Re: [slim] I officially declare my HATE for 7.4...

2009-10-23 Thread Bytec
I must say that my Duet just got better with SS v7.4! -- Bytec Bytec's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17676 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=69945

Re: [slim] I officially declare my HATE for 7.4...

2009-10-22 Thread HectorHughMunro
The 7.4.1 experience and current handset software for me has been really good. Faster, more stable, better BBC support, better organized. Really excellent and a world away from my initial Duet experiences. -- HectorHughMunro

Re: [slim] I officially declare my HATE for 7.4...

2009-10-21 Thread Nonreality
mlsstl;475637 Wrote: > get.amped wrote: > > That's quite a figure! You must have a very substantial music library. > I've got something over 43,000 songs and a full scan on a relatively > run-of-the-mill PC (with Linux OS) takes about 50 minutes. Mines been great also. I've got about 30k in tr

Re: [slim] I officially declare my HATE for 7.4...

2009-10-21 Thread mlsstl
get.amped wrote: > ...9 hours per full scan That's quite a figure! You must have a very substantial music library. I've got something over 43,000 songs and a full scan on a relatively run-of-the-mill PC (with Linux OS) takes about 50 minutes. -- mlsstl --

Re: [slim] I officially declare my HATE for 7.4...

2009-10-20 Thread qirex
honestly I think the biggest problem is that Logitech sent out an email announcing it the instant it was available. Having dealt with .0 releases before I assumed they'd done something different as far as testing and upgraded right away. Fortunately factory resetting my SBC fixed most of my proble

Re: [slim] I officially declare my HATE for 7.4...

2009-10-20 Thread maggior
gharris999;475074 Wrote: > Maybe by the 8.0 release they'll have changed the SN name to an > unpronounceable glyph. The time will be just about right for the > release of a '♂' app too. ...and it will be commonly referred to as the "software formerly know as SqueezeCenter". -- maggior Rich

Re: [slim] I officially declare my HATE for 7.4...

2009-10-20 Thread gharris999
get.amped;474966 Wrote: > ...the resource formerly called SqueezeNetwork...Maybe by the 8.0 release > they'll have changed the SN name to an unpronounceable glyph. The time will be just about right for the release of a '♂' app too. -- gharris999 --

Re: [slim] I officially declare my HATE for 7.4...

2009-10-20 Thread get . amped
Frankly, I'm cautious about *all* software upgrades at this stage in the game. I've got over 25 years of hands-on, professional IT experience and I tend to push my own gear way beyond the limit of reasonable duty cycle and resource utilization. And one reason that it continues to work for me is th

Re: [slim] I officially declare my HATE for 7.4...

2009-10-20 Thread TiredLegs
peterw;474720 Wrote: > IIRC, Mike Valera (web monkey for Logi/Slim Devices before the global > economic downturn trimmed the Logitech SMBU payroll) recommended > Meguiar's plastic polish products for touching up such stuff. As an aside, Meguiar's plastic polish is also excellent for buffing up li

Re: [slim] I officially declare my HATE for 7.4...

2009-10-20 Thread AndreE
Today morning I woke up and wanted listening music... just something calm And... all my receivers were in this funky greenish light. I’ve re-set one receiver and controller together, but... stopped doing for others. It was a sadness and frustration in my heart. You know how long it takes to get it

Re: [slim] I officially declare my HATE for 7.4...

2009-10-19 Thread pablolie
Thanks for the pointer. As a sports motorcycle rider myself I actually have the stuff around, so that is convenient. I will decide what to do. I also have enough SB3s around the house to reshuffle them if I feel like it for cosmetic reasons. -- pablolie ...pablo Server: Shuttle X27 - Ubuntu

Re: [slim] I officially declare my HATE for 7.4...

2009-10-19 Thread peterw
pablolie;474706 Wrote: > upgrade my main player (the one that has the scratches now) IIRC, Mike Valera (web monkey for Logi/Slim Devices before the global economic downturn trimmed the Logitech SMBU payroll) recommended Meguiar's plastic polish products for touching up such stuff. -- peterw

Re: [slim] I officially declare my HATE for 7.4...

2009-10-19 Thread pablolie
Let me be clear: I would not have bought all the products you see in my sig line unless I loved the concept and potential and on 99.99% of the time execution on the product. I remain a big fan of the concept. I have always irrationally loved playing music of my historically very reliable SB3s (I d

Re: [slim] I officially declare my HATE for 7.4...

2009-10-19 Thread radish
gfuchs;474065 Wrote: > If they want more beta testers, I would be happy to buy a Touch if they > would let me. > Greg > (waving a credit card in the air) This is about SC/SBS releases, anyone can beta test those for free :) -- radish 'HELP ME RAISE MONEY FOR CHILDREN'S CANCER RESEARCH!' (HTT

Re: [slim] I officially declare my HATE for 7.4...

2009-10-19 Thread maggior
I'm glad to see that you've calmed down. I was extermemly frustrated when I purchased the Duet a little over a year ago. I really felt let down, escpecially since I went out of my way to sing the product's praises! I got over it and didn't let it kill my enthusiasm for the product. I'm just mo

Re: [slim] I officially declare my HATE for 7.4...

2009-10-19 Thread pablolie
The problem with 7.4.0, it seems, is that it is still a beta release but delivered as a semi-mandatory "stable" upgrade. And that was a mistake. If it had been optional, and there had been a warning, I would have no right to overly complain. Since it was forced upon me given the fact I have hisot

Re: [slim] I officially declare my HATE for 7.4...

2009-10-19 Thread gharris999
I'm finding a very interesting correlation here. The odds that 7.4.x will be capable of playing any given track in my collection (ALL of which were playable under 7.3.x) seem to be inversely proportional to Logitech's PE ratio. -- gharris999

Re: [slim] I officially declare my HATE for 7.4...

2009-10-19 Thread Roger66
AndreE;474477 Wrote: > ... but Logitech is a bg company with very well established > processes and known and proved quality records!!! Really ? What about the mouseware 2007/2008, where logitech wasn't able for month (!) to deliver a mouseware not producing an error message EACH time w

Re: [slim] I officially declare my HATE for 7.4...

2009-10-19 Thread AndreE
erland;474437 Wrote: > The problem is that everyone doesn't want to participate in beta > testing, some just like to have a stable system and listen to their > music. Hi erland, is is a valid point. I would be glad to, but only when I have time Most of the time my family is using devices, sorry

Re: [slim] I officially declare my HATE for 7.4...

2009-10-19 Thread erland
Mnyb;474056 Wrote: > A larger group of beta testers are needed, sometimes i wonder if I'm > completely alone with my choice of OS and hardware (clarkconnect 4.2 on > mini itx via-epia ). > It is naturally so that bug's slips by when all user cases are not > covered by logitech and/or beta testers

Re: [slim] I officially declare my HATE for 7.4...

2009-10-19 Thread TiredLegs
bradcook;474369 Wrote: > So i guess my forced power removal reset the XILIX ?See here for how to reset > Xilinx: http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/Hardware_Reset_commands#Reset_Audio_Hardware_.28aka_Xilinx_Reset.29 -- TiredLegs -

Re: [slim] I officially declare my HATE for 7.4...

2009-10-19 Thread Phil Leigh
bradcook;474369 Wrote: > Strange - this is exactly teh same sort of behaviour I was having. > > I installed 7.4.0 and started having problems with the SBR in the > kitchen (the SB2 in the lounge is always rock solid). > > Blue light disconnecting... coming back white ... no sound - even > thoug

Re: [slim] I officially declare my HATE for 7.4...

2009-10-19 Thread bradcook
Strange - this is exactly teh same sort of behaviour I was having. I installed 7.4.0 and started having problems with the SBR in the kitchen (the SB2 in the lounge is always rock solid). Blue light disconnecting... coming back white ... no sound - even though the controller was showing the track

Re: [slim] I officially declare my HATE for 7.4...

2009-10-19 Thread AndreE
Pascal Hibon? you've brought valid point. It was the same for me. I've evaluated Squeeze Philosophy against Sonos and some others, coming to the market. It is exactly the Philosophy and the ideas and community behind were main selling points for me as well, but now it raises concern about the way

Re: [slim] I officially declare my HATE for 7.4...

2009-10-18 Thread Pascal Hibon
I guess that most of us know that this was initially a product line made by a company called Slimdevices. The idea behind the product was to provide great hardware and software that provides excellent audio quality in the emerging digital audio age. And they did that in a “community” kinda world.

