OSGeo services, including bug trackers and wikis. " You'd probably want 
> to change that as I now understand the Wiki is the thing NOT included...?

Trac also provide wikis, maybe that's what the text refers too.
The whole "including ..." part may be removed though, as
there's a comprensive list below.

Do you have privileges to edit that page, on the staging website ?

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Website 15th relaunch - members and local chapters

2018-01-11 Thread Sandro Santilli
On Thu, Jan 11, 2018 at 07:15:50AM -0800, Jody Garnett wrote:

> I am not sure how getting access to the OSGeo wiki works, but all these
> students have been doing it so I hope it is automated.

There's an approval system in there as well, only different :(

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] registering at OSGeo

2017-12-08 Thread Sandro Santilli
On Fri, Dec 08, 2017 at 02:18:16PM +, Nagy Edmond wrote:
> I've made a GRASS add-on and eventually hope to share it within the
> community, and get feedback from users, but obtaining a user id is
> a prerequisite.
>
> If anyone knows a good way of getting one, I would very much appreciate it.

The best way to share it would be to publish it somewhere and
announcing it on the GRASS developers and/or users mailing lists.

Showing the code would also be useful to obtain the mantra.

Your mantra request mail arrived correctly and will be handled
shortly, I guess the bulk-reply you got was coming from some of
the recipients of that email alias, maybe suspicious of @yahoo.com
accounts...

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] [Projects] [OSGeo-Live] Moving to Transifex - step 2 - Battle testing

2017-10-24 Thread Sandro Santilli
On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 10:05:05PM +0200, Nicolas Roelandt wrote:

> Some of us also had worked on transifex for other FOSS projects, so we had
> this knowledge to help us set up the whole process.

Yep, that's the "drug trap" as I call it.
It's the reason why Microsoft is "donating" licenses to schools.
Also the danger of GitHub.

Don't learn too much !

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] [Projects] [OSGeo-Live] Moving to Transifex - step 2 - Battle testing

2017-10-24 Thread Sandro Santilli
On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 07:38:00AM +0200, Nicolas Roelandt wrote:

> Transifex will hugely simplify and improve the sustainability of our
> translation experience (over our previous manual spreadsheet / git / .rst
> process).
> 
> It offers machine translation.
> It provides a review process.
> It shows us what is changed in the English doc version.
> It shows translation progress

Sorry to mention as I understand it took a long time to set this up,
but I'd add an additional point, that since 2013:

  - It is proprietary software

From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transifex:

>> Transifex itself was originally an open source project, but the
>> development of an open source version of the software was discontinued
>> in 2013. [3][4]

More info:
https://github.com/transifex/transifex/issues/206#issuecomment-15243207

A possible alternative owuld be Weblate:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weblate (GPLv3+)
The developers offer hosting plans (including gratis for free software):
https://weblate.org/en/hosting/

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Proprietary GIS on our OSGeo website

2017-09-21 Thread Sandro Santilli
On Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 09:10:52PM +0200, Even Rouault wrote:

> Sandro mentionned GIMP's "like Photoshop, only better" motto but on
> https://www.gimp.org/ no mention of Photoshop I could find

They must have received a call from lawyers.
But I'm sure I didn't dream that motto, or if I did, I was not the
only one: http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~srv/tools.html

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Add your avatar to wiki pages

2017-09-21 Thread Sandro Santilli
On Thu, Sep 21, 2017 at 09:42:48AM -0300, Jeff McKenna wrote:
> Hi everyone!
> 
> Have some geek fun and magically add your avatar (from Gravatar/Libravatar
> services) to your OSGeo wiki pages.  The wiki syntax is:
> 
>

Actually this is even easier with the updated User template [1]:
just fill in the "Email" field and, i you didn't explicitly
specify a "Photo" field, the "Email" field will be used to retrive
an Avatar using the "Libravatar" protocol, which implies:

 - Ask the DNS database if your mail domain has an associated
   avatar service, and use that if so (it is the case for me)

 - Failing the above, ask libravatar.org for the avatar associated
   to your email fingerprint (you can upload a picture there:
   https://www.libravatar.org/)

 - If you hadn't uploaded a picture on libravatar.org, it will
   fallback to gravatar (some of you may know gravatar from
   elsewhere)

NOTE: the same process above is the one used to display avatars
for Gogs users here: https://git.osgeo.org/gogs/explore/users/

The idea of "libre avatar" is that you can be in control of
serving your own avatar.

[1] https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Template:OSGeo_Member

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] [Marketing] Proprietary GIS on our OSGeo website

2017-09-21 Thread Sandro Santilli
On Wed, Sep 20, 2017 at 08:33:05PM -0700, Jody Garnett wrote:

> How much of your initial concern was providing a link? Or is it just
> displaying the name (switching to MapInfo for the example here). It would
> be kind of nice if the it behaved like a keyword, and linked to the project
> page short listing all the projects that one can migrate to from MapInfo.

It's different degrees of annoyance. I guess a brand-less and
link-less list of names of proprietary products would not be too
"offensive" for me (assuming spam filtering lets it pass) but I'd
still prefer an hidden keyword. Something that you never see written
but is recognized by the search engine to give you back a similar
software: you search for  you get .

The "like Photoshop, only better" motto I like even when it contains
the name because it explicitly bashes it :)

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] [Marketing] Proprietary GIS on our OSGeo website

2017-09-20 Thread Sandro Santilli
On Wed, Sep 20, 2017 at 01:19:48PM -0700, Jody Garnett wrote:

> The reason I want to keep the names (don't care about the links) is address
> the needs of non-commuity website visitors. To answer the question "I use
> XXX, how can you help me?"

As I wrote on the ticket already, I like the idea of answering such
question, but having the XXX name on each page does not answer it
because it would require people to know the answer before asking the
question.

How hard would it be to turn those XXX into keywords so that the
a search for "XXX" returns related project pages ?

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Fwd: Nomination Cristina Domínguez

2017-08-31 Thread Sandro Santilli
+1 for Cristina --strk;

On Wed, Aug 30, 2017 at 09:24:52PM -0400, Jorge Sanz wrote:
> +1 Jorge
> 
> Cristina is a super active member of our community in Seville
> 
> --
> Jorge Sanz
> 
> Sent from my phone, excuse my brevity.
> 
> El 30 ago. 2017 20:06, "Vasile Craciunescu" 
> escribió:
> 
> > Forwarding Cristina Domínguez nomination by María Arias de Reyna. The 2017
> > member nominations list will be updated ASAP [1].
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Vasile & Jeff
> > 2017 OSGeo Elections CROs
> >
> > [1] https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/New_Member_Nominations_2017
> >
> >
> >  Forwarded Message 
> > Subject: Nomination Cristina Domínguez
> > Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2017 13:08:04 +0200
> > From: María Arias de Reyna 
> > To: CRO , Cristina Domínguez 
> >
> > I want to nominate Cristina Domínguez, in cc.
> >
> > Cristina is a Technical Engineer in Topography. She started using
> > gvSIG in 2010 and since then she has been a prominent user in many
> > OsGeo software: qGIS, OpenLayers, Leaflet, GeoNetwork, GeoServer,
> > postGIS,... She is an active OSM user since 2014.
> >
> > Cristina is also part of the GeoInquietos group in Sevilla and has
> > participated and organizaed many local and regional geo events,
> > usually related to foss and open data like mapping parties.
> >
> >
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Fwd: Nominating Tom Chadwin for OSGeo Charter Membership

2017-08-29 Thread Sandro Santilli
On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 04:26:27PM +0200, Moritz Lennert wrote:
> On 29/08/17 05:14, Vasile Craciunescu wrote:
> > Dear Moritz,
> > 
> > According with the rules, Tom's nomination, as any other nomination,
> > require at least one second vote.
> 
> Then here's my second. :-)

Here's mine for Tom Chadwin !

