Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Proposal for the listing of projects in our new web site

Hi, One action item from a recent board meeting was to help review the community project rules. Even has raised some interesting points some time ago and I think it would be valuable to follow up on this discussion with help from Incubation committee. Some comments inline: On 08/19/2017

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Proposal for the listing of projects in our new web site

That was actually the original requirement Jeff. I am having a hard time explaining to get Interactive that the sort order "core contributor" changes based on project. Even though we used the geoserver and qgis pages as an example. It is kind of working since they have that association for "core

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Proposal for the listing of projects in our new web site

On Tue, Aug 22, 2017 at 01:58 Andrea Aime wrote: > On Tue, Aug 22, 2017 at 10:26 AM, Polimi wrote: > >> 1) in my opinion the size matters and it is not in se something negative >> to be a small startup or company instead of a big one.

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Proposal for the listing of projects in our new web site

On Tue, Aug 22, 2017 at 01:27 Polimi wrote: > Thank you all for your proposals and discussion. I' m currently in > holidays and therefore I want just to propose some short comments. > 1) in my opinion the size matters and it is not in se something negative > to be a

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Proposal for the listing of projects in our new web site

In fact this should be implemented. Not sure how we overlooked this. Jachym can you file an issue for this? On Tue, Aug 22, 2017 at 00:37 Jachym Cepicky wrote: > Eh, new idea just came to my mind: What about adding possibility to assign > people to service providers

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Proposal for the listing of projects in our new web site

JeffM, It seems you are making a leap from asking service providers how big they are to this alienating them or somehow excluding ones of a certain size (big or small it's not clear). Can you explain the thoughts behind your argument here? I think the rest of us are saying that everyone should be

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Proposal for the listing of projects in our new web site

As member of a mini-micro-company, I will also add my 2 cents. [...] > From the standpoint of an organization looking for a provider, size may also > be important, a larger company > typically has a better financial footing (mandatory in certain types of > contracts), and possibly a more

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Proposal for the listing of projects in our new web site

On Tue, Aug 22, 2017 at 10:26 AM, Polimi wrote: > 1) in my opinion the size matters and it is not in se something negative > to be a small startup or company instead of a big one. Anyway, as JeffJ > said, if somebody is alienated we can skip it. We have just to better >

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Proposal for the listing of projects in our new web site

Thank you all for your proposals and discussion. I' m currently in holidays and therefore I want just to propose some short comments. 1) in my opinion the size matters and it is not in se something negative to be a small startup or company instead of a big one. Anyway, as JeffJ said, if

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Proposal for the listing of projects in our new web site

Hi Jody, For the MapServer project Service Providers page[1] that was created recently, we do not alienate or 'filter' out companies by size (of any number); instead we use the following options: 1. Core Contributors Core Contributor organizations have project Committers and/or PSC

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Proposal for the listing of projects in our new web site

Makes sense. So you can see on the service providers who are the ones with more contributors. On Tue, Aug 22, 2017 at 9:37 AM, Jachym Cepicky wrote: > Eh, new idea just came to my mind: What about adding possibility to assign > people to service providers (companies in

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Proposal for the listing of projects in our new web site

Eh, new idea just came to my mind: What about adding possibility to assign people to service providers (companies in general) as we can assign to projects? After all, it's all about people, isn't it? Again, maybe it is in cotradiction with some principle, I'm missing J út 22. 8. 2017 v 2:58

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Proposal for the listing of projects in our new web site

Note the news section is intended for news related to a specific service provider. Its *not* doing this now, so its unclear. Can you file an issue about the search. Agree this should work for a project name here. On Mon, Aug 21, 2017 at 5:17 PM, Jachym Cepicky wrote: >

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Proposal for the listing of projects in our new web site

> 3) as mentioned in 2) it would be nice to have a place on our site to > list organizations that are NOT looking for work, nor are a GeoForAll > Lab, nor (yet) a sponsor or a partner (with a formal MOU). Perhaps > they are important contributors to a project and would like to be > listed

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Proposal for the listing of projects in our new web site

Hi All, I think we are talking about several different issues here. Let me try to summarize. 1) JeffM is suggesting that we should *not* ask Service Providers what size they are in terms of number of employees to avoid 'alienating' them. I'm not sure I see how any would be alienated, but I dont

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Proposal for the listing of projects in our new web site

