RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] Relationship between Telascience and the OSGeo
Frank wrote: "you might be better donating money to feed starving children somewhere this year, and just provide your talents as a developer, tester, documentor and advocate to the FOSS4G/OSGeo community - and revisit the donation issue next year." Roger that. Feed the starving children this year, support free geodata next year. Landon Office Phone Number: (209) 946-0268 Cell Phone Number: (209) 992-0658 -Original Message- From: discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org [mailto:discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org] On Behalf Of Frank Warmerdam Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 7:17 PM To: OSGeo Discussions Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Relationship between Telascience and the OSGeo Landon Blake wrote: > Frank wrote: "Clarifying such a matter is not trivial in an organization > with many different ideas like OSGeo." > > Roger that. So I guess it boils down to the internal support for this > type of service. Landon, Yes, I suppose. I will say there is certainly support for OSGeo hosting free geodata, but it is unclear if that support extends to spending significant amounts of money on it. It also depends on folks with the right talents being able to do the work needed. > Frank wrote: "I'm not sure if telascience accepts public donations or > not, nor whether it is 501(c)3 which might matter for tax purposes." > > Roger that. I wonder if it would be possible to make a donation to > telascience trough OSGeo, which would be tax deductible... Our 501(c)3 application is still wending it's way through the IRS. I don't know if we could issue a charitable tax receipt for money received for this tax year or not ... it is certain iffy. If we could, and the amount was significant, we could earmark it for geodata/hardware type expenses at telascience. But, honestly, you might be better donating money to feed starving children somewhere this year, and just provide your talents as a developer, tester, documentor and advocate to the FOSS4G/OSGeo community - and revisit the donation issue next year. Best regards, -- ---+ -- I set the clouds in motion - turn up | Frank Warmerdam, warmer...@pobox.com light and sound - activate the windows | http://pobox.com/~warmerdam and watch the world go round - Rush| Geospatial Programmer for Rent ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss Warning: Information provided via electronic media is not guaranteed against defects including translation and transmission errors. If the reader is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this information in error, please notify the sender immediately. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Relationship between Telascience and the OSGeo
Landon Blake wrote: Frank wrote: "Clarifying such a matter is not trivial in an organization with many different ideas like OSGeo." Roger that. So I guess it boils down to the internal support for this type of service. Landon, Yes, I suppose. I will say there is certainly support for OSGeo hosting free geodata, but it is unclear if that support extends to spending significant amounts of money on it. It also depends on folks with the right talents being able to do the work needed. Frank wrote: "I'm not sure if telascience accepts public donations or not, nor whether it is 501(c)3 which might matter for tax purposes." Roger that. I wonder if it would be possible to make a donation to telascience trough OSGeo, which would be tax deductible... Our 501(c)3 application is still wending it's way through the IRS. I don't know if we could issue a charitable tax receipt for money received for this tax year or not ... it is certain iffy. If we could, and the amount was significant, we could earmark it for geodata/hardware type expenses at telascience. But, honestly, you might be better donating money to feed starving children somewhere this year, and just provide your talents as a developer, tester, documentor and advocate to the FOSS4G/OSGeo community - and revisit the donation issue next year. Best regards, -- ---+-- I set the clouds in motion - turn up | Frank Warmerdam, warmer...@pobox.com light and sound - activate the windows | http://pobox.com/~warmerdam and watch the world go round - Rush| Geospatial Programmer for Rent ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Relationship between Telascience and the OSGeo