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[OSGeo-Discuss] Nominating Björn Harrtell as an OSGeo charter member

2017-08-25 Thread Sandro Santilli
I would like to nominate Björn Harrtell for OSGeo charter membership.

Björn is a PostGIS committer, contributor of OpenLayers, GeoTools and
JTS, author of the JavaScript JTS port (http://bjornharrtell.github.io/jsts/)

He recently setup and still takes care of the experimental OSGeo/GitLab
server: http://bjornharrtell.github.io/jsts/; provides a Drone
agent for the experimental OSGeo/Gogs CI (https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Drone)

You might know him as `bj0rn[m]` on IRC

Wiki page: https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/User:Bjornharrtell

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Non-precise framing can hurt the community

2017-08-18 Thread Sandro Santilli
On Fri, Aug 18, 2017 at 12:53:47PM -0400, Marc Vloemans wrote:

> GPL is approved by OSI, just like the EPL. We are on the same team. The word 
> 'against' suggests we are at odds with each other over this. Which we are 
> not, never have been and never will be.

Do you accept GPL covered software projects in your foundation ?

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Note the LocationTech badge is not showing correctly

2017-08-18 Thread Sandro Santilli
On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 09:19:52PM +0200, Helmut Kudrnovsky wrote:

> Will locationtech also promote OSGeo projects?

This is an interesting question, especially as LocationTech is
against GPL-licensed projects (like GRASS, QGIS, PostGIS)

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] [FOSS4G EU 2017] Presentations on OSGeo's gogs

2017-08-07 Thread Sandro Santilli
On Mon, Aug 07, 2017 at 12:21:57PM +, Didier Richard wrote:

> https://git.osgeo.org/gogs/foss4g-europe/foss4g-europe-2017-paris

Wow, embedded PDFs, I'm loving it !
Thanks a lot for this

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[OSGeo-Discuss] [PHISHING] Important Notice To All Amazon Customers

2017-08-06 Thread Sandro Santilli

FYI: a ticket has been created to address preventing these kind
of phishing attacks: https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/ticket/1980#ticket
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo website/rebranding July Update

2017-08-02 Thread Sandro Santilli
On Mon, Jul 31, 2017 at 11:22:37PM -0500, Vicky Vergara wrote:
> Hi Jody
> Of course, but a lesson first so 
> I signed to the OSGeo Website code sprint in Boston, unfortunately I wont
> be in person, but IRC (or if someone has skype to use video can make it
> easier)

Speaking of which, it would be nice to add some free places in the
"find us" section at the bottom-right corner of those pages, right
now listing facebook, linkedin and twitter accounts.

How about adding a link to the Matrix room #osgeo:matrix.org for
a start ? http://matrix.to/#/#osgeo:matrix.org

Even better to also have presence on one node in the so-called
"fediverse" (Mastodon, GNUSocial, Diaspora and friends...) but
that requires more than just a link...

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[OSGeo-Discuss] GEOS-3.6.2 released

2017-07-25 Thread Sandro Santilli
Second patch release in the 3.6 branch has just been released:

  http://download.osgeo.org/geos/geos-3.6.2.tar.bz2 (1.9MB)
  MD5: a32142343c93d3bf151f73db3baa651f
  GIT commit: 4d2925d6e0c758742a178053132eef02cd8374d2 (tag 3.6.2)

Bug fixes and improvements since previous release:

  - Fix exception in UnaryUnion of collection of touching polygons (#837)
  - Allow building against python 3 (#774)
  - Fix build with android-ndk and other compilers (#799)
  - Allows compiling with -Wpointer-bool-conversion (#638)
  - Fix unhandled exception on invalid fp operation (#811)
  - Fix overloaded virtual print in DirectedEdge* (#812)
  - AppVeyor CI build added (#813)
  - Clean up numerous MSVC warnings, notably C4275 and C4589 (#814)
  - Bump CMake version to 3.0.0 (#817)
  - Fix leaks in WKT parser (#830)

Please report any new bug on:

  https://trac.osgeo.org/geos

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] new official MapServer twitter account

2017-07-22 Thread Sandro Santilli
On Sat, Jul 22, 2017 at 10:51:28AM +0200, Jeff McKenna wrote:

> The MapServer team here has created a new twitter account for updates from
> the MapServer project: please share! https://twitter.com/mapserver_osgeo

Please make sure MapServer team mebers are aware of open twitter
alternatives, to let people follow them using standard based agents.

One modern such alternative: https://mastodon.social/
 see https://mastodon.social/tags/gis for a federated tag search
 and https://mastodon.social/@Gargron for an example profile

NOTE: anyone can setup a node in the federation, and it is compatible
  with the somewhat older GNUSocial protocol.

Source code: https://github.com/tootsuite/mastodon

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo website/rebranding May Update

2017-06-09 Thread Sandro Santilli
On Fri, Jun 09, 2017 at 03:10:39PM +0100, Steven Feldman wrote:
> Puzzled
> 
> We accept sponsorship from Google, we mentor students and are listed for 
> their Summer of Code but using a Google Form to easily collect data should be 
> avoided.
> 
> Is it official OSGeo policy to not use Google tools?

No, it's my personal invite to avoid vendor lockin, which is one of
the reasons why people in this community prefer free software over
proprietary counterparts.

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo website/rebranding May Update

2017-06-09 Thread Sandro Santilli
On Thu, Jun 08, 2017 at 10:15:18AM +0100, Steven Feldman wrote:
> An alternative is to make the score card as  `Google Form and then embed that 
> in a page - that gives us a nice spreadsheet as the ‘back end’ without any 
> extra effort

Please let's try to exist independently from Google :)

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Wiki: InfrastructurePreferencesStatusQuo - call for update

2017-03-29 Thread Sandro Santilli
On Mon, Mar 27, 2017 at 02:56:16PM -0300, Jeff McKenna wrote:
> On 2017-03-21 12:19 PM, Sandro Santilli wrote:
> >
> >
> >RE: https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/InfrastructurePreferencesStatusQuo
> 
> Yes the FOSS4G-Boston site is in OSGeo Gogs (at
> https://git.osgeo.org/gogs/FOSS4G-Boston-2017/foss4g2017-web); I'll likely
> move that into the main FOSS4G Gogs at some point, with the other
> repositories like video etc. (https://git.osgeo.org/gogs/foss4g).   For
> those of you interested in actually seeing the list of Gogs repositories for
> FOSS4G, see this screen capture: http://pasteboard.co/OxHt5GBfG.png

Would those go under "outreach projects" section of the wiki page ?

> But really the gold standard (and still gets lots of constant love from me)
> is the FOSS4G subversion repository which has archives of FOSS4G files from
> 2017 back to 2003 (https://svn.osgeo.org/osgeo/foss4g/).

Wow, great work !
I wonder if for archives SVN would still be more convenient as a format

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Is it possible for properitery GIS vendor to market thier properitery product as Open ?

2017-03-25 Thread Sandro Santilli
On Sat, Mar 25, 2017 at 12:43:29PM +0100, Mateusz Loskot wrote:

> without a secret, there is no technology advancement

I think this is a purely ideological position.

