Re: [slim] bye squeeze, hello ipod

2008-07-31 Thread mortslim
Steven Moore;323838 Wrote: is it possible to use an external hard drive or a computers hard drive to store and play music on the Apple Tv? There are two ways an AppleTV plays music: 1. From its internal hard drive. 2. Streaming from a computer on the LAN via wifi or ethernet Although it

Re: [slim] bye squeeze, hello ipod

2008-07-31 Thread Nonreality
mortslim;324695 Wrote: There are two ways an AppleTV plays music: 1. From its internal hard drive. 2. Streaming from a computer on the LAN via wifi or ethernet Although it has a USB port, I don't believe that can be used at present for an external drive.Now don't take this wrong, but

Re: [slim] bye squeeze, hello ipod

2008-07-29 Thread Steven Moore
I own a sb 1 but sooner or later it will fail and I was think of going the Apple route. I see that the Apple Tv has a 160b hard drive. As my music is around 300gb in size, all Apple lossless, is it possible to use an external hard drive or a computers hard drive to store and play music on the

Re: [slim] bye squeeze, hello ipod

2008-07-25 Thread mortslim
I agree that the new iPhone/iPod Touch remote app adds value to the AppleTV experience. I am sure the mentioned wishlist of additional features are just a question of future updates to the app. -- mortslim mortslim's

Re: [slim] bye squeeze, hello ipod

2008-07-23 Thread jharo
mortslim;320136 Wrote: It is easy to control the AppleTV with the included remote. Now that my iPod Touch (or iPhone) includes the new remote application, it is even better. Don't need the TV on or even connected to choose what music to listen to. Mortslim, did you notice that

Re: [slim] bye squeeze, hello ipod

2008-07-23 Thread jharo
Ok, I am long time SB owner/lover and the new remote and my existing AppleTV will NOT be replacing my SB... yet. I have a friend who i have been trying to get to retire his Audiotron (my last true love) and upgrade to SB. But now, he is very intersted in iphone airport express solution. The

Re: [slim] bye squeeze, hello ipod

2008-07-15 Thread autopilot
Can I just ask, with the iTunes remote app UI, what does the abc...xyz running down the right hand side of the screen do? I assume pressing f will quickly take you to f in the list? If so, i have not see that utilised before and its a very neat and smart, yet so simple, way to handle long

Re: [slim] bye squeeze, hello ipod

2008-07-15 Thread pippin
autopilot;320034 Wrote: Can I just ask, with the iTunes remote app UI, what does the abc...xyz running down the right hand side of the screen do? I assume pressing f will quickly take you to f in the list? If so, i have not see that utilised before (although i guess its used on the

Re: [slim] bye squeeze, hello ipod

2008-07-15 Thread jrichardson
tharrison;319243 Wrote: (And PS. Someone should write an iPhone application for SB that works just like the iTunes remote. That would be cool). http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=7889 VOTE NOW -- jrichardson James R. QA - breaking things so you don't have to

Re: [slim] bye squeeze, hello ipod

2008-07-15 Thread Michael Herger
http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=7889 VOTE NOW Not exactly what's been talked about here. That request is for an iPod/iPhone compatible SqueezeNetwork skin. -- Michael ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com

Re: [slim] bye squeeze, hello ipod

2008-07-15 Thread autopilot
pippin;320038 Wrote: But then most of the SC web skins have this, too (Default, Nokia, iPeng,...) The usability in browsing lists on the iPhone is hard to beat. Yeah very similar, but not exactly the same thing. Is there any way this could be implemented on a non-touch screen like the Duet

Re: [slim] bye squeeze, hello ipod

2008-07-15 Thread mortslim
And the beat goes on: LastFM has now been added as a service on the iPhone/iPod Touch. Logitech, the parent of Slim Devices, sells several models of ipod docking speaker systems. They sound great for your ipod. I use their Pure-Fi system in addition to my Squeezebox. So Logitech has hedged

Re: [slim] bye squeeze, hello ipod

2008-07-15 Thread HectorHughMunro
aflo;319904 Wrote: What there needs to be is a way to convert your squeezebox into an airport express or somehow get that functionality. Then people who purchased SBs can try both without buying an airport express. Is this possible? You may be better with an Apple TV. Better sonics than an

Re: [slim] bye squeeze, hello ipod

2008-07-15 Thread mortslim
The AppleTV has a digital audio out. It does shut down, at least I get the impression that the hard drive has gone to sleep because its initial startup after not being used for awhile is always a couple of seconds, whereas while in use the feedback from the remote is instantaneous. I understand