I just filled out the form on this Amazon page. This has been previously discussed as a viable option for OAM. Jeff On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 3:27 PM, Paul Ramsey wrote: > Amazon perhaps. Google might find it cuts a little too close to the > bone. Chris, have you approached the AWS folks about hosting OAM? It's > a little more involved than just data storage, they'd also need to > provide a couple EC2 instances to receive and process the new data, > but it would remove the hosting and scalability issues nicely. > > P. > > On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 3:16 PM, Joseph Gentle wrote: >> If need be, I suspect both amazon and google would be happy to help >> with hosting. >> >> http://aws.amazon.com/publicdatasets/ >> >> -J >> >> On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 9:55 AM, Landon Blake wrote: >>> Frank wrote: "Clarifying such a matter is not trivial in an organization >>> with many different ideas like OSGeo." >>> >>> Roger that. So I guess it boils down to the internal support for this >>> type of service. >>> >>> Frank wrote: "I'm not sure if telascience accepts public donations or >>> not, nor whether it is 501(c)3 which might matter for tax purposes." >>> >>> Roger that. I wonder if it would be possible to make a donation to >>> telascience trough OSGeo, which would be tax deductible... >>> >>> Landon >>> Office Phone Number: (209) 946-0268 >>> Cell Phone Number: (209) 992-0658 >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org >>> [mailto:discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org] On Behalf Of Frank Warmerdam >>> Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 2:53 PM >>> To: OSGeo Discussions >>> Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Relationship between Telascience and the >>> OSGeo >>> >>> Landon Blake wrote: >>>> Frank wrote: "In addition to the servers provided by Telascience we >>> also >>>> have two rented >>>> servers at Peer1 (svn, trac, drupal, and mailman are on one of these >>>> servers). >>>> We are paying nearly $15K/yr for these two servers." >>>> >>>> Wow! Does our traffic require two dedicated servers like this? >>> >>> Landon, >>> >>> The arrangement at Peer1 was made primarily with the goal of having >>> a reliable decent server able to support svn/trac and related project >>> services. The second server is primarily serving as a backup though >>> the wiki is hosted there. >>> >>> We are contemplating dropping use of the second Peer1 server to save >>> funds. >>> >>>> Frank wrote: " So far geospatial data hosting has been accomplished >>> via >>>> the servers at >>>> Telascience. OSGeo has not to-date provided any resources of it's own >>>> (ie. budgeted for) in support of hosting geodata. >>>> >>>> Large scale geodata hosting is pretty demanding from a computational, >>>> disk space and bandwidth point of view and it would be likely be >>>> cost prohibitive for us to pursue it in a big way on commercially >>>> priced servers like the ones at Peer1." >>>> >>>> Is it the space requirements that make geodata hosting demanding, the >>>> bandwith requirements for download, or both? >>> >>> Both. Bandwidth overages at Peer1 can mount up to be expensive very >>> quickly, so we already host our most bandwidth intensive applications >>> (download.osgeo.org and existing geodata services) at telascience. >>> >>> I'm presuming the hosted data would be made available as web services >>> (WMS, WCS, etc) not just a download site. >>> >>>> Frank wrote: " There is some question in my mind just how central the >>>> *hosting* of >>>> free geodata is to our mission." >>>> >>>> It would be great to get this clarified. >>> >>> Clarifying such a matter is not trivial in an organization with >>> many different ideas like OSGeo. >>> >>>> I had originally asked this question because I might be able to make a >>>> small donation to support free geodata hosting. I was trying to figure >>>> out which organization would be the best suited for the donation. >>> Sounds >>>> like it should go to telascience. We'll see how my taxes works out >>> this >>>> year. :] >>> >>
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Relationship between Telascience and the OSGeo
Amazon perhaps. Google might find it cuts a little too close to the bone. Chris, have you approached the AWS folks about hosting OAM? It's a little more involved than just data storage, they'd also need to provide a couple EC2 instances to receive and process the new data, but it would remove the hosting and scalability issues nicely. P. On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 3:16 PM, Joseph Gentle wrote: > If need be, I suspect both amazon and google would be happy to help > with hosting. > > http://aws.amazon.com/publicdatasets/ > > -J > > On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 9:55 AM, Landon Blake wrote: >> Frank wrote: "Clarifying such a matter is not trivial in an organization >> with many different ideas like OSGeo." >> >> Roger that. So I guess it boils down to the internal support for this >> type of service. >> >> Frank wrote: "I'm not sure if telascience accepts public donations or >> not, nor whether it is 501(c)3 which might matter for tax purposes." >> >> Roger that. I wonder if it would be possible to make a donation to >> telascience trough OSGeo, which would be tax deductible... >> >> Landon >> Office Phone Number: (209) 946-0268 >> Cell Phone Number: (209) 992-0658 >> >> -Original Message- >> From: discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org >> [mailto:discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org] On Behalf Of Frank Warmerdam >> Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 