Secrets can generate all kind of deseases, if you ask me :)

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Wiki: InfrastructurePreferencesStatusQuo - call for update

2017-03-21 Thread Sandro Santilli
On Mon, Mar 20, 2017 at 09:56:49PM +0100, Mateusz Loskot wrote:
> On 20 March 2017 at 21:02, Cameron Shorter  wrote:
> > I've added a line for OSGeo-Live
> 
> FYI, I only walked through the ones in the "OSGeo Projects" frame at 
> osgeo.org.

I think foss4g website (or was it just video?) is also using Gogs.
Jeff ?

RE: https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/InfrastructurePreferencesStatusQuo

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Happy birthday to the community!

2017-02-04 Thread Sandro Santilli
On Sat, Feb 04, 2017 at 10:29:17AM -0400, Jeff McKenna wrote:

> PS. As of 1st February we have 28672 unique subscribers to OSGeo lists!

And 20601 OSGeo User IDs :)

Happy birthday all

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Planned Trac downtime Feb 1 8:30-9:30 UTC

2017-02-01 Thread Sandro Santilli
Trac upgrade was completed. Please report any issue you may encounter
on trac itself if possible (https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/) or to
the SAC mailing list if subscribed 
(https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/sac) or to sysad...@osgeo.org
or via IRC on the Freenode network in the #osgeo channel
(http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=#osgeo)

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On Tue, Jan 31, 2017 at 09:02:06AM +0100, Sandro Santilli wrote:
> Tomorrow morning we'll upgrade the OSGeo Trac service software
> to the recently released version 1.2.
> 
> The upgrade process implies a period of downtime which in the best
> scenario will be of about 10 minutes, but could extend to more in
> case of troubles.
> 
> The scheduled time on major world cities:
> https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=OSGeo+Trac+service+downtime=20170201T0830=1440=1
> 
> During the downtime period you'll be unable to reach trac.osgeo.org
> pages. I hadn't tested but SVN update hooks updating trac *might*
> fail preventing a commit to go through. Just try again after one
> hour if that happens.
> 
> Relevant ticket (but will be unreachable during downtime):
> 
>https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/ticket/1816
> 
> We'll be available on the #osgeo and #telascience IRC channels
> on Freenode network if you want to help with the process.
> 
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> 
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[OSGeo-Discuss] Planned Trac downtime Feb 1 8:30-9:30 UTC

2017-01-31 Thread Sandro Santilli
Tomorrow morning we'll upgrade the OSGeo Trac service software
to the recently released version 1.2.

The upgrade process implies a period of downtime which in the best
scenario will be of about 10 minutes, but could extend to more in
case of troubles.

The scheduled time on major world cities:
https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=OSGeo+Trac+service+downtime=20170201T0830=1440=1

During the downtime period you'll be unable to reach trac.osgeo.org
pages. I hadn't tested but SVN update hooks updating trac *might*
fail preventing a commit to go through. Just try again after one
hour if that happens.

Relevant ticket (but will be unreachable during downtime):

   https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/ticket/1816

We'll be available on the #osgeo and #telascience IRC channels
on Freenode network if you want to help with the process.

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[OSGeo-Discuss] geos-3.6.1 released

2016-12-24 Thread Sandro Santilli
A bugfix release of the Geometry Engine Open Source (GEOS)
is ready for download:

  http://download.osgeo.org/geos/geos-3.6.1.tar.bz2
  MD5: c97e338b3bc81f9848656e9d693ca6cc

Changes:

  - Bug fixes / improvements
- Fix GEOSSTRtree_nearest_r signature and add implementation (#796)
- Fix --static-clibs and --static-cclibs returns from geos-config
- Fix WKB representation of empty polygon (#680).
- Fix empty GEOSSimplify return on inner ring collapse (#741)

Note that the PHP binding of GEOS are now released separately,
from a package which is at his 1.0.0 release too since today:
https://git.osgeo.org/gogs/geos/php-geos/releases

More info about GEOS can be read on https://geos.osgeo.org

As usual, shall you find any bug in the code please file it on
the bug tracker ( https://trac.osgeo.org/geos ) or report it on
the mailing list ( https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/geos-devel ).

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[OSGeo-Discuss] GEOS-3.5.1 released

2016-10-25 Thread Sandro Santilli
Release 3.5.1 of GEOS is available:

   http://download.osgeo.org/geos/geos-3.5.1.tar.bz2
   MD5: 2e3e1ccbd42fee9ec427106b65e43dc0
 
This is a bugfix release, containing these fixes/improvements:

  - Fix CMake configuration to allow build from released sources
package (#753)
  - Fix memory leaks in single-sided buffers (#747), PlanarGraph and
tests
  - Fix GeometryEditor to correctly update factory of empty geometries
(#749)
  - Fix snapping of last segment of a closed linestring (#758)
  - Fix memory exhaustion case in isvalid (#757)
  - Fix Windows build with Visual Studio 2008 (#766)
  - Fix incorrect return from prepared multipoint intersects (#764)
  - Fix build against GCC 3.5.0+ (#784)
 
Enjoy !

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[OSGeo-Discuss] GEOS-3.6.0 released

2016-10-25 Thread Sandro Santilli
Release 3.6.0 of GEOS is available:

  http://download.osgeo.org/geos/geos-3.6.0.tar.bz2
  MD5: 55de5fdf075c608d2d7b9348179ee649

Changes since 3.5.0:

  - Important / Breaking Changes:
- The PHP binding moved to its own repository:
  http://git.osgeo.org/gogs/geos/php-geos (#765)
  - New things:
- CAPI: GEOSGeom_{get,set}UserData (Rashad Kanavath)
- CAPI: GEOSGeom_{set,get}Precision (#713)
- CAPI: GEOSMinimumRotatedRectangle and GEOSMinimumWidth
  (#729, Nyall Dawson)
- CAPI: GEOSSTRtree_nearest (#768, Dan Baston)
- CAPI: GEOSMinimumClearance and GEOSMinimumClearanceLine
  (#776, Dan Baston)
  - C++ API changes:
- Automatic memory management for GeometryFactory objects

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] https on 2017.foss4g.org

2016-10-09 Thread Sandro Santilli
On Sun, Oct 09, 2016 at 01:29:02AM +, Guido Stein wrote:
> Sandro,
> 
> can you please put a ticket into SAC for this. I will be happy to work with
> them on this.

Done: https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/ticket/1798

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[OSGeo-Discuss] https on 2017.foss4g.org

2016-10-08 Thread Sandro Santilli
Could the 2017.foss4g.org website be made available in https too ?
Failing to do so results in browser warnings upon visiting a web
page that contains the foss4g 2017 banner, like this:

 https://trac.osgeo.org/postgis/

It's gratis and easy (and worth learning) to do it via letsencrypt:
https://letsencrypt.org/


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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Candidate Statement for Jeffrey Johnson

2016-09-25 Thread Sandro Santilli
On Sun, Sep 25, 2016 at 08:59:05AM -0700, Jeffrey Johnson wrote:

> Happy to answer any questions here or via other channels. Can we have
> a hangout 'debate'? :)

If you do, please use a free software alternative, not "hangout".
Here's one: https://meet.jit.si/osgeo

Or even better (requires less resources to partecipate):
  irc://irc.freenode.net/#osgeo
  also accessible (same place) as:
  https://webchat.freenode.net/#osgeo
  or
  https://kiwiirc.com/client/irc.freenode.net/#osgeo

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Fwd: Nomination for Luigi Pirelli

2016-07-20 Thread Sandro Santilli
On Wed, Jul 20, 2016 at 03:16:04PM +0300, Vasile Craciunescu wrote:
> Forwarding Luigi Pirelli nomination by Yves Jacolin.

