Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] [Live-demo] Mass production of OSGeo Live USB - any SMEs providing this ?

[Cameron Shorter]

Hi James, others,

Yes, please do share any tips, tricks and tools you have worked out re 
USB creation (and other tips) in our wiki. A starting point for 
collecting USB ideas is here:


https://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Disc_Quick_Start_for_USB

And if you have ideas which are "production ready", we should include 
them in our main OSGeo-Live Quickstart:

https://live.osgeo.org/en/quickstart/usb_quickstart.html

Thanks,
Cameron

On 19/4/17 1:02 am, James Klassen wrote:
Not sure if it is useful to others but I wrote a program [1] to help 
me when Bob wants a bunch of OSGeo-Live thumb drives created.  It 
isn't by any means perfect or 100% foolproof but it sure makes the job 
quicker for me.


It takes an image and waits for USBs of the same size to be inserted, 
then copys the difference between the image and the drive (this is 
quicker as reads are much faster than writes on the thumb drives I 
have seen).  It handles multiple thumb drives at a time, so after 
starting it, it is just down to changing out drives for new ones as 
they finish copying.


I make the image running OSGeo Live in KVM and let it build a virtual 
USB at the size of the drives I have on hand.  It can help to have the 
image on a tmpfs to avoid the source being a bottleneck.


[1] https://github.com/klassenjs/copy_usb 




On Apr 18, 2017 9:49 AM, "Suchith Anand" 
> wrote:


OSGeo Live is one of the excellent success stories of OSGeo and it
is important as a community we need to pool our ideas/resources
for not only keeping building upon this but expanding for the
future. Hence i put this in the wider lists to stimulate ideas.
For example at the recent RDA meetings in Barcelona , i started
pushing for getting sponsors to fund dedicate staff time for OSGeo
Live educational materials for UN and other training/capacity
development needs  [1] and i will keep pushing this through all my
contacts .


The ideas put by Brian are excellent for the industry/SME
ecosystem of OSGeo to start exploring and expanding. For example
Cloud service(s) version of OSGeo. Time for online version of QGIS
has come (it will be better than Arcgisonline or other properitery
ones). QGISOnline will be a true open platform .

Suchith


[1]
http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/live-demo/2017-March/012009.html




From: Live-demo > on behalf of Bas
Couwenberg >
Sent: 18 April 2017 3:19 PM
To: OSGeo Discussions; live-demo
Subject: Re: [Live-demo] Mass production of OSGeo Live USB - any
SMEs providing this ?

On 2017-04-18 15:55, Basques, Bob (CI-StPaul) wrote:
> Just to add to the mix, and stir the pot somewhat, an idea to
consider
> on this . . . what about . . .
>
> having some sort of support stack/infrastructure in place for
> providing the OSGeo-Live as a bunch of different devices and
> (portable) services.  For example,
>
>
>   *   Generating the Thumb Drives
>  *   These should be generated as needed, based on our usage
> locally for different events.  When we don’t end up using some
of them
> at a particular event, we end up re-writing them with the newer
> version of OSGeo-Live for the next event.  Not really an
economically
> sound model.
>   *   Setting up something like a Raspberry Pi with OSGeo-Live.
> Possibly for resale, certainly as a download for other to install.
>   *   Setting up a Cloud (OSGE Certified?!) version of OSGe-Live
>   *   As has been mentioned before, an application picker for
> installation of software would go a long ways.
>  *   There’s a bit of effort required for this one I’ll
grant you,
> but it would certainly go along was toward promoting OSGeo.
>   *   Cloud service(s) version of OSGeo.
>   *   Setting up a Docker . . .
>
> Well you get the idea,  if your going to pay for something, may as
> well go for broke.  You end up with a one stop shop and possibly a
> container of sorts for other projects to add in their own dedicated
> versions of the same sort of devices/services.

Are you volunteering to implement any of the above?

These are good suggestions, but without people to do the work it will
never materialize.

OSGeo-Live is understaffed as it is, see also:

http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/live-demo/2017-April/012031.html



Kind Regards,

Bas
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] [Live-demo] Mass production of OSGeo Live USB - any SMEs providing this ?

[James Klassen]

Not sure if it is useful to others but I wrote a program [1] to help me
when Bob wants a bunch of OSGeo-Live thumb drives created.  It isn't by any
means perfect or 100% foolproof but it sure makes the job quicker for me.

It takes an image and waits for USBs of the same size to be inserted, then
copys the difference between the image and the drive (this is quicker as
reads are much faster than writes on the thumb drives I have seen).  It
handles multiple thumb drives at a time, so after starting it, it is just
down to changing out drives for new ones as they finish copying.

I make the image running OSGeo Live in KVM and let it build a virtual USB
at the size of the drives I have on hand.  It can help to have the image on
a tmpfs to avoid the source being a bottleneck.