Re: [slim] I officially declare my HATE for 7.4...

2009-10-18 Thread AndreE
I was reading all these posts with a smile... and grief first three emotional posts were exactly what I have experienced in my case. most probably I am one of those who recently stepped into the game, purchased quite a number of devices, just could configure them... and got 7.4.0 installed I sti

Re: [slim] I officially declare my HATE for 7.4...

2009-10-18 Thread Mnyb
ModelCitizen;474068 Wrote: > I'm very much looking forward to the positive effects of a third world > war. > > MC No more humans , reboot of evolution new cool animals to emerge in a couple of million years :) -- Mnyb No

Re: [slim] I officially declare my HATE for 7.4...

2009-10-18 Thread ModelCitizen
Pascal Hibon;474044 Wrote: > I believe there is something positive in everything. Anyway, I’m liking > 7.4.1 a lot. I'm very much looking forward to the positive effects of a third world war. MC -- ModelCitizen Think the third party Squeeze plugins and applets are important? Then 'vote for b

Re: [slim] I officially declare my HATE for 7.4...

2009-10-18 Thread gfuchs
If they want more beta testers, I would be happy to buy a Touch if they would let me. Greg (waving a credit card in the air) -- gfuchs Radio (wahoo!), SBR, SC 7.4 on WHS gfuchs's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/mem

Re: [slim] I officially declare my HATE for 7.4...

2009-10-18 Thread Mnyb
Pascal Hibon;474044 Wrote: > I have waited until yesterday to upgrade from 7.3.3 to 7.4.1 nightly > build. I must say that I’m very pleased with the result. It is obvious > that Logitech did a lot of work on this release. For sure there were > quite a lot of bugs, but that was to be expected from

Re: [slim] I officially declare my HATE for 7.4...

2009-10-18 Thread Pascal Hibon
I have waited until yesterday to upgrade from 7.3.3 to 7.4.1 nightly build. I must say that I’m very pleased with the result. It is obvious that Logitech did a lot of work on this release. For sure there were quite a lot of bugs, but that was to be expected from such a major change. There is one b

Re: [slim] I officially declare my HATE for 7.4...

2009-10-18 Thread peechus
just logged in to see if others are 7.4 overwhelmed with futility. i've called customer support so many times it's no longer the bums rush... they just hang up on me when they discover it's peechus again. the last time , i waited 10 minutes for a green techie then 4 or 5 'scuze me while i [fill

Re: [slim] I officially declare my HATE for 7.4...

2009-10-18 Thread sebp
JJZolx;473799 Wrote: > Same here. Many, many times. Has nothing to do with 7.4. Maybe a > glitch during the firmware update process on that player, which happens. I've also seen that several times at home since 6.5. Yes, it's both surprising and frustrating, but a power reset generally cures t

Re: [slim] I officially declare my HATE for 7.4...

2009-10-18 Thread MrSinatra
JJZolx;473800 Wrote: > I honestly don't know what I'd do if my SB world got shaken. Maybe > counseling is available. haha! that must be the secret next mysb.com logitech service, "squeezetherapy" squeezerehab? deprogram your squeezaddiction. when new software is released that fails for you:

Re: [slim] I officially declare my HATE for 7.4...

2009-10-18 Thread JJZolx
pablolie;473776 Wrote: > I should note I performed a Xilinx and factory reset for the SB3s when I > installed the "stable" 7.4 release... You mean you just did this as a matter of course, before you began to have problems? Why??? > My SB world got shaken badly today, that's all. I honestly do

Re: [slim] I officially declare my HATE for 7.4...

2009-10-18 Thread JJZolx
snarlydwarf;473774 Wrote: > Actually, I have seen that behavior many times going back to 6.3. Same here. Many, many times. Has nothing to do with 7.4. Maybe a glitch during the firmware update process on that player, which happens. I've always said that it seems more than a little odd the se

Re: [slim] I officially declare my HATE for 7.4...

2009-10-18 Thread Mnyb
Xilink reset had to be done sometimes, i think sometimes something goes wrong with the fw update and you have to reset and sometimes it's a random occurrence. Stay tuned to to experience the even rarer "distorted sound on full volume bug" . Murphys law clearly predicts failure in such situations

Re: [slim] I officially declare my HATE for 7.4...

2009-10-17 Thread pablolie
snarlydwarf;473774 Wrote: > Actually, I have seen that behavior many times going back to 6.3. > ... > Being effectively a random occurence makes it a very hard bug to fix > which is why it has been around for years. I had never observed it. But if that is the case, once the dust settles (and my

Re: [slim] I officially declare my HATE for 7.4...

2009-10-17 Thread snarlydwarf
pablolie;473772 Wrote: > I am sorry I had to vent. I had to. What I experienced was shockingly > frustrating. In many years, and with all the devices I have, I had never > ever seen an SB3 claim it was playing music when in fact the SBS didn't > even know it was present or active. Actually, I h

Re: [slim] I officially declare my HATE for 7.4...

2009-10-17 Thread pablolie
I am sorry I had to vent. I had to. What I experienced was shockingly frustrating. In many years, and with all the devices I have, I had never ever seen an SB3 claim ti was playing music when in fact the SBS didn't even know it was active. Anyone's troubleshooting activity is going to be around th

Re: [slim] I officially declare my HATE for 7.4...

2009-10-17 Thread audiomuze
pfarrell;473763 Wrote: > The Radio requires 7.4, but if you don't have one, I would recommend > waiting a bit for things to settle down.As a long time SB3 user I've learned > the hard way to stay away from upgrades until they've had a good few months in the field. When it comes to enjoying your

Re: [slim] I officially declare my HATE for 7.4...

2009-10-17 Thread Mark Miksis
Please maintain a proper amount of respect and decorum. If you are having problems and want to ask other users for help, that's what the forums are here for. Even if you just want to vent about something that doesn't seem to be working for you, that's fine. Personal attacks however will lead

Re: [slim] I officially declare my HATE for 7.4...

2009-10-17 Thread Pat Farrell
pablolie wrote: > Something is very broken in the guts of 7.4 for this to happen. I had a lot of problems with my Debian server during the upgrade from 7.3 to 7.4, but since I am a beta tester, I could deal with it. But even with that, I was a bit surprised at the transfer. I expect that for more

Re: [slim] I officially declare my HATE for 7.4...

2009-10-17 Thread pablolie
pski;473733 Wrote: > Thank you for your posting so many messages to yourself.. > > Over and out. Perhaps you will acquire a measure of technical ability. > > P You are a fool. I have been a customer for years and have configured more boxes than you ever have on both Windows and Linux. I can l

Re: [slim] I officially declare my HATE for 7.4...

2009-10-17 Thread pski
pablolie;473714 Wrote: > I had to power off the SB3 and power it back up. > > Utterly and totally unacceptable. > > I have spent a lot of money of SB products, and I am now going to plan > a migration strategy to another product. > > This is totally *^%$$! ridiculous. This is NOT the way to

Re: [slim] I officially declare my HATE for 7.4...

2009-10-17 Thread pablolie
And in case anyone thinks I am an irrational hater, I keep track of the fact that exactly 49 households I know got SB products based on my endorsement. And they may in turn have converted other people. So I am NOT the enemy. I just resent the fact for the first time EVER I was made to look like a

Re: [slim] I officially declare my HATE for 7.4...

2009-10-17 Thread pablolie
For the record, this was my only time ever being so pissed off I knocked the SB3 to the wall with no regard as to whether it would ever work again. When it started playing again after I just powered it down I was disgusted with the fact that until that point of time it had claimed to be active and

Re: [slim] I officially declare my HATE for 7.4...

2009-10-17 Thread pablolie
I had to power off the SB3 and power it back up. Utterly and totally unacceptable. I have spent a lot of money of SB products, and I am now going to plan a migration strategy to another product. This is totally *^%$$! ridiculous. This is NOT the way to my audio future, to have my main audio w

[slim] I officially declare my HATE for 7.4...

2009-10-17 Thread pablolie
...and it was a major embarrassment for the product. My main SB3 now disappeared. It is not playing music even though it claims it is. But is is not showing up on SBS or my mySB.com. It's in limbo. This is the worst SB showing ever. It never ever behaved this weirdly before. With a *cough* stabl