Re: [slim] Controller or alternative (iPod touch/iPhone)?

2008-12-16 Thread pippin
robroe;371452 Wrote: I'm not sure whether I have understood this correctly, but this would be iPeng connecting to Squeezecenter, pulling down/streaming the actual FLAC file and decoding it on the iPod, rather than doing transcoding on the server? If it is the first would Apple allow a

Re: [slim] Controller or alternative (iPod touch/iPhone)?

2008-12-16 Thread andynormancx
There is at least one iPhone app that decodes flac and ogg, see FStream on the app store. -- andynormancx Yes, it will. Yes, all of them. Yes, SoftSqueeze as well. What ? I SAID ALL OF THEM ! andynormancx's Profile:

Re: [slim] Controller or alternative (iPod touch/iPhone)?

2008-12-16 Thread robroe
andynormancx;370841 Wrote: The new native iPeng shouldn't have this restriction, though of course it will have to provide its own flac decoder so it can play back flac files. I'm not sure whether I have understood this correctly, but this would be iPeng connecting to Squeezecenter, pulling

Re: [slim] Controller or alternative (iPod touch/iPhone)?

2008-12-15 Thread morsejeff
pippin;370718 Wrote: iPeng 1.0.x and Squidgy are iPhone (and iPod touch) applications available through the App Store. Both currently only work as a remote control. As a remote control, both of course have no trouble with flac. The (older, free) iPeng 0.5.3 is a PLUGIN for SqueezeCenter,

Re: [slim] Controller or alternative (iPod touch/iPhone)?

2008-12-15 Thread pippin
morsejeff;370838 Wrote: I understand that they are applications and only operate as the remote control. What I don't understand is how iTunes comes into play, since I don't currently have an iPod and have not used iTunes for a few years. But as I thought about this more after I posted last

Re: [slim] Controller or alternative (iPod touch/iPhone)?

2008-12-15 Thread morsejeff
pippin;370850 Wrote: I'm not 100% convinced that the audio quality of the iPod is good enough to make a difference vs. transcoded streams, but we'll find out. You may be right, but many of us have all (or mostly all) of our music encoded in FLAC. Thanks for clarifying. After about a week of

Re: [slim] Controller or alternative (iPod touch/iPhone)?

2008-12-15 Thread morsejeff
pippin;370850 Wrote: I'm not 100% convinced that the audio quality of the iPod is good enough to make a difference vs. transcoded streams, but we'll find out. You may be right, but many of us have all (or mostly all) of our music encoded in FLAC. Thanks for clarifying. After about a week of

Re: [slim] Controller or alternative (iPod touch/iPhone)?

2008-12-15 Thread pippin
morsejeff;370887 Wrote: You may be right, but many of us have all (or mostly all) of our music encoded in FLAC. I know, but SqueezeCenter is able to transcode that. So if it doesn't make any difference, quality wise, you can get away with less bandwidth, more buffering and hence longer

Re: [slim] Controller or alternative (iPod touch/iPhone)?

2008-12-15 Thread andynormancx
morsejeff;370838 Wrote: I understand that they are applications and only operate as the remote control. What I don't understand is how iTunes comes into play, since I don't currently have an iPod and have not used iTunes for a few years. But as I thought about this more after I posted last

Re: [slim] Controller or alternative (iPod touch/iPhone)?

2008-12-15 Thread morsejeff
I went and picked up a 16GB iPod Touch today and when I got it home I realized that it was a 1st generation Touch. I should have realized it when the price rang up for less than I expected. Anyway, will the iPeng and/or Squidgy application work on the 1st generation, or do I need the 2nd

Re: [slim] Controller or alternative (iPod touch/iPhone)?

2008-12-15 Thread pippin
morsejeff;371222 Wrote: I went and picked up a 16GB iPod Touch today and when I got it home I realized that it was a 1st generation Touch. I should have realized it when the price rang up for less than I expected. Anyway, will the iPeng and/or Squidgy application work on the 1st

Re: [slim] Controller or alternative (iPod touch/iPhone)?

2008-12-15 Thread morsejeff
Well, I'm already leaning towards the 2nd generation because it's a hassle to turn the volume down while listening to music. Anyway, I'd like to try your application before I decide whether to return the Touch or not, but I don't want to have to purchase it twice. Can I transfer iPeng from

Re: [slim] Controller or alternative (iPod touch/iPhone)?

2008-12-15 Thread pippin
morsejeff;371288 Wrote: Well, I'm already leaning towards the 2nd generation because it's a hassle to turn the volume down while listening to music. Anyway, I'd like to try your application before I decide whether to return the Touch or not, but I don't want to have to purchase it twice.

Re: [slim] Controller or alternative (iPod touch/iPhone)?

2008-12-14 Thread morsejeff
One more questionIf I use the iPod Touch and the iPeng or Squidgy plugins are there any compatibility issues with my music files that are encoded in FLAC format? -- morsejeff morsejeff's Profile:

Re: [slim] Controller or alternative (iPod touch/iPhone)?

2008-12-14 Thread pippin
morsejeff;370646 Wrote: One more questionIf I use the iPod Touch and the iPeng or Squidgy plugins are there any compatibility issues with my music files that are encoded in FLAC format? iPeng 1.0.x and Squidgy are iPhone (and iPod touch) applications available through the App Store. Both

Re: [slim] Controller or alternative (iPod touch/iPhone)?

2008-12-05 Thread morsejeff
Another questionIf I purchase the Duet (w/out the controller) will I be able to do the initial setup of the receiver using an iTouch and iPeng or Squidgy? Or will I have to use the method listed in the following link?

Re: [slim] Controller or alternative (iPod touch/iPhone)?

2008-12-05 Thread m1abrams
morsejeff;366726 Wrote: Another questionIf I purchase the Duet (w/out the controller) will I be able to do the initial setup of the receiver using an iTouch and iPeng or Squidgy? Or will I have to use the method listed in the following link?

Re: [slim] Controller or alternative (iPod touch/iPhone)?

2008-12-05 Thread pippin
morsejeff;366726 Wrote: Another questionIf I purchase the Duet (w/out the controller) will I be able to do the initial setup of the receiver using an iTouch and iPeng or Squidgy? Or will I have to use the method listed in the following link?

Re: [slim] Controller or alternative (iPod touch/iPhone)?

2008-12-04 Thread morsejeff
Question...I understand that you can use the iTouch/iPhone as a controller for Squeezecenter, but can you use it as player. In other words, can I use iPeng or Squidgy to stream music and listen through the headphone jack of the iTouch/iPhone? The reason I'm asking is I understand as of

Re: [slim] Controller or alternative (iPod touch/iPhone)?

2008-12-04 Thread garym
Currently, the IPeng iphone app does NOT allow playing through the iphone headphone jack. Not sure if this is planned. I can say that as a controller, I've very much enjoyed using the IPeng app on my iphone. -- garym

Re: [slim] Controller or alternative (iPod touch/iPhone)?

2008-12-04 Thread exile
my 2 cents- there's one thing that makes it a no-brainer for me: Does the controller have other applications on it? Can you surf the web, check e-mail, play videos etc.? the multi-use functioning of the itouch made it an easy decision for me over the controller. -- exile

Re: [slim] Controller or alternative (iPod touch/iPhone)?

2008-12-04 Thread pippin
garym;366345 Wrote: Currently, the IPeng iphone app does NOT allow playing through the iphone headphone jack. Not sure if this is planned. I can say that as a controller, I've very much enjoyed using the IPeng app on my iphone. Playback is definitely on the roadmap, but I cannot give a firm

Re: [slim] Controller or alternative (iPod touch/iPhone)?

2008-12-04 Thread morsejeff
pippin;366432 Wrote: Playback is definitely on the roadmap, but I cannot give a firm date for it. Good to hear! -- morsejeff morsejeff's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=18805 View this thread:

Re: [slim] Controller or alternative (iPod touch/iPhone)?

2008-12-04 Thread morsejeff
exile;366408 Wrote: my 2 cents- there's one thing that makes it a no-brainer for me: Does the controller have other applications on it? Can you surf the web, check e-mail, play videos etc.? the multi-use functioning of the itouch made it an easy decision for me over the controller. Good

Re: [slim] Controller or alternative (iPod touch/iPhone)?

2008-11-30 Thread jazztime
Thanks again for alle the comments. Yesterday I bought an iPod touch 8GB and the iPeng native application. And I must say - this is exactly what I have been looking for: - the responsiveness is superb, very fast and it seems also very stable (not yet loosing network connection or crashing) -

Re: [slim] Controller or alternative (iPod touch/iPhone)?

2008-11-27 Thread amcluesent
OK, you use custom browse. Yep. But as to the speed part, the Controller is in my experience far more consistent in speed and smoothness of presenting menus etc. Both Squidgy and iPeng seem to 'halt' processing of touches of the UI for intervals as if blocked awaiting server interaction. --

Re: [slim] Controller or alternative (iPod touch/iPhone)?

2008-11-27 Thread pippin
amcluesent;364314 Wrote: OK, you use custom browse. Yep. But as to the speed part, the Controller is in my experience far more consistent in speed and smoothness of presenting menus etc. Both Squidgy and iPeng seem to 'halt' processing of touches of the UI for intervals as if blocked

Re: [slim] Controller or alternative (iPod touch/iPhone)?

2008-11-26 Thread amcluesent
The Controller is superior to iPeng and Squidgy IMHO. Usability, speed and customisation need for classical collections are superior at the moment. Not to say that the apps can't/won't improve. -- amcluesent amcluesent's

Re: [slim] Controller or alternative (iPod touch/iPhone)?

2008-11-26 Thread pippin
amcluesent;363853 Wrote: The Controller is superior to iPeng and Squidgy IMHO. Usability, speed and customisation need for classical collections are superior at the moment. Not to say that the apps can't/won't improve. Can you elaborate? Especially on usability and speed? -- pippin ---

Re: [slim] Controller or alternative (iPod touch/iPhone)?

2008-11-26 Thread m1abrams
pippin;363863 Wrote: Can you elaborate? Especially on usability and speed? First NOTE: I do not have a controller so can not compare usability or speed. However I have iPeng and can not see how the controller could be any faster, even if it was not sure that would really matter because iPeng

Re: [slim] Controller or alternative (iPod touch/iPhone)?

2008-11-26 Thread slimkid
pippin;363576 Wrote: Ah, sorry, misunderstood that. I might have misunderstood that the OP was referring to the general use of iTouch, rather than to the use of native applications on it. In which case sorry for the confusion. k -- slimkid http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7iAj2aPdQnk

Re: [slim] Controller or alternative (iPod touch/iPhone)?

2008-11-26 Thread ch1525
amcluesent;363853 Wrote: Usability, speed and customisation need for classical collections are superior at the moment. Not to say that the apps can't/won't improve. I think he might be thinking along the same lines as I am in what I posted on the other thread about Classical collections.

Re: [slim] Controller or alternative (iPod touch/iPhone)?

2008-11-26 Thread amcluesent
These are always the most difficult types of things to handle. Yep, on the Controller I have CustomBrowse menus for - Artists, filtered to by genres to exclude my 'classical' genres Albums, filtered as above Composers, then albums listed by album name Genres, then albums listed by album name

Re: [slim] Controller or alternative (iPod touch/iPhone)?

2008-11-26 Thread pippin
amcluesent;364120 Wrote: These are always the most difficult types of things to handle. Yep, on the Controller I have CustomBrowse menus for - Artists, filtered to by genres to exclude my 'classical' genres Albums, filtered as above Composers, then albums listed by album name Genres,

Re: [slim] Controller or alternative (iPod touch/iPhone)?

2008-11-25 Thread socistep
I have been debating the usage of my controller v. iPhone recently. I have a Duet as the main system in the living room, I've recently purchased a boom which I plan to use in the Bedroom mainly (the boom is in the post) I've downloaded the Squidgy app and plan to purchase the other two apps to

Re: [slim] Controller or alternative (iPod touch/iPhone)?

2008-11-25 Thread slimkid
I'm pretty sure that player on the squeezenetwork can be web controlled, so iTouch should be able to do it. K -- slimkid http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7iAj2aPdQnk http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_wUP07DVq9E http://youtube.com/watch?v=nlrpe8Ig5m8 http://youtube.com/watch?v=dC9tGlwPln8

Re: [slim] Controller or alternative (iPod touch/iPhone)?

2008-11-25 Thread pippin
slimkid;363502 Wrote: I'm pretty sure that player on the squeezenetwork can be web controlled, so iTouch should be able to do it. K No, it can only be web controlled through SN. -- pippin --- see iPeng at penguinlovesmusic.com

Re: [slim] Controller or alternative (iPod touch/iPhone)?

2008-11-25 Thread slimkid
pippin;363506 Wrote: No, it can only be web controlled through SN. That's what I'm saying. One can control SN playback through iTouch. All it takes is to log on to one's account on SN using Safari. K -- slimkid http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7iAj2aPdQnk

Re: [slim] Controller or alternative (iPod touch/iPhone)?

2008-11-25 Thread pippin
slimkid;363558 Wrote: That's what I'm saying. One can control SN playback through iTouch. All it takes is to log on to one's account on SN using Safari. K Ah, sorry, misunderstood that. -- pippin --- see iPeng at penguinlovesmusic.com

Re: [slim] Controller or alternative (iPod touch/iPhone)?

2008-11-24 Thread vitoruch
jazztime;362695 Wrote: I'm planning to buy some remote solution for my one Transporter and two Squeezeboxes setup. But I'm uncertain if I should buy the Controller or a iPod touch (or Iphone) with some of the iPeng, iSqueeze/Squeemote, Squidgy software. I would definitely bet on an ipod

Re: [slim] Controller or alternative (iPod touch/iPhone)?

2008-11-24 Thread jazztime
Thank you for all the good comments, suggestions and recomendations! What is most imortant to me is: - Stability and responsiveness. Some reports that the controller often loose network. Is this an issue with iTouch? On the other hand some reports, that native iTouch solutions some times

Re: [slim] Controller or alternative (iPod touch/iPhone)?

2008-11-23 Thread mattybain
jazztime;362695 Wrote: I'm planning to buy some remote solution for my one Transporter and two Squeezeboxes setup. But I'm uncertain if I should buy the Controller or a iPod touch (or Iphone) with some of the iPeng, iSqueeze/Squeemote, Squidgy software. The Controller i 370$ and the iPod

Re: [slim] Controller or alternative (iPod touch/iPhone)?

2008-11-23 Thread Nonreality
mattybain;362699 Wrote: $370 for 1 controller, are you sure? that sounds very expensive, I didn't pay that much for my Duet here in the UK. I have 2 controllers and 1 iPhone and have been on the beta test for iSqueeze (Squeemote). To be honest I have been frustrated with the

Re: [slim] Controller or alternative (iPod touch/iPhone)?

2008-11-23 Thread amcluesent
Only Squidgy is publicly available; I doubt the beta-testers for the other apps will comment until released on the AppStore. As of now, I find the Controller with CustomeBrowse a much more viable proposition. -- amcluesent

[slim] Controller or alternative (iPod touch/iPhone)?

2008-11-23 Thread jazztime
I'm planning to buy some remote solution for my one Transporter and two Squeezeboxes setup. But I'm uncertain if I should buy the Controller or a iPod touch (or Iphone) with some of the iPeng, iSqueeze/Squeemote, Squidgy software. The Controller i 370$ and the iPod touch (8gb) is 270$ (I'm in

Re: [slim] Controller or alternative (iPod touch/iPhone)?

2008-11-23 Thread Dave Dewey
Quoting jazztime ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): I'm planning to buy some remote solution for my one Transporter and two Squeezeboxes setup. But I'm uncertain if I should buy the Controller or a iPod touch (or Iphone) with some of the iPeng, iSqueeze/Squeemote, Squidgy software. The Controller i 370$

Re: [slim] Controller or alternative (iPod touch/iPhone)?

2008-11-23 Thread DeVerm
ddewey;362766 Wrote: I spent a large chunk of time listening yesterday while working on some computer issues, with both my iPhone and Controller next to me. Every time, it was more convenient to pick up the Controller to make a quick change to what was playing - fast forward, check the song

Re: [slim] Controller or alternative (iPod touch/iPhone)?

2008-11-23 Thread pippin
You are right, it depends on what you want to do. The controller is better for quickly making simple changes (pause, skip) while the iPhone apps are better for browsing and selecting content and managing your playlist. At least iPeng is much, much better as soon as you need to control more than

Re: [slim] Controller or alternative (iPod touch/iPhone)?

2008-11-23 Thread JJZolx
pippin;362803 Wrote: The controller is better for quickly making simple changes (pause, skip) Why is that? Because of the dedicated buttons? Couldn't this be addressed in the iApplication by having a quickly accessible screen with a similar set of control buttons? And maybe an option to use

Re: [slim] Controller or alternative (iPod touch/iPhone)?

2008-11-23 Thread pippin
JJZolx;362818 Wrote: Why is that? Because of the dedicated buttons? Couldn't this be addressed in the iApplication by having a quickly accessible screen with a similar set of control buttons? And maybe an option to use this screen as a screensaver, so that when the iPhone/Touch is sitting

Re: [slim] Controller or alternative (iPod touch/iPhone)?

2008-11-23 Thread Steve Agnew
I'm finding the iPod Touchscreen perfect for browsing through albums artists. If you had a small music library then the scroll wheel on the SBC would be OK but it is unusable with a large collection - we went back to the standard remote with it's number/alpha keys just because of this. Having

Re: [slim] Controller or alternative (iPod touch/iPhone)?

2008-11-23 Thread Lesu
I took my iPod controller on holiday, watched a couple of films on the plane, listened to my song collection on the rented house's music centre, hooked onto a free WiFi connection at a local coffee bar and then listened to some more songs on the flight back. Got home and sat down, selected one of

Re: [slim] Controller or alternative (iPod touch/iPhone)?

2008-11-23 Thread DeVerm
Lesu;362876 Wrote: I took my iPod controller on holiday, watched a couple of films on the plane, listened to my song collection on the rented house's music centre, hooked onto a free WiFi connection at a local coffee bar and then listened to some more songs on the flight back. Got home and