Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo in Belgium

2015-03-18 Thread Arnulf Christl
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On 17.03.2015 23:34, Johan Van de Wauw wrote:
 On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 10:47 AM, Dirk Frigne dirk.fri...@geosparc.com 
 wrote:
 1. Do you agree with the fact that we investigate how we can join forces
 with the open knowledge foundation Belgium to start up the Belgium
 chapter of OSGeo
 We should definitely work together. I believe we should first set our
 goals with OSGeo Belgium and then choose whether it makes sense to be
 under their umbrella.
 
 Kind Regards,
 
 Johan

...sounds like a good plan.


This mail is purposefully cross posted to the Local Chapters Mailing
List [0] since that is the place where we try to collect information for
folks interested in acting locally.


Just a few notes from experience: Running a legal entity to organize
things actually eats up a good chunk of volunteer resources which could
be better used to actually promote Open Source, organize conferences and
so on.

The German language chapter as we call it, operates a legal entity,
the FOSSGIS e.V. [1]. This did not prevent us from having the 2013
edition of the annual FOSSGIS conference take place in Rapperswil,
Switzerland [2] (Note to foreigners: Swiss are *not* Germans and
typically also speak French, Italian and Romansh).

Same for Austria where we have an OSGeo Day at every AGIT [3] conference
since 2006 and will have a full fledged German language FOSSGIS
conference in 2016 (a few months prior to FOSS4G in Bonn). Next note to
foreigners: Never ever even suggest to an Austrian that she is German :-)

So we (the OSGeo tribe at large) try to cater for everybody who speaks
the same language here and at the same time minimize the effort we need
to put into operating a legal entity. Even OpenStreetMap likes us and
uses the FOSSGIS e.V. as the legal body to manage their local budget,
fund their servers, accounting, GPS rental and so on.

This is just an example how things can work together even across
cultural differences and that you do not need to have a legal entity in
place to organize national or regional conferences and meetings.


Have fun,
Arnulf

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[1] http://www.fossgis.de/
[2] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/FOSSGIS_2013
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo in Belgium

2015-03-18 Thread Maelle Vercauteren
 Hi Dirk !

I'm very intersted, I would be glad to join you for this first meeting in
Brussels !

See you soon,

Maë//e

2015-03-17 23:34 GMT+01:00 Johan Van de Wauw johan.vandew...@gmail.com:

 On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 10:47 AM, Dirk Frigne dirk.fri...@geosparc.com
 wrote:
  1. Do you agree with the fact that we investigate how we can join forces
  with the open knowledge foundation Belgium to start up the Belgium
  chapter of OSGeo
 We should definitely work together. I believe we should first set our
 goals with OSGeo Belgium and then choose whether it makes sense to be
 under their umbrella.

 Kind Regards,

 Johan
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo in Belgium

2015-03-17 Thread Dirk Frigne
Thanks for your reaction Gert-Jan,

Some people are indeed cross-border Open Source Geo, but many arn't.
To address these people, such a local chapter can be interesting to
learn them about the OSGeo solutions.

my2c
D.


On 17-03-15 22:07, Gert-Jan van der Weijden - Stichting OSGeo.nl wrote:
 Hi Dirk,
 
 
 To be honest, I am a bit ambiguous about this. 
 Recently I've seen several cross-border Open Source Geo (and OpenStreetMap)
 development: people from Holland visiting Belgian events, and people from
 Leuven, Mechelen and Antwerp crossing the border northbound. I encourage
 that very much, especially since it distinguishes us from the classical
 (mainly closed source) community. 
 
 However, I can also understand the willingness to form a local (bi- or even
 tri-lingual?) Belgian OSGeo-chapter.
 I hope you can discuss this in the meeting to be held in Brussels.
 
 I might even come over to Brussels. Not especially to persuade you to join
 us in a Dutch-speaking local chapter ;-)
 But mainly to discuss how we can co-operate to keep the best of both worlds:
 a local base, but still the willingness to look across (state-)borders. 
 After all, for that same reason 9 people from Holland took part at the
 recent German-speaking FOSSGIS-conference in Münster ;-)
 
 Keep us through this list informed when the Brussels meeting will be held!
 
 
 Greetings from above the Moerdijk,
 
 
 Gert-Jan
 Chair of the dutch(-speaking) local chapter OSGeo.nl
 
 
 
 
 -Oorspronkelijk bericht-
 Van: discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org
 [mailto:discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org] Namens Jeff McKenna
 Verzonden: dinsdag 17 maart 2015 13:44
 Aan: discuss@lists.osgeo.org
 Onderwerp: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo in Belgium
 
 Hi Dirk,
 
 Wonderful idea, please include me in your updates for this chapter, as I
 like to follow along the progress.  Would this possible chapter be looking
 at getting involved in something like the Open Belgium 
 conference[1], with a geospatial track?
 
