Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo in Belgium
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 17.03.2015 23:34, Johan Van de Wauw wrote: On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 10:47 AM, Dirk Frigne dirk.fri...@geosparc.com wrote: 1. Do you agree with the fact that we investigate how we can join forces with the open knowledge foundation Belgium to start up the Belgium chapter of OSGeo We should definitely work together. I believe we should first set our goals with OSGeo Belgium and then choose whether it makes sense to be under their umbrella. Kind Regards, Johan ...sounds like a good plan. This mail is purposefully cross posted to the Local Chapters Mailing List [0] since that is the place where we try to collect information for folks interested in acting locally. Just a few notes from experience: Running a legal entity to organize things actually eats up a good chunk of volunteer resources which could be better used to actually promote Open Source, organize conferences and so on. The German language chapter as we call it, operates a legal entity, the FOSSGIS e.V. [1]. This did not prevent us from having the 2013 edition of the annual FOSSGIS conference take place in Rapperswil, Switzerland [2] (Note to foreigners: Swiss are *not* Germans and typically also speak French, Italian and Romansh). Same for Austria where we have an OSGeo Day at every AGIT [3] conference since 2006 and will have a full fledged German language FOSSGIS conference in 2016 (a few months prior to FOSS4G in Bonn). Next note to foreigners: Never ever even suggest to an Austrian that she is German :-) So we (the OSGeo tribe at large) try to cater for everybody who speaks the same language here and at the same time minimize the effort we need to put into operating a legal entity. Even OpenStreetMap likes us and uses the FOSSGIS e.V. as the legal body to manage their local budget, fund their servers, accounting, GPS rental and so on. This is just an example how things can work together even across cultural differences and that you do not need to have a legal entity in place to organize national or regional conferences and meetings. Have fun, Arnulf [0] http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/local-chapters [1] http://www.fossgis.de/ [2] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/FOSSGIS_2013 [3] http://www.agit.at/ - -- Arnulf Christl (Director) The metaspatial Institute Certification: Open Source - Open Data - Open Standards http://www.metaspatial.net/en/institute -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAlUJPuAACgkQXmFKW+BJ1b12BACcCAj9zenrLPUhJvPDaf4+oZ0B excAniBBqUWczVGsEookCpgscq197zCS =jOJ6 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo in Belgium
Hi Dirk ! I'm very intersted, I would be glad to join you for this first meeting in Brussels ! See you soon, Maë//e 2015-03-17 23:34 GMT+01:00 Johan Van de Wauw johan.vandew...@gmail.com: On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 10:47 AM, Dirk Frigne dirk.fri...@geosparc.com wrote: 1. Do you agree with the fact that we investigate how we can join forces with the open knowledge foundation Belgium to start up the Belgium chapter of OSGeo We should definitely work together. I believe we should first set our goals with OSGeo Belgium and then choose whether it makes sense to be under their umbrella. Kind Regards, Johan ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss -- Maëlle VERCAUTEREN DRUBBEL Coordinatrice du stage SIG Libres ARES Université Libre de Bruxelles - IGEAT (CP 130 / 03) Av. F. D. Roosevelt, 50 B-1050 Bruxelles Tél.: 02/650.68.14 Fax: 02/650.50.92 Local: DB6.143 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo in Belgium
Thanks for your reaction Gert-Jan, Some people are indeed cross-border Open Source Geo, but many arn't. To address these people, such a local chapter can be interesting to learn them about the OSGeo solutions. my2c D. On 17-03-15 22:07, Gert-Jan van der Weijden - Stichting OSGeo.nl wrote: Hi Dirk, To be honest, I am a bit ambiguous about this. Recently I've seen several cross-border Open Source Geo (and OpenStreetMap) development: people from Holland visiting Belgian events, and people from Leuven, Mechelen and Antwerp crossing the border northbound. I encourage that very much, especially since it distinguishes us from the classical (mainly closed source) community. However, I can also understand the willingness to form a local (bi- or even tri-lingual?) Belgian OSGeo-chapter. I hope you can discuss this in the meeting to be held in Brussels. I might even come over to Brussels. Not especially to persuade you to join us in a Dutch-speaking local chapter ;-) But mainly to discuss how we can co-operate to keep the best of both worlds: a local base, but still the willingness to look across (state-)borders. After all, for that same reason 9 people from Holland took part at the recent German-speaking FOSSGIS-conference in Münster ;-) Keep us through this list informed when the Brussels meeting will be held! Greetings from above the Moerdijk, Gert-Jan Chair of the dutch(-speaking) local chapter OSGeo.nl -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org [mailto:discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org] Namens Jeff McKenna Verzonden: dinsdag 17 maart 2015 13:44 Aan: discuss@lists.osgeo.org Onderwerp: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo in Belgium Hi Dirk, Wonderful idea, please include me in your updates for this chapter, as I like to follow along the progress. Would this possible chapter be looking at getting involved in something like the Open Belgium conference[1], with a geospatial track? [1] http://2015.openbelgium.be/ -jeff On 2015-03-17 6:47 AM, Dirk Frigne wrote: Dear list, Following some contacts I had since FOSDEM 2015, I think there is some opportunity to start with a local chapter in Belgium. There is already the .nl (dutch speaking chapter)[1] and the .fr (french speaking chapter)[2], but a local chapter has other benifits (bringing OSGeo closer to the local people). We want to organize a physical meeting with the local OSGeo people in Belgium to see if there is enough critical mass and interest to start with a local chapter. I also talked with Pieter Colpaert[3] in cc, active in the open knowledge foundation in Belgium. As they have already a legal non profit structure, where also the local chapter of OSM Belgium [4] has a place, we cooperate with this organisation and become also a working group under the umbrella of the open knowledge foundation. So 2 questions to the community: 1. Do you agree with the fact that we investigate how we can join forces with the open knowledge foundation Belgium to start up the Belgium chapter of OSGeo 2. Who is interested to Join a physical meeting in Brussels to find out if there is support for a OSGeo Belgium Chapter? For this second question, you may mail me directly, so we don't over post this list. I'll send out a doodle end of the week to the list, but will also include everybody showing interest. thanks in advance for your reaction, Dirk [1] http://osgeo.nl/ [2] http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Francophone [3] http://www.openknowledge.be/ [4] http://osm.be/ ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss -- Yours sincerely, ir. Dirk Frigne CEO Geosparc n.v. Brugsesteenweg 587 B-9030 Ghent Tel: +32 9 236 60 18 GSM: +32 495 508 799 http://www.geomajas.org http://www.geosparc.com ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo in Belgium
Hi Dirk, To be honest, I am a bit ambiguous about this. Recently I've seen several cross-border Open Source Geo (and OpenStreetMap) development: people from Holland visiting Belgian events, and people from Leuven, Mechelen and Antwerp crossing the border northbound. I encourage that very much, especially since it distinguishes us from the classical (mainly closed source) community. However, I can also understand the willingness to form a local (bi- or even tri-lingual?) Belgian OSGeo-chapter. I hope you can discuss this in the meeting to be held in Brussels. I might even come over to Brussels. Not especially to persuade you to join us in a Dutch-speaking local chapter ;-) But mainly to discuss how we can co-operate to keep the best of both worlds: a local base, but still the willingness to look across (state-)borders. After all, for that same reason 9 people from Holland took part at the recent German-speaking FOSSGIS-conference in Münster ;-) Keep us through this list informed when the Brussels meeting will be held! Greetings from above the Moerdijk, Gert-Jan Chair of the dutch(-speaking) local chapter OSGeo.nl -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org [mailto:discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org] Namens Jeff McKenna Verzonden: dinsdag 17 maart 2015 13:44 Aan: discuss@lists.osgeo.org Onderwerp: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo in Belgium Hi Dirk, Wonderful idea, please include me in your updates for this chapter, as I like to follow along the progress. Would this possible chapter be looking at getting involved in something like the Open Belgium conference[1], with a geospatial track? [1] http://2015.openbelgium.be/ -jeff On 2015-03-17 6:47 AM, Dirk Frigne wrote: Dear list, Following some contacts I had since FOSDEM 2015, I think there is some opportunity to start with a local chapter in Belgium. There is already the .nl (dutch speaking chapter)[1] and the .fr (french speaking chapter)[2], but a local chapter has other benifits (bringing OSGeo closer to the local people). We want to organize a physical meeting with the local OSGeo people in Belgium to see if there is enough critical mass and interest to start with a local chapter. I also talked with Pieter Colpaert[3] in cc, active in the open knowledge foundation in Belgium. As they have already a legal non profit structure, where also the local chapter of OSM Belgium [4] has a place, we cooperate with this organisation and become also a working group under the umbrella of the open knowledge foundation. So 2 questions to the community: 1. Do you agree with the fact that we investigate how we can join forces with the open knowledge foundation Belgium to start up the Belgium chapter of OSGeo 2. Who is interested to Join a physical meeting in Brussels to find out if there is support for a OSGeo Belgium Chapter? For this second question, you may mail me directly, so we don't over post this list. I'll send out a doodle end of the week to the list, but will also include everybody showing interest. thanks in advance for your reaction, Dirk [1] http://osgeo.nl/ [2] http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Francophone [3] http://www.openknowledge.be/ [4] http://osm.be/ ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo in Belgium
Dear list, Following some contacts I had since FOSDEM 2015, I think there is some opportunity to start with a local chapter in Belgium. There is already the .nl (dutch speaking chapter)[1] and the .fr (french speaking chapter)[2], but a local chapter has other benifits (bringing OSGeo closer to the local people). We want to organize a physical meeting with the local OSGeo people in Belgium to see if there is enough critical mass and interest to start with a local chapter. I also talked with Pieter Colpaert[3] in cc, active in the open knowledge foundation in Belgium. As they have already a legal non profit structure, where also the local chapter of OSM Belgium [4] has a place, we cooperate with this organisation and become also a working group under the umbrella of the open knowledge foundation. So 2 questions to the community: 1. Do you agree with the fact that we investigate how we can join forces with the open knowledge foundation Belgium to start up the Belgium chapter of OSGeo 2. Who is interested to Join a physical meeting in Brussels to find out if there is support for a OSGeo Belgium Chapter? For this second question, you may mail me directly, so we don't over post this list. I'll send out a doodle end of the week to the list, but will also include everybody showing interest. thanks in advance for your reaction, Dirk [1] http://osgeo.nl/ [2] http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Francophone [3] http://www.openknowledge.be/ [4] http://osm.be/ -- Yours sincerely, ir. Dirk Frigne CEO Geosparc n.v. Brugsesteenweg 587 B-9030 Ghent Tel: +32 9 236 60 18 GSM: +32 495 508 799 http://www.geomajas.org http://www.geosparc.com ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo in Belgium
Maybe a euroland chapter? Or a gitmo nation lowlands chapter? In the morning! 2015-03-17 11:36 GMT+01:00 Jachym Cepicky jachym.cepi...@gmail.com: Go, Belgium, gogogo! út 17. 3. 2015 v 11:08 odesílatel Dirk Frigne dirk.fri...@geosparc.com napsal: Dear list, Following some contacts I had since FOSDEM 2015, I think there is some opportunity to start with a local chapter in Belgium. There is already the .nl (dutch speaking chapter)[1] and the .fr (french speaking chapter)[2], but a local chapter has other benifits (bringing OSGeo closer to the local people). We want to organize a physical meeting with the local OSGeo people in Belgium to see if there is enough critical mass and interest to start with a local chapter. I also talked with Pieter Colpaert[3] in cc, active in the open knowledge foundation in Belgium. As they have already a legal non profit structure, where also the local chapter of OSM Belgium [4] has a place, we cooperate with this organisation and become also a working group under the umbrella of the open knowledge foundation. So 2 questions to the community: 1. Do you agree with the fact that we investigate how we can join forces with the open knowledge foundation Belgium to start up the Belgium chapter of OSGeo 2. Who is interested to Join a physical meeting in Brussels to find out if there is support for a OSGeo Belgium Chapter? For this second question, you may mail me directly, so we don't over post this list. I'll send out a doodle end of the week to the list, but will also include everybody showing interest. thanks in advance for your reaction, Dirk [1] http://osgeo.nl/ [2] http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Francophone [3] http://www.openknowledge.be/ [4] http://osm.be/ -- Yours sincerely, ir. Dirk Frigne CEO Geosparc n.v. Brugsesteenweg 587 B-9030 Ghent Tel: +32 9 236 60 18 GSM: +32 495 508 799 http://www.geomajas.org http://www.geosparc.com ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss -- Milo van der Linden dogodigi t: +31-6-16598808 ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo in Belgium
Go, Belgium, gogogo! út 17. 3. 2015 v 11:08 odesílatel Dirk Frigne dirk.fri...