Re: [slim] bye squeeze, hello ipod

2008-07-14 Thread filzer
pablolie;319583 Wrote: ... The first is a great shortcut to a pleateu with great usability. The second is an invitation to a tortuous, never-ending journey to perfection :-D. The perfect world is in a seamless compromise in the middle, because we need *both* depending on context. Thanks,

Re: [slim] bye squeeze, hello ipod

2008-07-14 Thread filzer
pski;319618 Wrote: Back to the beginning of the thread: Nobody told this guy he could use wifi and the /handheld skins to control SC. Duh. Again the concept of a webserver controlling streams.. and listening to music on the ipod itself is only incredible if you like squashed MP3 sound.

Re: [slim] bye squeeze, hello ipod

2008-07-14 Thread pippin
filzer;319693 Wrote: I used iPeng on the iPod, and the webinterface on my macbook. it is slow. main problem. it is slow, the serving iMac is old, the library huge. remote on the ipod touch is much much faster. But, after reading your comments, i might keep my squeezebox. The're still

Re: [slim] bye squeeze, hello ipod

2008-07-14 Thread filzer
pippin;319700 Wrote: Have you tried the new one (0.5.1) with FW 2.0? It's considerably faster now, although admittedly still not as fast as iTunes Remote. thanks pippin, i *will* give it a try. part of the slowlyness is fault of the slow server, i suppose, cause the normal webinterface is

Re: [slim] bye squeeze, hello ipod

2008-07-14 Thread pippin
filzer;319708 Wrote: thanks pippin, i *will* give it a try. part of the slowlyness is fault of the slow server, i suppose, cause the normal webinterface is slow, too. Yes, but iPeng is MUCH faster than the normal webinterface if compared on the same machine. And Apple did a good job in

Re: [slim] bye squeeze, hello ipod

2008-07-14 Thread dem
I've created '*a photo gallery*' (http://www.smugmug.com/gallery/5421906_3gXVj) comparing a few similar screens of the Apple Remote application controlling iTunes and the SB Controller. -- dem Dave dem's Profile:

Re: [slim] bye squeeze, hello ipod

2008-07-14 Thread pippin
dem;319740 Wrote: I've created '*a photo gallery*' (http://www.smugmug.com/gallery/5421906_3gXVj) comparing a few similar screens of the Apple Remote application controlling iTunes and the SB Controller. So what? I mean: it's nothing new about that, it's the same controls and menus the iPod

Re: [slim] bye squeeze, hello ipod

2008-07-14 Thread dem
pippin;319759 Wrote: So what? I mean: it's nothing new about that, it's the same controls and menus the iPod application has been using since iPhone is out with the omission of Cover Flow. I figured there were one or two people left who'd never seen one or both of these UIs. My bad. --

Re: [slim] bye squeeze, hello ipod

2008-07-14 Thread pippin
dem;319800 Wrote: I figured there were one or two people left who'd never seen one or both of these UIs. My bad. OK, those people will like it, since it's cool. But pictures don't tell the whole story, don't they ... http://penguinlovesmusic.de/?page_id=7 -- pippin --- see iPeng at

Re: [slim] bye squeeze, hello ipod

2008-07-14 Thread HectorHughMunro
dem;319800 Wrote: I figured there were one or two people left who'd never seen one or both of these UIs. My bad. Actually, I was interested. I've just had a go with the remote application on the Ipod. It's extremely slick and responsive but doesn't have Coverflow. The criticisms still

Re: [slim] bye squeeze, hello ipod

2008-07-14 Thread dem
pippin;319809 Wrote: http://penguinlovesmusic.de/?page_id=7 Very pretty! -- dem Dave dem's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2504 View this thread:

Re: [slim] bye squeeze, hello ipod

2008-07-14 Thread aflo
What there needs to be is a way to convert your squeezebox into an airport express or somehow get that functionality. Then people who purchased SBs can try both without buying an airport express. Is this possible? -- aflo

Re: [slim] bye squeeze, hello ipod

2008-07-14 Thread ianr
aflo;319904 Wrote: What there needs to be is a way to convert your squeezebox into an airport express or somehow get that functionality. Then people who purchased SBs can try both without buying an airport express. Is this possible? Frankly, I'd rather find a way to turn my airport express

Re: [slim] bye squeeze, hello ipod

2008-07-14 Thread aflo
ianr;319908 Wrote: Frankly, I'd rather find a way to turn my airport express into a duet equivalent! We all have different setups and i respect that. My setup consists of using itunes for my tagging and storage and using slimserver to host it to my SB. the problem with this is since i tag

Re: [slim] bye squeeze, hello ipod

2008-07-13 Thread HectorHughMunro
Probably an Ipod in a dock is actually all that most normal users need. I'm currently using completely separate music databases for Itunes and Squeezebox Slightly scruffy 320k files and disorganized ID3 tags for the Itunes data and FLAC with perfectly organized id3 tags for the Squeezebox Duet.