Yeah does not appear to be hooked up yet the news - good note about the sponsors - we should add to the issue tracker if you have not done so already. Aside: When I made a partner page I could hook up some events, projects, resources. -- Jody Garnett On 21 August 2017 at 17:52, Jachym Cepicky

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Proposal for the listing of projects in our new web site

Hi Jody, By alienating the smaller OSGeo companies in our new website, I don't see a benefit to OSGeo at all. Let us please all sizes of OSGeo companies, small and big. Yes this is tricky, for sure, even your initial message to Jachym shows a lot of what it could be like, if OSGeo suddenly

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Proposal for the listing of projects in our new web site

I already changed it from number to the size thing. This list was for support providers (since the website is about outreach looks at projects, local chapters and service providers). GeoForAll labs and academic / research outreach are in slightly different spot (we could cross link). See

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Proposal for the listing of projects in our new web site

Jachym, to clarify: any organization should be able to advertise their services for an OSGeo project, whether they are a non-profit or a research entity or a private company etc. That is how my proposal avoids separating OSGeo organizations by size. -jeff On 2017-08-21 6:17 PM, Jachym

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Proposal for the listing of projects in our new web site

Hi Jachym, Yes I agree, it is a slippery slope that once we/OSGeo decide that size is an important part of our organization (as you know, many other organizations separate their membership by size), it opens up so many other challenges. For that reason, I spoke up here to suggest that we

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Proposal for the listing of projects in our new web site

Hi Jeff (all) currently, the page is listing "service providers" - it's project oriented (as providing services to projects) your proposal is shifting it little bit to "all organisations", not even service providing - but what is their releationship to the (osgeo) projects? - still, it would be

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Proposal for the listing of projects in our new web site

On 2017-08-21 5:11 PM, Jody Garnett wrote: For your page http://osgeo.getinteractive.nl/service-providers/opengeolabs/ Is that a single consultant (you!) or a company? (or perhaps it is just a company with one person in it) Hi Jody, Regarding separating the OSGeo community by size, I

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Proposal for the listing of projects in our new web site

For your page http://osgeo.getinteractive.nl/service-providers/opengeolabs/ Is that a single consultant (you!) or a company? (or perhaps it is just a company with one person in it) Are you happy with how that page is presented? Not sure about the news items (checking now they do not really let us

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Proposal for the listing of projects in our new web site

My bad, it is hard to keep up with so many amazing contributors :) -- Jody Garnett On 21 August 2017 at 12:45, Jachym Cepicky wrote: > afaik it was Vasile's overview > > just noting > > j > > On Mon, 21 Aug 2017, 17:59 Jody Garnett wrote: > >>

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Proposal for the listing of projects in our new web site

afaik it was Vasile's overview just noting j On Mon, 21 Aug 2017, 17:59 Jody Garnett wrote: > That is perfect Jachym; at least for the beta website the "quick review" > is the very few edit permissions we have handed out. I like how this > discussion is covering what

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Proposal for the listing of projects in our new web site

Hi, just noting: there can be currently "Community projects" and "Other projects" on the new OSGeo web page I agree, being "official OSGeo Community projects" requires some rules and approval process IMHO the "new proposed rules" are ok, if you want just your project appear on OSGeo Web page as

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Proposal for the listing of projects in our new web site

I generally agree with Even's comments. W.r.t. Not requireing other licenses clause, I would like to add a question about how this would apply to free software that is mostly intended to operate with non-free data? e.g. GDAL drivers that enable reading proprietary formats via a vendor SDK or

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Proposal for the listing of projects in our new web site

Hi Angelos and Even, Thanks for enlightening us with very thoughtful and pertinent points and comments. It would be great to have a broader view on this and hope to hear from others in our community. Best Venka P.S. Even, congratulations on your 10 years + 2 days since your first commit to

Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Proposal for the listing of projects in our new web site

Hi Angelos, thanks for turning those discussions into a positive way forward and your proposal sounds good to me. A few comments below. > > I would like to propose a way forward: > > 1. We should *only* promote projects that are somehow affiliated with OSGeo > (as other Free and Open Source

[OSGeo-Discuss] Proposal for the listing of projects in our new web site

Dear friends, There has been a vivid discussion so far and I would like us to maintain a positive perspective of things. I fully understand that our community is diverse and that is a result/part of our success. We should all be respectful of each other and avoid fingerpointing and questioning