Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Re: [Live-demo] Has anyone written a How do you XXX with Open Source GIS?
Jody: This request comes up yearly; and was one of the ideas for content for the osgeo website. The difficulty is finding resources to produce the content. The trouble is just because a request is common, and makes perfect sense from a marketing open source geospatial point of view, does not imply the foundation has the marketing muscle to get it done. as noted in the original thread on the live-demo ML, much of the OSGeo software is somewhat interchangeable, especially for common desktop GIS tasks. Asking the collective authors/representatives of all OSGeo projects which is the best single tool to get the job done is not likely to converge on a single answer that doesn't leave at least one or two projects feeling a bit ignored. this may be frustrating overwhelming to the new recruit, but the only honest answer I could give to it is explore the Live DVD and find something that fits you well. what's the best FOSS tool to edit a text file? debian$ apt-cache search editor | wc -l 603 ... it depends, take your pick :-/ solutions welcome, Hamish ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Re: [Live-demo] Has anyone written a How do you XXX with Open Source GIS?
Here is a link, somehow related, hope it helps: http://geoinfo.sdsu.edu/hightech/WhitePaper/tsou_free-GIS-for-educators-whitepaper.pdfhttp://www.linkedin.com/redirect?url=http%3A%2F%2Fgeoinfo%2Esdsu%2Eedu%2Fhightech%2FWhitePaper%2Ftsou_free-GIS-for-educators-whitepaper%2Epdfurlhash=0ugO_t=tracking_anetAlex Borrell On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 2:07 AM, Hamish hamis...@yahoo.com wrote: Jody: This request comes up yearly; and was one of the ideas for content for the osgeo website. The difficulty is finding resources to produce the content. The trouble is just because a request is common, and makes perfect sense from a marketing open source geospatial point of view, does not imply the foundation has the marketing muscle to get it done. as noted in the original thread on the live-demo ML, much of the OSGeo software is somewhat interchangeable, especially for common desktop GIS tasks. Asking the collective authors/representatives of all OSGeo projects which is the best single tool to get the job done is not likely to converge on a single answer that doesn't leave at least one or two projects feeling a bit ignored. this may be frustrating overwhelming to the new recruit, but the only honest answer I could give to it is explore the Live DVD and find something that fits you well. what's the best FOSS tool to edit a text file? debian$ apt-cache search editor | wc -l 603 ... it depends, take your pick :-/ solutions welcome, Hamish ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Re: [Live-demo] Has anyone written a How do you XXX with Open Source GIS?
I don't think a FAQ needs to point to one single best tool. As Frank noted in his examples, the answer could be a list of tools if more than one provides the capability. Answers that include links to a description of the capability (and/or examples of usage) in the project documentation would be especially helpful. - TylerE On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 1:07 AM, Hamish hamis...@yahoo.com wrote: Jody: This request comes up yearly; and was one of the ideas for content for the osgeo website. The difficulty is finding resources to produce the content. The trouble is just because a request is common, and makes perfect sense from a marketing open source geospatial point of view, does not imply the foundation has the marketing muscle to get it done. as noted in the original thread on the live-demo ML, much of the OSGeo software is somewhat interchangeable, especially for common desktop GIS tasks. Asking the collective authors/representatives of all OSGeo projects which is the best single tool to get the job done is not likely to converge on a single answer that doesn't leave at least one or two projects feeling a bit ignored. this may be frustrating overwhelming to the new recruit, but the only honest answer I could give to it is explore the Live DVD and find something that fits you well. what's the best FOSS tool to edit a text file? debian$ apt-cache search editor | wc -l 603 ... it depends, take your pick :-/ solutions welcome, Hamish ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[OSGeo-Discuss] Re: [Live-demo] Has anyone written a How do you XXX with Open Source GIS?
Below, Frank has done a great job asking the exact sort of question that new GIS users ask, and which we as an OSGeo community should address to attract new users. What has been done so far toward building a FAQ on How to you XXX with Open Source GIS?? Frank wrote: Not only am I new to the forum, but I'm new to GIS work in general. I downloaded the Live CD and installed it on a virtual machine and it's working great. I'm trying to build a suite of GIS tools I can for the various tasks I have to do at work and it's great having so many products right in front of me. It's highly quality work and I appreciate all the hard work to pull it together. What would be really helpful to me (and possibly other new-to-GIS folks like myself) is a FAQ-type list of questions with app answers. For example: Do you want to edit shapefiles? Try xxx, yyy, zzz. Do you want to style shapefiles? Try ... Do you want to work exclusively with raster files? Do you need to work simultaneously with raster and vector files? Do you want to convert one file into one another format? Do you want to convert raster to vector? Vector to raster? Vector to another vector? etc. If there were a couple dozen questions with short answers it would really supplement the disc quite well. For instance, I'm trying to figure out how to convert a raster (binary GRID) file into a shapefile. I dink around in the various programs on the CD, but I don't know if I just can't find the convert raster to vector option in a particular app or if it isn't there at all. A short little QA text file would be nice to help at least focus my initial search a little bit better. At the least I (hopefully) would be pointed to the best choices for my purpose. Hope this makes sense! Frank ___ Live-demo mailing list live-d...@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/live-demo http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Disc -- Cameron Shorter Geospatial Director Tel: +61 (0)2 8570 5050 Mob: +61 (0)419 142 254 Think Globally, Fix Locally Geospatial Solutions enhanced with Open Standards and Open Source http://www.lisasoft.com ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Re: [Live-demo] Has anyone written a How do you XXX with Open Source GIS?