+1 for Luigi

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Fwd: Nomination for Matthias Kuhn

2016-07-20 Thread Sandro Santilli
On Wed, Jul 20, 2016 at 01:25:03PM +0300, Vasile Craciunescu wrote:
> Forwarding Matthias Kuhn nomination by Vincent Picavet.

Seconded

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Is website commettee alive ?

2016-07-19 Thread Sandro Santilli
Hi Jody, thanks for getting back to me.

On Tue, Jul 19, 2016 at 09:06:44AM -0700, Jody Garnett wrote:
> I have joined the website committee / mailing list and they have been
> responsive for updating the website. If you would like access I am sure you
> can join the committee and volunteer?

Sure, what does it take ?
I expressed my willingness to help in the ticket, but got no answer.
Could I get one on the ticket (so we don't make too much noise
on this mailing list).

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[OSGeo-Discuss] Is website commettee alive ?

2016-07-19 Thread Sandro Santilli
I've noticed a problem in a website page and filed a ticket
for it: https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/ticket/1733

The ticket got no feedback in 4 weeks.

The ticket content was also automatically sent to the 
WebCom mailing list:
https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/webcom/2016-June/002412.html

This mail is my attempt to reach a broader audience in case
someone with website privileges is not reading the mailing
list.

I'd be happy to fix the webpage myself but I'd need permissions
to do that (there's no "edit" button when I look at the page).

So, is anyone from the Web Commettee reading this / active ?

Thanks in advance

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Mantra for creating user id

2016-06-30 Thread Sandro Santilli
On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 10:01:18PM +0200, Pelle Rosenbeck Gøeg wrote:
> I need the mantra for signing up at
> https://www.osgeo.org/cgi-bin/ldap_create_user.py

Please don't use this mailing list for similar requests.
I've updated the user registration page to mention the sysadmin
email address, which is the correct one for these kind of requests.

Sysadmins in Cc, please keep the thread off the discuss list.

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[OSGeo-Discuss] #osgeo- channels on freenode

2016-06-23 Thread Sandro Santilli
As I noticed localized osgeo talk on Freenode happens on channels
with hard-to-guess names (#gfoss for italian, #fossgis for german)
I'm wondering what would it take to have "official" osgeo channels
with format #osgeo-.

I know Freenode does support a wildcard-like channel registration
so that #osgeo- follows some general permissions, does
anyone know more about that ?

Freenode also supports automatic redirection, so eventually all
currently known channel names could be automatically redirected
to the new, more consistent, naming.

Anyone has experience with that ?

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Mantra Request (OSgeoID)

2016-05-21 Thread Sandro Santilli
On Fri, May 20, 2016 at 07:14:51PM +, Jason M Wheatley wrote:
> I need a mantra so I can submit QGIS issues please! Thank you!

For the record: Jason had already an account, I'm handling it with
private communications.

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Adding "wiki" component to osgeo trac ?

2016-05-19 Thread Sandro Santilli
On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 06:21:47PM +0200, Christian Willmes wrote:
> +1
> 
> Yes, sounds like a good Idea to give an opportunity for requesting
> features and reporting bugs.

Great.
Component added and some tickets moved to it (for testing).
I'm not sure you'll receive notifications, due to
https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/ticket/1671, do you ?

There are many more tickets that belong to the "Wiki" component.
This is a list of all the ones with "wiki" in the title, in case
you want to move some to the new component:
https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/query?status=assigned=new=reopened=~wiki=id=summary=status=type=priority=milestone=component=priority

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Mantra request (OsgeoID)

2016-05-19 Thread Sandro Santilli
On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 06:27:16PM +0200, Johan Van de Wauw wrote:
> Maybe the mantra should be posted to this list with a link to this
> discussion. I'm quite sure that blocks most spam and removes a barrier to
> reporting a bug/contributing.
> 
> Now people have to register for the mailinglist, confirm. Ask for a pw.
> Wait for it. Register. Confirm ...

You can also ask for the mantra on IRC, with no registration
required there. Or (we could add this info to the page) people
may ask for the mantra to someone from the project they are
registering to contribute to.

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[OSGeo-Discuss] Adding "wiki" component to osgeo trac ?

2016-05-19 Thread Sandro Santilli
How about adding a "wiki" component to osgeo trac and
give ownership to Christian ?

Would you find that useful, Chris ?
Theoretically you would be automatically assigned the tickets
in that component.

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Mantra request (OsgeoID)

2016-05-19 Thread Sandro Santilli
On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 03:29:05PM +0200, Frank Olieu wrote:

> I need a mantra to create an OsgeoID.

FYI: mantra sent via private email.

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[OSGeo-Discuss] librttopo-1.0.0 released

2016-05-19 Thread Sandro Santilli
Release 1.0.0 of librttopo is ready for download:
http://download.osgeo.org/librttopo/src/librttopo-1.0.0.tar.gz
(MD5 31b0c3fd80e92fc7a68ba16006aeba8b)

This is the first public release of the library.

The RT Topology Library exposes an API to create and manage standard
(ISO 13249 aka SQL/MM) topologies using user-provided data stores
released under the GNU GPL license (version 2 or later).

The code is derived from [PostGIS](http://postgis.net) liblwgeom
library enhanced to provide thread-safety, have less dependencies
and be independent from PostGIS release cycles.

The RT Topology Library was funded by "Regione Toscana - SITA"
(CIG: 6445512CC1), which also funded many improvements in the
originating liblwgeom.

Official code repository is:
https://git.osgeo.org/gogs/rttopo/librttopo.

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Mantra request

2016-05-18 Thread Sandro Santilli
On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 08:08:14AM +0200, Alessandro Isastia wrote:

> I need a mantra to report a bug in nViz in Grass latest release.

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo Userid registration - Full Name and Surname ?

2016-05-17 Thread Sandro Santilli
On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 07:47:53AM -0700, Frank Warmerdam wrote:
> Strk,
> 
> It was a direct transcription of the fields in LDAP.  No harm in
> changing it I imagine.

Any idea about the "givenName" field, which is present in some
LDAP records but isn't prompted for in the form ?

It's hard to change with when half the people used it in a way
and the other half in another :/

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo Userid registration - Full Name and Surname ?

2016-05-17 Thread Sandro Santilli
It looks like being a common issue:
https://github.com/nijel/weblate/issues/812

How about just dropping one of the fields ?

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> I'm wondering why do we ask for "Full Name" and "Surname"
> in the user registration form. I find it confusing, and a
> quick look at the LDAP database shows it's not just me:
> about half the registered users put the "given name" in the
> "Full Name" field.
> 
> Some users also have a registered "givenName" field, while
> others do not.
> 
> So, which way is the correct way ?
> 
> I could improve the form by giving instructions, but I need
> those instructions myself ...
> 
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[OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo Userid registration - Full Name and Surname ?

2016-05-17 Thread Sandro Santilli
I'm wondering why do we ask for "Full Name" and "Surname"
in the user registration form. I find it confusing, and a
quick look at the LDAP database shows it's not just me:
about half the registered users put the "given name" in the
"Full Name" field.

Some users also have a registered "givenName" field, while
others do not.

So, which way is the correct way ?

I could improve the form by giving instructions, but I need
those instructions myself ...

