Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] UNGGIM Private Sector
Hi Cameron, Thank you for your excellent suggestions. I agree with the steps you mentioned. In fact, I send the mail out on these initiatives to create awareness (step 1 in your mail) and then find ideas from the community to find best way forward . In UNGGIM though I knew about the Academic Network and its activities , I came across the Private sector network only recently. I immediately checked the list of organisations listed in their website and saw many Properitery GIS vendors joined and very active (they are very smart) but I did not see many OSGeo SMEs listed there so I immediately emailed the community to create awareness, so those interested join individually and receive information on its activities. It is important there are no monopolies created by anyone , hence having many different organisations from different perspectives in all initiatives is important for balance in my humble opinion. I am new to GEO . It was only from last 6 months (after I participated in the GEO Plenary) , I became more aware of its excellent work in various domains and I realised the importance of spreading Open Principles in this esp. In Capacity Development [1]. In fact, we don’t need formal MoU to do this, we can all do this in our individual capacities by spreading Open ideas in all networks and initiatives. I have always been doing by best to promote Open Principles in Geo when ever I get a chance in whichever forum :-) Best wishes, Suchith [1] http://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/board/2018-February/011243.html From: Discuss on behalf of Cameron Shorter Sent: 03 February 2018 19:45 To: discuss@lists.osgeo.org Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] UNGGIM Private Sector Suchith, I agree with Marc's points. I notice a similar discussion on the OSGeo Board thread about joining GEO. I think there is little value in setting up "trophy" MOUs or becoming members of communities unless we have specific community members who are actively wanting to get involved. So steps I'd suggest: 1. Find our community members who want involvement 2. If our community members feel that joining some external group will help our community be more effective, then OSGeo supports them in the activity. At the moment, I don't think we have passed step 1 yet. On 2/2/18 12:03 am, Suchith Anand wrote: Thanks Marc. I am trying to think ideas to make sure that OSGeo is involved in all levels at all different forums for maximising impact. We are very active in the UNGGIM Academic Network (thanks to Maria). https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/discuss/2018-January/037059.html We need to be more active in regional networks in UNGGIM and spread our ideas.We need champions to spread ideas in UNGGIM Private Sector and the main way to do this is to join these networks . As far as I am aware they are free to join at http://unggim-psn.org/psn-members.html Best wishes, Suchith From: Marc Vloemans <mailto:marcvloema...@gmail.com> Sent: 01 February 2018 11:43 To: Suchith Anand Cc: discuss@lists.osgeo.org<mailto:discuss@lists.osgeo.org> Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] UNGGIM Private Sector Thx Suchith, However I struggle to see the opportunities for SME’s in particular. Especially, since these make up for the large part of the present OSGeo sponsors. I think the argument to join the initiative needs to be SMART. Otherwise it is a plea in a virtual ocean of requests upon open source businesses. Apologies, but I can not bolster the argument for joining. Perhaps others on the list can help you. Kind regards, Marc Vloemans Op 1 feb. 2018 om 12:33 heeft Suchith Anand mailto:suchith.an...@nottingham.ac.uk>> het volgende geschreven: Hi Marc, I do not have any expertise in this but seeing all the companies who have joined this already ( including many proprietary GIS companies), it is important that SMEs in the OSGeo ecosytem should be part of this to make sure there is balance of opportunities for everyone. Best wishes, Suchith From: Marc Vloemans mailto:marcvloema...@gmail.com>> Sent: 01 February 2018 11:24 To: Suchith Anand Cc: discuss@lists.osgeo.org<mailto:discuss@lists.osgeo.org> Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] UNGGIM Private Sector Hi Suchith, What would be the business value of joining as an SME or other (commercial) company? Kind regards, Marc Vloemans Op 1 feb. 2018 om 12:09 heeft Suchith Anand mailto:suchith.an...@nottingham.ac.uk>> het volgende geschreven: I was looking at UNGGIM Private Sector website and I didn’t much presence of commercial sector in the OSGeo ecosystem in the UNGGIM Private Sector Network. There are lot of SMEs in the OSGeo ecosystem and I think this will be a good opportunity for the commercial sector in the OSGeo ecosystem [2] to join this network at http://unggim-psn.org/psn-members.h
