Re: RE : [OSGeo-Discuss] Distracting discussions of discussing [was:] What is North America?

2011-11-25 Thread Eli Adam 
Mark,

On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 2:40 PM, Mark Lucas  wrote:
> Daniel,
> There is no disagreement that it would be good to coordinate and work with
> other local chapters - that is certainly in our thinking.
> To keep it simple and focused, we are not proposing any formal or implied
> hierarchy between local chapters and the region.  Everyone is free to
> contribute in the best way they see fit.

Sounds interesting!  To promote and encourage collaboration, you might
want to also send this email to potential collaborating Local Chapters
listed here, http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Local_Chapters and here,
http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Local_Chapters.  I can forward to the
PDX-OSGeo one if you'd like.  Even without a formal relationship, you
may at least want widespread awareness in the local chapters.  This
would certainly help in the case of some of the evaluation criteria
set out here, 
http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Local_Chapter_Guidelines#Chapter_Formation
, specifically, Does the mandate (geographically or linguistically)
conflict with other existing chapters or chapters-in-formation?

The in-formation PDX-OSGeo chapter even ran geographic conflict by
CUGOS at one of their meetings.
http://groups.google.com/group/cugos/browse_thread/thread/443eff963f67ad4b/a74acc750b16d012?lnk=gst&q=PDX#a74acc750b16d012

The in-formation PDX-OSGeo chapter has done a spring unconference for
several years.  You can see some of those details here,
http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/Pdx#2011_Unconference  Many members are
also involved with WhereCampPDX which is a similar event in the fall,
http://www.wherecamppdx.org/  Both are fairly local/regional
(tri-state area max, not national or continental).

> I did ping several local chapters, but I realize that wasn't comprehensive.
>  We broadcast our intentions on the discuss list, the board list, and then
> set up communications through the northamerica list documenting on the wiki.
> I look forward to working with anyone who wants to participate and
> contribute.

I've noticed this, but I also know that local chapters have many
members not signed up on these lists.

Bests, Eli

> Mark
>
> On Nov 24, 2011, at 5:23 PM, Daniel Morissette wrote:
>
> On 11-11-24 04:50 PM, Tyler Mitchell wrote:
>
> But to answer your question.. the aim is to run a conference, first round in
> the USA.  Other than working alongside other chapters (and obviously
> inviting them to partner on the event) there is no proposed formal
> connection between them - except of course being under the OSGeo banner
> together :)
>
>
> I am of the opinion that the NA Chapter should have a closer relationship to
> the other local chapters in this territory, but I do not have the time to
> explain and argue those points.
>
> I write this as an active member of the Quebec local Chapter that falls in
> this territory and personally I'm disappointed that the local chapters were
> never ping'd for their opinion or interest in being involved other than some
> notes sent through this list. I thought of a NA chapter as well before and
> discussed the idea with several people in the last years but it was a
> different concept: I am of the opinion that a NA chapter would be stronger
> with support from all the local chapters in the territory.
>
> Oh, did I just say that I didn't have time for this? Sorry, I shut up...
>
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Re: RE : [OSGeo-Discuss] Distracting discussions of discussing [was:] What is North America?

2011-11-24 Thread Seven (aka Arnulf) 
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On 24.11.2011 23:40, Mark Lucas wrote:
> Daniel,
> 
> There is no disagreement that it would be good to coordinate and work
> with other local chapters - that is certainly in our thinking.
> 
> To keep it simple and focused, we are not proposing any formal or
> implied hierarchy between local chapters and the region.  Everyone is
> free to contribute in the best way they see fit.
> 
> I did ping several local chapters, but I realize that wasn't
> comprehensive.  We broadcast our intentions on the discuss list, the
> board list, and then set up communications through the northamerica list
> documenting on the wiki.

Just to make sure that everybody with interest knows where this is going
on. Please feel free to join the discussion at:
http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/northamerica (currently 42 members)

The corresponding Wiki page can be found at:
http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/North_America_Regional

And remember, it's a Wiki: You can hack it.

If you are more generally interested in how to coordinate different
Local Chapters this might be the right place to lurk and then speak up:
http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/local-chapters (currently 46
members)

Cheers,
Arnulf

> I look forward to working with anyone who wants to participate and
> contribute.
> 
> Mark
> 
> 
> On Nov 24, 2011, at 5:23 PM, Daniel Morissette wrote:
> 
>> On 11-11-24 04:50 PM, Tyler Mitchell wrote:
>>>
>>> But to answer your question.. the aim is to run a conference, first
>>> round in the USA.  Other than working alongside other chapters (and
>>> obviously inviting them to partner on the event) there is no proposed
>>> formal connection between them - except of course being under the
>>> OSGeo banner together :)
>>>
>>
>> I am of the opinion that the NA Chapter should have a closer
>> relationship to the other local chapters in this territory, but I do
>> not have the time to explain and argue those points.
>>
>> I write this as an active member of the Quebec local Chapter that
>> falls in this territory and personally I'm disappointed that the local
>> chapters were never ping'd for their opinion or interest in being
>> involved other than some notes sent through this list. I thought of a
>> NA chapter as well before and discussed the idea with several people
>> in the last years but it was a different concept: I am of the opinion
>> that a NA chapter would be stronger with support from all the local
>> chapters in the territory.
>>
>> Oh, did I just say that I didn't have time for this? Sorry, I shut up...
>>
>> -- 
>> Daniel Morissette
>> http://www.mapgears.com/
>> Provider of Professional MapServer Support since 2000
>>
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Re: RE : [OSGeo-Discuss] Distracting discussions of discussing [was:] What is North America?

2011-11-24 Thread Mark Lucas 
Daniel,

There is no disagreement that it would be good to coordinate and work with 
other local chapters - that is certainly in our thinking.

To keep it simple and focused, we are not proposing any formal or implied 
hierarchy between local chapters and the region.  Everyone is free to 
contribute in the best way they see fit.

I did ping several local chapters, but I realize that wasn't comprehensive.  We 
broadcast our intentions on the discuss list, the board list, and then set up 
communications through the northamerica list documenting on the wiki.

I look forward to working with anyone who wants to participate and contribute.

Mark


On Nov 24, 2011, at 5:23 PM, Daniel Morissette wrote:

> On 11-11-24 04:50 PM, Tyler Mitchell wrote:
>> 
>> But to answer your question.. the aim is to run a conference, first round in 
>> the USA.  Other than working alongside other chapters (and obviously 
>> inviting them to partner on the event) there is no proposed formal 
>> connection between them - except of course being under the OSGeo banner 
>> together :)
>> 
> 
> I am of the opinion that the NA Chapter should have a closer relationship to 
> the other local chapters in this territory, but I do not have the time to 
> explain and argue those points.
> 
> I write this as an active member of the Quebec local Chapter that falls in 
> this territory and personally I'm disappointed that the local chapters were 
> never ping'd for their opinion or interest in being involved other than some 
> notes sent through this list. I thought of a NA chapter as well before and 
> discussed the idea with several people in the last years but it was a 
> different concept: I am of the opinion that a NA chapter would be stronger 
> with support from all the local chapters in the territory.
> 
> Oh, did I just say that I didn't have time for this? Sorry, I shut up...
> 
> -- 
> Daniel Morissette
> http://www.mapgears.com/
> Provider of Professional MapServer Support since 2000
> 
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