Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Data for the Integration Showcase

2007-08-23 Thread Bob Basques

Jody,

Not a big deal for me, just thinking about others that might try it.

I started through the first entry in Dave Pattons's list and still 
haven't figured out where the download spot is,  I'm doing this between 
other things though, so I'm easily distracted.


I'll do more of a random attempt at looking for the data sources next.

bobb



Jody Garnett wrote:

Bob Basques wrote:

Jody,

Ok, I must be dense, I don't see a link to any data anywhere on this 
page: http://wiki.osgeo.org/index.php/FOSS4G2007_IntegrationShowcase

A lot of reference and catalog description links though.

Is this it?  :http://wiki.osgeo.org/index.php/Canadian_Geodata, not 
exactly obvious from the previous page if you ask me.


Ok, this is a neat idea, but shouldn't there be one spot with a copy 
of the data someplace, even just a subset of smaller datasets would 
start folks going.   It would make it much easier to get started on 
participation.
I only was aware of the data loaded into the PostGIS database there; 
you can access the database to rip it out onto your machine. But it 
sounds like the data is available separately at the link Dave Patton 
described:

- http://wiki.osgeo.org/index.php/Canadian_Geodata

We should edit the wiki to make this more obvious,
Jody


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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Data for the Integration Showcase

2007-08-23 Thread Justin Deoliveira
The link provided by Jody is more for people who can access the data
directly from the postgis database.

If you are looking to get at the original data you will have to contact
the provider of the dataset: myself, Dave Patton, or Jason Birch.

-Justin

Bob Basques wrote:
 Jody,
 
 Not a big deal for me, just thinking about others that might try it.
 
 I started through the first entry in Dave Pattons's list and still
 haven't figured out where the download spot is,  I'm doing this between
 other things though, so I'm easily distracted.
 
 I'll do more of a random attempt at looking for the data sources next.
 
 bobb
 
 
 
 Jody Garnett wrote:
 Bob Basques wrote:
 Jody,

 Ok, I must be dense, I don't see a link to any data anywhere on this
 page: http://wiki.osgeo.org/index.php/FOSS4G2007_IntegrationShowcase
 A lot of reference and catalog description links though.

 Is this it?  :http://wiki.osgeo.org/index.php/Canadian_Geodata, not
 exactly obvious from the previous page if you ask me.

 Ok, this is a neat idea, but shouldn't there be one spot with a copy
 of the data someplace, even just a subset of smaller datasets would
 start folks going.   It would make it much easier to get started on
 participation.
 I only was aware of the data loaded into the PostGIS database there;
 you can access the database to rip it out onto your machine. But it
 sounds like the data is available separately at the link Dave Patton
 described:
 - http://wiki.osgeo.org/index.php/Canadian_Geodata

 We should edit the wiki to make this more obvious,
 Jody


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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Data for the Integration Showcase

2007-08-23 Thread Tyler Mitchell (OSGeo)
Isn't part of the idea that the db can be hit live during the event -  
or was that a pipe dream?


Tyler

On 23-Aug-07, at 9:55 AM, Justin Deoliveira wrote:


The link provided by Jody is more for people who can access the data
directly from the postgis database.

If you are looking to get at the original data you will have to  
contact

the provider of the dataset: myself, Dave Patton, or Jason Birch.

-Justin

Bob Basques wrote:

Jody,

Not a big deal for me, just thinking about others that might try it.

I started through the first entry in Dave Pattons's list and still
haven't figured out where the download spot is,  I'm doing this  
between

other things though, so I'm easily distracted.

I'll do more of a random attempt at looking for the data sources  
next.


bobb



Jody Garnett wrote:

Bob Basques wrote:

Jody,

Ok, I must be dense, I don't see a link to any data anywhere on  
this
page: http://wiki.osgeo.org/index.php/ 
FOSS4G2007_IntegrationShowcase

A lot of reference and catalog description links though.

Is this it?  :http://wiki.osgeo.org/index.php/Canadian_Geodata, not
exactly obvious from the previous page if you ask me.

Ok, this is a neat idea, but shouldn't there be one spot with a  
copy

of the data someplace, even just a subset of smaller datasets would
start folks going.   It would make it much easier to get started on
participation.