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] UNGGIM Private Sector
Suchith, I agree with Marc's points. I notice a similar discussion on the OSGeo Board thread about joining GEO. I think there is little value in setting up "trophy" MOUs or becoming members of communities unless we have specific community members who are actively wanting to get involved. So steps I'd suggest: 1. Find our community members who want involvement 2. If our community members feel that joining some external group will help our community be more effective, then OSGeo supports them in the activity. At the moment, I don't think we have passed step 1 yet. On 2/2/18 12:03 am, Suchith Anand wrote: Thanks Marc. I am trying to think ideas to make sure that OSGeo is involved in all levels at all different forums for maximising impact. We are very active in the UNGGIM Academic Network (thanks to Maria). https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/discuss/2018-January/037059.html We need to be more active in regional networks in UNGGIM and spread our ideas.We need champions to spread ideas in UNGGIM Private Sector and the main way to do this is to join these networks . As far as I am aware they are free to join at http://unggim-psn.org/psn-members.html Best wishes, Suchith *From:* Marc Vloemans *Sent:* 01 February 2018 11:43 *To:* Suchith Anand *Cc:* discuss@lists.osgeo.org *Subject:* Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] UNGGIM Private Sector Thx Suchith, However I struggle to see the opportunities for SME’s in particular. Especially, since these make up for the large part of the present OSGeo sponsors. I think the argument to join the initiative needs to be SMART. Otherwise it is a plea in a virtual ocean of requests upon open source businesses. Apologies, but I can not bolster the argument for joining. Perhaps others on the list can help you. Kind regards, Marc Vloemans Op 1 feb. 2018 om 12:33 heeft Suchith Anand <mailto:suchith.an...@nottingham.ac.uk>> het volgende geschreven: Hi Marc, I do not have any expertise in this but seeing all the companies who have joined this already ( including many proprietary GIS companies), it is important that SMEs in the OSGeo ecosytem should be part of this to make sure there is balance of opportunities for everyone. Best wishes, Suchith *From:* Marc Vloemans <mailto:marcvloema...@gmail.com>> *Sent:* 01 February 2018 11:24 *To:* Suchith Anand *Cc:* discuss@lists.osgeo.org <mailto:discuss@lists.osgeo.org> *Subject:* Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] UNGGIM Private Sector Hi Suchith, What would be the business value of joining as an SME or other (commercial) company? Kind regards, Marc Vloemans Op 1 feb. 2018 om 12:09 heeft Suchith Anand <mailto:suchith.an...@nottingham.ac.uk>> het volgende geschreven: I was looking at UNGGIM Private Sector website and I didn’t much presence of commercial sector in the OSGeo ecosystem in the UNGGIM Private Sector Network. There are lot of SMEs in the OSGeo ecosystem and I think this will be a good opportunity for the commercial sector in the OSGeo ecosystem [2] to join this network at http://unggim-psn.org/psn-members.html and proactively engage with UNGGIM Private Sector Best wishes, Suchith [1] https://www.osgeo.org/service-providers/ This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please contact the sender and delete the email and attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored where permitted by law. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org <mailto:Discuss@lists.osgeo.org> https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please contact the sender and delete the email and attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored where permitted by law. This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please contact the sender and delete the email and attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored where permitted by law. __
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] UNGGIM Private Sector
