Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Copy Left and Copyright for Geospatial software

2013-10-19 Thread Venkatesh Raghavan

Rajan and All,

I think Ravi was seeking clarification about All Rights Reserved 
mentioned in some of

the OSGeo Software's copyright notices.

 © symbol or word Copyright followed publication date and copyright 
owner's name

should be adequate (like in many web sites) to be protected under copyright.

Also, since Open Sources licenses [1] grant rights to the users (rather 
than reserving
them with copyright owner) removing All Rights Reserved would reduce 
confusion.


All rights reserved is a legacy and persists although not required by 
copyright laws

in most countries.

Venka

[1] http://opensource.org/licenses

On 10/18/2013 2:58 PM, K S Rajan wrote:

Ravi,

In India software does have copyright but is not patentable (will not go into 
details of why it is not patentable in India).
Copyright is automatic from the time the work is created. Also, as Puneet 
points out the original author does have a copyright and it can be enforced by 
the author if need. To be on the safe side, one can formally register the work 
or its extracts, and such reregistration helps in a court of law.

Pls see http://copyright.gov.in and its FAQ section.

And afaik, Open Source licenses suitably modify and make it open for 
use,copying and modification of the software/tool (essentially giving the four 
freedoms that FSF and all others talk about) and don't alter copyright.

My views are based on what I shared at a CII conclave on IP  Copyrights a few 
years ago.
- Rajan



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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Copy Left and Copyright for Geospatial software

2013-10-18 Thread K S Rajan
Ravi,

In India software does have copyright but is not patentable (will not go into 
details of why it is not patentable in India).
Copyright is automatic from the time the work is created. Also, as Puneet 
points out the original author does have a copyright and it can be enforced by 
the author if need. To be on the safe side, one can formally register the work 
or its extracts, and such reregistration helps in a court of law.

Pls see http://copyright.gov.in and its FAQ section.

And afaik, Open Source licenses suitably modify and make it open for 
use,copying and modification of the software/tool (essentially giving the four 
freedoms that FSF and all others talk about) and don't alter copyright.

My views are based on what I shared at a CII conclave on IP  Copyrights a few 
years ago.
- Rajan

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- Original Message -

 On Oct 16, 2013, at 11:26 PM, Ravi Kumar  ravivundavall...@yahoo.com
  wrote:

 ​ ​ How many of the OSGeo Softwares are Copy Left and Copy Right
 ​

 ​  Pl give a link where the rationale is explained especially for
 OSGeo.
  I am aware that Free Software Foundation has things explained.
  This is to a great extent true only in countries like USA where
  software
  can be copy righted.
  In many countries software does not come under Copyright. Example:
  India.

 The above is incorrect. As per Section 13(1)(a) of the Indian
 Copyright Act, 1957, copyright subsists in original literary,
 dramatic and musical works:

  13. Works in which copyright subsists. (1) Subject to the
  provisions
  of this section and the other provisions of this Act, copyright
  shall subsist throughout India in the following classes of works,
  that is to say,-


  (a) original literary, dramatic, musical and artistic works;

 As per Section 2(o) of the (Indian) Copyright Act, 1957; literary
 works include computer programmes. The exact text of the section is:

  (o)

  ​ ​ literary work includes computer programmes, tables and
  compilations including computer

  ​ data bases ;


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[OSGeo-Discuss] Copy Left and Copyright for Geospatial software

2013-10-17 Thread Ravi Kumar
How many of the OSGeo Softwares are Copy Left and Copy Right
Pl give a link where therationale is explained especially for OSGeo.
I am aware that Free Software Foundation has things explained.
This is to a great extent true only in countries like USA where software can be 
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Copy Left and Copyright for Geospatial software

2013-10-17 Thread Iván Sánchez Ortega
El Miércoles, 16 de octubre de 2013 23:26:19 Ravi Kumar escribió:
 How many of the OSGeo Softwares are Copy Left and Copy Right
 Pl give a link where therationale is explained especially for OSGeo.

STFW.

http://www.osgeo.org/content/foundation/legal/licenses.html

«The Open Source Geospatial Foundation projects are all freely available and 
useable under an OSI-certified open source license.»

Emphasis on all.


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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Copy Left and Copyright for Geospatial software

2013-10-17 Thread Arnulf Christl
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On 17.10.2013 08:26, Ravi Kumar wrote:
 How many of the OSGeo Softwares are Copy Left and Copy Right
 Pl give a link where therationale is explained especially for OSGeo.
 I am aware that Free Software Foundation has things explained.
 This is to a great extent true only in countries like USA where software
 can be copy righted.
 In many countries software does not come under Copyright. Example: India.

Ravi,
this is interesting. What kind of rights are attributed (if any) to
software in India?

There is a comparable / yet very different issue in continental European
legal systems. Copyright did not exist here until they were introduced
from anglo-saxon jurisdictions in the last century together with patents
and the like. We instead had originator's rights which is an
intangible asset / cannot be sold like copyrights. The concept of
copyright, patents and IP is now enforced by WTO, WIPO and the like
and keeps the machine running for good or bad.

Free and Open Source Software licenses come from within the legal system
of Copyrights and re-implements a commons which works perfectly (other
than the tragic materialistic commons). But people lack an understanding
of the difference between sharing material goods and digital goods [7].

I believe the closest to a rationale on OSGeo's take on Free and Open
Source Software (but not an officially endorsed position) can be found
in recursive loops here:

http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Commercial_Software
http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Free_Software
http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Open_Source

Cheers,
Arnulf

[7] http://arnulf.us/Share

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Copy Left and Copyright for Geospatial software

2013-10-17 Thread P Kishor
On Oct 16, 2013, at 11:26 PM, Ravi Kumar ravivundavall...@yahoo.com wrote:

​ ​
How many of the OSGeo Softwares are Copy Left and Copy Right
​
​
 Pl give a link where the rationale is explained especially for OSGeo.
 I am aware that Free Software Foundation has things explained.
 This is to a great extent true only in countries like USA where software
 can be copy righted.
 In many countries software does not come under Copyright. Example:
 India.

The above is incorrect. As per Section 13(1)(a) of the Indian Copyright
Act, 1957, copyright subsists in original literary, dramatic and musical
works:

13. Works in which copyright subsists.
(1) Subject to the provisions of this section and the other provisions of
this Act, copyright shall subsist throughout India in the following classes
of works, that is to say,-

(a) original literary, dramatic, musical and artistic works;


As per Section 2(o) of the (Indian) Copyright Act, 1957; literary works
include computer programmes. The exact text of the section is:

(o)
​ ​
literary work includes computer programmes, tables and compilations
including computer
​
 data bases ;

*
*


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Science and Data Policy, Creative Commons
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