2:53 PM >> To: OSGeo Discussions >> Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Relationship between Telascience and the >> OSGeo >> >> Landon Blake wrote: >>> Frank wrote: "In addition to the servers provided by Telascience we >> also >>> have two rented >>> servers at Peer1 (svn, trac, drupal, and mailman are on one of these >>> servers). >>> We are paying nearly $15K/yr for these two servers." >>> >>> Wow! Does our traffic require two dedicated servers like this? >> >> Landon, >> >> The arrangement at Peer1 was made primarily with the goal of having >> a reliable decent server able to support svn/trac and related project >> services. The second server is primarily serving as a backup though >> the wiki is hosted there. >> >> We are contemplating dropping use of the second Peer1 server to save >> funds. >> >>> Frank wrote: " So far geospatial data hosting has been accomplished >> via >>> the servers at >>> Telascience. OSGeo has not to-date provided any resources of it's own >>> (ie. budgeted for) in support of hosting geodata. >>> >>> Large scale geodata hosting is pretty demanding from a computational, >>> disk space and bandwidth point of view and it would be likely be >>> cost prohibitive for us to pursue it in a big way on commercially >>> priced servers like the ones at Peer1." >>> >>> Is it the space requirements that make geodata hosting demanding, the >>> bandwith requirements for download, or both? >> >> Both. Bandwidth overages at Peer1 can mount up to be expensive very >> quickly, so we already host our most bandwidth intensive applications >> (download.osgeo.org and existing geodata services) at telascience. >> >> I'm presuming the hosted data would be made available as web services >> (WMS, WCS, etc) not just a download site. >> >>> Frank wrote: " There is some question in my mind just how central the >>> *hosting* of >>> free geodata is to our mission." >>> >>> It would be great to get this clarified. >> >> Clarifying such a matter is not trivial in an organization with >> many different ideas like OSGeo. >> >>> I had originally asked this question because I might be able to make a >>> small donation to support free geodata hosting. I was trying to figure >>> out which organization would be the best suited for the donation. >> Sounds >>> like it should go to telascience. We'll see how my taxes works out >> this >>> year. :] >> >> I'm not sure if telascience accepts public donations or not, nor whether >> it is 501(c)3 which might matter for tax purposes. >> >> Best regards, >> -- >> ---+ >> -- >> I set the clouds in motion - turn up | Frank Warmerdam, >> warmer...@pobox.com >> light and sound - activate the windows | http://pobox.com/~warmerdam >> and watch the world go round - Rush| Geospatial Programmer for Rent >> >>
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Relationship between Telascience and the OSGeo
If need be, I suspect both amazon and google would be happy to help with hosting. http://aws.amazon.com/publicdatasets/ -J On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 9:55 AM, Landon Blake wrote: > Frank wrote: "Clarifying such a matter is not trivial in an organization > with many different ideas like OSGeo." > > Roger that. So I guess it boils down to the internal support for this > type of service. > > Frank wrote: "I'm not sure if telascience accepts public donations or > not, nor whether it is 501(c)3 which might matter for tax purposes." > > Roger that. I wonder if it would be possible to make a donation to > telascience trough OSGeo, which would be tax deductible... > > Landon > Office Phone Number: (209) 946-0268 > Cell Phone Number: (209) 992-0658 > > -Original Message- > From: discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org > [mailto:discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org] On Behalf Of Frank Warmerdam > Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 2:53 PM > To: OSGeo Discussions > Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Relationship between Telascience and the > OSGeo > > Landon Blake wrote: >> Frank wrote: "In addition to the servers provided by Telascience we > also >> have two rented >> servers at Peer1 (svn, trac, drupal, and mailman are on one of these >> servers). >> We are paying nearly $15K/yr for these two servers." >> >> Wow! Does our traffic require two dedicated servers like this? > > Landon, > > The arrangement at Peer1 was made primarily with the goal of having > a reliable decent server able to support svn/trac and related project > services. The second server is primarily serving as a backup though > the wiki is hosted there. > > We are contemplating dropping use of the second Peer1 server to save > funds. > >> Frank wrote: " So far geospatial data hosting has been accomplished > via >> the servers at >> Telascience. OSGeo has not to-date provided any resources of it's own >> (ie. budgeted for) in support of hosting geodata. >> >> Large scale geodata hosting is pretty demanding from a computational, >> disk space and bandwidth point of view and it would be likely be >> cost prohibitive for us to pursue