Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Gender bias in nominations

2014-07-25 Thread Johan Van de Wauw
All, Other open source projects have excellent information on why less women are participating and more importantly what can be done about it. This is an excellent text: http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Encourage-Women-Linux-HOWTO/ In debian you have the debian women team who has raised awareness about

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Gender bias in nominations

2014-07-25 Thread María Arias de Reyna
On Fri, Jul 25, 2014 at 9:16 AM, Barry Rowlingson < b.rowling...@lancaster.ac.uk> wrote: > On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 11:57 PM, Jeff McKenna > wrote: > > Thank you everyone for responding (María, Jo, Anne, Madi, Andrea, mpg, > > Cameron, and Regina). I agree that the OSGeo community is always > > w

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Gender bias in nominations

2014-07-25 Thread Margherita Di Leo
On Fri, Jul 25, 2014 at 9:16 AM, Barry Rowlingson < b.rowling...@lancaster.ac.uk> wrote: > > > Personally I think the gender imbalance in tech springs from the day > baby girls are first dressed in pink and given dolls and baby boys > dressed in blue and given toy guns. I'm hopeful that society i

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Gender bias in nominations

2014-07-25 Thread Barry Rowlingson
On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 11:57 PM, Jeff McKenna wrote: > Thank you everyone for responding (María, Jo, Anne, Madi, Andrea, mpg, > Cameron, and Regina). I agree that the OSGeo community is always > welcoming, and thank you for confirming that there is no issue with the > election/nomination process

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Gender bias in nominations

2014-07-24 Thread Eli Adam
Reclaiming "Like a girl" to no longer be an insult highlights that language is an important part of our interactions. While on campaigns, here are another two specifically on tech and gender, both with major corporate backing [0][1]. Circling back to OSGeo Charter Member nominations, Jeff receive

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Gender bias in nominations

2014-07-24 Thread Jeff McKenna
*Jo Cook > *Sent:* Thursday, July 24, 2014 10:59 AM > *To:* María Arias de Reyna > *Cc:* osgeo > *Subject:* Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Gender bias in nominations > > I totally agree with Maria. As a female member of OSGeo I don't really > feel that my gender matters in the sli

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Gender bias in nominations

2014-07-24 Thread Paragon Corporation
.osgeo.org [mailto:discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org] On Behalf Of Jo Cook Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2014 10:59 AM To: María Arias de Reyna Cc: osgeo Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Gender bias in nominations I totally agree with Maria. As a female member of OSGeo I don't really feel that my gender matters in the

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Gender bias in nominations

2014-07-24 Thread Cameron Shorter
For those interested in gender bias, you might want to look at this "Like a girl" campaign, which questions the meaning that "Like a girl" has in our language, and suggests redefining it. http://m.dailylife.com.au/life-and-love/parenting-and-families/the-advertising-campaign-that-will-make-you-

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Gender bias in nominations

2014-07-24 Thread Michael P. Gerlek
Jo wrote: > As a female member of OSGeo I don't really feel that my gender matters in the > slightest. Having heard too many sad stories from across the software industry, and having seen a couple first-hand, that totally makes my day. We’re doing something right, folks. Thanks. -mpg __

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Gender bias in nominations

2014-07-24 Thread Andrea Giacomelli
right...I said "for instance" to identify a "population" - does OSGEO have a feel -or even better a number- of the gender proportion in the "OSGEO population? in the 2007-2010 times for GFOSS.it we used to ask about gender (or rather: it was easier to detect the information for members of the Ital

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Gender bias in nominations

2014-07-24 Thread Andrea Giacomelli
quick question: does OSGEO have a feel -or even better a number- of the gender proportion in the "OSGEO population"? (take for instance this mailing list as a proxy). best Andrea http://www.pibinko.org 2014-07-24 17:16 GMT+02:00 Margherita Di Leo : > Hi, > > thank you Jeff for having raised th

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Gender bias in nominations

2014-07-24 Thread Margherita Di Leo
Ciao Andrea, On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 5:43 PM, Andrea Giacomelli wrote: > quick question: does OSGEO have a feel -or even better a number- of the > gender proportion in the "OSGEO population"? (take for instance this > mailing list as a proxy). > When you subscribe this ML you're not (hopefully)

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Gender bias in nominations

2014-07-24 Thread Margherita Di Leo
Hi, thank you Jeff for having raised this matter, I find it really interesting for the sake of pure data analysis and discussion. I agree with Maria except one single point: is it really important? I think it is. As Maria points out, I agree it is not from OSGeo side that the problem should be add

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Gender bias in nominations

2014-07-24 Thread Anne Ghisla
On Thu, 24 Jul 2014 16:55:16 +0200 María Arias de Reyna wrote: > On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 4:45 PM, Jeff McKenna > > wrote: > > > It has been reported to me directly that there are not enough female > > nominations for Charter members. I just want to bring this to the > > attention of the whole

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Gender bias in nominations

2014-07-24 Thread Jeff McKenna
Hi María, I agree with you fully. -jeff On 2014-07-24, 11:55 AM, María Arias de Reyna wrote: > > On the other hand, no one should be nominated just because of their > gender. In the long run, it doesn't help increasing female numbers. (It > won't be the first time someone thinks I am where I a

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Gender bias in nominations

2014-07-24 Thread Jo Cook
I totally agree with Maria. As a female member of OSGeo I don't really feel that my gender matters in the slightest. I'm far more concerned about a bias towards people from the US or Northern/Western Europe if we are trying to be truly global. Jo On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 3:55 PM, María Arias de R

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Gender bias in nominations

2014-07-24 Thread María Arias de Reyna
On Thu, Jul 24, 2014 at 4:45 PM, Jeff McKenna wrote: > It has been reported to me directly that there are not enough female > nominations for Charter members. I just want to bring this to the > attention of the whole community. > > Thanks all, > > -jeff > > Agreed. On the other hand, no one sho

[OSGeo-Discuss] Gender bias in nominations

2014-07-24 Thread Jeff McKenna
It has been reported to me directly that there are not enough female nominations for Charter members. I just want to bring this to the attention of the whole community. Thanks all, -jeff ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.o