@geosparc.com napsal: Dear list, Following some contacts I had since FOSDEM 2015, I think there is some opportunity to start with a local chapter in Belgium. There is already the .nl (dutch speaking chapter)[1] and the .fr (french speaking chapter)[2], but a local chapter has other benifits (bringing OSGeo closer to the local people). We want to organize a physical meeting with the local OSGeo people in Belgium to see if there is enough critical mass and interest to start with a local chapter. I also talked with Pieter Colpaert[3] in cc, active in the open knowledge foundation in Belgium. As they have already a legal non profit structure, where also the local chapter of OSM Belgium [4] has a place, we cooperate with this organisation and become also a working group under the umbrella of the open knowledge foundation. So 2 questions to the community: 1. Do you agree with the fact that we investigate how we can join forces with the open knowledge foundation Belgium to start up the Belgium chapter of OSGeo 2. Who is interested to Join a physical meeting in Brussels to find out if there is support for a OSGeo Belgium Chapter? For this second question, you may mail me directly, so we don't over post this list. I'll send out a doodle end of the week to the list, but will also include everybody showing interest. thanks in advance for your reaction, Dirk [1] http://osgeo.nl/ [2] http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Francophone [3] http://www.openknowledge.be/ [4] http://osm.be/ -- Yours sincerely, ir. Dirk Frigne CEO Geosparc n.v. Brugsesteenweg 587 B-9030 Ghent Tel: +32 9 236 60 18 GSM: +32 495 508 799 http://www.geomajas.org http://www.geosparc.com ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo in Belgium
On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 10:42 PM, Dirk Frigne dirk.fri...@geosparc.com wrote: Thanks for your reaction Gert-Jan, Some people are indeed cross-border Open Source Geo, but many arn't. To address these people, such a local chapter can be interesting to learn them about the OSGeo solutions. I agree with Dirk (and said so before [1]) that we definitely need a local conference if we want to reach out to end-users. Small firms, local and regional governmentsare not very likely to join a conference in a different country. And many of them have attended the previous two events we had in Ghent and Brussels. In both cases attendance exceeded the expectations, and inscriptions for the conference in Brussels had to be closed. This does not exclude cooperating with the dutch/french language chapters. Kind Regards, Johan [1] http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/discuss/2014-September/013538.html ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo in Belgium
On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 10:47 AM, Dirk Frigne dirk.fri...@geosparc.com wrote: 1. Do you agree with the fact that we investigate how we can join forces with the open knowledge foundation Belgium to start up the Belgium chapter of OSGeo We should definitely work together. I believe we should first set our goals with OSGeo Belgium and then choose whether it makes sense to be under their umbrella. Kind Regards, Johan ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo in Belgium
OK. I'll make it an Agenda topic. On 17-03-15 23:34, Johan Van de Wauw wrote: On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 10:47 AM, Dirk Frigne dirk.fri...@geosparc.com wrote: 1. Do you agree with the fact that we investigate how we can join forces with the open knowledge foundation Belgium to start up the Belgium chapter of OSGeo We should definitely work together. I believe we should first set our goals with OSGeo Belgium and then choose whether it makes sense to be under their umbrella. Kind Regards, Johan -- Yours sincerely, ir. Dirk Frigne CEO Geosparc n.v. Brugsesteenweg 587 B-9030 Ghent Tel: +32 9 236 60 18 GSM: +32 495 508 799 http://www.geomajas.org http://www.geosparc.com ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo in Belgium
Hi Dirk, Wonderful idea, please include me in your updates for this chapter, as I like to follow along the progress. Would this possible chapter be looking at getting involved in something like the Open Belgium conference[1], with a geospatial track? [1] http://2015.openbelgium.be/ -jeff On 2015-03-17 6:47 AM, Dirk Frigne wrote: Dear list, Following some contacts I had since FOSDEM 2015, I think there is some opportunity to start with a local chapter in Belgium. There is already the .nl (dutch speaking chapter)[1] and the .fr (french speaking chapter)[2], but a local chapter has other benifits (bringing OSGeo closer to the local people). We want to organize a physical meeting with the local OSGeo people in Belgium to see if there is enough critical mass and interest to start with a local chapter. I also talked with Pieter Colpaert[3] in cc, active in the open knowledge foundation in Belgium. As they have already a legal non profit structure, where also the local chapter of OSM Belgium [4] has a place, we cooperate with this organisation and become also a working group under the umbrella of the open knowledge foundation. So 2 questions to the community: 1. Do you agree with the fact that we investigate how we can join forces with the open knowledge foundation Belgium to start up the Belgium chapter of OSGeo 2. Who is interested to Join a physical meeting in Brussels to find out if there is support for a OSGeo Belgium Chapter? For this second question, you may mail me directly, so we don't over post this list. I'll send out a doodle end of the week to the list, but will also include everybody showing interest. thanks in advance for your reaction, Dirk [1] http://osgeo.nl/ [2] http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Francophone [3] http://www.openknowledge.be/ [4] http://osm.be/ ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss