Re: [slim] Compilations and album artist tag

2008-12-09 Thread Phil Meyer
if you set a TPE2 value in your tags, AND set SC to treat your mp3s TPE2 as album artist, (not band), then SC won't think you have ANY comps, but it will ALSO suppress a VA albums artists from cluttering your artist list. the drawback is that SC won't know anything is a comp. Correct. The

Re: [slim] Compilations and album artist tag

2008-12-07 Thread Phil Meyer
The whole discussion boils down to the fact that the various tagging specifications are all somewhat inadequate by a number of measures, and that many applications implement those specifications in quirky, nonstandard ways. As a result, many people have collections that, while technically

Re: [slim] Compilations and album artist tag

2008-12-07 Thread Daren
OK can someone tell me what the SC settings should be to get the following outcome: 1. I want the artist list to exclude compilation albums period. So no appearances on Now 71 etc. 2. Compilations are shown as 'various artists' under the artist list. Note: my TPE2 tag is set to 'various

Re: [slim] Compilations and album artist tag

2008-12-07 Thread Phil Meyer
OK can someone tell me what the SC settings should be to get the following outcome: 1. I want the artist list to exclude compilation albums period. So no appearances on Now 71 etc. 2. Compilations are shown as 'various artists' under the artist list. Note: my TPE2 tag is set to 'various artists'

Re: [slim] Compilations and album artist tag

2008-12-07 Thread MrSinatra
Daren;367180 Wrote: Other apps use album artist = various artists to define compilations you're being vague... it isn't clear if you mean the tag, or the DB. i honestly don't know how other apps define comps, and other than itunes, i'm not sure any mainstream apps do? (i'm not even sure

Re: [slim] Compilations and album artist tag

2008-12-07 Thread MrSinatra
Philip Meyer;367475 Wrote: OK can someone tell me what the SC settings should be to get the following outcome: 1. I want the artist list to exclude compilation albums period. So no appearances on Now 71 etc. 2. Compilations are shown as 'various artists' under the artist list. Note: my

Re: [slim] Compilations and album artist tag

2008-12-06 Thread Daren
It seems to me that SC should have an override option for those of us who are not interested in bands, etc. -- Daren Daren's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17502 View this thread:

Re: [slim] Compilations and album artist tag

2008-12-06 Thread Phil Meyer
It seems to me that SC should have an override option for those of us who are not interested in bands, etc. If you are not interested in band information, don't add the tags? There are no override options in other apps to turn off things like this - if the tag data is there, the apps read it.

Re: [slim] Compilations and album artist tag

2008-12-06 Thread Daren
This will resolve the conflict with the apps that lazily use the album artist field (which most do). Some of us prefer to use these apps when listening to music on the PC and for tagging purposes. -- Daren Daren's

Re: [slim] Compilations and album artist tag

2008-12-06 Thread Phil Meyer
This will resolve the conflict with the apps that lazily use the album artist field (which most do). Some of us prefer to use these apps when listening to music on the PC and for tagging purposes. I think I must be missing the point. If you use the mp3 id3v2.3 TPE2 frame for other

Re: [slim] Compilations and album artist tag

2008-12-06 Thread Daren
Other apps use album artist = various artists to define compilations This is no good in SC. Don't want artists cluttered with appearances on compilations. Notwithstanding, can you advise how to add a compilation tax with MP3Tag, assuming that this will mean: Specific Arists will exclude such

Re: [slim] Compilations and album artist tag

2008-12-06 Thread Phil Meyer
Other apps use album artist = various artists to define compilations This is no good in SC. SC can do that too, if you want it to. Why do you say it's no good? Don't want artists cluttered with appearances on compilations. By artists, do you mean the list of artists, or the list of albums by a

Re: [slim] Compilations and album artist tag

2008-12-06 Thread Moonbase
Depends on what it does … maybe only sets -TCMP- oder -COMPILATION-? -- Moonbase Moonbase: 'The Problem Solver' (http://www.kaufen-ist-toll.de/moonbase) Moonbase's Profile:

Re: [slim] Compilations and album artist tag

2008-12-06 Thread CatBus
The whole discussion boils down to the fact that the various tagging specifications are all somewhat inadequate by a number of measures, and that many applications implement those specifications in quirky, nonstandard ways. As a result, many people have collections that, while technically

Re: [slim] Compilations and album artist tag

2008-12-06 Thread Moonbase
I couldn’t have put that any better way … -- Moonbase Moonbase: 'The Problem Solver' (http://www.kaufen-ist-toll.de/moonbase) Moonbase's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=21594 View this thread:

Re: [slim] Compilations and album artist tag

2008-12-05 Thread Phil Meyer
the problem is his way isn't compatible with winamp, and lot of other apps. so its a personal preference on your part. That's right. It is personal preference, and there isn't a right way (but there are probably some wrong ways!) of organising music. For me, SC is central to my music

Re: [slim] Compilations and album artist tag

2008-12-04 Thread MrSinatra
Kvaks, how u do it depends on several things, like if you want to use your files with JUST SC, or if you want to use them with SC and other apps, or even other people. as was previously mentioned, there is no official mp3 tag for album artist, but itunes, winamp, WMP, etc... all abscond TPE2

Re: [slim] Compilations and album artist tag

2008-12-04 Thread Daren
I think part of the problem is that I've got used to the way other apps work (e.g. Media Monkey, WinAmp) with regards the album artist tag, which for my entire collection ia set as 'various artists'. These bitters clutter up my artist view in SC. It will be too much hassle to change this

Re: [slim] Compilations and album artist tag

2008-12-04 Thread MrSinatra
Daren;366616 Wrote: I think part of the problem is that I've got used to the way other apps work (e.g. Media Monkey, WinAmp) with regards the album artist tag, which for my entire collection ia set as 'various artists'. These bitters clutter up my artist view in SC. It will be too much

[slim] Compilations and album artist tag

2008-12-03 Thread Kvaks
I've been thinking about getting a Squeezebox Duet, and so I've tried out the software, SqueezeCenter and the Softsqueeze. On thing I was worried about beforehand, was how SC would deal with albums that feature different artists, such as compilations or jazz albums with guest musicians. What I

Re: [slim] Compilations and album artist tag

2008-12-03 Thread slimkid
yes. Simply check 'group compilation albums together' check box in Lib configuration section. If you ask more about its specific behavior, I'll run for cover :) K -- slimkid http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7iAj2aPdQnk http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_wUP07DVq9E

Re: [slim] Compilations and album artist tag

2008-12-03 Thread Kvaks
Thank you! I can't believe I missed that option. Very good, looks like I'll be getting a Squeezebox then (this problem could have been a deal breaker for me). -- Kvaks Kvaks's Profile:

Re: [slim] Compilations and album artist tag

2008-12-03 Thread DoomWolf
I recommend searching the forums on this issue, because there are well documented problems that people can run into, almost all of which have previously been covered. I'll give you one to start with (because it covers making sure your tag versions are correct - the issue that I believe is behind

Re: [slim] Compilations and album artist tag

2008-12-03 Thread Phil Meyer
On thing I was worried about beforehand, was how SC would deal with albums that feature different artists, such as compilations or jazz albums with guest musicians. What I want, basically, is for the software to use the album artist ID3 tag when browsing by artists. SqueezeCenter is the best app