[1] https://github.com/klassenjs/copy_usb


On Apr 18, 2017 9:49 AM, "Suchith Anand" 
wrote:

> OSGeo Live is one of the excellent success stories of OSGeo and it is
> important as a community we need to pool our ideas/resources for not only
> keeping building upon this but expanding for the future. Hence i put this
> in the wider lists to stimulate ideas. For example at the recent RDA
> meetings in Barcelona , i started pushing for getting sponsors to fund
> dedicate staff time for OSGeo Live educational materials for UN and other
> training/capacity development needs  [1] and i will keep pushing this
> through all my contacts .
>
> The ideas put by Brian are excellent for the industry/SME ecosystem of
> OSGeo to start exploring and expanding. For example Cloud service(s)
> version of OSGeo. Time for online version of QGIS has come (it will be
> better than Arcgisonline or other properitery ones). QGISOnline will be a
> true open platform .
>
> Suchith
>
>
> [1] http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/live-demo/2017-March/012009.html
>
> 
> From: Live-demo  on behalf of Bas
> Couwenberg 
> Sent: 18 April 2017 3:19 PM
> To: OSGeo Discussions; live-demo
> Subject: Re: [Live-demo] Mass production of OSGeo Live USB - any SMEs
> providing this ?
>
> On 2017-04-18 15:55, Basques, Bob (CI-StPaul) wrote:
> > Just to add to the mix, and stir the pot somewhat, an idea to consider
> > on this . . . what about . . .
> >
> > having some sort of support stack/infrastructure in place for
> > providing the OSGeo-Live as a bunch of different devices and
> > (portable) services.  For example,
> >
> >
> >   *   Generating the Thumb Drives
> >  *   These should be generated as needed, based on our usage
> > locally for different events.  When we don’t end up using some of them
> > at a particular event, we end up re-writing them with the newer
> > version of OSGeo-Live for the next event.  Not really an economically
> > sound model.
> >   *   Setting up something like a Raspberry Pi with OSGeo-Live.
> > Possibly for resale, certainly as a download for other to install.
> >   *   Setting up a Cloud (OSGE Certified?!) version of OSGe-Live
> >   *   As has been mentioned before, an application picker for
> > installation of software would go a long ways.
> >  *   There’s a bit of effort required for this one I’ll grant you,
> > but it would certainly go along was toward promoting OSGeo.
> >   *   Cloud service(s) version of OSGeo.
> >   *   Setting up a Docker . . .
> >
> > Well you get the idea,  if your going to pay for something, may as
> > well go for broke.  You end up with a one stop shop and possibly a
> > container of sorts for other projects to add in their own dedicated
> > versions of the same sort of devices/services.
>
> Are you volunteering to implement any of the above?
>
> These are good suggestions, but without people to do the work it will
> never materialize.
>
> OSGeo-Live is understaffed as it is, see also:
>
>   http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/live-demo/2017-April/012031.html
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Bas
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] [Live-demo] Mass production of OSGeo Live USB - any SMEs providing this ?

[Suchith Anand]

OSGeo Live is one of the excellent success stories of OSGeo and it is important 
as a community we need to pool our ideas/resources for not only keeping 
building upon this but expanding for the future. Hence i put this in the wider 
lists to stimulate ideas. For example at the recent RDA meetings in Barcelona , 
i started pushing for getting sponsors to fund dedicate staff time for OSGeo 
Live educational materials for UN and other training/capacity development needs 
 [1] and i will keep pushing this through all my contacts .

The ideas put by Brian are excellent for the industry/SME ecosystem of OSGeo to 
start exploring and expanding. For example Cloud service(s) version of OSGeo. 
Time for online version of QGIS has come (it will be better than Arcgisonline 
or other properitery ones). QGISOnline will be a true open platform .

Suchith



[1] http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/live-demo/2017-March/012009.html


From: Live-demo  on behalf of Bas Couwenberg 

Sent: 18 April 2017 3:19 PM
To: OSGeo Discussions; live-demo
Subject: Re: [Live-demo] Mass production of OSGeo Live USB - any SMEs providing 
this ?

On 2017-04-18 15:55, Basques, Bob (CI-StPaul) wrote:
> Just to add to the mix, and stir the pot somewhat, an idea to consider
> on this . . . what about . . .
>
> having some sort of support stack/infrastructure in place for
> providing the OSGeo-Live as a bunch of different devices and
> (portable) services.  For example,
>
>
>   *   Generating the Thumb Drives
>  *   These should be generated as needed, based on our usage
> locally for different events.  When we don’t end up using some of them
> at a particular event, we end up re-writing them with the newer
> version of OSGeo-Live for the next event.  Not really an economically
> sound model.
>   *   Setting up something like a Raspberry Pi with OSGeo-Live.
> Possibly for resale, certainly as a download for other to install.
>   *   Setting up a Cloud (OSGE Certified?!) version of OSGe-Live
>   *   As has been mentioned before, an application picker for
> installation of software would go a long ways.
>  *   There’s a bit of effort required for this one I’ll grant you,
> but it would certainly go along was toward promoting OSGeo.
>   *   Cloud service(s) version of OSGeo.
>   *   Setting up a Docker . . .
>
> Well you get the idea,  if your going to pay for something, may as
> well go for broke.  You end up with a one stop shop and possibly a
> container of sorts for other projects to add in their own dedicated
> versions of the same sort of devices/services.