 [1] http://2015.openbelgium.be/
 
 -jeff
 
 
 
 On 2015-03-17 6:47 AM, Dirk Frigne wrote:
 Dear list,

 Following some contacts I had since FOSDEM 2015, I think there is some 
 opportunity to start with a local chapter in Belgium.
 There is already the .nl (dutch speaking chapter)[1] and the .fr 
 (french speaking chapter)[2], but a local chapter has other benifits 
 (bringing OSGeo closer to the local people).

 We want to organize a physical meeting with the local OSGeo people in 
 Belgium to see if there is enough critical mass and interest to start 
 with a local chapter.

 I also talked with Pieter Colpaert[3] in cc, active in the open 
 knowledge foundation in Belgium. As they have already a legal non 
 profit structure, where also the local chapter of OSM Belgium [4] has 
 a place, we cooperate with this organisation and become also a working 
 group under the umbrella of the open knowledge foundation.

 So 2 questions to the community:

 1. Do you agree with the fact that we investigate how we can join 
 forces with the open knowledge foundation Belgium to start up the 
 Belgium chapter of OSGeo

 2. Who is interested to Join a physical meeting in Brussels to find 
 out if there is support for a OSGeo Belgium Chapter?
 For this second question, you may mail me directly, so we don't over 
 post this list.
 I'll send out a doodle end of the week to the list, but will also 
 include everybody showing interest.

 thanks in advance for your reaction,
 Dirk


 [1] http://osgeo.nl/
 [2] http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Francophone
 [3] http://www.openknowledge.be/
 [4] http://osm.be/

 
 
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo in Belgium

2015-03-17 Thread Gert-Jan van der Weijden - Stichting OSGeo.nl
Hi Dirk,


To be honest, I am a bit ambiguous about this. 
Recently I've seen several cross-border Open Source Geo (and OpenStreetMap)
development: people from Holland visiting Belgian events, and people from
Leuven, Mechelen and Antwerp crossing the border northbound. I encourage
that very much, especially since it distinguishes us from the classical
(mainly closed source) community. 

However, I can also understand the willingness to form a local (bi- or even
tri-lingual?) Belgian OSGeo-chapter.
I hope you can discuss this in the meeting to be held in Brussels.

I might even come over to Brussels. Not especially to persuade you to join
us in a Dutch-speaking local chapter ;-)
But mainly to discuss how we can co-operate to keep the best of both worlds:
a local base, but still the willingness to look across (state-)borders. 
After all, for that same reason 9 people from Holland took part at the
recent German-speaking FOSSGIS-conference in Münster ;-)

Keep us through this list informed when the Brussels meeting will be held!


Greetings from above the Moerdijk,


Gert-Jan
Chair of the dutch(-speaking) local chapter OSGeo.nl




-Oorspronkelijk bericht-
Van: discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org
[mailto:discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org] Namens Jeff McKenna
Verzonden: dinsdag 17 maart 2015 13:44
Aan: discuss@lists.osgeo.org
Onderwerp: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo in Belgium

Hi Dirk,

Wonderful idea, please include me in your updates for this chapter, as I
like to follow along the progress.  Would this possible chapter be looking
at getting involved in something like the Open Belgium 
conference[1], with a geospatial track?

[1] http://2015.openbelgium.be/

-jeff



On 2015-03-17 6:47 AM, Dirk Frigne wrote:
 Dear list,

 Following some contacts I had since FOSDEM 2015, I think there is some 
 opportunity to start with a local chapter in Belgium.
 There is already the .nl (dutch speaking chapter)[1] and the .fr 
 (french speaking chapter)[2], but a local chapter has other benifits 
 (bringing OSGeo closer to the local people).

 We want to organize a physical meeting with the local OSGeo people in 
 Belgium to see if there is enough critical mass and interest to start 
 with a local chapter.

 I also talked with Pieter Colpaert[3] in cc, active in the open 
 knowledge foundation in Belgium. As they have already a legal non 
 profit structure, where also the local chapter of OSM Belgium [4] has 
 a place, we cooperate with this organisation and become also a working 
 group under the umbrella of the open knowledge foundation.