it in a big way on commercially >> priced servers like the ones at Peer1." >> >> Is it the space requirements that make geodata hosting demanding, the >> bandwith requirements for download, or both? > > Both. Bandwidth overages at Peer1 can mount up to be expensive very > quickly, so we already host our most bandwidth intensive applications > (download.osgeo.org and existing geodata services) at telascience. > > I'm presuming the hosted data would be made available as web services > (WMS, WCS, etc) not just a download site. > >> Frank wrote: " There is some question in my mind just how central the >> *hosting* of >> free geodata is to our mission." >> >> It would be great to get this clarified. > > Clarifying such a matter is not trivial in an organization with > many different ideas like OSGeo. > >> I had originally asked this question because I might be able to make a >> small donation to support free geodata hosting. I was trying to figure >> out which organization would be the best suited for the donation. > Sounds >> like it should go to telascience. We'll see how my taxes works out > this >> year. :] > > I'm not sure if telascience accepts public donations or not, nor whether > it is 501(c)3 which might matter for tax purposes. > > Best regards, > -- > ---+ > -- > I set the clouds in motion - turn up | Frank Warmerdam, > warmer...@pobox.com > light and sound - activate the windows | http://pobox.com/~warmerdam > and watch the world go round - Rush| Geospatial Programmer for Rent > > ___ > Discuss mailing list > Discuss@lists.osgeo.org > http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss > > > Warning: > Information provided via electronic media is not guaranteed against defects > including translation and transmission errors. If the reader is not the > intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, > distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you > have received this information in error, please notify the sender immediately. > ___ > Discuss mailing list > Discuss@lists.osgeo.org > http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss > ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] Relationship between Telascience and the OSGeo
Frank wrote: "Clarifying such a matter is not trivial in an organization with many different ideas like OSGeo." Roger that. So I guess it boils down to the internal support for this type of service. Frank wrote: "I'm not sure if telascience accepts public donations or not, nor whether it is 501(c)3 which might matter for tax purposes." Roger that. I wonder if it would be possible to make a donation to telascience trough OSGeo, which would be tax deductible... Landon Office Phone Number: (209) 946-0268 Cell Phone Number: (209) 992-0658 -Original Message- From: discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org [mailto:discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org] On Behalf Of Frank Warmerdam Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 2:53 PM To: OSGeo Discussions Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Relationship between Telascience and the OSGeo Landon Blake wrote: > Frank wrote: "In addition to the servers provided by Telascience we also > have two rented > servers at Peer1 (svn, trac, drupal, and mailman are on one of these > servers). > We are paying nearly $15K/yr for these two servers." > > Wow! Does our traffic require two dedicated servers like this? Landon, The arrangement at Peer1 was made primarily with the goal of having a reliable decent server able to support svn/trac and related project services. The second server is primarily serving as a backup though the wiki is hosted there. We are contemplating dropping use of the second Peer1 server to save funds. > Frank wrote: " So far geospatial data hosting has been accomplished via > the servers at > Telascience. OSGeo has not to-date provided any resources of it's own > (ie. budgeted for) in support of hosting geodata. > > Large scale geodata hosting is pretty demanding from a computational, > disk space and bandwidth point of view and it would be likely be > cost prohibitive for us to pursue it in a big way on commercially > priced servers like the ones at Peer1." > > Is it the space requirements that make geodata hosting demanding, the > bandwith requirements for download, or both? Both. Bandwidth overages at Peer1 can mount up to be expensive very quickly, so we already host our most bandwidth intensive applications (download.osgeo.org and existing geodata services) at telascience. I'm presuming the hosted data would be made available as web services (WMS, WCS, etc) not just a download site. > Frank wrote: " There is some question in my mind just how central the > *hosting* of > free geodata is to our mission." > > It would be great to get this clarified. Clarifying such a matter is not trivial in an organization with many different ideas like OSGeo. > I had originally asked this question because I might be able to make a > small donation to support free geodata hosting. I was trying to figure > out which organization would be the best suited for the donation. Sounds > like it should go to telascience. We'll see how my taxes works out this > year. :] I'm not sure if telascience accepts public donations or not, nor whether it is 501(c)3 which might matter for tax purposes. Best regards, -- ---+ -- I set the clouds in motion - turn up | Frank Warmerdam, warmer...@pobox.com light and sound - activate the windows | http://pobox.com/~warmerdam and watch the world go round - Rush| Geospatial Programmer for Rent ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss Warning: Information provided via electronic media is not guaranteed against defects including translation and transmission errors. If the reader is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this information in error, please notify the sender immediately. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Relationship between Telascience and the OSGeo
Landon Blake wrote: Frank wrote: "In addition to the servers provided by Telascience we also have two rented servers at Peer1 (svn, trac, drupal, and mailman are on one of these servers). We are paying nearly $15K/yr for these two servers." Wow! Does our traffic require two dedicated servers like this? Landon, The arrangement at Peer1 was made primarily with the goal of having a reliable decent server able to support svn/trac and related project services. The second server is primarily serving as a backup though the wiki is hosted there. We are contemplating dropping use of the second Peer1 server to save funds. Frank wrote: " So far geospatial data hosting has been accomplished via the servers at Telascience. OSGeo has not to-date provided any resources of it's own (ie. budgeted for) in support of hosting geodata. Large scale geodata hosting is pretty demanding from a computational, disk space and bandwidth point of view and it would be likely be cost prohibitive for us to pursue it in a big way on commercially priced servers like the ones at Peer1." Is it the space requirements that make geodata hosting demanding, the bandwith requirements for download, or both? Both. Bandwidth overages at Peer1 can mount up to be expensive very quickly, so we already host our most bandwidth intensive applications (download.osgeo.org and existing geodata services) at telascience. I'm presuming the hosted data would be made available as web services (WMS, WCS, etc) not just a download site. Frank wrote: " There is some question in my mind just how central the *hosting* of free geodata is to our mission." It would be great to get this clarified. Clarifying such a matter is not trivial in an organization with many different ideas like OSGeo. I had originally asked this question because I might be able to make a small donation to support free geodata hosting. I was trying to figure out which organization would be the best suited for the donation. Sounds like it should go to telascience. We'll see how my taxes works out this year. :] I'm not sure if telascience accepts public donations or not, nor whether it is 501(c)3 which might matter for tax purposes. Best regards, -- ---+-- I set the clouds in motion - turn up | Frank Warmerdam, warmer...@pobox.com light and sound - activate the windows | http://pobox.com/~warmerdam and watch the world go round - Rush| Geospatial Programmer for Rent ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
RE: [OSGeo-Discuss] Relationship between Telascience and the OSGeo
Frank wrote: " Telascience has kindly donated servers, bandwidth and support services to OSGeo. I'm not aware of a lot of official documents about the relationship, it is mostly based on personal connections and the fact that goals of telascience and OSGeo in the geo-computing space have substantial overlap. We are very grateful to Telascience as an organization, and John Graham in particular for all the help we have received." Thank you for that information. Frank wrote: "In addition to the servers provided by Telascience we also have two rented servers at Peer1 (svn, trac, drupal, and mailman are on one of these servers). We are paying nearly $15K/yr for these two servers." Wow! Does our traffic require two dedicated servers like this? Frank wrote: " So far geospatial data hosting has been accomplished via the servers at Telascience. OSGeo has not to-date provided any resources of it's own (ie. budgeted for) in support of hosting geodata. Large scale geodata hosting is pretty demanding from a computational, disk space and bandwidth point of view and it would be likely be cost prohibitive for us to pursue it in a big way on commercially priced servers like the ones at Peer1." Is it the space requirements that make geodata hosting demanding, the bandwith requirements for download, or both? Frank wrote: " There is some question in my mind just how central the *hosting* of free geodata is to our mission." It would be great to get this clarified. I had originally asked this question because I might be able to make a small donation to support free geodata hosting. I was trying to figure out which organization would be the best suited for the donation. Sounds like it should go to telascience. We'll see how my taxes works out this year. :] Landon -Original Message- From: discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org [mailto:discuss-boun...