Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo Journal Now Available

2007-05-18 Thread Eduardo Patto Kanegae

Hi Tyler,

First of all, congratulations to each contributor of this volume. That was a
very nice publication!

Then, back to translation topics: I think that translate all OSGEO-News or
even part of them,
can be very expensive - time and manpower.
Of course that institucional articles/texts such as Who is OSGEO, Why
OSGEO, How to contrin should be translated
to get as much readers as it can. It's just like GPL : it was translated to
a lot of languages.

But, maybe another way should be to open an international section or
Local OSGEO texts
to let authors and contributors to write about their local scenarios and
situations.
Sometimes to translate a case A could not make sense for a reader B who
will never see that enviromental or economic situation in his country.

Some persons could prefer to write in their own languages and then, to have
more freedom to create their own texts.

On the other hand, for each local written contrib,
at least two local revisors should be available to ensure text quality.

best regards,


Eduardo Patto Kanegae


On 5/16/07, Tyler Mitchell (OSGeo) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Thanks for the enthusiasm.  We manage all the files using a
subversion repository, so all source code is definitely available.
I'm not sure how we could best manage translations using svn.  Any
suggestions from svn power users out there?  Should we make a branch
for each language?  I'm new at this...

Tyler

On 16-May-07, at 2:21 AM, Jacolin Yves wrote:

 Hi,

 On Wednesday 16 May 2007 11:15:05 Markus Neteler, wrote :
 [..]
 I wonder if this is permissive for translations. We need to select a
 licence (and urgently add it to the site, better also in the PDF)
 which supports translations.
 How can we translate this document? As Markus Neteler noted it, is it
 possible? Can we have access to the file?

 I don't know if I/we will do it, but some french people are ready
 to work on
 some page.

 Thanks

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo Journal Now Available

2007-05-16 Thread Markus Neteler

Congrats to all contributors!

On 5/15/07, Allan Doyle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Thanks Tyler - this is fantastic! I'm learning a lot already, reading
through it.

It would be good to clarify the copyright on the journal. Right now,
on page 70, it says all articles are copyrighted by the respective
authors, and that's probably as it should be. But it's unclear how
anyone could reproduce copies of the journal.

For instance, is it ok to post a copy on another web site? Is it ok
to print 5 copies for a small office? Could the UN print and mail
copies to a number of field offices? Can copies be distributed on a
CD? etc. etc.

I think this could be solved with a CC-Attribution-NoDerivs or maybe
the non-commercial version of that license that covers the entire
journal issue. (I can't look up the real CC license version, their
site seems to be suffering some malady right now).


This should be the link:
http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nd/3.0/
Attribution-NoDerivs 3.0 Unported

I wonder if this is permissive for translations. We need to select a
licence (and urgently add it to the site, better also in the PDF)
which supports translations.

Here is the shopping list of license:
http://creativecommons.org/licenses/

Markus


Then people could print entire copies but would have to get
permission from the authors to make copies of individual articles.

Allan

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo Journal Now Available

2007-05-16 Thread Paulo Marcondes

2007/5/16, Tyler Mitchell (OSGeo) [EMAIL PROTECTED]:


On 15-May-07, at 1:06 PM, Helton Uchoa wrote:

 Is there any information about permission for publish in another
 language?

Good question.  Before I tackle the republishing rights question, I'd
like to know if there are any others out there who are hoping to
translate some/all of the Journal?


I think I can work together with Helton in the Portuguese translation.
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo Journal Now Available

2007-05-16 Thread Daniel Ames

This may be a good time to mention a thread that Tyler and I discussed
a month ago with respect to the OSGeo Journal.

I suggested that we explore the option of having 2-4 peer reviewed
science type journal articles in future editions in addition to the
project updates and other types of articles, and I volunteered to help
coordinate the peer-review process. I'd be interested to know what
others think of this.  Would anyone else find it useful to have a
FOSS4G oriented  peer-reviewed journal article outlet? Anyone else to
volunteer for a peer review process? (Tyler are you still interested
in this idea?) - Dan

On 5/16/07, Paulo Marcondes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

2007/5/16, Tyler Mitchell (OSGeo) [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 On 15-May-07, at 1:06 PM, Helton Uchoa wrote:

  Is there any information about permission for publish in another
  language?

 Good question.  Before I tackle the republishing rights question, I'd
 like to know if there are any others out there who are hoping to
 translate some/all of the Journal?

I think I can work together with Helton in the Portuguese translation.
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo Journal Now Available

2007-05-16 Thread Dan Putler

Hi Dan,

It is an interesting idea. Although, I think some thought would need  
to be put into the scope of the articles that would be a fit for this  
outlet. Would the focus be on scientific analysis that happened to be  
carried out using FOSS4G products, or would it be about software  
tools specifically developed to carryout scientific analyses? What  
would be the discipline scope of the articles? Could your paper on a  
study of the impact of irrigation run-off in the Snake River water  
shed be next to mine on my new model for retail site location that  
addresses demand from local residential and workforce population,  
along with demand from mobile customers (allowing us to have a  
hydrology and a marketing paper side-by-side)?