I know this wouldn't be for new people to GIS but I plan on writing something on my blog for this kind of thing. For people that are interested in QGIS but currently using MapInfo, like I did. Kind of like: This in MapInfo = This in QGIS - Nathan - http://woostuff.wordpress.com/ On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 8:14 PM, Cameron Shorter cameron.shor...@gmail.comwrote: Below, Frank has done a great job asking the exact sort of question that new GIS users ask, and which we as an OSGeo community should address to attract new users. What has been done so far toward building a FAQ on How to you XXX with Open Source GIS?? Frank wrote: Not only am I new to the forum, but I'm new to GIS work in general. I downloaded the Live CD and installed it on a virtual machine and it's working great. I'm trying to build a suite of GIS tools I can for the various tasks I have to do at work and it's great having so many products right in front of me. It's highly quality work and I appreciate all the hard work to pull it together. What would be really helpful to me (and possibly other new-to-GIS folks like myself) is a FAQ-type list of questions with app answers. For example: Do you want to edit shapefiles? Try xxx, yyy, zzz. Do you want to style shapefiles? Try ... Do you want to work exclusively with raster files? Do you need to work simultaneously with raster and vector files? Do you want to convert one file into one another format? Do you want to convert raster to vector? Vector to raster? Vector to another vector? etc. If there were a couple dozen questions with short answers it would really supplement the disc quite well. For instance, I'm trying to figure out how to convert a raster (binary GRID) file into a shapefile. I dink around in the various programs on the CD, but I don't know if I just can't find the convert raster to vector option in a particular app or if it isn't there at all. A short little QA text file would be nice to help at least focus my initial search a little bit better. At the least I (hopefully) would be pointed to the best choices for my purpose. Hope this makes sense! Frank ___ Live-demo mailing list live-d...@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/live-demo http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Disc -- Cameron Shorter Geospatial Director Tel: +61 (0)2 8570 5050 Mob: +61 (0)419 142 254 Think Globally, Fix Locally Geospatial Solutions enhanced with Open Standards and Open Source http://www.lisasoft.com ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Re: [Live-demo] Has anyone written a How do you XXX with Open Source GIS?
On 2/2/2011 5:14 AM, Cameron Shorter wrote: Below, Frank has done a great job asking the exact sort of question that new GIS users ask, and which we as an OSGeo community should address to attract new users. I think that it would be helpful to identify gaps also, for two reasons: 1. if someone is planning to migrate from say ArcMap to OSS, know the pain points and gaps will make it easy fro them to decide if their use case makes sense of not to convert now or not. Knowing what to expect up front lets them plan better and design new processes to work around those issues. 2. if we as a community have a clear idea of the gaps and pain points then it gives us a check list if high value projects that we might want to work into our projects. While I suspect most projects maintain some kind of wish list, I do not think there is a high level document like this FAQ that covers this. Maybe it is as simple as creating additional entries like How to you XXX with Open Source GIS? which identify gaps and pain points also. I think we are all about transparency, and this would help, IMHO. ATB, -Steve W What has been done so far toward building a FAQ on How to you XXX with Open Source GIS?? Frank wrote: Not only am I new to the forum, but I'm new to GIS work in general. I downloaded the Live CD and installed it on a virtual machine and it's working great. I'm trying to build a suite of GIS tools I can for the various tasks I have to do at work and it's great having so many products right in front of me. It's highly quality work and I appreciate all the hard work to pull it together. What would be really helpful to me (and possibly other new-to-GIS folks like myself) is a FAQ-type list of questions with app answers. For example: Do you want to edit shapefiles? Try xxx, yyy, zzz. Do you want to style shapefiles? Try ... Do you want to work exclusively with raster files? Do you need to work simultaneously with raster and vector files? Do you want to convert one file into one another format? Do you want to convert raster to vector? Vector to raster? Vector to another vector? etc. If there were a couple dozen questions with short answers it would really supplement the disc quite well. For instance, I'm trying to figure out how to convert a raster (binary GRID) file into a shapefile. I dink around in the various programs on the CD, but I don't know if I just can't find the convert raster to vector option in a particular app or if it isn't there at all. A short little QA text file would be nice to help at least focus my initial search a little bit better. At the least I (hopefully) would be pointed to the best choices for my purpose. Hope this makes sense! Frank ___ Live-demo mailing list live-d...@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/live-demo http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Disc ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Re: [Live-demo] Has anyone written a How do you XXX with Open Source GIS?