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Recovering OSGeo account password

2016-05-14 Thread Sandro Santilli
On Sat, May 14, 2016 at 10:31:32AM -0700, Zan Strausz wrote:

> Not sure who to contact to help with recovering access to my
> account, there seems to be no password recovery enabled in the login
> page.  Got this list address from account registration page
> (https://www2.osgeo.org/cgi-bin/ldap_create_user.py)

I handled this (from your IRC mention).
Please Zan let me know if everything is fine now.

> Sorry to bother,  :>(

No problem, we're not github or one of those others big corporations
with no time for users :P

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] [SoC] OSGeo user id

2016-05-12 Thread Sandro Santilli
Hi Mayank,

On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 03:12:08PM +0530, Mayank Agrawal wrote:

> I am Mayank Agrawal and I am participating in the GSoC this year with
> Grass. For creating a wiki in https://trac.osgeo.org/grass/wiki/GSoC#a2016
> , I need a OSGeo userid but this link
> https://www.osgeo.org/cgi-bin/ldap_create_user.py for creating id is under
> maintenance. Can anyone tell what can be done in this case.

I've re-enabled the form. We're under a mass-registration storm so
please let me know when you're done so I that we could disable it
again (and maybe then add more info about workarounds until we fix
the storm)

Sorry for the inconvenience

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[OSGeo-Discuss] [trac service] inter-trac links enabled

2016-05-08 Thread Sandro Santilli
For those projects that are still using the OSGeo trac,
I've just enabled inter-trac links.

This means you can reference tickets/wikipages/changesets of
any OSGeo project using trac from any other trac instance by
simply prepending the project name in the link, like:

  geos:changeset:2234
  osgeo:#45
  ubuntugis:wiki:WikiStart

The project name is the last portion of the trac entrypoint:

  https://trac.osgeo.org/postgis <--- "postgis"

I hope you'll find it useful. Next step will be figuring out a
way to automatically show the incoming link from the target :)

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Requesting services for librttopo

2016-05-08 Thread Sandro Santilli
Marc, I hadn't seen librttopo added to the wiki page,
is there anything I should do to move this further ?

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On Tue, May 03, 2016 at 10:51:58AM +0200, Sandro Santilli wrote:
> On Tue, May 03, 2016 at 08:38:36AM +0200, Marc Vloemans wrote:
> 
> > @Sandro: which site do you want me to link to?
> 
> There's currently no official website.
> Maybe the closest to that is: https://strk.kbt.io/projects/rttopo
> but if you can help with building a real website (as mentioned
> on the wiki page) that'd be great :)
> 
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[OSGeo-Discuss] Trac Spam filter plugin installed

2016-05-04 Thread Sandro Santilli
I've installed TracSpamPlugin globally and prepared every instance
so that project trac admins can enable the plugin autonomously
(required a database structure upgrade for spam management tables).

See https://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/SpamFilter for usage instructions.

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Somebody is Spamming trac_osgeo4w list

2016-05-03 Thread Sandro Santilli
Quick and temporary "fix" for list admins:
put trac_osge...@osgeo.org in moderation

Quick and temporary "fix" for trac admins:
disable trac creation permission to "authenticated" users.

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On Tue, May 03, 2016 at 03:00:14PM -0400, Alex M wrote:
> Ya we're working on it, it's actually trac spam, not list spam directly.
> It's affecting all trac instances actually. Anyone with Trac Spam
> filtering and LDAP experience please hop over the the Sys Admin Mailing
> list or IRC and offer to help out.
> 
> Thanks,
> Alex
> Sys Admin Committee
> 
> On 05/03/2016 02:48 PM, Abhay wrote:
> > Kind Attn:  List Admins,
> > 
> > Just bring this to notices to list admins it seem the trac_osgeo4w list is
> > bombarded with Spam.. Can list admins take look at it?
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Requesting services for librttopo

2016-05-03 Thread Sandro Santilli
On Tue, May 03, 2016 at 08:38:36AM +0200, Marc Vloemans wrote:

> @Sandro: which site do you want me to link to?

There's currently no official website.
Maybe the closest to that is: https://strk.kbt.io/projects/rttopo
but if you can help with building a real website (as mentioned
on the wiki page) that'd be great :)

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Requesting services for librttopo

2016-05-03 Thread Sandro Santilli
On Mon, May 02, 2016 at 12:00:04PM -0400, Jody Garnett wrote:
> I would ask if the project would consider joining OSGeo as a community
> project ? This
> requirement is minimal, we want some assurance that your project is both
> open source and open to collaboration.

On behalf of the PSC, I confirm we are ok with joining OSGeo as a
community project. Is there any step we need to take to complete
the move ?

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[OSGeo-Discuss] Requesting services for librttopo

2016-05-02 Thread Sandro Santilli
Hi all,
this mail is to request permission to use the download area
of OSGeo for publishing librttopo packages, and possibly
an rttopo.osgeo.org domain and webspace.

The librttopo project consists of a GPL(v2+) licensed library
providing a standard-based topology API on top of user-provided
input/output routines for storage. It was derived from the PostGIS
liblwgeom library at its 2.2.0 version, from which deviated to
drop PostGIS-specific dependencies and add thread-safety (not
of interest for PostGIS proper at this time).

The upcoming 4.4.0 version of Spatialite will be using librttopo
instead of liblwgeom and the aim is to attract other liblwgeom users
(QGIS, for example) so to eventually free PostGIS from the burden of
maintaining a stable liblwgeom API. Having PostGIS itself use
librttopo is currently not on the radar, but might be considered in
the future if librttopo gets more development.

At the moment librttopo code is hosted in the experimental OSGeo
[Gogs service](https://git.osgeo.org/gogs/rttopo/librttopo) and
has an OSGeo hosted [mailing list]
(https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/librttopo-dev)

The project is managed by Andrea Peri of "Regione Toscana" (primary
sponsor for the library), Alessandro Furieri of Spatialite and
myself from PostGIS/GEOS.

Some more background info are available from [my website]
(https://strk.kbt.io/projects/rttopo)

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[OSGeo-Discuss] Requirements for an OSGeo Git service

2016-04-27 Thread Sandro Santilli
Following recent experiment toward the provision of an OSGeo Git
service, I've drafted a page to gather requirements from projects
developers:

   https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/GitServiceRequirement

If you're interested in such a service, please add your name under
an existing requirement line and/or add your own requirements.

The current experiemental git services are described on this page:

   https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/SAC:Git_Service

Thanks in advance.

PS: please forward this mail to your project mailing list, for wider
visibility.

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] where to find logos of OSGeo ?

2016-04-19 Thread Sandro Santilli
On Tue, Apr 19, 2016 at 01:07:38PM +0200, Iván Sánchez Ortega wrote:
> El Martes 19. abril 2016 13.06.36 Sandro Santilli escribió:
> > Is there a page listing all available logos of OSGeo ?
> > I could not find such a page, so reverted to extract logos
> > from existing pages, which is suboptimal when you're looking
> > for a specific size or kind.
> 
> See https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Logo

Thank you.  I think I saw that page, but was surprised to find only
a small set of the available ones. For example the logo used
on the top-left corner of the wiki page itself is not present.

I guess they are in the trac repository, but there's no preview
in there :(

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[OSGeo-Discuss] where to find logos of OSGeo ?

2016-04-19 Thread Sandro Santilli
Is there a page listing all available logos of OSGeo ?
I could not find such a page, so reverted to extract logos
from existing pages, which is suboptimal when you're looking
for a specific size or kind.

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] What would you want from an OSGeo Git Service ?