Re: [slim] bye squeeze, hello ipod

2008-07-13 Thread pablolie
iTunes? It used to be a decent option for choice when it came to commercial music. But I will take Amazon MP3s over iTunes any day now. And I *hate* bossy, proprietary devices and software. I have never liked the iPod concept. I like portable devices to be dumb memory sticks that allow me to

Re: [slim] bye squeeze, hello ipod

2008-07-13 Thread autopilot
I'm glad Apple have done this, this a great option for existing Touch owners and its good to see more competition in the market. And it will suit some people more than the Squeezebox system. But it's not a replacement, it will appeal to a different niche in the market. The Squeezebox is a much

Re: [slim] bye squeeze, hello ipod

2008-07-13 Thread filzer
just to be clear, the iPod in my setting is used as a remote, not as a player. i know salling clicker, but ist not as fast and as easy as remote on the ipod touch. one thing is absolutly right: how will wife and kids play music when i take my ipod to work... i think i have to buy a iphone

Re: [slim] bye squeeze, hello ipod

2008-07-13 Thread Random Access
Yeah it's clear to me that you use the Touch as a remote and not a player. Sometimes I use my HTC Touch as a remote to control the Mac or the PC with Salling Clicker and sometimes I use it to stream audio from my Mac or PC to the phone and listen to it with headphones. I can't stream flac though.

Re: [slim] bye squeeze, hello ipod

2008-07-13 Thread morberg
Random Access;319321 Wrote: Squeezebox allows you to stream music without interacting with the computer. It's a totally different concept than remote controlling your computer to playback audio onto a remote audio device. Both methods have their uses and purposes. When playing your own local

Re: [slim] bye squeeze, hello ipod

2008-07-13 Thread erland
tharrison;319243 Wrote: (And PS. Someone should write an iPhone application for SB that works just like the iTunes remote. That would be cool). Ever heard of iPeng ? (www.penguinlovesmusic.com) Or the SqueezeBox Controller ? (http://www.slimdevices.com/pi_controller.html) -- erland

Re: [slim] bye squeeze, hello ipod

2008-07-13 Thread Random Access
morberg;319456 Wrote: When playing your own local music library the iTunes + AirTunes + Apple Remote (on iPod Touch or iPhone) is very similar to the SqueezeCenter + Squeezebox Duet Receiver + Controller setup. What are the main differences in your opinion? For those of you with a little

Re: [slim] bye squeeze, hello ipod

2008-07-13 Thread MuckleEck
filzer;319275 Wrote: regarding multiroom: you can select several airport stations to stream to. or all together. you cannot stream different music to different stations. That would be the biggest issue that I have with the system, to me one of the beauties of the SC/SB system is that I,

Re: [slim] bye squeeze, hello ipod

2008-07-13 Thread Nonreality
MuckleEck;319501 Wrote: That would be the biggest issue that I have with the system, to me one of the beauties of the SC/SB system is that I, my sons, my wife and her children can all listen to different music in different rooms at the same time. Another thing with the iphone remote system

Re: [slim] bye squeeze, hello ipod

2008-07-13 Thread mortslim
I tried the new Remote application on my iPod Touch to control my music on my AppleTV. Very cool. At first I didn't get it. I said, hey, my AppleTV already has a remote and I can scroll through the songs on my television. But the Remote application on the Touch does add a new dimension of

Re: [slim] bye squeeze, hello ipod

2008-07-13 Thread mortslim
Just to clarify, the appletv is a combo of an ipod plus airport plus a lot more. -- mortslim mortslim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11039 View this thread:

Re: [slim] bye squeeze, hello ipod

2008-07-13 Thread MuckleEck
mortslim;319546 Wrote: We've come a long way since top 40 AM radio and vinyl records. Keep it moving forward !!! Top 40 maybevinyl..as far as music quality is concerned...debatable! -- MuckleEck Alasdair SB3 - Linn Majik - Acoustic Energy Extreme 5 (garden) | SB3 - Cambridge Audio

Re: [slim] bye squeeze, hello ipod

2008-07-13 Thread Peter
tharrison wrote: So rather than making remarks about people who use iTunes or are thrilled with the idea of the Remote application for the iPhone, perhaps the community could recognize that we're not all audiophiles, and sometimes it's just nice to listen to music without pain and suffering!