In any event, I'm very interested in the idea, and would be willing  
to be part of a committee on  the topic, which seems like the logical  
next step if there is any interest.


Dan

On 16-May-07, at 11:12 AM, Daniel Ames wrote:


This may be a good time to mention a thread that Tyler and I discussed
a month ago with respect to the OSGeo Journal.

I suggested that we explore the option of having 2-4 peer reviewed
science type journal articles in future editions in addition to the
project updates and other types of articles, and I volunteered to help
coordinate the peer-review process. I'd be interested to know what
others think of this.  Would anyone else find it useful to have a
FOSS4G oriented  peer-reviewed journal article outlet? Anyone else to
volunteer for a peer review process? (Tyler are you still interested
in this idea?) - Dan

On 5/16/07, Paulo Marcondes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

2007/5/16, Tyler Mitchell (OSGeo) [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 On 15-May-07, at 1:06 PM, Helton Uchoa wrote:

  Is there any information about permission for publish in another
  language?

 Good question.  Before I tackle the republishing rights  
question, I'd

 like to know if there are any others out there who are hoping to
 translate some/all of the Journal?

I think I can work together with Helton in the Portuguese  
translation.

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo Journal Now Available

2007-05-16 Thread Markus Neteler

On 5/16/07, Daniel Ames [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

This may be a good time to mention a thread that Tyler and I discussed
a month ago with respect to the OSGeo Journal.

I suggested that we explore the option of having 2-4 peer reviewed
science type journal articles in future editions in addition to the
project updates and other types of articles, and I volunteered to help
coordinate the peer-review process. I'd be interested to know what
others think of this.  Would anyone else find it useful to have a
FOSS4G oriented  peer-reviewed journal article outlet? Anyone else to
volunteer for a peer review process? (Tyler are you still interested
in this idea?) - Dan


Something like
 Source Code for Biology and Medicine
 http://www.scfbm.org/
comes to mind which is an Open Access Journal.

Markus
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[OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo Journal Now Available

2007-05-15 Thread Tyler Mitchell

It is my pleasure to announce that Volume 1 of the OSGeo Journal is
now available for your reading pleasure!

http://www.osgeo.org/journal/volume1

This is the first volume of the new Journal and includes many
interesting articles, news and updates from our open source
communities.

We already have some content ready for Volume 2 and have learned many
lessons along the way that will help the next volume be even better.

A big thanks to the editorial team for their hard work in pulling it
all together and to all the great contributions we received from
writers, developers, users and project teams.  I'm excited to see that
we can promote projects, educate readers and provide news/info all in
our own professional publication.

I hope you enjoy it!

Sincerely,
Tyler

p.s. Please note that the Journal has an official ISSN number
(1994-1897) that you can cite in your formal bibliographic references.
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo Journal Now Available

2007-05-15 Thread Allan Doyle
Thanks Tyler - this is fantastic! I'm learning a lot already, reading  
through it.


It would be good to clarify the copyright on the journal. Right now,  
on page 70, it says all articles are copyrighted by the respective  
authors, and that's probably as it should be. But it's unclear how  
anyone could reproduce copies of the journal.


For instance, is it ok to post a copy on another web site? Is it ok  
to print 5 copies for a small office? Could the UN print and mail  
copies to a number of field offices? Can copies be distributed on a  
CD? etc. etc.


I think this could be solved with a CC-Attribution-NoDerivs or maybe  
the non-commercial version of that license that covers the entire  
journal issue. (I can't look up the real CC license version, their  
site seems to be suffering some malady right now).


Then people could print entire copies but would have to get  
permission from the authors to make copies of individual articles.


Allan

On May 15, 2007, at 10:54, Tyler Mitchell wrote:


It is my pleasure to announce that Volume 1 of the OSGeo Journal is
now available for your reading pleasure!

http://www.osgeo.org/journal/volume1

This is the first volume of the new Journal and includes many
interesting articles, news and updates from our open source
communities.

We already have some content ready for Volume 2 and have learned many
lessons along the way that will help the next volume be even better.

A big thanks to the editorial team for their hard work in pulling it
all together and to all the great contributions we received from
writers, developers, users and project teams.  I'm excited to see that
we can promote projects, educate readers and provide news/info all in
our own professional publication.

I hope you enjoy it!

Sincerely,
Tyler

p.s. Please note that the Journal has an official ISSN number
(1994-1897) that you can cite in your formal bibliographic references.
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