2016-04-15 Thread Sandro Santilli
On Fri, Apr 15, 2016 at 02:21:22PM +0200, Mateusz Loskot wrote:
> On 15 April 2016 at 09:52, Sandro Santilli <s...@keybit.net> wrote:
> > What would you want from an OSGeo Git Service ?
> 
> My 10 features are:
> 
> 1. LDAP (log in with OSGeo User ID or OpenID)
> 2. Private repositories
> 3. Organizations (e.g./GDAL)
> 4. User space (fork /GDAL/gdal into /mloskot/gdal, also private fork)
> 5. Issue tracker (internal, as external would never be as well integrated)
> -- Milestones, labels/categories, commit keywords (e.g. Fixes #123)
> -- Comment issues via mail is not critical, but nice.
> 6. Wiki (internal, see above)
> 7. Code review (comments on diff lines is a minimum)
> 8. Pull requests
> 9. CI (integration with Travis CI and AppVeyor is a minimum)
> 10. Webhooks and any other mean to integrate with IRC, Gitter, Slack,
> whatever teams like to use.
> 
> The comparison table [1] so far, I think, makes it clear GitLab is the only
> self-hosted solution which is close to what we've got now: Subversion + Trac.
> It also matches my 10 points.
> 
> Gogs wins due to low*** maintenance requirements,
> but it will require custom development what, I think,
> is a deal breaker - we have NO resources for this.
> 
> GitLab wins feature-wise, but its maintenance might turn
> very demanding***. If bigger hassle than SVN+Trac this
> also might be deal breaker - we have VERY limited resources.
> 
> ***We need to allocate budget for admins!

I would add that IFF all projects migrate to a new infrastructure
(like Gogs or GitLab) the overall maintainance cost might _reduce_
as enabling a feature (like "tickets update via commit log")
currently requires changing the configuration of each project
repository, rather than a single configuration valid for
everybody (or an autonomous setting for it).

> Finally, GitHub, wins: feature-wise, marketing-wise, with 'zero' maintenance
> - most, if not all, of our projects already prefer GitHub.

1. marketing wasn't in your 10 points ?
2. 'zero' maintainance is true for any hosted solution (including
   gitlab.com, for example).

> The only reason we haven't done it already is the cost.

Done what ? Most projects don't need private repositories so could
move at no cost. Or you mean the cost of having LDAP authentication ?

> Let's allocate budget for paid account.

Are you willing to collect quotes for hosted git service plans
meeting all of your 10 features above ? Do we have an idea about
the actual needs in term of number of repositories or other similar
parameters required ?

Personally I wouldn't like to see an "open source" foundation pay for
services based on "closed source" software, but I guess there are open
source based companies offering hosted services too.

> However, the very first question is still open:
> Do we want or need to switch at all?
> Are all teams happy with the OSGeo SVN+Trac setup?

I guess this needs to be an individual question, not a per-team one.
Personally I'd like to stop using SVN, in general, and being able
to easily publish my development branches for consideration by
projects (and discussion over them). Current trac setup allows to
switch to git but management of forks and pull requests are not
available out-of-the-box (didn't do any research about plugins
to do that). Add to that the problem of needing to enable each feature
on each of the projects and find that it migth be just easier
to switch all to Gogs (28 repositories are already registered there,
and it is only an experimental deploy).

Looking forward for others to answer this fundamental question:
Are you happy with OSGeo SVN+Trac setup ?

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] What would you want from an OSGeo Git Service ?

2016-04-15 Thread Sandro Santilli
On Thu, Apr 14, 2016 at 04:15:34PM +, Jody Garnett wrote:
> I think some kind of bridge to github is high on the list (viewing it more
> as an outreach marketing concern than anything). In my experience projects
> that are not officially on github get lots of unofficial forks - but that
> could depend on which are of the world you are in?

I agree for marketing being on github is helpful, and we're already
doing it with mirrors for GEOS/PostGIS (accepting pull requests but
not tickets).

What kind of bridge would you think it could be useful ?
Does it need to be built in the Git service or could it be
provided externally by OSGeo (like requested in this ticket
for mirroring tools: https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/ticket/1654) ?

Would you want to bridge authentication or code or tickets ?

> I am very interested in maintaining an exit strategy for github given
> recent experience with Codehaus and SourceForge.

For the code, GIT has a built-in exit strategy (full history is
everywhere). What's problematic is tickets. When commit logs contain
references to issues by unqualified ticket number, they either refer
to one or the other ticketting system. Moving tickets away would mean
migrating the tickets data. I've heard mentioning a github API to
query tickets but didnt' do any research about existing migration
tools as I'm personally not planning to put tickets in there.

Anyway, I've added a raw to the comparison table for
"tool to migrate from github".

https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/GitInfrastructureComparison

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[OSGeo-Discuss] What would you want from an OSGeo Git Service ?

2016-04-14 Thread Sandro Santilli
Following the "recent" discussion [1] about OSGeo infrastructure
to provide modern software code management services, I drafted a features
comparison table [2] on the wiki to help with determining which packages
would better serve the needs of OSGeo projects.

If you have any specific feature you'd like to see considered in that
table please edit the page and add it, or mention it in reply to this
mail for discussion.

At the moment the table only compares "Gogs" and "GitLab-CE" as those
are the only two packages proposed by volunteers willing to take care
of the initial deploy. Shall others be willing to setup more packages
they can be added as further columns to the table (or, again, discussed
here first).

Shall there be MediaWiki support for integrated polls (to add a
"score" column automatically filled) I'd love to know about it
(dreaming big).

Happy planning!

[1] https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/discuss/2015-October/014997.html
[2] https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/GitInfrastructureComparison

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] 2016 OSGeo's actions - Survey

2016-04-14 Thread Sandro Santilli
On Tue, Apr 12, 2016 at 06:41:02PM +0200, Massimiliano Cannata wrote:

> For this reason, the board kindly ask you to participate in the survey by
> filling (as many time as your ideas are) the form at this url:
> http://goo.gl/forms/HTGTlKv7SB

(When) will we get to read the results of the survey ?

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] WorldWind GeoForAll @ OSGeo+ICA+ISPRS+OGRS

2016-04-11 Thread Sandro Santilli
On Sun, Apr 10, 2016 at 07:04:05PM +, Hogan, Patrick (ARC-PX) wrote:

> 1. The European Space Agency (ESA) has standardized on NASA WebWorldWind.

Great news, thank you !
I took the chance to register a NASAWorldWind organization on
the _experimental_ OSGeo git service, and added mirrors of all
the codebases currently available on github under that name:

 https://git.osgeo.org/_gogs_/NASAWorldWind

I hope it'll help OSGeo users who don't want to register an account on
github to contribute to the project.

PS: if you like the idea, just login once (with your OSGeo Userid) and
I'll be able to set you as an owner of the organization.

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[OSGeo-Discuss] A new candidate to renew OSGeo code hosting solution (was OSGeo is becoming irrelevant. Here's why. Let's fix it)

2016-04-05 Thread Sandro Santilli
Sorry to revive this old thread but there's something new

On Fri, Oct 09, 2015 at 12:42:49PM +0200, Sandro Santilli wrote:

> I'd rather avoid to use a software that's intentionally limited in its
> free software version. We still want all OSGeo users (how much users
> exist by now?) able to file tickets...

The new element is a modern code repository service (like
gitlab/github) released under the MIT license and very active
(+20 contributors in the last 30 days, +140 contributors in the last
year). It has a single - open source - edition, supports LDAP
authentication, PostgreSQL backend and is packaged for debian/ubuntu
(in addition to others).