Let me add my $.02: I'd been looking for a reduced-pain method of converting to OL from the GMaps API, the target being a local/server-based OL/OSM implementation in the absence of Internet connectivity. I have the maps stored and accessible, but my GMaps function calls need translation. I suspect that it's largely one-for-one, and one of these days ... I can't believe I'm alone on needing some kind of tool for this. AS On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 9:15 AM, Stephen Woodbridge wood...@swoodbridge.comwrote: On 2/2/2011 5:14 AM, Cameron Shorter wrote: Below, Frank has done a great job asking the exact sort of question that new GIS users ask, and which we as an OSGeo community should address to attract new users. I think that it would be helpful to identify gaps also, for two reasons: 1. if someone is planning to migrate from say ArcMap to OSS, know the pain points and gaps will make it easy fro them to decide if their use case makes sense of not to convert now or not. Knowing what to expect up front lets them plan better and design new processes to work around those issues. 2. if we as a community have a clear idea of the gaps and pain points then it gives us a check list if high value projects that we might want to work into our projects. While I suspect most projects maintain some kind of wish list, I do not think there is a high level document like this FAQ that covers this. Maybe it is as simple as creating additional entries like How to you XXX with Open Source GIS? which identify gaps and pain points also. I think we are all about transparency, and this would help, IMHO. ATB, -Steve W What has been done so far toward building a FAQ on How to you XXX with Open Source GIS?? Frank wrote: Not only am I new to the forum, but I'm new to GIS work in general. I downloaded the Live CD and installed it on a virtual machine and it's working great. I'm trying to build a suite of GIS tools I can for the various tasks I have to do at work and it's great having so many products right in front of me. It's highly quality work and I appreciate all the hard work to pull it together. What would be really helpful to me (and possibly other new-to-GIS folks like myself) is a FAQ-type list of questions with app answers. For example: Do you want to edit shapefiles? Try xxx, yyy, zzz. Do you want to style shapefiles? Try ... Do you want to work exclusively with raster files? Do you need to work simultaneously with raster and vector files? Do you want to convert one file into one another format? Do you want to convert raster to vector? Vector to raster? Vector to another vector? etc. If there were a couple dozen questions with short answers it would really supplement the disc quite well. For instance, I'm trying to figure out how to convert a raster (binary GRID) file into a shapefile. I dink around in the various programs on the CD, but I don't know if I just can't find the convert raster to vector option in a particular app or if it isn't there at all. A short little QA text file would be nice to help at least focus my initial search a little bit better. At the least I (hopefully) would be pointed to the best choices for my purpose. Hope this makes sense! Frank ___ Live-demo mailing list live-d...@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/live-demo http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Live_GIS_Disc ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] Re: [Live-demo] Has anyone written a How do you XXX with Open Source GIS?
I think that this kind of FAQ would be very valuable. -Original Message- From: discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org [mailto:discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org] On Behalf Of Cameron Shorter Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2011 4:15 AM To: live-d...@lists.osgeo.org; Frank Murphy; OSGeo Discussions Subject: [OSGeo-Discuss] Re: [Live-demo] Has anyone written a How do you XXX with Open Source GIS? Below, Frank has done a great job asking the exact sort of question that new GIS users ask, and which we as an OSGeo community should address to attract new users. What has been done so far toward building a FAQ on How to you XXX with Open Source GIS?? ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Re: [Live-demo] Has anyone written a How do you XXX with Open Source GIS?
This request comes up yearly; and was one of the ideas for content for the osgeo website. The difficulty is finding resources to produce the content. The trouble is just because a request is common, and makes perfect sense from a marketing open source geospatial point of view, does not imply the foundation has the marketing muscle to get it done. Jody On 03/02/2011, at 12:12 AM, Fawcett, David (MPCA) wrote: I think that this kind of FAQ would be very valuable. -Original Message- From: discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org [mailto:discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org] On Behalf Of Cameron Shorter Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2011 4:15 AM To: live-d...@lists.osgeo.org; Frank Murphy; OSGeo Discussions Subject: [OSGeo-Discuss] Re: [Live-demo] Has anyone written a How do you XXX with Open Source GIS? Below, Frank has done a great job asking the exact sort of question that new GIS users ask, and which we as an OSGeo community should address to attract new users. What has been done so far toward building a FAQ on How to you XXX with Open Source GIS?? ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
