Re: [slim] Touch or Transporter?

2014-10-18 Thread Jeff_G
It is a risk buying something that is no longer in production and there is nobody who can repair it. But as my SB3 is still going strong, I'm taking the chance. I'm not entirely happy that the Transporter is going from California to Erlanger, KY, and then finally shipped to UK. When I sent my

Re: [slim] Touch or Transporter?

2014-10-18 Thread pablolie
Jeff_G wrote: It is a risk buying something that is no longer in production and there is nobody who can repair it. But as my SB3 is still going strong, I'm taking the chance. I'm not entirely happy that the Transporter is going from California to Erlanger, KY, and then finally shipped to

Re: [slim] Touch or Transporter?

2014-10-16 Thread pkfox
Jeff_G wrote: Yes, it's not cheap. But I don't want to be putting anything together and I failed to find anything that would meet my requirements in terms of ease of use (I use the android app, not the remote or LMS). It's cheaper than it was when it came out (in the UK) while the Touch is

Re: [slim] Touch or Transporter?

2014-10-16 Thread carrera
Hi, I would go for the touch! The Transporter is too expensive and not reliable! (Mine broke after some years) So enjoy your music with a touch and if you want more - go to Linn! Regards SBClassic, Touch, Receiver eingelagert - Duet, Radio, Boom in Verwendung ansonsten iPeng, SqueezePad

Re: [slim] Touch or Transporter?

2014-10-16 Thread Jeff_G
I went for the Transporter. I hope it will last a while. Just like anything, it could last few days, it could last a decade or more. I've had the SB3 since 2007 I guess, it's SlimDevices one and I've had no problems at all. Now waiting for the seller to ship it. Paid on Tuesday, it's Thursday

Re: [slim] Touch or Transporter?

2014-10-16 Thread pablolie
Jeff_G wrote: I went for the Transporter. I hope it will last a while. Just like anything, it could last few days, it could last a decade or more. I've had the SB3 since 2007 I guess, it's SlimDevices one and I've had no problems at all. Now waiting for the seller to ship it. Paid on

Re: [slim] Touch or Transporter?

2014-10-16 Thread garym
carrera wrote: Hi, I would go for the touch! The Transporter is too expensive and not reliable! (Mine broke after some years) So enjoy your music with a touch and if you want more - go to Linn! Regards Not that products can't go bad of course, but I've never had a single issue

Re: [slim] Touch or Transporter?

2014-10-16 Thread Mnyb
garym wrote: Not that products can't go bad of course, but I've never had a single issue with my Transporter and it is in daily use, day in, month in, and year in, probably 8 hours per day. I also don't recall seeing any posts from transporter owners on hardware/repair problems. That would

Re: [slim] Touch or Transporter?

2014-10-16 Thread garym
Mnyb wrote: That would probably be carrera's own post of his repair attempts . If I remember correctly slimdevices when they existed could probably offer you a repair even on out of warranty products . Logitech on the other hand does not do that they treated transporter as just another

Re: [slim] Touch or Transporter?

2014-10-15 Thread epoch1970
I had an idea of getting a Transporter. Besides the fact I am fanatic about the design of the cheaper SB3, the one thing that really stopped me is the prospect of not being able to get it repaired if it breaks. I do have spare SB3s, I couldn't afford buying spare Transporters ;) 4 SB 3 • iPeng

Re: [slim] Touch or Transporter?

2014-10-14 Thread Jeff_G
castalla wrote: 1200 usd !!! Get a joggler for 50 gbp and a decent dac (if necessary) Yes, it's not cheap. But I don't want to be putting anything together and I failed to find anything that would meet my requirements in terms of ease of use (I use the android app, not the remote or LMS).

Re: [slim] Touch or Transporter?

2014-10-14 Thread garym
when you say you use the android app and not LMS what do you mean. I'm guessing you use LMS to maintain your music library and feed the SB players. But you mean that you don't use the LMS webGUI to control anything. Rather, you use an android app to do all your controlling of LMS and your players

Re: [slim] Touch or Transporter?

2014-10-14 Thread Jeff_G
That's right, LMS is on the Synology DiskStation which is connected to my SB3 at the moment. I only use the LMS to scan the directory for new albums. Otherwise I use my phone except the volume control which I disabled.

Re: [slim] Touch or Transporter?

2014-10-13 Thread Jeff_G
I think I may go for the Transporter. It looks the business and I like the idea of the large display. Buying it from the US, I guess a travel plug US to UK will be needed. I don't need to worry about the 240V I guess? If I need to use the unit itself, the one without the knob, it's a touch

Re: [slim] Touch or Transporter?

2014-10-13 Thread garym
Jeff_G wrote: I think I may go for the Transporter. It looks the business and I like the idea of the large display. Buying it from the US, I guess a travel plug US to UK will be needed. I don't need to worry about the 240V I guess? If I need to use the unit itself, the one without the

Re: [slim] Touch or Transporter?

2014-10-13 Thread pablolie
Jeff_G wrote: I think I may go for the Transporter. It looks the business and I like the idea of the large display. Buying it from the US, I guess a travel plug US to UK will be needed. I don't need to worry about the 240V I guess? If I need to use the unit itself, the one without the

Re: [slim] Touch or Transporter?

2014-10-13 Thread garym
pablolie wrote: Most of the time you're likely to use the web interface or the LMS application, or the remote, so i wouldn't sweat the knob. The power supplies either require an adapter for the plug but they can be driven with 110 and 220 (make sure to check). some later power supplies

Re: [slim] Touch or Transporter?

2014-10-13 Thread Jeff_G
It should be no problem then. Just a standard lead that would plug into a monitor, pc etc. I've checked the description on eBay and it states AC 100-240. Although I guess the description is taken from the web somewhere. I'm not sure why it says the box contents 'power supply' This is the item:

Re: [slim] Touch or Transporter?

2014-10-13 Thread garym
Jeff_G wrote: It should be no problem then. Just a standard lead that would plug into a monitor, pc etc. I've checked the description on eBay and it states AC 100-240. Although I guess the description is taken from the web somewhere. I'm not sure why it says the box contents 'power supply'

Re: [slim] Touch or Transporter?

2014-10-13 Thread castalla
garym wrote: correct re cable. no clue about description. probably just a copy/paste mistake (even on Logitech's part). 1200 usd !!! Get a joggler for 50 gbp and a decent dac (if necessary) Touch - Muse M50 EX TPA3123 T-Amp Mini - Acoustics Q10 speakers Logitech Radio Logitech UE Smart

Re: [slim] Touch or Transporter?

2014-10-13 Thread dafiend
castalla wrote: 1200 usd !!! Actually considerably more. The one he's contemplating is $1179.99 + $88.88 shipping to the UK + perhaps a few percent of import duty (not sure about UK regulation) + 20% import VAT which is applied to the sum of the previous three items. So the total will be at

Re: [slim] Touch or Transporter?

2014-10-12 Thread callesoroe
Jeff_G wrote: As I've not found a good network player to replace my SB3, I've decided to go for the Touch or possibly Transporter. I am not into building stuff, so it's between these two. Does anybody own both? I'd like to know whether there would be an advantage paying extra for the

Re: [slim] Touch or Transporter?

2014-10-12 Thread dafiend
callesoroe wrote: If you have a very good setup, you will need a DAC to the touch. You do not with Transporter, as it has a very very fine sounding DAC. Can you present any evidence to support this claim? --- German computer magazine measured the Touch's audio output some time ago (2012,

Re: [slim] Touch or Transporter?

2014-10-12 Thread Jeff_G
callesoroe wrote: If you have a very good setup, you will need a DAC to the touch. You do not with Transporter, as it has a very very fine sounding DAC. And it really look muchs much better. It's a decent set up. Bi-amped Roksan Kandy K2. I've tried tried Arcam and Audiolab DACs with my

Re: [slim] Touch or Transporter?

2014-10-12 Thread garym
Jeff_G wrote: It's a decent set up. Bi-amped Roksan Kandy K2. I've tried tried Arcam and Audiolab DACs with my current SB3 and could not hear any difference at all, not one bit. Hence I am a bit sceptical since and I doubt I would notice any difference between the Transporter and the Touch.

Re: [slim] Touch or Transporter?

2014-10-12 Thread Mnyb
Lets introduce the blasphemous idea of going with the specs :) Transporter has very good data better than Touch (but Touch is not bad either ). Even if a component can't be singled out in a listening test it can still add noise and distortion to the whole . Said player/dac will be connected to

Re: [slim] Touch or Transporter?

2014-10-12 Thread pablolie
garym wrote: I've not been able to detect a difference between my TOUCH vs TOUCH Benchmark DAC I (connected via S/PDIF coax). It was only a single blind test, but my indentification of what I was listening to turned out to be random. And I have a decent setup. I have a Touch feeding into

Re: [slim] Touch or Transporter?

2014-10-12 Thread Jeff_G
pablolie wrote: With the Touch alone I'd need some other way of consolidation sources into the power amp. Plus once -albeit many years ago- one of my SB3 during a storm suddenly blasted random noise at 100% volume into active speakers. Thank heavens I had them on 1/3 power, but it was still

Re: [slim] Touch or Transporter?

2014-10-12 Thread Mnyb
Yes there is a re bug in all the ipk3 cpu based squeezeboxes SB2 to Transporter they can emit horrible noise at 100% volume a xlink reset usually fix that . it's very rare it will go years between events . I had it once on an SB3 just once . So some kind of attenuation is a good thing even when

[slim] Touch or Transporter?

2014-10-11 Thread Jeff_G
As I've not found a good network player to replace my SB3, I've decided to go for the Touch or possibly Transporter. I am not into building stuff, so it's between these two. Does anybody own both? I'd like to know whether there would be an advantage paying extra for the Transporter. I like the

Re: [slim] Touch or Transporter?

2014-10-11 Thread garym
Jeff_G wrote: As I've not found a good network player to replace my SB3, I've decided to go for the Touch or possibly Transporter. I am not into building stuff, so it's between these two. Does anybody own both? I'd like to know whether there would be an advantage paying extra for the

Re: [slim] Touch or Transporter?

2014-10-11 Thread Julf
garym wrote: I like the balanced analog outputs of the Transporter. Balanced outputs are nice, but nowhere as important as balanced inputs. You get most of the benefits of a balanced connection with an unbalanced output driving a balanced (differential) input, by using a converter cable that

Re: [slim] Touch or Transporter?

2014-10-11 Thread garym
Julf wrote: Balanced outputs are nice, but nowhere as important as balanced inputs. You get most of the benefits of a balanced connection with an unbalanced output driving a balanced (differential) input, by using a converter cable that is balanced, but with a RCA at the other end.

Re: [slim] Touch or Transporter?

2014-10-11 Thread Julf
garym wrote: I have balanced out (from transporter or Benchmark DAC) to balanced inputs to Preamp (and then balanced outputs from preamp to balanced input to Amp) That is of course the ideal solution. It is a pity that audiophiles tend to frown at the pro approach of using balanced