Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Greek Inspire Metadata Editor (gimed)
On Tue, Nov 09, 2010 at 04:48:38PM -0800, Alex Mandel wrote: Noted case, how many years it took Flash to really be usable without crazy hacks on linux. Flash is still not usable without crazy hacks if you don't want non-free software on your computer. Free software programmers should pay attention about that. An example of care deficiency is potlatch2/osm [1] dropping support for Gnash [2] [1] http://gnashdev.org/?q=node/72 [2] http://www.gnu.org/software/gnash --strk; () Free GIS Flash consultant/developer /\ http://strk.keybit.net/services.html ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Greek Inspire Metadata Editor (gimed)
Cameron: Why was gimed developed rather than extending GeoNetwork? Angelos: - When developing for HEMCO project, the time frame was very limited and I estimated that a clean implementation would be faster. - The project's specifications were also requiring C# because other non FOSS API's were involved. I (too) was curious about that Angele (talming about C# and Mono). It is not clear to me, as an end-user, if and what dangerous license implications could rise in the future (reading: http://www.fsf.org/news/dont-depend-on-mono). I hope we will find the time to discuss about this and other issues in the upcoming GeoDataCamp in Athens. Cheers, Nikos ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Greek Inspire Metadata Editor (gimed)
Coming late to this discussion, I would point out that the FSF article about Mono is based entirely on conjecture. Particularly this statement: Microsoft is probably planning to force all free C# implementations underground some day using software patents I suspect if the OSGeo world were to base all decisions on the threat of potential future patent litigation, we'd pretty much all just have to close shop and go fishing or become used car salesmen instead of writing software... - Dan On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 3:35 PM, Nikos Alexandris nikos.alexand...@felis.uni-freiburg.de wrote: Cameron: Why was gimed developed rather than extending GeoNetwork? Angelos: - When developing for HEMCO project, the time frame was very limited and I estimated that a clean implementation would be faster. - The project's specifications were also requiring C# because other non FOSS API's were involved. I (too) was curious about that Angele (talming about C# and Mono). It is not clear to me, as an end-user, if and what dangerous license implications could rise in the future (reading: http://www.fsf.org/news/dont-depend-on-mono). I hope we will find the time to discuss about this and other issues in the upcoming GeoDataCamp in Athens. Cheers, Nikos ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss -- Daniel P. Ames, Ph.D. PE Associate Professor, Geosciences Idaho State University - Idaho Falls amesd...@isu.edu geology.isu.edu www.mapwindow.org ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Greek Inspire Metadata Editor (gimed)
I'm more concerned about the lack of direct support for multi-platforms. Of course that implies that MS does a good job of supporting it's platform. Noted case, how many years it took Flash to really be usable without crazy hacks on linux. (OT: Anyone know what's up with Novell possibly selling itself and what that might mean for the future of Mono? - ala the current roll over Oracle's plans for previous Sun merchandise) That said I would love to see some workshops and examples of testing on Mono implementations on all platforms. While .Net isn't my 1st choice there is a place for it and a whole lot of people well entrenched in it, wouldn't hurt to bring them into the Open Source light and realize cross language implementations of infrastructure are not abnormal. Thanks, Alex On 11/09/2010 04:06 PM, Daniel Ames wrote: Coming late to this discussion, I would point out that the FSF article about Mono is based entirely on conjecture. Particularly this statement: Microsoft is probably planning to force all free C# implementations underground some day using software patents I suspect if the OSGeo world were to base all decisions on the threat of potential future patent litigation, we'd pretty much all just have to close shop and go fishing or become used car salesmen instead of writing software... - Dan On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 3:35 PM, Nikos Alexandris nikos.alexand...@felis.uni-freiburg.de wrote: Cameron: Why was gimed developed rather than extending GeoNetwork? Angelos: - When developing for HEMCO project, the time frame was very limited and I estimated that a clean implementation would be faster. - The project's specifications were also requiring C# because other non FOSS API's were involved. I (too) was curious about that Angele (talming about C# and Mono). It is not clear to me, as an end-user, if and what dangerous license implications could rise in the future (reading: http://www.fsf.org/news/dont-depend-on-mono). I hope we will find the time to discuss about this and other issues in the upcoming GeoDataCamp in Athens. Cheers, Nikos ___ ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Greek Inspire Metadata Editor (gimed)
On Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 12:37 AM, Angelos Tzotsos gcpp.kal...@gmail.com wrote: Those software you mention are far more advanced and mature, I agree with you. I can also add MDWeb to the list as a great metadata/catalog software (http://www.mdweb-project.org/) I have added the links to http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Metadata_software Markus ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Greek Inspire Metadata Editor (gimed)
Angelos, I'm interested to understand why someone would use gimed instead of GeoNetwork (the currently established Metadata editor)? What does gimed provide above GeoNetwork? Why was gimed developed rather than extending GeoNetwork? Could gimed be incorporated into GeoNetwork? The other open source package in this space is Geopublisher: http://live.osgeo.org/overview/geopublisher_overview.html On 06/11/10 10:53, Angelos Tzotsos wrote: Hello everyone, I would like to announce the release of gimed, an INSPIRE compliant metadata editor. It is a desktop implementation similar to the interface provided by the INSPIRE Geoportal Metadata Editor. Main features: - Validation of Metadata - Automatic import of geographic bounding box from data files (through gdal). - Cross platform through Mono Features to come: - Batch metadata creation / editing - Import to GeoNetwork Opensource - Support for more reference systems (curently supports greek EPSG:2100) - Support for Data Series The released version is 1.2 beta and can be found here: http://sourceforge.net/projects/gimed/ Anyone who wishes to be involved, is very welcome. Please send suggestions, comments, bugs etc :) Regards, Angelos Tzotsos (aka kalxas) ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss -- Cameron Shorter Geospatial Director Tel: +61 (0)2 8570 5050 Mob: +61 (0)419 142 254 Think Globally, Fix Locally Geospatial Solutions enhanced with Open Standards and Open Source http://www.lisasoft.com ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Greek Inspire Metadata Editor (gimed)
Hi Cameron, Those software you mention are far more advanced and mature, I agree with you. I can also add MDWeb to the list as a great metadata/catalog software (http://www.mdweb-project.org/) I provide some answers below: On 11/06/2010 09:33 PM, Cameron Shorter wrote: Angelos, I'm interested to understand why someone would use gimed instead of GeoNetwork (the currently established Metadata editor)? - In Europe, people not familiar with open source software have been using the JRC Web Inspire Metadata Editor (http://www.inspire-geoportal.eu/index.cfm/pageid/342) for a long time to achieve conformity with Inspire metadata specification (that requires a bit different validation than ISO-19115,e.g. different mandatory fields). Due to this fact, gimed provides an almost identical user interface to this web application , so simple users can use it very quickly. - Until recently, Inspire specifications were not included in GeoNetwork. This has been included only recently with version 2.6 and is very promising. What does gimed provide above GeoNetwork? - Gimed has a goal that is not yet clear (because I have to do a lot of work). I want it to be a batch processing engine. Using scripts I was able to complete the first inspire tender in Greece (HEMCO - Hellenic Mapping and Cadastral Organization) generating almost automatically 45 xml files for aerial photographs of the organization. I need now to provide a more useful GUI in order for this to be demonstrated. The goal is for the user to be able to import 1 million data files and for gimed to create automatically the geographic bounding box. Then gimed should create xml files massively (one xml per data file) while the user has to use the keyboard once for common metadata fields. - It will not include a catalog service or any kind of web application (unless someone does that and lets us know). Why was gimed developed rather than extending GeoNetwork? - When developing for HEMCO project, the time frame was very limited and I estimated that a clean implementation would be faster. - The project's specifications were also requiring C# because other non FOSS API's were involved. Could gimed be incorporated into GeoNetwork? - For such an integration, it has to be ported to Java, right? I am trying to find time to do this, but I would prefer to complete the functionality that I have in mind first. -Any volunteers to help? Best regards, Angelos ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[OSGeo-Discuss] Greek Inspire Metadata Editor (gimed)
Hello everyone, I would like to announce the release of gimed, an INSPIRE compliant metadata editor. It is a desktop implementation similar to the interface provided by the INSPIRE Geoportal Metadata Editor. Main features: - Validation of Metadata - Automatic import of geographic bounding box from data files (through gdal). - Cross platform through Mono Features to come: - Batch metadata creation / editing - Import to GeoNetwork Opensource - Support for more reference systems (curently supports greek EPSG:2100) - Support for Data Series The released version is 1.2 beta and can be found here: http://sourceforge.net/projects/gimed/ Anyone who wishes to be involved, is very welcome. Please send suggestions, comments, bugs etc :) Regards, Angelos Tzotsos (aka kalxas) ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss