Hello, apologies for coming to this discussion late, but I've had a
similar problem - and a solution (at least for me).
I have an iMac and a very large music collection, held in iTunes
(multiple libraries) and many ALAC files. I run SBS on a ReadyNAS and
the transcoding involved in playing ALAC
spiffin;505958 Wrote:
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My workflow, for FLAC files, is: rip via Max, apply REPLAYGAIN via
metaflac (command line .. but it's easy), tag via Jaikoz (it's a bit
clunky but works well), import to iTunes via Fluke (select all files and
File Open With Fluke).
It imports quickly, and my
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I found an old copy of Whamb. Simple, clean, but no longer supported
and not awfully stable on my Intel Mac 10.6.
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Amarok -- should be familiar to linux users. There is a OSX 10.5 build,
but no luck on a 10.6 yet. This would probably end up as my pick of
choice to this point, having used to to a good deal of happiness on
Ubuntu and older Fedora builds.
Vox. Vox is billed as The Lghtweight Music App for
Apologies, kphinney, I didn't mean to annoy you. I must have failed to
explain myself. Let me try to put it more simply.
I didn't mean you hadn't had problems with iTunes. It's clear you have,
and I'm sorry you've suffered. I wish you joy in your quest to find
another program that does what you
No worries. I now understand. Perhaps I need more fiber in my diet.
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I don't know whether others have had the same experience, but I've also found
that the database that Max uses (MusicBrainz, I think it is) is simply dreadful
for classical and early music. I usually re-tag most of the music I rip to some
extent, but it's very rare indeed to find an album that
I must say I'm still in the 'nothing much wrong with iTunes' camp. It
works. It's reliable. The interface is intuitive and friendly. What's
not to like?
When kphinney goes on about Apple using iTunes as a money-grabbing
tool, I'm mystified. So ... ignore that. I use iTunes all the time, and
I
I'm sure I can quote my own 10+ posts in this thread and others where
I've said the same as you. I could also look up a half dozen others
where I not only defend the use of iTune but also point out great new
add-ons and helper programs that allow it to become more useful to the
audiophile
whitman;504165 Wrote:
...When kphinney goes on about Apple using iTunes as a money-grabbing
tool, I'm mystified. ...
Sorry, I'd like to address this directly. Or rather, I'll let Apple
address it. Please take a look at the new features list and you will
see that almost 50% of the new iTunes
That was my point - I'm not denying that's how Apple see it, but that's
no reason for us to get involved with that. It does not impinge on using
iTunes.
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whitman;504252 Wrote:
That was my point - I'm not denying that's how Apple see it, but that's
no reason for us to get involved with that. It does not impinge on using
iTunes.
If you don't want to be involved you don't have to post or read the
posts. iTunes does not work for me any longer by
Disn't go all the way through the list, but I gues i've been lucky, I
haven't had any problems running SBS on a mac.
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Peter Stockwell;503846 Wrote:
Disn't go all the way through the list, but I gues i've been lucky, I
haven't had any problems running SBS on a mac.
It's not all bad; rarely does anyone write a post entitled FYI: I've
never had an issue and love [insert product name].
iTunes worked for me for
DaveWr;502058 Wrote:
I am doing the same thing - using XLD for ripping on the server. It is
a universal binary, works very well (supports accurate RIP ) and has
basic tag editing. The creator keeps it very up to date, responsive to
bugs etc.
You can automate XLD to launch with CD
Hi
Yes I paid the £15. Compared with iPeng poor value, but compared to my
Lightroom editor.
I had the problem of no decent tagger for large quantities, complete
with configurable bulk folder / naming handling.
I thought about running XP and MP3TAG, but just increasing complexity.
Dave
I love Lightroom 2, but that's way off-topic.
I've had some time to use Play (another creation by sbooth.org, the
creator of Max and Rip) and I think it shows promise.
However, it is not in the same class as Songbird, which has more and
different functionality. That's not to say it's better.
What the heck. Why don't we make a comprehensive list of all Mac music
programs out there including rippers, taggers, and players?
Max (encoder)
Rip (encoder, CD ripper)
Play (player)
Audion (old player, ripper)
Jaikoz (tagger)
VLC (player, playlists?)
iTunes (stock)
Cog (player)
xACT
Great idea - it would help people.
If you record or process music - Audacity.
Ripper - XLD
Measuring room acoustics / loudspeakers - Fuzzmeasure
I'll have a think tomorrow
Dave
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kphinney;501868 Wrote:
Okay so at the most primal what are my/our wants:
1) FLAC
2) Mac PPC compatible
3) Edit tags
4) Import (via CD or download'd file)
5) Add artwork (less necessary)
6) FLAC !!!
(It sounds a lot like iTunes minus FLAC support, but there are a host
of things I
ezkcdude;504016 Wrote:
What's wrong with Max? That's what I use.
Sorry I modified the post to include the features that others have
asked for:
Play music
Save and export playlists
Rip a CD
Neither ability is available with Max, but as mentioned the developer
(sbooth.org) has the additional
MP3Rage (PhD or bottle of wine required)
Hehe... I recently started using its bigger brother MediaRage. And indeed...
the UI is... ahmm... not very intuitive at best.
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kphinney;501834 Wrote:
I want a simple front end to import, add art work, and manage tags. Has
anyone ran across anything they like? I've used both Cog (feature
lacking) and Play (from the makers of Max) but am still open to
something new.
Appart from the FLAC issue, what is wrong with
DaveWr;502377 Wrote:
Playlist creation to me is as per KMRs post above, the ability to select
a set of songs, maybe related to subsets of artist, genre, album etc. or
maybe at random.
...
I may look at Songbird. Don't flame, but I have a Linn DS on my system
for the main HiFi
kphinney;501834 Wrote:
Oh - I really like Songbird, but the Mac being used as a server is PPC
not Intel so I can't use that. In the same vein, since that Mac is
basically only a server now I really don't need a feature rich front end
anymore. Just something to manage tags and import.
If
JJZolx;501986 Wrote:
If the computer in question is only used as a server, then why the need
for software to run on that computer? You must be using another laptop
or desktop.
True, I am using an Intel MacBook Pro to rip, convert, tag then
upload the finished product. But I also have an
kphinney;502055 Wrote:
True, I am using an Intel MacBook Pro to rip, convert, tag then upload
the finished product. But I also have an extensive library already on
the server from years gone by. These files require some manipulation
and I spend a lot of time VNCing to the server's screen
I am doing the same thing - using XLD for ripping on the server. It is
a universal binary, works very well (supports accurate RIP ) and has
basic tag editing. The creator keeps it very up to date, responsive to
bugs etc.
You can automate XLD to launch with CD insert, rip and then quit.
I
JJZolx;502057 Wrote:
Why can't that be done across the network? I've edited as many as
20,000 files using Mp3tag on my desktop PC, with the files residing on
my server
It's possible, but again less elegant than I'd like. Mp3tag is Windows
only and I've tried the demo version of Jaikoz
kphinney;502066 Wrote:
I find that Max works better than XLD and with a lot less typing, but
sometimes you end up with files like what I mention above.
I need to re-examine Max, although I don't understand your typing
comment - I just have the preferences set to auto tag, then rip to the
kphinney;502066 Wrote:
Why can't that be done across the network? I've edited as many as
20,000
files using Mp3tag on my desktop PC, with the files residing on my
server
It's possible, but again less elegant than I'd like.
Not as the automated ripping solution that you're
kphinney;502066 Wrote:
Looks like we are in the same boat. I find that Max works better than
XLD and with a lot less typing, but sometimes you end up with files like
what I mention above. It doesn't do compilation CDs very well.
It would be foolish not to double-check and correct the
The real issue with Squeeze stuff and large libraries seems to be the
whole playlist creation. Any good mac ideas?
Dave
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JJZolx;502070 Wrote:
Not as the automated ripping solution that you're talking about, but for
editing tags it's 100 times more elegant than VNCing into the server
itself to run software remotely. If you like Songbird, and it's
available for your Intel Mac, why don't you use it across the
DaveWr;502072 Wrote:
The real issue with Squeeze stuff and large libraries seems to be the
whole playlist creation. Any good mac ideas?
Dave
Dave, can you define Playlist Creation for me? I may have an idea, but
we may be on the wrong page. I'm thinking more along the lines of
Library
My problem with playlist creation is that I like to build relatively
small playlists (50-100 songs), based on nothing more than these are
the songs I want to listen to (in a random order) today. My music
library isn't enormous (2000 songs or so), so doing this on a
drag-n-drop interface is quite
kphinney;502077 Wrote:
Dave, can you define Playlist Creation for me? I may have an idea, but
we may be on the wrong page. I'm thinking more along the lines of
Library Management as my need and that playlist creation refers to a
subset of songs which may be unrelated other than you want
Chander;184528 Wrote:
Just wait until MAcOSX Leopard, in a month or 2, because it will
probably handle the FLAC format natively !
Hard to imagine, but it's been three years and two OSs since we guessed
in that post that Apple would include FLAC support.
They haven't.
I'm aware that you
Not sure if it can be made to run on Mac, but it runs on *nix and
windoze... http://prokyon3.sourceforge.net/
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audiomuze;501838 Wrote:
Not sure if it can be made to run on Mac, but it runs on *nix and
windoze... http://prokyon3.sourceforge.net/
Looks perfect, but no Mac support. I'm beginning to think that I need
to upgrade (either to an Intel Mac or back to Fedora).
You'd think with all the
kphinney;501842 Wrote:
You'd think with all the design/film/creative geek crowd on Macs there
would be a good music management app.
This has always puzzled me as well. Most people think of MACs as the
best for audio/video/media but there seem to be no _true_ contenders for
replacing the
I tried Songbird out a couple of weeks ago but could not figure out how
to export playlists to an M3U; that's a deal killer for me. Play from
sbooth.org has the same issue.
For ripping and tagging, I gave up on Mac apps and now run dbpoweramp
in a Windows VM. I tried Max from sbooth.org, but
garym;501849 Wrote:
This has always puzzled me as well. Most people think of MACs as the
best for audio/video/media but there seem to be no _true_ contenders for
replacing the following programs running natively on the MAC:
1. dbPowerAmp
2. EAC
3. foobar2000
4. mp3tag
True, as long as
kphinney;501854 Wrote:
True, as long as you don't care to use FLAC and don't mind iTunes. Most
are happy with ALAC and the functionality of iTunes. I'm not a fan of
it, but it does have pretty close to the same functions as the above
named programs. In fact, many years ago I had a G3 BW
Okay so at the most primal what are my/our wants:
1) FLAC
2) Mac PPC compatible
3) Edit tags
4) Import (via CD or download'd file)
5) Add artwork (less necessary)
6) FLAC !!!
(It sounds a lot like iTunes minus FLAC support, but there are a host
of things I don't want: a system resource hog, a
kphinney's list is good EXCEPT it left out: playlist creation tool!!!
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kmr;501914 Wrote:
kphinney's list is good EXCEPT it left out: playlist creation tool!!!
Try VLC (http://www.videolan.org/vlc/download-macosx.html) which comes
in Intel and PPC flavours and is quite handy for playlist making as well
as being a potential replacement for iTunes as a player and
kmr;501853 Wrote:
I tried Songbird out a couple of weeks ago but could not figure out how
to export playlists to an M3U; that's a deal killer for me.
Not sure about the Mac version of Songbird, but on the Windows version
(and I think the Linux version, though I have to confirm), it's simply:
aubuti;501936 Wrote:
Not sure about the Mac version of Songbird, but on the Windows version
(and I think the Linux version, though I have to confirm), it's simply:
File Export playlist(s) [select playlists to export]
THEN
click the Preferences button in the Export Playlist(s) dialog,
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