Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Greek Inspire Metadata Editor (gimed)

2010-11-11 Thread strk
On Tue, Nov 09, 2010 at 04:48:38PM -0800, Alex Mandel wrote:

 Noted case, how many years it took Flash to really be usable
 without crazy hacks on linux.

Flash is still not usable without crazy hacks if you don't want
non-free software on your computer.

Free software programmers should pay attention about that.
An example of care deficiency is potlatch2/osm [1] dropping
support for Gnash [2]

[1] http://gnashdev.org/?q=node/72
[2] http://www.gnu.org/software/gnash


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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Greek Inspire Metadata Editor (gimed)

2010-11-09 Thread Nikos Alexandris
Cameron: 

  Why was gimed developed rather than extending GeoNetwork?

Angelos:
 
 - When developing for HEMCO project, the time frame was very limited and
 I estimated that a clean implementation would be faster.
 - The project's specifications were also requiring C# because other non
 FOSS API's were involved.

I (too) was curious about that Angele (talming about C# and Mono). It is not 
clear to me, as an end-user, if and what dangerous license implications could 
rise in the future (reading: http://www.fsf.org/news/dont-depend-on-mono).

I hope we will find the time to discuss about this and other issues in the 
upcoming GeoDataCamp in Athens.

Cheers, Nikos
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Greek Inspire Metadata Editor (gimed)

2010-11-09 Thread Daniel Ames
Coming late to this discussion, I would point out that the FSF article about
Mono is based entirely on conjecture. Particularly this statement:

Microsoft is probably planning to force all free C# implementations
underground some day using software patents

I suspect if the OSGeo world were to base all decisions on the threat of
potential future patent litigation, we'd pretty much all just have to close
shop and go fishing or become used car salesmen instead of writing
software...

- Dan


On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 3:35 PM, Nikos Alexandris 
nikos.alexand...@felis.uni-freiburg.de wrote:

 Cameron:

   Why was gimed developed rather than extending GeoNetwork?

 Angelos:

  - When developing for HEMCO project, the time frame was very limited and
  I estimated that a clean implementation would be faster.
  - The project's specifications were also requiring C# because other non
  FOSS API's were involved.

 I (too) was curious about that Angele (talming about C# and Mono). It is
 not
 clear to me, as an end-user, if and what dangerous license implications
 could
 rise in the future (reading: http://www.fsf.org/news/dont-depend-on-mono).

 I hope we will find the time to discuss about this and other issues in the
 upcoming GeoDataCamp in Athens.

 Cheers, Nikos
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Greek Inspire Metadata Editor (gimed)

2010-11-09 Thread Alex Mandel
I'm more concerned about the lack of direct support for multi-platforms.
Of course that implies that MS does a good job of supporting it's
platform. Noted case, how many years it took Flash to really be usable
without crazy hacks on linux. (OT: Anyone know what's up with Novell
possibly selling itself and what that might mean for the future of Mono?
- ala the current roll over Oracle's plans for previous Sun merchandise)

That said I would love to see some workshops and examples of testing on
Mono implementations on all platforms. While .Net isn't my 1st choice
there is a place for it and a whole lot of people well entrenched in it,
wouldn't hurt to bring them into the Open Source light and realize cross
language implementations of infrastructure are not abnormal.

Thanks,
Alex

On 11/09/2010 04:06 PM, Daniel Ames wrote:
 Coming late to this discussion, I would point out that the FSF article about
 Mono is based entirely on conjecture. Particularly this statement:
 
 Microsoft is probably planning to force all free C# implementations
 underground some day using software patents
 
 I suspect if the OSGeo world were to base all decisions on the threat of
 potential future patent litigation, we'd pretty much all just have to close
 shop and go fishing or become used car salesmen instead of writing
 software...
 
 - Dan
 
 
 On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 3:35 PM, Nikos Alexandris 
 nikos.alexand...@felis.uni-freiburg.de wrote:
 
 Cameron:

 Why was gimed developed rather than extending GeoNetwork?

 Angelos:

 - When developing for HEMCO project, the time frame was very limited and
 I estimated that a clean implementation would be faster.
 - The project's specifications were also requiring C# because other non
 FOSS API's were involved.

 I (too) was curious about that Angele (talming about C# and Mono). It is
 not
 clear to me, as an end-user, if and what dangerous license implications
 could
 rise in the future (reading: http://www.fsf.org/news/dont-depend-on-mono).

 I hope we will find the time to discuss about this and other issues in the
 upcoming GeoDataCamp in Athens.

 Cheers, Nikos
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Greek Inspire Metadata Editor (gimed)

2010-11-07 Thread Markus Neteler
On Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 12:37 AM, Angelos Tzotsos gcpp.kal...@gmail.com wrote:
 Those software you mention are far more advanced and mature, I agree with
 you.
 I can also add MDWeb to the list as a great metadata/catalog software
 (http://www.mdweb-project.org/)

I have added the links to
http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Metadata_software

Markus
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Greek Inspire Metadata Editor (gimed)

2010-11-06 Thread Cameron Shorter

Angelos,
I'm interested to understand why someone would use gimed instead of 
GeoNetwork (the currently established Metadata editor)?

What does gimed provide above GeoNetwork?
Why was gimed developed rather than extending GeoNetwork?
Could gimed be incorporated into GeoNetwork?

The other open source package in this space is Geopublisher:
http://live.osgeo.org/overview/geopublisher_overview.html

On 06/11/10 10:53, Angelos Tzotsos wrote:

 Hello everyone,

I would like to announce the release of gimed, an INSPIRE compliant 
metadata editor.
It is a desktop implementation similar to the interface provided by 
the INSPIRE Geoportal Metadata Editor.


Main features:
- Validation of Metadata
- Automatic import of geographic bounding box from data files (through 
gdal).

- Cross platform through Mono


Features to come:
- Batch metadata creation / editing
- Import to GeoNetwork Opensource
- Support for more reference systems (curently supports greek EPSG:2100)
- Support for Data Series

The released version is 1.2 beta and can be found here:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/gimed/

Anyone who wishes to be involved, is very welcome.
Please send suggestions, comments, bugs etc :)

Regards,
Angelos Tzotsos (aka kalxas)


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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Greek Inspire Metadata Editor (gimed)

2010-11-06 Thread Angelos Tzotsos

 Hi Cameron,

Those software you mention are far more advanced and mature, I agree 
with you.
I can also add MDWeb to the list as a great metadata/catalog software 
(http://www.mdweb-project.org/)

I provide some answers below:

On 11/06/2010 09:33 PM, Cameron Shorter wrote:

Angelos,
I'm interested to understand why someone would use gimed instead of 
GeoNetwork (the currently established Metadata editor)?
- In Europe, people not familiar with open source software have been 
using the JRC Web Inspire Metadata Editor 
(http://www.inspire-geoportal.eu/index.cfm/pageid/342) for a long time 
to achieve conformity with Inspire metadata specification (that requires 
a bit different validation than ISO-19115,e.g. different mandatory 
fields). Due to this fact, gimed provides an almost identical user 
interface to this web application , so simple users can use it very quickly.
- Until recently, Inspire specifications were not included in 
GeoNetwork. This has been included only recently with version 2.6 and is 
very promising.



What does gimed provide above GeoNetwork?


- Gimed has a goal that is not yet clear (because I have to do a lot of 
work). I want it to be a batch processing engine. Using scripts I was 
able to complete the first inspire tender in Greece (HEMCO - Hellenic 
Mapping and Cadastral Organization) generating almost automatically 
45 xml files for aerial photographs of the organization. I need now 
to provide a more useful GUI in order for this to be demonstrated. The 
goal is for the user to be able to import 1 million data files and for 
gimed to create automatically the geographic bounding box. Then gimed 
should create xml files massively (one xml per data file) while the user 
has to use the keyboard once for common metadata fields.
- It will not include a catalog service or any kind of web application 
(unless someone does that and lets us know).



Why was gimed developed rather than extending GeoNetwork?
- When developing for HEMCO project, the time frame was very limited and 
I estimated that a clean implementation would be faster.
- The project's specifications were also requiring C# because other non 
FOSS API's were involved.



Could gimed be incorporated into GeoNetwork?
- For such an integration, it has to be ported to Java, right? I am 
trying to find time to do this, but I would prefer to complete the 
functionality that I have in mind first.

-Any volunteers to help?

Best regards,
Angelos

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[OSGeo-Discuss] Greek Inspire Metadata Editor (gimed)

2010-11-05 Thread Angelos Tzotsos

 Hello everyone,

I would like to announce the release of gimed, an INSPIRE compliant 
metadata editor.
It is a desktop implementation similar to the interface provided by the 
INSPIRE Geoportal Metadata Editor.


Main features:
- Validation of Metadata
- Automatic import of geographic bounding box from data files (through 
gdal).

- Cross platform through Mono


Features to come:
- Batch metadata creation / editing
- Import to GeoNetwork Opensource
- Support for more reference systems (curently supports greek EPSG:2100)
- Support for Data Series

The released version is 1.2 beta and can be found here:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/gimed/

Anyone who wishes to be involved, is very welcome.
Please send suggestions, comments, bugs etc :)

Regards,
Angelos Tzotsos (aka kalxas)


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