 So 2 questions to the community:

 1. Do you agree with the fact that we investigate how we can join 
 forces with the open knowledge foundation Belgium to start up the 
 Belgium chapter of OSGeo

 2. Who is interested to Join a physical meeting in Brussels to find 
 out if there is support for a OSGeo Belgium Chapter?
 For this second question, you may mail me directly, so we don't over 
 post this list.
 I'll send out a doodle end of the week to the list, but will also 
 include everybody showing interest.

 thanks in advance for your reaction,
 Dirk


 [1] http://osgeo.nl/
 [2] http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Francophone
 [3] http://www.openknowledge.be/
 [4] http://osm.be/



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[OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo in Belgium

2015-03-17 Thread Dirk Frigne
Dear list,

Following some contacts I had since FOSDEM 2015, I think there is some
opportunity to start with a local chapter in Belgium.
There is already the .nl (dutch speaking chapter)[1] and the .fr (french
speaking chapter)[2], but a local chapter has other benifits (bringing
OSGeo closer to the local people).

We want to organize a physical meeting with the local OSGeo people in
Belgium to see if there is enough critical mass and interest to start
with a local chapter.

I also talked with Pieter Colpaert[3] in cc, active in the open
knowledge foundation in Belgium. As they have already a legal non profit
structure, where also the local chapter of OSM Belgium [4] has a place,
we cooperate with this organisation and become also a working group
under the umbrella of the open knowledge foundation.

So 2 questions to the community:

1. Do you agree with the fact that we investigate how we can join forces
with the open knowledge foundation Belgium to start up the Belgium
chapter of OSGeo

2. Who is interested to Join a physical meeting in Brussels to find out
if there is support for a OSGeo Belgium Chapter?
For this second question, you may mail me directly, so we don't over
post this list.
I'll send out a doodle end of the week to the list, but will also
include everybody showing interest.

thanks in advance for your reaction,
Dirk


[1] http://osgeo.nl/
[2] http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Francophone
[3] http://www.openknowledge.be/
[4] http://osm.be/

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo in Belgium

2015-03-17 Thread Milo van der Linden
Maybe a euroland chapter? Or a gitmo nation lowlands chapter?

In the morning!

2015-03-17 11:36 GMT+01:00 Jachym Cepicky jachym.cepi...@gmail.com:
 Go, Belgium, gogogo!

 út 17. 3. 2015 v 11:08 odesílatel Dirk Frigne dirk.fri...@geosparc.com
 napsal:

 Dear list,

 Following some contacts I had since FOSDEM 2015, I think there is some
 opportunity to start with a local chapter in Belgium.
 There is already the .nl (dutch speaking chapter)[1] and the .fr (french
 speaking chapter)[2], but a local chapter has other benifits (bringing
 OSGeo closer to the local people).

 We want to organize a physical meeting with the local OSGeo people in
 Belgium to see if there is enough critical mass and interest to start
 with a local chapter.

 I also talked with Pieter Colpaert[3] in cc, active in the open
 knowledge foundation in Belgium. As they have already a legal non profit
 structure, where also the local chapter of OSM Belgium [4] has a place,
 we cooperate with this organisation and become also a working group
 under the umbrella of the open knowledge foundation.

 So 2 questions to the community:

 1. Do you agree with the fact that we investigate how we can join forces
 with the open knowledge foundation Belgium to start up the Belgium
 chapter of OSGeo

 2. Who is interested to Join a physical meeting in Brussels to find out
 if there is support for a OSGeo Belgium Chapter?
 For this second question, you may mail me directly, so we don't over
 post this list.
 I'll send out a doodle end of the week to the list, but will also
 include everybody showing interest.

 thanks in advance for your reaction,
 Dirk


 [1] http://osgeo.nl/
 [2] http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Francophone
 [3] http://www.openknowledge.be/
 [4] http://osm.be/

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo in Belgium

2015-03-17 Thread Jachym Cepicky
Go, Belgium, gogogo!

út 17. 3. 2015 v 11:08 odesílatel Dirk Frigne dirk.fri...@geosparc.com
napsal:

 Dear list,

 Following some contacts I had since FOSDEM 2015, I think there is some
 opportunity to start with a local chapter in Belgium.
 There is already the .nl (dutch speaking chapter)[1] and the .fr (french
 speaking chapter)[2], but a local chapter has other benifits (bringing
 OSGeo closer to the local people).

 We want to organize a physical meeting with the local OSGeo people in
 Belgium to see if there is enough critical mass and interest to start
 with a local chapter.

 I also talked with Pieter Colpaert[3] in cc, active in the open
 knowledge foundation in Belgium. As they have already a legal non profit
 structure, where also the local chapter of OSM Belgium [4] has a place,
 we cooperate with this organisation and become also a working group
 under the umbrella of the open knowledge foundation.

