Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] domains

2007-08-23 Thread Frank Warmerdam

P Kishor wrote:

Likewise, democratic decision making may hinder OSGeo's ability to
select more charter members and directors from the developing world.



Now, that would be plain sad and wrong. Again, for now, I am
"ambivalent leaning to disagreeing" with the above, but OSGeo is still
young. When it really becomes a problem, I hope to use all the
legitimate processes available in a true democracy to try and
overturn/change such a decision-making.


Puneet,

Well, luckily there are a variety of steps available.  Notably discussing
the matter so folks take spatial/cultural diversity into account when
selecting new members and board members.

Also, taking steps to get more folks from the developing world active in
OSGeo internationally so there are obvious and somewhat known candidates to
choose from.

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] domains

2007-08-23 Thread P Kishor
On 8/23/07, Frank Warmerdam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> P Kishor wrote:
> > That, and
> > the fact that I don't particularly care for this foss4g business... I
> > am surprised no one has yet chimed in with floss4g
>
> Puneet,
>
> I assure you, all the possible disparaging remarks about the name FOSS4G
> have already been made.  I'm not fond of it myself, but it was selected after
> a somewhat acrimonious debate by a somewhat close vote of the conference
> committee.
>
> It seems the name was seen by some members as helping to emphasize the
> "free" concept they feel is otherwise a bit lost in OSGeo and that the
> FOSS4G name is somehow more international than calling the conference
> OSGeo'07.

Democracies make wrong decisions. Want to make it international? Put
the word "international" in the name. I can't imagine why FOSS4G is
more international than OSGeo. Both are goofy acronyms, but the latter
is necessary while the former is not. "OSGeo has an international
conference every year; it is called FOSS4G. WTF!"

Well, in democracies we live with wrong decisions until we feel too
strongly about them. For now, I don't... I just think it is goofy and
uninformative, and as is, requires registering for a new domain every
year just for the conference.

..
> Frankly, I was quite surprised at the selection of South Africa for the
> 2008 conference.

Oh well. Another year that I won't be able to attend the conference.

>
> Likewise, democratic decision making may hinder OSGeo's ability to
> select more charter members and directors from the developing world.
>

Now, that would be plain sad and wrong. Again, for now, I am
"ambivalent leaning to disagreeing" with the above, but OSGeo is still
young. When it really becomes a problem, I hope to use all the
legitimate processes available in a true democracy to try and
overturn/change such a decision-making.

Time to go to bed in the world's largest democracy.

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] domains

2007-08-23 Thread P Kishor
On 8/23/07, Tim Bowden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thu, 2007-08-23 at 15:48 +0530, P Kishor wrote:
> > Actually, hit me please if I am being silly.. but why this foss4g
> > business (which seems so contrived to me... I recently came across
> > GIT&S... geog. info. tech. and systems! that really got my eyes
> > rolling). Why can't we just have
> >
> > www.osgeo.org/conferences/
> >
> > ?
>
> or conf.osgeo.org/year ?
>


something about sub-domains not getting Google-indexed as efficiently
as sub-dirs. But, what do I know.. conf.osgeo.org/ is just as
well.

I believe O'Reilly, the king of conferences, uses
oreilly.com/conferences, and I like the simplicity of it. That, and
the fact that I don't particularly care for this foss4g business... I
am surprised no one has yet chimed in with floss4g

freakin' acronyms...

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] domains

2007-08-23 Thread Tim Bowden
On Thu, 2007-08-23 at 15:48 +0530, P Kishor wrote:
> Actually, hit me please if I am being silly.. but why this foss4g
> business (which seems so contrived to me... I recently came across
> GIT&S... geog. info. tech. and systems! that really got my eyes
> rolling). Why can't we just have
> 
> www.osgeo.org/conferences/
> 
> ?

or conf.osgeo.org/year ?

Tim Bowden

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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] domains

2007-08-23 Thread P Kishor
Actually, hit me please if I am being silly.. but why this foss4g
business (which seems so contrived to me... I recently came across
GIT&S... geog. info. tech. and systems! that really got my eyes
rolling). Why can't we just have

www.osgeo.org/conferences/

?

On 8/23/07, P Kishor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> wouldn't it be wiser to just have www.foss4g.org/2007 or /2008 and so
> on? Right now the foss4g.org domain goes to a GRASS-Japan portal site.
> Perhaps a little bit of negotiation...?
>
> On 8/23/07, Bart van den Eijnden (OSGIS) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Is it not wise to already claim domains like foss4g2008.org and maybe even
> > further down the line?
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Bart
> >


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Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] domains

2007-08-23 Thread P Kishor
wouldn't it be wiser to just have www.foss4g.org/2007 or /2008 and so
on? Right now the foss4g.org domain goes to a GRASS-Japan portal site.
Perhaps a little bit of negotiation...?

On 8/23/07, Bart van den Eijnden (OSGIS) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Is it not wise to already claim domains like foss4g2008.org and maybe even
> further down the line?
>
> Best regards,
> Bart
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[OSGeo-Discuss] domains

2007-08-23 Thread Bart van den Eijnden (OSGIS)
Is it not wise to already claim domains like foss4g2008.org and maybe even
further down the line?

Best regards,
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