Re: [slim] bye squeeze, hello ipod

2008-07-13 Thread Peter
filzer wrote: just to be clear, the iPod in my setting is used as a remote, not as a player. i know salling clicker, but ist not as fast and as easy as remote on the ipod touch. one thing is absolutly right: how will wife and kids play music when i take my ipod to work... i think i have to

Re: [slim] bye squeeze, hello ipod

2008-07-13 Thread mortslim
Just trying to make a comparison of prices of the Slim Devices Duet to the AppeTV, iPod Touch setups: Slim Devices Duet: $400. AppleTV: $230. (no tv required to play music) iPod Touch: $300. (or iPhone for $200., plus ATT contract) Total Apple: $530. So actually the Duet is more reasonably

Re: [slim] bye squeeze, hello ipod

2008-07-13 Thread pablolie
In my humble opinion, we are witnessing 2 different approaches: The Apple system is driven by the usual brilliance in usability - intuitive, pretty interfaces and as much of a self-configuringcorrecting environment as can be implemented with state of art stuff. The Slim-Logitech approach bows

Re: [slim] bye squeeze, hello ipod

2008-07-13 Thread Anne
I might say something stupid here, but then enlighten med if there is something I missed. Unfortunately I am not into all the plugins, gadgets, shortcuts, whatever I really like the SB3, and ITunes. But, I am a little put off by the SB3 original remote, and the small screen of SB3. I love the

Re: [slim] bye squeeze, hello ipod

2008-07-13 Thread pippin
erland;319457 Wrote: Ever heard of iPeng ? (www.penguinlovesmusic.com) Or the SqueezeBox Controller ? (http://www.slimdevices.com/pi_controller.html) And now with the iPhone 2.0 version: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=49821 Sorry, two days late, but I had to work my way

Re: [slim] bye squeeze, hello ipod

2008-07-13 Thread dem
mortslim;319578 Wrote: Slim Devices Duet: $400. AppleTV: $230. (no tv required to play music) iPod Touch: $300. (or iPhone for $200., plus ATT contract) Total Apple: $530. No need to buy an AppleTV just for music. Use an Airport Express for $99, a more fair comparison. So $400 for

Re: [slim] bye squeeze, hello ipod

2008-07-13 Thread dem
pippin;319591 Wrote: I like the iTunes remote app, but for iTunes I have to keep my computer (whichever one) running ... The Remote application will wake up your computer if it has gone to sleep (if your computer's not using a wireless connection). -- dem Dave

Re: [slim] bye squeeze, hello ipod

2008-07-13 Thread boslim
I relocated recently, temporarily separating myself from my vinyl and CD collection while setting up a new business. My Squeezeboxes and Transporter kept me sane by providing an unending stream of music, news, new music and even background sounds, all with superb sound quality. I let my Pandora

Re: [slim] bye squeeze, hello ipod

2008-07-13 Thread pippin
dem;319597 Wrote: The Remote application will wake up your computer if it has gone to sleep (if your computer's not using a wireless connection). No it will not. My PC consumes so much power I usually disconnect it from power when off. My MacBook Air comes with me and will not have a wired

Re: [slim] bye squeeze, hello ipod

2008-07-13 Thread pski
filzer;319200 Wrote: yesterday i installed firmware 2 on my ipod touch, and next thing was to install remote, an application from apple to remote control my itunes. and today i will put my squeezebox on ebay. i am really sorry to say that, because i love my squeezebox and i liked very

Re: [slim] bye squeeze, hello ipod

2008-07-13 Thread ModelCitizen
boslim;319607 Wrote: I just gave a trio of Squeezeboxes to a great friend Can I be your friend please? MC -- ModelCitizen On average people have fewer than two feet. http://www.last.fm/user/ModelCitizen

[slim] bye squeeze, hello ipod

2008-07-12 Thread filzer
yesterday i installed firmware 2 on my ipod touch, and next thing was to install remote, an application from apple to remote control my itunes. and today i will put my squeezebox on ebay. i am really sorry to say that, because i love my squeezebox and i liked very much what i could do with it.

Re: [slim] bye squeeze, hello ipod

2008-07-12 Thread Phil Leigh
and the point of this post was what exactly? -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal...SB3+Stontronics PSU - Altmann JISCO/UPCI - TACT RCS 2.2X with Good Vibrations S/W - MF X-DAC V3/X-PSU/X-10 buffer (Audiocomm full

Re: [slim] bye squeeze, hello ipod

2008-07-12 Thread bonze
Phil Leigh;319201 Wrote: and the point of this post was what exactly?Showing off? ;) -- bonze TranquilPC T2-WHS-A3 - SqueezeCenter Version: 7.2 - 21515 - Windows Server 2003 - EN - cp1252 3 x wireless SB3 + a Duet

Re: [slim] bye squeeze, hello ipod

2008-07-12 Thread HectorHughMunro
It certainly looks interesting but it won't do FLAC. Web radio is also better on Squeezebox. It's also a better audiophile solution. Although I have a Touch, I don't think I should pay for software updates as a point of principle. I've paid for one and resented it, I don't want to pay for

Re: [slim] bye squeeze, hello ipod

2008-07-12 Thread filzer
showing off: probably, yes, a little ;) in fact i am a little bit exited about the new possablilities of the touch. it is new, came out yesterday, and it is a true competition. i thought the board might be interested, beside my personal happiness :) -- filzer

Re: [slim] bye squeeze, hello ipod

2008-07-12 Thread amcluesent
I'm sure that there will be peeps for whom the iPhone/Mac/Airport solution will be ideal. IIRC the DAC/analogue drive of the Airport isn't quite in the same league as the Duet/SB3... -- amcluesent amcluesent's Profile:

Re: [slim] bye squeeze, hello ipod

2008-07-12 Thread upstatemike
How is the multi-room synchronization using the ipod solution? -- upstatemike upstatemike's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6409 View this thread:

Re: [slim] bye squeeze, hello ipod

2008-07-12 Thread tharrison
I have one of the old iPhones, and got the new software, including the remote app. I mostly use iTunes when I want to listen on my computer, and SB when I want to listen throughout the house. The iPhone remote is cool because it is not IR -- it uses the iPhone's wireless connection to talk to

Re: [slim] bye squeeze, hello ipod

2008-07-12 Thread Phil Leigh
tharrison;319243 Wrote: (And PS. Someone should write an iPhone application for SB that works just like the iTunes remote. That would be cool). I thought they already had... -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call

Re: [slim] bye squeeze, hello ipod

2008-07-12 Thread Nonreality
Itunes is great if you like a bloated Drm laden library / store that tells you what type of music files you can use. It kind of reminds me of America Online for people that want their hands held with digital music. Nothing wrong with that except that they are also a bit like the old company

Re: [slim] bye squeeze, hello ipod

2008-07-12 Thread Dave Dewey
Quoting filzer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): yesterday i installed firmware 2 on my ipod touch, and next thing was to install remote, an application from apple to remote control my itunes. and today i will put my squeezebox on ebay. i am really sorry to say that, because i love my squeezebox and

Re: [slim] bye squeeze, hello ipod

2008-07-12 Thread simbo
A few people I know haven't been bowled over by my Squeezebox setup (albeit in the minority ;-), saying they can achieve the same thing on their iPods and docking stations. Trying to explain the differences is futile; multi-room, FLAC and sound quality mean little to your common-or-garden iPod

Re: [slim] bye squeeze, hello ipod

2008-07-12 Thread filzer
Yes, you are right. Audiophiles do not like iTunes, and i wouldnt, either. I used the squeezebox mainly to get my massive mp3 library running, and - not always and sometimes frustrating - playing. But it sat on a iTunes setup already, swapping that to airtunes was no hassle. regarding multiroom:

Re: [slim] bye squeeze, hello ipod

2008-07-12 Thread Nonreality
simbo;319272 Wrote: A few people I know haven't been bowled over by my Squeezebox setup (albeit in the minority ;-), saying they can achieve the same thing on their iPods and docking stations. Trying to explain the differences is futile; multi-room, FLAC and sound quality mean little to your

Re: [slim] bye squeeze, hello ipod

2008-07-12 Thread Random Access
I'm sorry to hear that it has taken some of you so many years to realize that you can remote control iTunes with your phone. There is a program called Salling Clicker. With it you can control iTunes, Windows Media Player and more. It works with OS X and with Windows. It works on just about any