Thanks Marc. I am trying to think ideas to make sure that OSGeo is involved in all levels at all different forums for maximising impact. We are very active in the UNGGIM Academic Network (thanks to Maria). https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/discuss/2018-January/037059.html We need to be more active in regional networks in UNGGIM and spread our ideas.We need champions to spread ideas in UNGGIM Private Sector and the main way to do this is to join these networks . As far as I am aware they are free to join at http://unggim-psn.org/psn-members.html Best wishes, Suchith From: Marc Vloemans Sent: 01 February 2018 11:43 To: Suchith Anand Cc: discuss@lists.osgeo.org Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] UNGGIM Private Sector Thx Suchith, However I struggle to see the opportunities for SME’s in particular. Especially, since these make up for the large part of the present OSGeo sponsors. I think the argument to join the initiative needs to be SMART. Otherwise it is a plea in a virtual ocean of requests upon open source businesses. Apologies, but I can not bolster the argument for joining. Perhaps others on the list can help you. Kind regards, Marc Vloemans Op 1 feb. 2018 om 12:33 heeft Suchith Anand mailto:suchith.an...@nottingham.ac.uk>> het volgende geschreven: Hi Marc, I do not have any expertise in this but seeing all the companies who have joined this already ( including many proprietary GIS companies), it is important that SMEs in the OSGeo ecosytem should be part of this to make sure there is balance of opportunities for everyone. Best wishes, Suchith From: Marc Vloemans mailto:marcvloema...@gmail.com>> Sent: 01 February 2018 11:24 To: Suchith Anand Cc: discuss@lists.osgeo.org<mailto:discuss@lists.osgeo.org> Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] UNGGIM Private Sector Hi Suchith, What would be the business value of joining as an SME or other (commercial) company? Kind regards, Marc Vloemans Op 1 feb. 2018 om 12:09 heeft Suchith Anand mailto:suchith.an...@nottingham.ac.uk>> het volgende geschreven: I was looking at UNGGIM Private Sector website and I didn’t much presence of commercial sector in the OSGeo ecosystem in the UNGGIM Private Sector Network. There are lot of SMEs in the OSGeo ecosystem and I think this will be a good opportunity for the commercial sector in the OSGeo ecosystem [2] to join this network at http://unggim-psn.org/psn-members.html and proactively engage with UNGGIM Private Sector Best wishes, Suchith [1] https://www.osgeo.org/service-providers/ This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please contact the sender and delete the email and attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored where permitted by law. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org<mailto:Discuss@lists.osgeo.org> https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please contact the sender and delete the email and attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored where permitted by law. This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please contact the sender and delete the email and attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored where permitted by law. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] UNGGIM Private Sector
Thx Suchith, However I struggle to see the opportunities for SME’s in particular. Especially, since these make up for the large part of the present OSGeo sponsors. I think the argument to join the initiative needs to be SMART. Otherwise it is a plea in a virtual ocean of requests upon open source businesses. Apologies, but I can not bolster the argument for joining. Perhaps others on the list can help you. Kind regards, Marc Vloemans > Op 1 feb. 2018 om 12:33 heeft Suchith Anand > het volgende geschreven: > > Hi Marc, > > I do not have any expertise in this but seeing all the companies who have > joined this already ( including many proprietary GIS companies), it is > important that SMEs in the OSGeo ecosytem should be part of this to make sure > there is balance of opportunities for everyone. > > Best wishes, > > Suchith > > > From: Marc Vloemans > Sent: 01 February 2018 11:24 > To: Suchith Anand > Cc: discuss@lists.osgeo.org > Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] UNGGIM Private Sector > > Hi Suchith, > > What would be the business value of joining as an SME or other (commercial) > company? > > Kind regards, > Marc Vloemans > > > Op 1 feb. 2018 om 12:09 heeft Suchith Anand > het volgende geschreven: > >> I was looking at UNGGIM Private Sector website and I didn’t much presence >> of commercial sector in the OSGeo ecosystem in the UNGGIM Private Sector >> Network. >> >> There are lot of SMEs in the OSGeo ecosystem and I think this will be a good >> opportunity for the commercial sector in the OSGeo ecosystem [2] to join >> this network at http://unggim-psn.org/psn-members.html and proactively >> engage with UNGGIM Private Sector >> >> Best wishes, >> >> Suchith >> >> [1] https://www.osgeo.org/service-providers/ >> >> >> >> This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee >> and may contain confidential information. If you have received this >> message in error, please contact the sender and delete the email and >> attachment. >> >> Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not >> necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. Email >> communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored where >> permitted by law. >> >> >> >> ___ >> Discuss mailing list >> Discuss@lists.osgeo.org >> https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee > and may contain confidential information. If you have received this > message in error, please contact the sender and delete the email and > attachment. > > Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not > necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. Email > communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored where > permitted by law. > > > ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] UNGGIM Private Sector