 So 2 questions to the community:

 1. Do you agree with the fact that we investigate how we can join forces
 with the open knowledge foundation Belgium to start up the Belgium
 chapter of OSGeo

 2. Who is interested to Join a physical meeting in Brussels to find out
 if there is support for a OSGeo Belgium Chapter?
 For this second question, you may mail me directly, so we don't over
 post this list.
 I'll send out a doodle end of the week to the list, but will also
 include everybody showing interest.

 thanks in advance for your reaction,
 Dirk


 [1] http://osgeo.nl/
 [2] http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Francophone
 [3] http://www.openknowledge.be/
 [4] http://osm.be/

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 CEO

 Geosparc n.v.
 Brugsesteenweg 587
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 GSM: +32 495 508 799

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo in Belgium

2015-03-17 Thread Johan Van de Wauw
On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 10:42 PM, Dirk Frigne dirk.fri...@geosparc.com wrote:
 Thanks for your reaction Gert-Jan,

 Some people are indeed cross-border Open Source Geo, but many arn't.
 To address these people, such a local chapter can be interesting to
 learn them about the OSGeo solutions.

I agree with Dirk (and said so before [1]) that we definitely need a
local conference if we want to reach out to end-users. Small firms,
local and regional governmentsare not very likely to join a conference
in a different country. And many of them have attended the previous
two events we had in Ghent and Brussels. In both cases attendance
exceeded the expectations, and inscriptions for the conference in
Brussels had to be closed.

This does not exclude cooperating with the dutch/french language chapters.

Kind Regards,
Johan

[1] http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/discuss/2014-September/013538.html
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo in Belgium

2015-03-17 Thread Johan Van de Wauw
On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 10:47 AM, Dirk Frigne dirk.fri...@geosparc.com wrote:
 1. Do you agree with the fact that we investigate how we can join forces
 with the open knowledge foundation Belgium to start up the Belgium
 chapter of OSGeo
We should definitely work together. I believe we should first set our
goals with OSGeo Belgium and then choose whether it makes sense to be
under their umbrella.

Kind Regards,

Johan
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo in Belgium

2015-03-17 Thread Dirk Frigne
OK.
I'll make it an Agenda topic.


On 17-03-15 23:34, Johan Van de Wauw wrote:
 On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 10:47 AM, Dirk Frigne dirk.fri...@geosparc.com 
 wrote:
 1. Do you agree with the fact that we investigate how we can join forces
 with the open knowledge foundation Belgium to start up the Belgium
 chapter of OSGeo
 We should definitely work together. I believe we should first set our
 goals with OSGeo Belgium and then choose whether it makes sense to be
 under their umbrella.
 
 Kind Regards,
 
 Johan
 

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] OSGeo in Belgium

2015-03-17 Thread Jeff McKenna

Hi Dirk,

Wonderful idea, please include me in your updates for this chapter, as I 
like to follow along the progress.  Would this possible chapter be 
looking at getting involved in something like the Open Belgium 
conference[1], with a geospatial track?


[1] http://2015.openbelgium.be/

-jeff



On 2015-03-17 6:47 AM, Dirk Frigne wrote:

Dear list,

Following some contacts I had since FOSDEM 2015, I think there is some
opportunity to start with a local chapter in Belgium.
There is already the .nl (dutch speaking chapter)[1] and the .fr (french
speaking chapter)[2], but a local chapter has other benifits (bringing
OSGeo closer to the local people).

We want to organize a physical meeting with the local OSGeo people in
Belgium to see if there is enough critical mass and interest to start
with a local chapter.

I also talked with Pieter Colpaert[3] in cc, active in the open
knowledge foundation in Belgium. As they have already a legal non profit
structure, where also the local chapter of OSM Belgium [4] has a place,
we cooperate with this organisation and become also a working group
under the umbrella of the open knowledge foundation.

So 2 questions to the community:

1. Do you agree with the fact that we investigate how we can join forces
with the open knowledge foundation Belgium to start up the Belgium
chapter of OSGeo

2. Who is interested to Join a physical meeting in Brussels to find out
if there is support for a OSGeo Belgium Chapter?
For this second question, you may mail me directly, so we don't over
post this list.
I'll send out a doodle end of the week to the list, but will also
include everybody showing interest.

thanks in advance for your reaction,
Dirk


[1] http://osgeo.nl/
[2] http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Francophone
[3] http://www.openknowledge.be/
[4] http://osm.be/




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