I only was aware of the data loaded into the PostGIS database there;
you can access the database to rip it out onto your machine. But it
sounds like the data is available separately at the link Dave Patton
described:
- http://wiki.osgeo.org/index.php/Canadian_Geodata

We should edit the wiki to make this more obvious,
Jody


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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Data for the Integration Showcase

2007-08-23 Thread Bob Basques

This would be prefereable, but I wasn't getting that vibe from these emails.

bobb



Tyler Mitchell (OSGeo) wrote:
Isn't part of the idea that the db can be hit live during the event - 
or was that a pipe dream?


Tyler

On 23-Aug-07, at 9:55 AM, Justin Deoliveira wrote:


The link provided by Jody is more for people who can access the data
directly from the postgis database.

If you are looking to get at the original data you will have to contact
the provider of the dataset: myself, Dave Patton, or Jason Birch.

-Justin

Bob Basques wrote:

Jody,

Not a big deal for me, just thinking about others that might try it.

I started through the first entry in Dave Pattons's list and still
haven't figured out where the download spot is,  I'm doing this between
other things though, so I'm easily distracted.

I'll do more of a random attempt at looking for the data sources next.

bobb



Jody Garnett wrote:

Bob Basques wrote:

Jody,

Ok, I must be dense, I don't see a link to any data anywhere on this
page: http://wiki.osgeo.org/index.php/FOSS4G2007_IntegrationShowcase
A lot of reference and catalog description links though.

Is this it?  :http://wiki.osgeo.org/index.php/Canadian_Geodata, not
exactly obvious from the previous page if you ask me.

Ok, this is a neat idea, but shouldn't there be one spot with a copy
of the data someplace, even just a subset of smaller datasets would
start folks going.   It would make it much easier to get started on
participation.

I only was aware of the data loaded into the PostGIS database there;
you can access the database to rip it out onto your machine. But it
sounds like the data is available separately at the link Dave Patton
described:
- http://wiki.osgeo.org/index.php/Canadian_Geodata

We should edit the wiki to make this more obvious,
Jody


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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Data for the Integration Showcase

2007-08-23 Thread Bob Basques

All,

Was only trying to set up a web service that I presumed could be listed 
somewhere that would demo our Client with the data that was described, I 
can download the data myself too.  

Having a DB dump from the PostGIS side, even with some small sub-area 
would work too.  This is just a thought though from my end.


I'll go and download what I can and see what I can get up and running, 
maybe do a couple of layers first, then come back to the list for 
reaction on it to that point, before going to hard at it.


Thanks everyone.

bobb



Dave Patton wrote:

Jody Garnett wrote:

Bob Basques wrote:

Jody,

Ok, I must be dense, I don't see a link to any data anywhere on this 
page: http://wiki.osgeo.org/index.php/FOSS4G2007_IntegrationShowcase

A lot of reference and catalog description links though.

Is this it?  :http://wiki.osgeo.org/index.php/Canadian_Geodata, not 
exactly obvious from the previous page if you ask me.


Ok, this is a neat idea, but shouldn't there be one spot with a copy 
of the data someplace, even just a subset of smaller datasets would 
start folks going.   It would make it much easier to get started on 
participation.
I only was aware of the data loaded into the PostGIS database there; 
you can access the database to rip it out onto your machine. But it 
sounds like the data is available separately at the link Dave Patton 
described:

- http://wiki.osgeo.org/index.php/Canadian_Geodata


The proper place to get the original data is via the
links on the Canadian Geodata wiki page.

All of that data was acquired by myself, Jason, and Justin,
and all of it has physically been loaded onto the server
that Justin is managing, which hosts the Integration Showcase.

Not all of the loaded data is yet available via services on
the Integration Showcase server. That's the whole point - until
all the participants in the showcase 'add their piece', you
won't see the complete picture.

Going back to Jody's original point - if you want to be able
to show your software, on your laptop, using the same data
as is available on the Integration Showcase server, then your
best bet is to download the data yourself from the original
data source(s).

It's a different proposition if you want to use your software,
on your laptop, to access data/services that are available
via the Integration Showcase server. For that, you need to
coordinate with Justin.


