Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Re: Voting for new OSGeo Charter Members open until 6th June 2008
+1 from Arnulf Christl to add all 18 nominees as new charter members (this is not a motion and obviously we should not change the rules of the process while it is running - but what the heck, if We All think it makes sense?) Maybe it is also time to polish up the image of the (normal, intentional and real) OSGeo Member. The *only* thing that the Charter Member does, is vote for new Charter Members and half of the board once a year. But it is not possible to formally associate oneself with OGSeo as a *regular* member. All you can do right now is create an account in the Wiki and another one to participate in the portal, various web sites, Trac and SVN. There is an informal process to document being an OSGeo Member in a web-traceable, public, web 2.0, compatible, blah mash-up way at: http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Category:OSGeo_Member It seems to pick up some speed now so please register if you feel like it or comment on how it could be improved here: http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Talk:Membership_Rules and there: http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Membership_Application and there: http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Category_talk:OSGeo_Member (now in implementation) And if you find more information elsewhere, feel free to link it. Regards, Arnulf. On Sun, June 1, 2008 15:31, Jeroen Ticheler wrote: +1 from me. I'm actually curious to understand what the reason is behind the number of new charter members. The policy says: The number of new members will be between 10% and one third of the existing charter membership count as decided by the board. Now, that means an ever increasing number even if the total OSGeo community would be shrinking. Shouldn't the number of new charter members also be related to e.g. the number of people subscribed to the OSGeo discuss list (or another community size indicator)? Ciao, Jeroen On May 31, 2008, at 5:00 AM, Dave Patton wrote: P Kishor wrote: So, on the basis of a highly scientific polling methodology, we have 5 for inviting all 18 nominated to become Charter Members and 2 for leaving 3 behind. There is some logic in sticking with the program, but programs have to be malleable and changeable with the times and situation. 15 is as arbitrary a number as 18. My choosing 15 out of the list is going to 100% irrational and arbitrary. 3 is as arbitrary a number as 4, or 5, or 6. So what would happen if there were 19 nominations, or 20 or 21 Changing the policy may be appropriate, but not during the process. For example, knowing that the 'magic number' is 15, some people might have decided not to make further nominations on seeing a list of 18 well qualified nominees, but may have made a different choice had they known the 'magic number' could be changed. -- Dave Patton CIS Canadian Information Systems Victoria, B.C. Degree Confluence Project: Canadian Coordinator Technical Coordinator http://www.confluence.org/ OSGeo FOSS4G2007 conference: Workshop Committee Chair Conference Committee member http://www.foss4g2007.org/ Personal website: Maps, GPS, etc. http://members.shaw.ca/davepatton/ ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss -- Arnulf Christl http://www.wheregroup.com ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Re: Voting for new OSGeo Charter Members open until 6th June 2008
Jeroen Ticheler wrote: +1 from me. I'm actually curious to understand what the reason is behind the number of new charter members. The policy says: The number of new members will be between 10% and one third of the existing charter membership count as decided by the board. Now, that means an ever increasing number even if the total OSGeo community would be shrinking. Shouldn't the number of new charter members also be related to e.g. the number of people subscribed to the OSGeo discuss list (or another community size indicator)? Jeroen, People also drop off the list over time. If a charter member does not vote at all for two straight years, the Secretary is responsible for removing them from the charter member list. The 10-33% range was intended to allow renewal and growth while not making it likely that the direction of the foundation is likely to be swamped by a sudden influx of not-so-likeminded new members. My hope is that the board would have some sense of how many additional quality members we are likely to find in a year when setting the exact number of new members. Best regards, -- ---+-- I set the clouds in motion - turn up | Frank Warmerdam, [EMAIL PROTECTED] light and sound - activate the windows | http://pobox.com/~warmerdam and watch the world go round - Rush| President OSGeo, http://osgeo.org ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Re: Voting for new OSGeo Charter Members open until 6th June 2008
Dave Patton wrote: Changing the policy may be appropriate, but not during the process. +1 to Dave. I don't think it's a good idea to change policy now. Lorenzo ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Re: Voting for new OSGeo Charter Members open until 6th June 2008
Lorenzo Becchi wrote: Dave Patton wrote: Changing the policy may be appropriate, but not during the process. +1 to Dave. I don't think it's a good idea to change policy now. +1 to the above. Venka ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[OSGeo-Discuss] Re: Voting for new OSGeo Charter Members open until 6th June 2008
On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 3:41 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: dear all, The list of nominations for new OSGeo Charter Members is here: http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/New_Member_Nominations_2008 From today until the end of Friday 6th June 2008, votes for 15 new Charter Members are being accepted at [EMAIL PROTECTED] This is a great list. Each one of those listed would be (well, already is) a great asset to the OSGeo cause and community. There are only 18 on that list, so that means 3 will be left out. My vote? Charter-ify all 18 of them. * Only Charter Members are eligible to vote! * Please email [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a list of names 15 lines long (one vote per new member slot) * Votes can be for 15 different people, or the same person 15 times, or any balance in between. http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Election_2008 has more links. Charter Members are responsible for electing the Board of the OSGeo Foundation. The initial group of Charter Members was the 25 people in the Free and Open Source Geospatial community who attended the startup meeting of the Foundation in Chicago on 4th Feb. 2006 This group later selected another 20 Charter Members and they in turn elected the first complete Board in the summer of 2006. In 2007 another 15 Charter Members were elected to the Foundation (one stood down). The current list is at http://www.osgeo.org/charter_members http://www.osgeo.org/membership explains why the Charter Membership exists, basically as an attempt to guarantee the ongoing integrity of the Board as representative of the community at large. This is seen as more stable, and less liable to hijack, than granting a vote in exchange for payment (like the OpenStreetmap Foundation) or in exchange for measurable contribution (like Wikimedia's Foundation) This year's nominations again, for those who read this far: http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/New_Member_Nominations_2008 jo -- -- Puneet Kishor ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Re: Voting for new OSGeo Charter Members open until 6th June 2008
So, on the basis of a highly scientific polling methodology, we have 5 for inviting all 18 nominated to become Charter Members and 2 for leaving 3 behind. There is some logic in sticking with the program, but programs have to be malleable and changeable with the times and situation. 15 is as arbitrary a number as 18. My choosing 15 out of the list is going to 100% irrational and arbitrary. I'd rather err on the side of inclusion. On 5/30/08, Mateusz Loskot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On May 31, 2008, at 12:04 AM, Jody Garnett wrote: P Kishor wrote: This is a great list. Each one of those listed would be (well, already is) a great asset to the OSGeo cause and community. There are only 18 on that list, so that means 3 will be left out. My vote? Charter-ify all 18 of them. Somehow I think we get to stick to the program; although I agree it is a tough choice. Making this choice is one of our few responsibilities as charter members ;-) Personally, I agree with Jody's point, although it *is* a tough choice. -- Mateusz Loskot, http://mateusz.loskot.net Charter Member of OSGeo, http://osgeo.org ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss -- Puneet Kishor ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