The only downside is that it is written in GO, but then it is also
used as a benchmarking element for it, which means it's well known
in that community.

May I present you, The Go Git Service:

   https://gogs.io/

How would you see an experimental install of it on OSGeo platform ?
NOTE: it's also _lightweight_ !

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] how did the Paris code sprint go

2016-03-08 Thread Sandro Santilli
On Tue, Mar 08, 2016 at 03:32:54PM +, Jody Garnett wrote:
> I second the idea of build boxes being very important to the well being of
> projects. I was not aware that OSGeo had been running one, or that it had
> been taken away.

It was set up by Mateusz, did run wonderfully and got later
discontinued during some sort of upgrade, I think.

He can surely add some more info. Chances are there's still a
configuration around, possibly even under revision control.

> I assume you have looked at solutions like Travis which are "free" to open
> source (in exchange for the advertising they get by being exposed to your
> developer and community).

We are already using both Travis and GitLab-ci, from hosted services,
plus our own instace of Jenkins (run by Robe). And doing our own
"waterfall" display manually, with trac wiki syntax:
https://trac.osgeo.org/postgis/

Nothing compared to the real BuildBot waterfall we used to have.

Right now we have nothing ready to offer to those users that would
like to donate some of their machines time to ensure PostGIS works
on their system. Who championed Jenkins did so mentioning it would
have been much easier to maintain than BuildBot, but that specific
service of plugging in new slaves was never brought up again.

> Boundless, CSIRO, and GeoSolutions provided build boxes for GeoServer
> (testing different integration functionality important to their business).
> They are invaluable to keeping quality up.

Hooked to Jenkins ? Or Travis ?

> Sandro we are setting up priorities for the foundation, I really encourage
> you to take part and submit a PostGIS build box as an idea. I know the real
> stop gap is volunteer time, I would hope such a useful idea would attract
> people.

I recall the OSGeo buildbot was not postgis-specific.
Mateusz did layout a flexible configuration serving multiple projects.

It's not the _slaves_ I'm after, but the _master_ configuration.
Slaves could be found in each of the project communities, I'd think.

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> On Tue, Mar 8, 2016 at 7:17 AM Mateusz Loskot <mate...@loskot.net> wrote:
> 
> > On 8 March 2016 at 12:19, Oliver Courtin <olivier.cour...@oslandia.com>
> > wrote:
> > > Le 8 mars 2016 à 09:34, Sandro Santilli a écrit :
> > >>
> > >> Donating some fun to core developers is surely appreciated [..]
> > >> but is just to stress out that it doesn't
> > >> take being in the same room at the same time to move a project forward.
> > >
> > > Obviously we tried to get some fun (in Paris). And hope we did.
> > >
> > > But real point is to share time together with projects in mind.
> > > Point is to strengthen, again, devs community.
> >
> > Oliver,
> >
> > I've done it in person but I'd like to repeat here too:
> > you've done amazing job organizing the Paris sprint.
> >
> > It was a perfect combination of work and fun which also,
> > AFAIS, was very productive event for the numerous projects.
> >
> > Best regards,
> > --
> > Mateusz Loskot, http://mateusz.loskot.net
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] how did the Paris code sprint go

2016-03-08 Thread Sandro Santilli
On Mon, Mar 07, 2016 at 07:03:31PM +, Hogan, Patrick (ARC-PX) wrote:

> A truly exemplary individual effort for all sprinters, 
> for how great work well precedes the sprint itself, 
> allowing Paul to make the most of this coding event. 

It might be of interest that the bug which kept Paul busy for 70%
of his time was spotted by me 6 weeks before the sprint [1] and
analyzed by me [2] during the sprint. And I also provided a fix
during the sprint [3].

This is not to say that Paul work wasn't needed (he did a great
work modernizing the module inizialization code and backporting
the fix in all branches) but is just to stress out that it doesn't
take being in the same room at the same time to move a project
forward.

Donating some fun to core developers is surely appreciated
(hint: you can pay me a movie theater via bitcoin or paypal)
but I think reliable infrastructure to improve open collaboration
is still the best investiment for a software foundation.

For example, we lost the OSGeo BuildBot instance long time ago
and I'm still missing it [4]. The OSGeo BuildBot infrastructure allowed
any user or packager of every OSGeo project to plug a machine to
the system in order to ensure compatibility of the software with
that specific machine. At the moment, as more and more projects
move to the proprietary-backed "github" infrastructure, most testing
reduced to a specific version of an "ubuntu" system, with some
custom-crafted solutions in each project (Jenkins for PostGIS, Dash
for QGIS, ...).

Maybe we should get all build bots togheter in a room somewhere on
the planet and fill them with beer. It might work :P

[1] https://trac.osgeo.org/postgis/ticket/3429
[2] https://trac.osgeo.org/postgis/ticket/3429#comment:26
[3] https://trac.osgeo.org/postgis/ticket/3429#comment:29
[4] https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/ticket/1214

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] [Board] Funding code Sprints

2016-03-06 Thread Sandro Santilli
On Sun, Mar 06, 2016 at 03:40:29PM +, Hogan, Patrick (ARC-PX) wrote:

> The world needs a more peaceful approach to the future.

Well said !
The idea of working 24h/day is what keeps me away from code sprints.
But when there's a chance to have fun and eat togheter, taking a break
from work, sponsored by a Foundation or client, well... then it becomes
worth going :)

How much should OSGeo invest in such community building I won't get into.

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Creating a Mailing List

2016-02-12 Thread Sandro Santilli
On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 08:17:24AM -0800, Jody Garnett wrote:

> (The board is also laying down the 2016 budget - which includes a guess at
> a budget for SAC)

This is great news! Looking forward for details.

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo/LocationTech relationship

2015-11-13 Thread Sandro Santilli
On Fri, Nov 13, 2015 at 11:39:22AM +0100, Andrea Ross wrote:

> It is the viral nature of the GPL & AGPL that keeps projects using
> those licenses out if LocationTech & Eclipse for now.

It is actually LocationTech and Eclipse keeping those projects
out, not any "virus". There's no prescription in GPL and AGPL
licenses preventing you from distributing the code.

The only thing you can not do, with GPL and AGPL, is distributing
the code while not also distributing the freedom that came with it.
Is that something LocationTech and Eclipse are planning to do ?

Please do not spread use of the term "virus" in association with
free software. Last I checked every software virus was proprietary.

For a more appropriate terminology, please refer to:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyleft

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[OSGeo-Discuss] bitten, anyone ?

2015-11-13 Thread Sandro Santilli
Did anyone try the Edgewall (of Trac fame) continuous integration
solution ? Would integrate seamlessly to the OSGeo trac instances.

An example view (of "bitten" itself):
http://bitten.edgewall.org/build/branches-0.6.x

The Bitten white paper:
http://bitten.edgewall.org/wiki/WhitePaper

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo/LocationTech relationship

2015-11-13 Thread Sandro Santilli
On Fri, Nov 13, 2015 at 09:45:23AM +0100, María Arias de Reyna wrote:

> And as wrong as they are, if their main focus is on
> bussiness, it is understandable they are afraid of freedom.

I disagree on this point.
I've been make a living out of free software development for over a
decade now, and I know there are many people doing the same.

Businesses do not need to be afraid of (software) freedom,
but I can see businesses based on distributing non-free software
wanting to be sure they can easily find cheap components to build
their black boxes, and thus offering hosting for such potentially
exploitable components.

