Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] deegree vs GeoTools API

2010-02-12 Thread Judit Mays 
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Ian Turton schrieb:
 On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 4:30 AM, Frans Thamura fr...@meruvian.org wrote:
 hi all

 anyone can share the difference between Deegree vs GeoTools API


 Deegree is a WMS/WFS/WCS(?) server and GeoTools is a Java library for
 building geospatial apps.

 Ian

Hi,
in my view this differentiation does not quite fit.

It is true that deegree offers a long list of services (implementing
various specifications of the OGC). But deegree is also a Java library
that can be used through its API.

Currently, deegree is undergoing a thorough rewrite of the code base.
While the current stable version (deegree2) offers many different
pre-packaged web services, it is a bit weak when it comes to strict
separation of API and application. Amongst other things, this is being
addressed in the development of the next major version (deegree3).

BTW, deegree implements more OGC services than just WMS, WFS and WCS.
For a full list of implemented web services, you could check our wiki:
deegree2: http://wiki.deegree.org/deegreeWiki/deegree2
deegree3: http://wiki.deegree.org/deegreeWiki/deegree3

kind regards,
Judit
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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] deegree vs GeoTools API

2010-02-12 Thread Judit Mays 
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Hello Frans,

you are always welcome to ask any deegree specific questions on one of
our mailing lists. There is one for users[1] and one for developers[2].

We would be very interested to hear about your plans.

[1] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/deegree-users
[2] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/deegree-devel

Kind regards,
Judit Mays


Frans Thamura schrieb:
 i still have a gap in my mind about how to make a program for both :0
 
 i will play around with both first, and will reply shortly
 
 F
 
 
 On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 6:49 AM, Stefan Steiniger sst...@geo.uzh.ch wrote:
 Hei Frans,

 could you outline in more detail what you are aiming to do?
 I.e. what the students (after training) and the software (to be programmed)
 should be able to do?
 If it is about web mapping then you may consider a whole different range of
 FOSS4GIS.

 stefan

 Frans Thamura wrote:
 thx for the nice reply .


 i have work with our goverment spatial division, teaching java, and
 they are 100% blank in development, this is a transformation program
 from a division to create map become a services entity -
 www.bakosutranal.go.id

 i am also teaching highschool develop apps on Java, and we success
 create web java programmer in architectural mode, and they will get
 schoolarship to university, mostly they are poor and smart, and
 several dont have computer, and several never visit Jakarta (they
 families never visit Jakarta)..

 my idea to help them to the level that they can provide solution.

 Landon, ur reply sound that using Geotools API will harder for them?
 is that right?

 i am still working for both to find the best one


 hope my reply can link our problem. we have human resource and bad
 education program in this country, so may be our student different
 with people outside this country

 F


 On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 1:52 AM, Landon Blake lbl...@ksninc.com wrote:
 Frans,

 I will try to provide an intelligent answer to your question based on my
 own experience.

 Here is my observation of the main difference between Deegree and
 Geotools:

 Degree seems to be a more closely knit group of developers, coming from
 just a couple of organizations, while Geotools draws developers from all
 over the place.

 This has some different implications for users of the libraries and for
 developers.

 I find the Deegree API is often easier to use but not as well
 documented. The Geotools API is better documented but much more
 complicated. I think this extra complication in Geotools stems from its
 efforts to please such a diverse group.

 I have contributed a single unsupported module to Geotools. This
 process wasn't too burdensome, and I found a couple of the programmers
 in Geotools were a delight to work with. I also learned a lot from my
 very limited work on Geotools. I typically work on code that plugs into
 a single program, and participation in Geotools requires you to write
 code that can be used in all sorts of programs. You need a different
 type of thinking to do that.

 The programmers from Deegree were also very responsive on their mailing
 list.

 Deegree uses a feature model somewhat similar to JUMP's. I find the
 Geotools feature model is very hard to learn and work with.

 I hope that helps.

 Landon
 Office Phone Number: (209) 946-0268
 Cell Phone Number: (209) 992-0658


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 hi all

 anyone can share the difference between Deegree vs GeoTools API

 thx


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