@lists.osgeo.org] On Behalf Of Frank Warmerdam Sent: Sunday, December 21, 2008 9:46 AM To: OSGeo Discussions Subject: Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Relationship between Telascience and the OSGeo Landon Blake wrote: > I was wondering if anyone could explain the nature of the relationship > between TelaScience and the OSGeo. Are they simply working together > where they have goals in common, or is there relationship more > substantial than that? Landon, Telascience has kindly donated servers, bandwidth and support services to OSGeo. I'm not aware of a lot of official documents about the relationship, it is mostly based on personal connections and the fact that goals of telascience and OSGeo in the geo-computing space have substantial overlap. We are very grateful to Telascience as an organization, and John Graham in particular for all the help we have received. > Does the OSGeo have its own hardware to support > the hosting of "free" or public domain geospatial data? Will it in the > future? In addition to the servers provided by Telascience we also have two rented servers at Peer1 (svn, trac, drupal, and mailman are on one of these servers). We are paying nearly $15K/yr for these two servers. So far geospatial data hosting has been accomplished via the servers at Telascience. OSGeo has not to-date provided any resources of it's own (ie. budgeted for) in support of hosting geodata. Large scale geodata hosting is pretty demanding from a computational, disk space and bandwidth point of view and it would be likely be cost prohibitive for us to pursue it in a big way on commercially priced servers like the ones at Peer1. We (as a board) have had no requests from SAC or the Geodata committee for resources for geodata hosting. Personally, I'd be supportive of providing modest funding to purchase additional disk, and/or server resources that could be co-located at telascience if it would be valuable in hosting geodata hosting. There is some question in my mind just how central the *hosting* of free geodata is to our mission. Best regards, -- ---+ -- I set the clouds in motion - turn up | Frank Warmerdam, warmer...@pobox.com light and sound - activate the windows | http://pobox.com/~warmerdam and watch the world go round - Rush| Geospatial Programmer for Rent ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss Warning: Information provided via electronic media is not guaranteed against defects including translation and transmission errors. If the reader is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this information in error, please notify the sender immediately. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] Relationship between Telascience and the OSGeo
Landon Blake wrote: I was wondering if anyone could explain the nature of the relationship between TelaScience and the OSGeo. Are they simply working together where they have goals in common, or is there relationship more substantial than that? Landon, Telascience has kindly donated servers, bandwidth and support services to OSGeo. I'm not aware of a lot of official documents about the relationship, it is mostly based on personal connections and the fact that goals of telascience and OSGeo in the geo-computing space have substantial overlap. We are very grateful to Telascience as an organization, and John Graham in particular for all the help we have received. > Does the OSGeo have its own hardware to support the hosting of “free” or public domain geospatial data? Will it in the future? In addition to the servers provided by Telascience we also have two rented servers at Peer1 (svn, trac, drupal, and mailman are on one of these servers). We are paying nearly $15K/yr for these two servers. So far geospatial data hosting has been accomplished via the servers at Telascience. OSGeo has not to-date provided any resources of it's own (ie. budgeted for) in support of hosting geodata. Large scale geodata hosting is pretty demanding from a computational, disk space and bandwidth point of view and it would be likely be cost prohibitive for us to pursue it in a big way on commercially priced servers like the ones at Peer1. We (as a board) have had no requests from SAC or the Geodata committee for resources for geodata hosting. Personally, I'd be supportive of providing modest funding to purchase additional disk, and/or server resources that could be co-located at telascience if it would be valuable in hosting geodata hosting. There is some question in my mind just how central the *hosting* of free geodata is to our mission. Best regards, -- ---+-- I set the clouds in motion - turn up | Frank Warmerdam, warmer...@pobox.com light and sound - activate the windows | http://pobox.com/~warmerdam and watch the world go round - Rush| Geospatial Programmer for Rent ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.osgeo.org http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss