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo/LocationTech relationship

2015-11-13 Thread Sandro Santilli
On Fri, Nov 13, 2015 at 01:19:20PM +0100, Andrea Ross wrote:

> It is the extra nature beyond other reciprocal licenses like LGPL,
> EPL, and MPL that is the concern.
> I've not heard a different term to describe that aspect.

I think "reciprocal" expresses the concept very well, not sure why
you associate it with LGPL, EPL and MPL as none of them has the
"share-alike" prescription (another good term):
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Share-alike

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo/LocationTech relationship

2015-11-12 Thread Sandro Santilli
On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 09:29:59PM +, Jody Garnett wrote:

> I may as well link to my more recent talk (https://vimeo.com/142989259) as

Interesting talk Jody, thank you !

One thing it wasn't clear to me (I might have dreamt it):
did you say that LocationTech only accept non-copylefted projects
in the foundation ? I think it came out by the very end
of the talk, in response to a question from Luca Delucchi (~30:00)

I tried browsing the locationtech.org website but found no mention
of this limitation.

It's confusing, because you early mentioned that projects can be
in both foundations while if that's confirmed projects like PostGIS,
GRASS or QGIS (to name a few) could _not_ be.

It is interesting that they have dedicated IP stuff, would come to
think the actual goal is to help companies ride the "Open Source" tide
(still big, and still growing) w/out risk of getting wet...

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[OSGeo-Discuss] commenting trac tickets via mail

2015-11-11 Thread Sandro Santilli
FYI, I've successfully setup integration from my 
mail agent (Mutt) and all of the OSGeo trac instances
using Cartman. Detail are here:

 http://strk.keybit.net/blog/2015/11/11/trac-from-mutt/

The referenced script could be used to integrate to other mail agents.

It's much easier to set such gateway locally than it would be to
setup a mail-to-trac service on the OSGeo machines as it removes any
need to implement an authentication method for incoming mails.

Of course it's more work for users, who have to set things up
themselves on each machine they read mails from, but it requires
zero intervention from SAC.

Shall you really want to be able to use trac via email and find
this method too complicated, please make your voice heard
(and time spent) here:

 https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeo/ticket/897

Long live the OSGeo infrastructure !

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] [Board] Discussion for Motion: Committee bi-monthly reports

2015-10-20 Thread Sandro Santilli
On Tue, Oct 20, 2015 at 08:12:41AM +0200, Massimiliano Cannata wrote:
> I personally don't think that writing half a page of activities list coul
> take more then 20 minutes.
> 
> This is helpful for several things:
> - inform the board
> - inform the community
> - promote osgeo showing its activities
> - report in annual general meeting
> - .
> 
> I think it worth the (minimalist) effort.

I actually agree on this.
As a community member I'd love to read periodical reports
from each commitee. Even better if the report includes references
to where further info can be obtained, like commetee goals and
composition, recent wiki edits, trac tickets milestones etc (this
info could just be included from a template on every report).

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo guidelines for code hosting ?

2015-10-19 Thread Sandro Santilli
On Sun, Oct 18, 2015 at 03:04:06PM -0700, Jody Garnett wrote:

> Aside: Please make sure your GitHub repository has a CONTRIBUTING.md
>  file or similar if
> you are accepting pull requests from the big bad internet.

Thanks for the suggestion, done (for PostGIS):
 https://trac.osgeo.org/postgis/changeset/14290

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo guidelines for code hosting ?

2015-10-19 Thread Sandro Santilli
On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 02:58:26PM +0200, Mateusz Loskot wrote:
> On 18 October 2015 at 11:53, Paragon Corporation  wrote:
> >
> > Many of them would prefer OSGEO hosting (and preferably git over svn)
> > because why force someone to get a github account just to put in a bug
> > report or submit a patch.
> 
> Such barrier for ad-hoc contributors, not only on GitHub but our Trac too,
> could potentially be removed by allowing a hybrid authentication
> (i.e. sign in to Trac w/ your existing account on other social services),
> if Trac provides support for that.

+1, might be an interesting feature to evaluate.
I'd love OpenID support, for example...

I guess then we'll need a way to blacklist accounts if they are found
to be just spam accounts.

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo guidelines for code hosting ?

2015-10-18 Thread Sandro Santilli
On Sat, Oct 17, 2015 at 10:22:10PM +0200, Mateusz Loskot wrote:

> Once Sandro has completed setting up git.osgeo.org infrastructure, who
> is going to maintain it?

Just a note: I'm not going to setup git.osgeo.org infrastructure
against the will of OSGeo board.
So far all I'm doing is feasibility research.

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo guidelines for code hosting ?

2015-10-18 Thread Sandro Santilli
On Sun, Oct 18, 2015 at 08:41:12AM +0200, Andrea Aime wrote:

> In particular, looking at GeoServer experience from the switch, it's rather
> evident we got more people contributing right the moment we did the
> switch, here is the contributors per month diagram, the red line
> is the date we switched from svn to GitHub:

How does that diagram counts contributors ?

With SVN it's very unlikely that a bot can recognize contributors
other than the committers, while with GIT it's easier to make the
actual contributor visible to a machine (being there an "author"
field in addition to the "committer" field).

I'm not trying to negate the possible benefits in terms of number
of contributors, but I'd be careful about the correctess of available
data.

> There is another benefit of moving to Github, which is build checks on pull
> requests,

Yes, this is something we unfortunately lost on OSGeo.
We used to have buildbot running to that extent, but lack of volunteers
made that experience come to an end.

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo thoughts on discussion/collaboration platform hosting

2015-10-18 Thread Sandro Santilli
On Sun, Oct 18, 2015 at 03:28:30PM +0200, Mateusz Loskot wrote:

> communication channels like Gitter. I see, people may prefer chats like that.
> By the way https://gitter.im/OSGeo.

People that don't mind having a GitHub account and using proprietary
software to communicate. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gitter

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo guidelines for code hosting ?

2015-10-18 Thread Sandro Santilli
On Sun, Oct 18, 2015 at 09:07:52AM +0200, Andreas Hocevar wrote:

> please keep an alternative in mind: pay for an OSGeo Github account for
> projects that want to use Git. Will burn some money, but won't burn out
> volunteers who have to keep OSGeo's own infrastructure up and running. See
> https://github.com/locationtech as an example.

Please keep another alternative in mind: pay OSGeo system administrators.

Will burn some money, but won't burn out volunteers who have to keep
OSGeo's own infrastructure up and running.

Even if I understand that the cost for OSGeo sysadmins might be higher
than the cost for a GitHub account, I can also see that the money
spent on SAC might result in indirect benefit for free software tools
(I'm sure SAC people do file tickets for the tools they use) while
those spent on GitHub could only result in benefit for the proprietary
software used to run that service.

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo thoughts on discussion/collaboration platform hosting

2015-10-18 Thread Sandro Santilli
On Sun, Oct 18, 2015 at 08:16:10AM -0400, Michael Smith wrote:
> Along the lines of code hosting, do we want to think about some kind of
> OSGeo hosted Slack-like service for the community / projects, eg
> MatterMost, RocketChat, etc?
> 
> 
> I wanted to start this as a separate topic although a lot of these
> alternatives are based on git or gitlab so its a very related discussion.
> 
> What would be useful to OSGeo projects?

It takes a poll, I guess.
Personally, IRC serves me well (but we could add an irc server link to
the freenode network from osgeo machines :)

BTW: this wiki page may be helpful, and surely can be enhanced:
http://directory.fsf.org/wiki/Collection:SaaSS_replacements

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