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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Data for the Integration Showcase

2007-08-23 Thread Bob Basques



Dave Patton wrote:

There are two different, yet related, things
being discussed here:

1)
If you want your own copy of some part of the
data listed on the Canadian Geodata wiki page,
just go and download whatever you want.
http://wiki.osgeo.org/index.php/Canadian_Geodata

Working on this now.


2)
If you want access to Canadian Geodata hosted on
the FOSS4G2007 Integration Showcase server, take
a look at it's wiki page, and keep in mind that
the status of what is available via that server
is in flux. What is available now won't be the
same as what's available at the conference. After
all, maybe _you_ are part of the process of making
more of the data available ;-)
http://wiki.osgeo.org/index.php/FOSS4G2007_IntegrationShowcase
Nope.  Sorry, just trying things out.  I may possible try and find some 
proxy to show our wares though, we'll see where it goes.


Thanks

bobb




Bob Basques wrote:
This would be prefereable, but I wasn't getting that vibe from these 
emails.


bobb



Tyler Mitchell (OSGeo) wrote:
Isn't part of the idea that the db can be hit live during the event 
- or was that a pipe dream?




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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Data for the Integration Showcase

2007-08-23 Thread Justin Deoliveira
Ahh... I see... apologies, I got lost in the various topics of this
thread :).

-Justin

Bob Basques wrote:
  Justin,
 
 I was trying to set up a standalone install.  I was the one confused to
 start wit, sorry about that.
 
 This stand alone service I was thinking about would simply display the
 data in our application as a demonstrator.
 
 I'm not attending the conference either.  Having a standalone interface
 has some promotional advantages on this end.
 
 bobb
 
 
 
 Justin Deoliveira wrote:
 Hi Bob,

 I think I may be getting confused now too... is there a reason you cant
 just hit one of the layers that is currently set up in the refractions
 database? If none of those layers work for you we can work on finding a
 dataset that will.

 -Justin

 Bob Basques wrote:
   
 All,

 Was only trying to set up a web service that I presumed could be listed
 somewhere that would demo our Client with the data that was described, I
 can download the data myself too. 
 Having a DB dump from the PostGIS side, even with some small sub-area
 would work too.  This is just a thought though from my end.

 I'll go and download what I can and see what I can get up and running,
 maybe do a couple of layers first, then come back to the list for
 reaction on it to that point, before going to hard at it.

 Thanks everyone.

 bobb



 Dave Patton wrote:
 
 Jody Garnett wrote:
   
 Bob Basques wrote:
 
 Jody,

 Ok, I must be dense, I don't see a link to any data anywhere on this
 page: http://wiki.osgeo.org/index.php/FOSS4G2007_IntegrationShowcase
 A lot of reference and catalog description links though.

 Is this it?  :http://wiki.osgeo.org/index.php/Canadian_Geodata, not
 exactly obvious from the previous page if you ask me.

 Ok, this is a neat idea, but shouldn't there be one spot with a copy
 of the data someplace, even just a subset of smaller datasets would
 start folks going.   It would make it much easier to get started on
 participation.
   
 I only was aware of the data loaded into the PostGIS database there;
 you can access the database to rip it out onto your machine. But it
 sounds like the data is available separately at the link Dave Patton
 described:
 - http://wiki.osgeo.org/index.php/Canadian_Geodata
 
 The proper place to get the original data is via the
 links on the Canadian Geodata wiki page.

 All of that data was acquired by myself, Jason, and Justin,
 and all of it has physically been loaded onto the server
 that Justin is managing, which hosts the Integration Showcase.

 Not all of the loaded data is yet available via services on
 the Integration Showcase server. That's the whole point - until
 all the participants in the showcase 'add their piece', you
 won't see the complete picture.

 Going back to Jody's original point - if you want to be able
 to show your software, on your laptop, using the same data
 as is available on the Integration Showcase server, then your
 best bet is to download the data yourself from the original
 data source(s).

 It's a different proposition if you want to use your software,
 on your laptop, to access data/services that are available
 via the Integration Showcase server. For that, you need to
 coordinate with Justin.

   
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