Are you volunteering to implement any of the above?

These are good suggestions, but without people to do the work it will
never materialize.

OSGeo-Live is understaffed as it is, see also:


  http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/live-demo/2017-April/012031.html

Kind Regards,

Bas
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] [Live-demo] Mass production of OSGeo Live USB - any SMEs providing this ?

[Basques, Bob (CI-StPaul)]

Bas,

We’ve been making Thumb drives for a few years now and DVDs before that.  We’ve 
been making the Thumb Drives by hand on our own, which is a bit of time and 
effort to complete.  We’ve been handling this for our own promotional purposes 
of OSGeo, etc and have only been building less than 75 at a time.

We’ve also installed some of the OSGeo-Live apps on a Raspberry Pi to good 
effect, but we haven’t tried a whole Live install on a PI yet, but all 
indications are that it would (mostly) work.  The Short answer is, we’ve figure 
out the mechanics of this, but the writing of the actual hardware would require 
some funding to complete as a repeatable process.

bobb



On Apr 18, 2017, at 9:19 AM, Bas Couwenberg 
> wrote:

On 2017-04-18 15:55, Basques, Bob (CI-StPaul) wrote:
Just to add to the mix, and stir the pot somewhat, an idea to consider
on this . . . what about . . .
having some sort of support stack/infrastructure in place for
providing the OSGeo-Live as a bunch of different devices and
(portable) services.  For example,
 *   Generating the Thumb Drives
*   These should be generated as needed, based on our usage
locally for different events.  When we don’t end up using some of them
at a particular event, we end up re-writing them with the newer
version of OSGeo-Live for the next event.  Not really an economically
sound model.
 *   Setting up something like a Raspberry Pi with OSGeo-Live.
Possibly for resale, certainly as a download for other to install.
 *   Setting up a Cloud (OSGE Certified?!) version of OSGe-Live
 *   As has been mentioned before, an application picker for
installation of software would go a long ways.
*   There’s a bit of effort required for this one I’ll grant you,
but it would certainly go along was toward promoting OSGeo.
 *   Cloud service(s) version of OSGeo.
 *   Setting up a Docker . . .
Well you get the idea,  if your going to pay for something, may as
well go for broke.  You end up with a one stop shop and possibly a
container of sorts for other projects to add in their own dedicated
versions of the same sort of devices/services.

Are you volunteering to implement any of the above?

These are good suggestions, but without people to do the work it will never 
materialize.

OSGeo-Live is understaffed as it is, see also:

http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/live-demo/2017-April/012031.html

Kind Regards,

Bas
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] [Live-demo] Mass production of OSGeo Live USB - any SMEs providing this ?

[Bas Couwenberg]

On 2017-04-18 15:55, Basques, Bob (CI-StPaul) wrote:

Just to add to the mix, and stir the pot somewhat, an idea to consider
on this . . . what about . . .

having some sort of support stack/infrastructure in place for
providing the OSGeo-Live as a bunch of different devices and
(portable) services.  For example,


  *   Generating the Thumb Drives
 *   These should be generated as needed, based on our usage
locally for different events.  When we don’t end up using some of them
at a particular event, we end up re-writing them with the newer
version of OSGeo-Live for the next event.  Not really an economically
sound model.
  *   Setting up something like a Raspberry Pi with OSGeo-Live.
Possibly for resale, certainly as a download for other to install.
  *   Setting up a Cloud (OSGE Certified?!) version of OSGe-Live
  *   As has been mentioned before, an application picker for
installation of software would go a long ways.
 *   There’s a bit of effort required for this one I’ll grant you,
but it would certainly go along was toward promoting OSGeo.
  *   Cloud service(s) version of OSGeo.
  *   Setting up a Docker . . .

Well you get the idea,  if your going to pay for something, may as
well go for broke.  You end up with a one stop shop and possibly a
container of sorts for other projects to add in their own dedicated
versions of the same sort of devices/services.


Are you volunteering to implement any of the above?

These are good suggestions, but without people to do the work it will 
never materialize.


OSGeo-Live is understaffed as it is, see also:

 http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/live-demo/2017-April/012031.html

Kind Regards,

Bas
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