Hi Marc, I do not have any expertise in this but seeing all the companies who have joined this already ( including many proprietary GIS companies), it is important that SMEs in the OSGeo ecosytem should be part of this to make sure there is balance of opportunities for everyone. Best wishes, Suchith From: Marc Vloemans Sent: 01 February 2018 11:24 To: Suchith Anand Cc: discuss@lists.osgeo.org Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] UNGGIM Private Sector Hi Suchith, What would be the business value of joining as an SME or other (commercial) company? Kind regards, Marc Vloemans Op 1 feb. 2018 om 12:09 heeft Suchith Anand mailto:suchith.an...@nottingham.ac.uk>> het volgende geschreven: I was looking at UNGGIM Private Sector website and I didn’t much presence of commercial sector in the OSGeo ecosystem in the UNGGIM Private Sector Network. There are lot of SMEs in the OSGeo ecosystem and I think this will be a good opportunity for the commercial sector in the OSGeo ecosystem [2] to join this network at http://unggim-psn.org/psn-members.html and proactively engage with UNGGIM Private Sector Best wishes, Suchith [1] https://www.osgeo.org/service-providers/ This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please contact the sender and delete the email and attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored where permitted by law. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org<mailto:Discuss@lists.osgeo.org> https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please contact the sender and delete the email and attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored where permitted by law. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] UNGGIM Private Sector
Hi Suchith, What would be the business value of joining as an SME or other (commercial) company? Kind regards, Marc Vloemans > Op 1 feb. 2018 om 12:09 heeft Suchith Anand > het volgende geschreven: > > I was looking at UNGGIM Private Sector website and I didn’t much presence of > commercial sector in the OSGeo ecosystem in the UNGGIM Private Sector > Network. > > There are lot of SMEs in the OSGeo ecosystem and I think this will be a good > opportunity for the commercial sector in the OSGeo ecosystem [2] to join this > network at http://unggim-psn.org/psn-members.html and proactively engage > with UNGGIM Private Sector > > Best wishes, > > Suchith > > [1] https://www.osgeo.org/service-providers/ > > > > > This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee > and may contain confidential information. If you have received this > message in error, please contact the sender and delete the email and > attachment. > > Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not > necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. Email > communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored where > permitted by law. > > > > ___ > Discuss mailing list > Discuss@lists.osgeo.org > https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
[OSGeo-Discuss] UNGGIM Private Sector
I was looking at UNGGIM Private Sector website and I didn’t much presence of commercial sector in the OSGeo ecosystem in the UNGGIM Private Sector Network. There are lot of SMEs in the OSGeo ecosystem and I think this will be a good opportunity for the commercial sector in the OSGeo ecosystem [2] to join this network at http://unggim-psn.org/psn-members.html and proactively engage with UNGGIM Private Sector Best wishes, Suchith [1] https://www.osgeo.org/service-providers/ This message and any attachment are intended solely for the addressee and may contain confidential information. If you have received this message in error, please contact the sender and delete the email and attachment. Any views or opinions expressed by the author of this email do not necessarily reflect the views of the University of Nottingham. Email communications with the University of Nottingham may be monitored where permitted by law. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org https://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss